#1 Fun Fact : Both players streamed but Alireza didnt play in his usual streaming room. He choosed are room, where a big mirror was behind him and you could see him from behind.... Also every time someone in Alireza's chat called Niemann a cheater he immediatly called them out and said he will stop playing if this accusations during their match continues. #2 Funfact: Remember this quote from Nepo 3 years ago calling Niemann a Clownfish and Alireza compared to him a shark?
@@RR-qf9re there are tousand examples of people that did bad things and changed theier life for the better. Your comment is actually very stu..d when you think about
@@farzein4002 Danny? You mean Daniel Narodistky? He got adopted twice in blitz by Alireza just search it up. All time score is definetly in favour of Alireza.
In this match there was 3 players alireza hans and stockfish I'm only 2100 rated but even I can see the difference between style of play with hans In one game he's solid plays with no mistakes and in other games he's sacrifices and play a wild style of chess I hope they catch him agin
,this clown can only win online games but in one by one there is no match against anybody everyone knows that . Keep up your clown work hans you will be remembered as the cheater of chess for many people .
neh, Hans can't win even online, he's just one more super GM in speed chess. But Magnus and Naka are their own league. Hans is good but he's being overhyped and probably here was motivated af and Alireza was like, eeh lets see
It's pretty simple to see if someone is cheating, especially in Blitz games. Where it's pretty much impossible to cheat against a GM, where you have to make 10 moves in a few seconds. If you either; make like 30 perfect moves within a few last seconds, thats sus. Or when you make perfect moves for all the game, but in the last few seconds where you don't have time you make a lot of amateur blunders, thats sus.
Just like Kramnik said, Hans plays badly. Then "something" seems to get switched on and he crushes his opponent. The first few games seem legitimate anyway.
Good players? Not one of them accused Hans of cheating, not even Alireza. "No one in the world could do this to Alireza" bruh if you're not sarcastic you must be high on something @@greggle
@@greggleMagnus and Naka can do this to Alireza. Alireza is inconscient thats why he got beat but at his best can be a serious threat. Look how andreikin almost beat him, Alireza could comeback but alireza only won because of bullet. Now, is it Hans or is it Alireza? If it's Hans, then andreikin is one of the best too
There is hearing device inside the ear of that cheater nieman. They should check that in onboard tournament. I told you there is someone telling what to move specially if the game is lived !!!!
You think he can make like 20 moves in a few seconds, with someone in his ear that is watching and screaming, if he moves pawn to a3 move your queen. And then with all possibilities. Yeah....give me a video of someone in the world that has used it against a GM and making such quick moves... Quite legendary, either no on in the world has been caught...or Hans has never been caught in all the hundreds of games and no one even noticed some person close-by watching, and franticly with stress sending 20 messages in a few seconds seeing as you have to account for all the possible moves from your opponent. Where's the person in these hundreds of games, show me?
Firouzja, #5 in classical, 2800+ recently, the highest rated (OTB) blitz player 2896 in the world (Magnus is the second) is being outplayed mercilessly by Hans Neiman 2660 classical, 2614 blitz OTB. Go figure.
@@AKhan0372 Perhaps. It is possible; but usually it happens when a young player becomes really strong really fast. He was at 2700 and fell back again. Perhaps he will go back to 2700. Firouzja is usually in the top-3 in titlled Tuesday. and Hans beats him 13:10?? @2660 to play like 2800? Let's just say I am not convinced.
@@michaelrorer362 Magnus along with many other top players have lost around same amount of points. World number 2 is 2786 .. last year there were bunch of them close to 2800
@@michaelrorer362 You are not convinced of what, dude?I watched the match live. Both Aliraza and Hans were streaming. You are a moron if you think he was cheating while streaming (on camera and talking) and under intense scrutiny all the sites and people. Grow brain, dude
As long as Hans hasn't come clean about what he actually did (he has merely tried to deny it) he will not be seen as 100% clean even if he is. He could easily do this and start over from zero, but I doubt he will. It is like the athletes from the 80s that try to explain away their ban resulting from doping controls. What is good about this is that the question is hi-lighted, we only need better controls, the ones we have now are pathetically bad and if someone wants to cheat without detection this is no problem really, and the only way we can understand that cheating has been conducted is by post analysis of the game quality, which works on probabilities alone and are no proofs of cheating.
That’s a long diatribe without any substance. There was no cheating involved vs Magnus-nor the POSSIBILITY of cheating in that scenario. All they can make of is memes which honestly doesnt make sense.
Come clean about what? Perhaps you can come clean about the clear evidence of cheating, and no one in the world either knows about it, never talked about it and has never been caught using it...... The doping analogy also makes zero sense as well....did people know about doping back then? Discuss it? Why would a champion athlete use the doping to lets say win a high-school tournament, quickly stop using doping all together, go to the olympics for instance and win fairly. Then come clean to the world how he used doping at school once. That would be the correct analogy. Simply a tragic comment.
That's because he was not invited to big tournament and had to play in tournament where a lot of lower rated GMS are playing and where there is is greater risk of losing rating points.
If more top GMs player in every open tournament like Hans was they would also lose a lot of rating. You see that in the World Cup. These players only play in invite tournaments to keep their rating
other players win: we so good hans wins : cheater Alireza got destroyed after teasing hans "wasted too much time trying to outplay me" in early rounds. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hope Hans has good advisers now and listens to them. The games look legit, now he needs to build a reputation as someone who has learned from his mistakes. He’s clearly a strong player, and it would be a shame losing him to him being (his old) him.
@@eduardtsuranov712Haha best player? keep dreaming, not even close. Magnus and hikaru are way above Hans and even now that they both are not active. Magnus and Naka never lose a match/minimatch. Go see how Hans does. Not even close, Alireza is better than this
I brought some data, Hans has drawn tone of matches against players Magnus and Naka adopted. Lost to artoon (or something like that) a player Naka and magnus adopted. Lost to some 3100, jospem and nihal for example. Players Magnus and Naka demolished. Aaah, and nihal the day before yesterday, murdered Hans brutally. Hans is just decent
The said truth is: a strong player (2500+) can cheat very easily, because only need 1-2 help in hard moments and nobody knows when this tiny help happened and how..
I still don't understand the whole cheating discussion, the tragedy of sad people. So they're proposing he used an undetectable way to win with technology with I guess all the games he played against GM's. Even blitz games.... However, no one in the world has seen this machinery, let alone being used by someone...in the world. With so many technology in the world and chess globally it happened to a chess prodigy from a young age that somehow got his hands on it. No one would expect that from all the other 99% of decent, not good, chess players in the world not one of them heard of this device? Used it to become better, it was an already random world champion GM that cheated 2 times when he was young online in a meaningless game.
If he is then he is doing it successfully. Very impressive... If someone breaks the rules but no one can prove it then maybe people ought to rethink the rules. In any case, if all people are going on is their assumptions or bias and they think he is cheating.. that is very foolish.
#1 Fun Fact : Both players streamed but Alireza didnt play in his usual streaming room. He choosed are room, where a big mirror was behind him and you could see him from behind.... Also every time someone in Alireza's chat called Niemann a cheater he immediatly called them out and said he will stop playing if this accusations during their match continues.
#2 Funfact: Remember this quote from Nepo 3 years ago calling Niemann a Clownfish and Alireza compared to him a shark?
Where did he stream?
@@mohamedshakir1642 youtube cens my comment probably because of rivalry. They streamed on TW it ch.
@@mohamedshakir1642 t w i t c h
So we are bring up Hans when he was 17 years old?
13-10 against Firouzja? Unbelievable.
Does anyone trust it…once a cheater always a cheater
@@RR-qf9re True. 13-10 against the highest rated blitz player is at the very least not trustworthy.
go watch his stream, idiot@@RR-qf9re
go watch his stream, idiot@@SaeedAcronia
@@RR-qf9re there are tousand examples of people that did bad things and changed theier life for the better. Your comment is actually very stu..d when you think about
I only saw Hikaru beating Alireza with this score difference in Blitz. Chess speaks for itself.
Danny also has a plus score against AF.
It ended 11-12. That's a difference of 1
@@c2c001 What do you not understand about the score 13-10 for Hans?
@@farzein4002 Danny? You mean Daniel Narodistky? He got adopted twice in blitz by Alireza just search it up. All time score is definetly in favour of Alireza.
In this match there was 3 players alireza hans and stockfish
I'm only 2100 rated but even I can see the difference between style of play with hans
In one game he's solid plays with no mistakes and in other games he's sacrifices and play a wild style of chess
I hope they catch him agin
,this clown can only win online games but in one by one there is no match against anybody everyone knows that . Keep up your clown work hans you will be remembered as the cheater of chess for many people .
Nah you’re a salty basement dweller just move on pal and accept that hans could crush your chess heroes 😂 i also probably bet youre a 300 elo player
neh, Hans can't win even online, he's just one more super GM in speed chess. But Magnus and Naka are their own league. Hans is good but he's being overhyped and probably here was motivated af and Alireza was like, eeh lets see
Okay so we proved Alireza can’t beat stockfish
Is Firouzja facing Hans Niemann or a super computer like Stockfish or Alpha Zero ??
Hans is strong what you are up to ?
hans joke noman is cheating here. It is obvious. he is pathetic.
Clown
It's legit, Alireza almost lost to andreikin as well, Bullet portion saved him
Unbelievable that he’s cheating already
How to trust Niemann?
It's pretty simple to see if someone is cheating, especially in Blitz games. Where it's pretty much impossible to cheat against a GM, where you have to make 10 moves in a few seconds. If you either; make like 30 perfect moves within a few last seconds, thats sus. Or when you make perfect moves for all the game, but in the last few seconds where you don't have time you make a lot of amateur blunders, thats sus.
Just like Kramnik said, Hans plays badly. Then "something" seems to get switched on and he crushes his opponent. The first few games seem legitimate anyway.
😂 that’s what losers say
@@reconnaisance I'd rather believe what the real good players say, it's obvious to them. No one in the world could do this to Alireza.
Good players? Not one of them accused Hans of cheating, not even Alireza. "No one in the world could do this to Alireza" bruh if you're not sarcastic you must be high on something @@greggle
@@greggleMagnus and Naka can do this to Alireza. Alireza is inconscient thats why he got beat but at his best can be a serious threat. Look how andreikin almost beat him, Alireza could comeback but alireza only won because of bullet. Now, is it Hans or is it Alireza? If it's Hans, then andreikin is one of the best too
@@juliocadavid6640 Hans
The only way to defeat cheaters is to flag them.
There is hearing device inside the ear of that cheater nieman. They should check that in onboard tournament. I told you there is someone telling what to move specially if the game is lived !!!!
Amen
Tell me youre 300 elo without telling me youre 300 elo 😂
Something along those lines
You think he can make like 20 moves in a few seconds, with someone in his ear that is watching and screaming, if he moves pawn to a3 move your queen. And then with all possibilities. Yeah....give me a video of someone in the world that has used it against a GM and making such quick moves...
Quite legendary, either no on in the world has been caught...or Hans has never been caught in all the hundreds of games and no one even noticed some person close-by watching, and franticly with stress sending 20 messages in a few seconds seeing as you have to account for all the possible moves from your opponent.
Where's the person in these hundreds of games, show me?
1:28:00 premature resignation?
Firouzja, #5 in classical, 2800+ recently, the highest rated (OTB) blitz player 2896 in the world (Magnus is the second) is being outplayed mercilessly by Hans Neiman 2660 classical, 2614 blitz OTB. Go figure.
Hans Niemann is way stronger than his current rating suggests.
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@@AKhan0372 Perhaps. It is possible; but usually it happens when a young player becomes really strong really fast. He was at 2700 and fell back again. Perhaps he will go back to 2700. Firouzja is usually in the top-3 in titlled Tuesday. and Hans beats him 13:10?? @2660 to play like 2800? Let's just say I am not convinced.
@@michaelrorer362 Magnus along with many other top players have lost around same amount of points. World number 2 is 2786 .. last year there were bunch of them close to 2800
@@michaelrorer362 You are not convinced of what, dude?I watched the match live. Both Aliraza and Hans were streaming. You are a moron if you think he was cheating while streaming (on camera and talking) and under intense scrutiny all the sites and people. Grow brain, dude
Hans beating one of the World's best bullet players. While he gets smashed by chess brahs. Nice
Human performance.. competitors cannot always be at their best. Some people have more radical highs and lows than others.
Bullet players and this is blitz. And Alireza isnt in shape, danya well, danya is so dificultt to understand
Great match with some good variation in openings to try varioius things.
No idea what’s going on but think hans should be completely banned from every comp no harm x he can play stockfish his mentor lol from now on xxx
Quite an honour to have someone wiser than Alireza Firouzja on chess with this fascinating vision.
As long as Hans hasn't come clean about what he actually did (he has merely tried to deny it) he will not be seen as 100% clean even if he is. He could easily do this and start over from zero, but I doubt he will. It is like the athletes from the 80s that try to explain away their ban resulting from doping controls. What is good about this is that the question is hi-lighted, we only need better controls, the ones we have now are pathetically bad and if someone wants to cheat without detection this is no problem really, and the only way we can understand that cheating has been conducted is by post analysis of the game quality, which works on probabilities alone and are no proofs of cheating.
That’s a long diatribe without any substance. There was no cheating involved vs Magnus-nor the POSSIBILITY of cheating in that scenario. All they can make of is memes which honestly doesnt make sense.
Come clean about what? Perhaps you can come clean about the clear evidence of cheating, and no one in the world either knows about it, never talked about it and has never been caught using it......
The doping analogy also makes zero sense as well....did people know about doping back then? Discuss it? Why would a champion athlete use the doping to lets say win a high-school tournament, quickly stop using doping all together, go to the olympics for instance and win fairly. Then come clean to the world how he used doping at school once.
That would be the correct analogy.
Simply a tragic comment.
In the very last game, at the very end (1:44:00) ...Rb6 is a draw.
Kong f5
Yes. Kf5 is a better move for white than Kh6@@AhmedAli-tv1qq
@@AhmedAli-tv1qq better is Kc2
Niemann has such incredible online strength. If only he could concentrate just as well otb.
Hard to concentrate with those beads though
@@roydondsa He seems to lose concentration without them.
Online Hans is incredibly strong. Over the board his rating has dipped sharply since the controversy and improved OTB anti cheating.
That's because he was not invited to big tournament and had to play in tournament where a lot of lower rated GMS are playing and where there is is greater risk of losing rating points.
His all time high rating came 8 months after the Sinquefield Cup.
@@AKhan0372Hans didnt even win those "easy" tournaments
@@juliocadavid6640 it´s really sad how nowadays people often lack critical thinking skills
If more top GMs player in every open tournament like Hans was they would also lose a lot of rating. You see that in the World Cup. These players only play in invite tournaments to keep their rating
other players win: we so good
hans wins : cheater
Alireza got destroyed after teasing hans "wasted too much time trying to outplay me" in early rounds. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please upload Nihal vs Hans. Good vid, Hans is a very strong player in blitz ngl
chess speaks for itself !
Both had fights with Mangus 😅
I hope Hans has good advisers now and listens to them. The games look legit, now he needs to build a reputation as someone who has learned from his mistakes. He’s clearly a strong player, and it would be a shame losing him to him being (his old) him.
I also hope that he will be caught and imprisoned for a long time for fraud :)
His old him...😉
wooow Hans is such a strong player, especially online.
yes:)))) best player of the world. But he cant speak, chess speak for him :)
@@eduardtsuranov712Haha best player? keep dreaming, not even close. Magnus and hikaru are way above Hans and even now that they both are not active. Magnus and Naka never lose a match/minimatch. Go see how Hans does. Not even close, Alireza is better than this
I brought some data, Hans has drawn tone of matches against players Magnus and Naka adopted. Lost to artoon (or something like that) a player Naka and magnus adopted. Lost to some 3100, jospem and nihal for example. Players Magnus and Naka demolished. Aaah, and nihal the day before yesterday, murdered Hans brutally. Hans is just decent
Unbelievable
@@juliocadavid6640yet somehow he beat Alireza in a blitz match...
Chess assist was on
cheat
Really nice games !!! Both of them are very strong players 👍👍👍Huge skill, very instructive.
Great show by HN, proving that he is super clean by winning in time scrambles against super quick AF.
He lost most of the time scrambles
Hans showing his strength....very impressive.....
Firouzja so strong!!!
Lost though... What are you talking about
Go Niemann
Watch out Magnus!
The said truth is: a strong player (2500+) can cheat very easily, because only need 1-2 help in hard moments and nobody knows when this tiny help happened and how..
clown
Clown
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Clown 🤡
I still don't understand the whole cheating discussion, the tragedy of sad people. So they're proposing he used an undetectable way to win with technology with I guess all the games he played against GM's. Even blitz games.... However, no one in the world has seen this machinery, let alone being used by someone...in the world. With so many technology in the world and chess globally it happened to a chess prodigy from a young age that somehow got his hands on it.
No one would expect that from all the other 99% of decent, not good, chess players in the world not one of them heard of this device? Used it to become better, it was an already random world champion GM that cheated 2 times when he was young online in a meaningless game.
Прикольно было бы повторить матч но в живую. Думаю лохматый взял бы не больше 2 очков
What a Joke. This loser against Firouzja winning.... Lol 😂 😂 😂 😂
I dont need to say what every body thinks..
everybody thinks you stink.....no need to say it
@@jadezee6316 watch your dirty mouth
let's be honest, Once a cheater always a cheater@@jadezee6316
carlsen lover?
@@SaeedAcronia0 iq take
Damn they should’ve had Hans play the speed chess championship instead of Nepo
El ajedrez habla por si mismo
Hans plays a stronger game. Firouzja finds great interesting moves like Hikaru but is off a bit. I really was hoping Firouzja to be better.
Support hans
Hans owns you Alireza
*Engines
I wonder if Hans is cheating. I said what I said.
If he is then he is doing it successfully. Very impressive... If someone breaks the rules but no one can prove it then maybe people ought to rethink the rules. In any case, if all people are going on is their assumptions or bias and they think he is cheating.. that is very foolish.
Changed my mind about Hans. Go prove your haters wrong!
mnogo brz sah.
Hans admits he cheats
except that you literally just admitted that you're a salty basement dweller
He cheated* past tense. People should accept it when they lose. Whether it be magnus or kramnik 😂
We all have Magnus Carlsen to thank for the imposter hans (the joke) noman admitting that he is a serial cheater.
@@reconnaisanceThe thing we always need to remember about hanzee (the joke) noman is his "willingness to CHEAT" *always present tense.