He was ARRESTED for making this
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2024
- This is an episode in the Extreme Chempilation series - expect mild profanity and stories that some viewers may find disturbing.
In this video we have a story about TATP, which is a dangerous explosive chemical. Do not make explosives unless you know it is safe, legal and have professional training in the preparation of energetic materials. One person can threaten the lives of many people, and making explosives without taking appropriate precautions is irresponsible, dangerous, and is disrespectful to the safety and well-being of others.
Summary
This video discusses the dangers of making explosives without proper training and precautions. It tells a story of someone who made a large amount of TATP, a highly explosive chemical. The person shares their experiences and mistakes, including blowing up a snowman with 40 grams of TATP and making a batch using half a gallon of chemicals. The video emphasizes the extreme danger of TATP and advises against attempting such activities.
Highlights
💣 Someone made large quantities of TATP, a dangerous explosive chemical.
💣 Blowing up a snowman with 40 grams of TATP.
💣 Mixing chemicals together and finding the jar boiling in the refrigerator.
💣 Pictures showing large amounts of TATP made by the person.
💣 The video warns against attempting such dangerous activities and emphasizes the extreme danger of TATP.
(The 'Summary' and 'Highlights' were generated using Glarity)
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Age-gated too I think. Weird cuz I didn’t get a pop-up warning while watching on my phone, but I couldn’t play the video from my Watch Later list on my Xbox.
@@aWildNelbyI confirmed my age on Google which means I don't get pop ups for age restricted
@@AntimatterBeam8954 It's interesting. It seems that whether or not it asks for ID depends on the country your account was created in
@@U034F I didn't know that, I'm from the UK. Interesting how country laws may come into this.
@@soundspark UA-cam 🙄 some of the videos you get that aren't demonetised are actually really awful. There isn't really consistency or logic about it. Terrible.
Inhaling ozone to get rid of a sore throat is like doing chemotherapy because you are tired of shaving your head
Ozone: Guaranteed 33 percent more healthy than plain old O2.
Or using a pneumatic hammer to get a nail in the wall
@@heavy0119 so does that explain the big hole in my wall after trying? (Sarcasm if not obviously obvious with its obviousness)
Nah, it depends on the dose. Small doses in moderation do activate Your immune system epigenetically. This is like as if You're a Chemist and only know the health implications through safety data sheets... Sorry for being shitty.
@@AnalGraveyI've adressed him propperly;-)
My jaw dropped when the TATP pictures were shown. That is actually insane.
Cokaboom
Me too bro lmfao
Multiple cofee filters full of dry tatp, even if just burned, the fireball would be full body 3rd degree burns.
That's a lot of TATP. I would not use coffee filters, though, because you would need to grate them to get the TATP flakes. I made mine in a plate, raking the TATP as it was produced when adding the nitric acid (I don't like hypochloric or sulfuric acids, they stain the final product). The problem with that is the result is wet, and drying it near the chimney was not my brightest idea ever. About 5 grammes gone altogether. Now, it's excellent against moles (the animal in the ground), but you need to prepare on site. I haven't tried, but it looks TATP dissolves in acetone, which may be a little more stable, what you think?
As horrifying as those pictures are, dying from ripping a line of TATP is certainly a way to go.
Mind blown
@@0Arcoverde 🤯
*pop*
@@0Arcoverde Literally
Nosedive in, Tony Montana-style.
Seeing all that on the pool table is like seeing the explosive equivalent of the photo of Elephant’s Foot at Chernobyl. Intense feelings of danger and unease.
Dude got TATP laid out on the table like blow in _Scarface._
@@bcubed72A good chance of not having a face to scar after laying all that out.
Yeah, little brother comes in rubbing his feet across the carpet to give it a little shock.
well if i could choose id probably take elephants foot. more calculatable and "safer"
(Having only read the title) "Well that can't possibly have ended well."
(Having watched that segment) "How did he survive to post about this?!?!"
(Having watched the whole video) "HOW IS HE NOT EVEN THE STUPIDEST PERSON IN THE VIDEO?!?!?!?!"
TATP or APEX (by a different name) is a substance I'd never touch in any meaningful quantity. Hell, the name acetonePEROXIDE should tell you enough. I mean, it's an organic subsance with more than enough oxygen... It's only a matter of time before it turns into a high explosive...
However, it seems that it's stable enough that it's regurarly used for terrorist attacks, because it doesn't contain any nitro groups, that could be detected by airport explosive detectors.
On another note, I know that unstabilized diethylether bottles after a while in storage, have a tendency to make peroxides / to explode.
I heard that TATP has a "timer" mechanism, because as the crystals grow and change in time, it becomes more sensitive, until it goes off from room temperature.
That is very very scary!
peroxides are really one of the most scariest things i've known including HF and powerful energetics!
I might have made some years ago not trusting what I heard in the news. Obviously this going back to early in the war on terror well past the statute of limitations.
In terms of sensitivity it's really overplayed. Like you hit it with a hammer and it doesn't go off because you never hit it hard enough the first time. It takes a good whack.
One really surprising thing though. It really does just sublimate. The small pile you leave out because what are you going to do with it after your own sensitivity tests. Yeah it totally slowly disappears on its own.
At first you question it but don't want to draw on your filter paper because well it's still TATP. Then it's so much less than it was you can't deny it anymore. A few days, maybe a week later it's completely gone.
No boom. No burning. It just sublimated so fast it doesn't exist anymore.
That was the part I found scariest. That it's unstable enough to just disappear on its own with no bang or fire.
Yeah TATP is seriously fucked, far too unstable to be useful for much and so easy to make it's alarmingly common that it gets made by accident.
@@RealCadde This is most definitely the case. It usually not very sensitive, which fools you into a sense of security, untill one time it goes off from not very much at all. It could most definitely detonate from an hammer impact. especially if it's dry enough.
TATP is no fucking joke, definitely not something to fuck around with.
I know a blaster who is retired and he spend his career working in a mine and blowing stuff up. He told me as a blaster you always stand with one foot in the grave and with the other foot in the prison!
I was an undergrad at Bristol University when they had to call the bomb squad out - 'add acetone until the solution goes colourless' was something along the lines of what I remember aha
i was literally about to comment this, happened a couple of years before i started my PhD there
Scary easy to do by accident 😳😵
A nonagonal heterocyclic ring filled with oxygen atoms with free orbitals? Sounds deafening!
Alright funny guy
it really is. if you watch youtube videos of it there's no smooth buildup of rushing air it's just *snap* and you're deaf. kind of like acetylene explosions.
It was all in the report .
What?!
I'm a pyromanic, an E/E Engineer, a Mechanical engineer, a qualified welder & someone who has..a bit of experience with boom booms, but seeing all that TATP looks like police evidence video of a busted Terror plot.
Like man...that is ALOT of explosives.... that's enough to level a house.
Something that rarely comes up is procedures for taking off PPE. I'm a carpenter, not a chemist, but one afternoon I'd been trimming steel roofing to length and having finished my shift I pushed my safety glasses up to my hair and then pulled them off. A large amount of steel shavings showered over my face and at least a couple of pieces ended up in my eyes. The same thing happened a few weeks later when my specs broke so i was wearing my full head welding shield instead. Bad stuff collects on you, even when you're being safe.
Craaazy. Now I'm lucky I survived my teenage years. Chemistry hobbyist and surprisingly in the late 60's/early 70's you could buy anything. I would spend weekends making things discussed in an oldie but goodie chemistry text. My very favorite reaction was making Sodium tetrathionate from Sodium Thiosulfate and iodine. But I also did way too many dangerous stunts. Iodine Monochloride, and, OF COURSE Nitrogen triodide. Was too afraid to work with cyanides - although ironically, I did manage Hydrogen Selenide and Hydrogen Telluride (all outdoors, holding my breath). Second favorite was Chromyl Chloride - yeah, that stuff. I reacted it with alcohol and when it went crazy, tried to put out with water... not so great either. Those were the days. Surprisingly I'm turning 70 this year. Woof. This did lead me into a science fair project where I was creating Transition Metal compounds with Saccharin, premise that it would chelate them. Beautiful crystals and interesting interactions and some soluble in Acetone. I wanted so very, very much to go for Chromium II Saccharin (my prediction is that it would be brick red like the acetate) but by then I didn't have the chemicals and equipment to do it. BTW, not totally stupid, no attempts at Nitrogen Chlorides - but later when I found out Hydrogen Selenide is 20x more poisonous than cyanide (something I refused to work with), well - too late. I feel for those who would have this hobby today with all the restrictions on what can be acquired. Enjoy your videos.
You should probably have been locked up, but you're my kind of crazy.
كيف اصنع ٣ كيلو كرام من ماده TATP
@@محمد-ر2ي9جi know how
I may or may not have seen someone make it in a one liter german beer mug 🍺
💀
There was ThyLabs making a bunch of Bromate in a beer mug.
@@Raffael-Tausend the reaction vessel of gods
A drink for the gods that sends you Straight to Valhalla
That's called a Maß, literally meaning, one measure.
i know an EOD guy in the military, and i've heard some horror stories about TATP taking out the "chemist" that was trying to make it. people always seem to go back to it again and again though
That picture of tatp is now also going to haunt me also
Genuinely those pics of the filter papers on the pool table is one of the single scariest things I have EVER seen on the internet and I used to run on &t etc when I was young and dumb
I know right - I couldn’t believe it when I saw it
There was a case near me a week or two ago of a guy making TNT in his basement. He had to get med flighted to the hospital when he blew himself up. Watching this he was probably making TATP not TNT
TNT is pretty inert and doesnt explode in small amounts. As far as i know TNT's basement synthesis doesnt produce anything sensitive.
Another possibility is that he was making Nitroglycerin/Dynamite. Most people think Dynamite and TNT are the same thing. Nitroglycerin is similar to TATP but its slightly less sensitive but its TNT equivalent is like 4 times that of TATP.
I love the comments section of this channel, so informative and nice
@@OneAngryVelociraptor pretty sure 90's cartoons are to blame for the TNT/Dynamite confusion ;)
@@SomeMorganSomewhereNot just 90's, I'd say.
@@Tunkkis Valid point, goes back further than that certainly but I'd say most people who were around to watch those and survived to today probably didn't try manufacturing bulk TATP at home ;)
In response to that story about taking random drugs, my older brother and his friend group actually have a term for that. It's "mystery drugs." Raves didn't used to check for IDs very often so he was running around the city at thirteen years old raving with his mates and they were *all* taking random drugs that they found off of the floor. Very disconcerting.
The thing is, that was far from the stupidest thing he did when he was younger. When he was living in Spain (as a young adult) a hippy told him that a free and entirely legal hallucinogenic plant could be found growing around the place. They made it into a tea. It made them hallucinate, but not in a good way. He described it as an almost perfect delirium. You'd be having a conversation with a friend for an hour only to suddenly realise that you've actually been talking to a wall. It's a miracle that none of them got hit by a car or something.
Either way, when he came back over a year later he described the plant to me and I managed to figure out what it probably was. Turns out it was Datura Stramonium, and he'd likely consumed a high dose of atropine, daturine, and hyoscine. It's a very poisonous plant and he's lucky to be alive.
That is nightmarish. I've seen deliriant replication videos, and they don't look fun at all. I can only imagine how much worse it would be in person.
@@oitthegroit1297 Yeah one of them shat on the roof, and then tried to piss on a girl while she was sleeping. The guy didn't remember any of it when he woke up.
Ah yes, rave floor roulette
Ohh, that was scopolamine from the Datura plant
@@oitthegroit1297top hat man from too much robotussin
3:05 - and God surely smiled upon these madlads that day. For had he not, they would be a mist.
So I'm a HAZMAT tech working for a contracting agency that does work with HHW collection facilities, and I come across a lot of weird stuff on a daily basis. Yesterday, when I got to work, I stopped to chat with my coworker in the parking lot while he was having a quick smoke. First thing he said after greeting me was "by the way, don't go into the poison room: there's some super volatile shit in there that someone brought in at the bottom of a bag of old medicine yesterday." He couldn't remember specifically what it was, so that left me guessing until we walked over to the containment area where our supervisor was. Turns out it was picric acid. Dry crystalline picric acid. We sealed off our poison storage room with caution tape, and had to leave it up to the facility management to call in the bomb squad in the next few days to dispose of it.
My school had a TATP incident that resulted in a controlled detonation on campus. It was cool, I went to go watch it in person (from a distance, behind a lot of caution tape lol).
Anyway, I talked about it in the Discord and the mods jumped in right away to politely stop the conversation. Shoutout to your mods, and to your whole organization and community for being thoughtful about what to share for educational purposes and what to keep quiet so as not to encourage unsafe behavior. I believe strongly in the mission behind chempilations, and as a broke student, I’m super glad it’s back on the main channel lmao :)
Delaware
@@samuelantonov9939 shh you’ll summon dennis
The nitric acid + glycerin reminds me of something I saw happening twice, in two completely unrelated labs I worked at (luckily, in different rooms): people would use ethanol and nitric acid to clean metal samples and, in both cases, some genius decided to speed things up by mixing them. In both cases, the mix exploded at random times several hours later. In both cases, the intervention of him whom we Italians call St. Arse (the patron saint of drunkards and dullards) made it so that nobody was around. I later read that it's a common idiotic idea, and a common cause of random explosions.
EDIT: I now realize the guy probably thought he was making nitroglycerin, which, contrary to popular belief, you cannot produce by just mixing the two.
I have never deliberately made any energetics, but I'm synthesizing some azo dyes for my research right now, and as part of the procedure, I have been isolating the diazonium salts prior to coupling for some of them. All of the procedures mention the diazonium salts being REALLY unstable, and potentially explosive, but for the most part, they just seem to decompose quickly, usually into an oily liquid, instead of my lovely white salts.
And then I diazotized 2,6-diisopropylaniline. I could tell that the yield for the isolated salt wasn't great, but I wanted to get a mass to decide how much I needed of the chemical I would be coupling it to. I scraped it carefully from the filter onto a piece of weigh paper, turned from the scale to grab my pen, which was right next to it, and by the time I turned back (less than 5 seconds!) I had a lovely, smoking film of no-longer-diazonium-salt, along with a scorch mark in the middle of the weigh paper. Fortunately, the 15 mg or so I had burned itself out pretty quickly, so I didn't have to worry about containing a fire, but after that experience, my PI and I decided I'd never be making more than 100 mg of the isolated salt...
Actually in my experience drug abusers do actually lose their stash a fair bit.
only users lose drugs
Yeah as a fentanyl user I partially support my habit by finding other users lost stashes. Lots of junkies nod out and leave their pills on the sidewalk.
@@RM_1917 that sucks and i hope you can get out of it my dude. Whatever the case, harm reduction harm reduction harm reduction
In my
Experience
Loosing shit is part of it
@@internetuser8922 next level word play
8:28 the only thing scarier than a live explosive is an explosive that should have detonated but didnt.
Not a professional chemist in any sense, but the moment I saw those coffee filters on the table filled with TATP, I was like, "HOLY SHIT..." 😂😂
All it would take is a loose piece of plaster from the ceiling and half the house would be spread out over a quarter mile.
That dude........is INCREDIBLY lucky! 😲😅
Even more so at the fact that he managed to somehow fill that container later on.
A fellow student was making something like 100g TAPT in lab. He thought he was caught when the lab supervisor came with a look that he's something to talk about. He reminded the student that he was not wearing safety glasses.
I had an old bottle of 10-20g TAPT also in lab, just sitting on a shelf (clearly marked, typical white powder). As far as I know, it can sublime and there was no way I'd ever opened the lid. I never worked around it just to avoid it getting dropped. Nowadays, nobody would leave a bottle of TAPT around, much less so in a lab designated for use of an undergraduate. I think it was reckless to do even back then.
Once in elementary school I found a blister pack of tablets on the ground during recess. I didn't know all that much chemistry, but the label on the back said "HCl" and I recognized hydrochloric acid as something dangerous (in retrospect it was a hydrochloride salt and much less bad than I thought). I took it to the science lab and asked the teacher there to dispose of it properly, and that's the last I heard of those tablets.
I think that's a more appropriate way for a child to handle finding pills.
Or some chem student was a smartass and made 'acid' (the hallucinogenic biochemical) and labeled it 'acid.'
The glycerol and nitric acid story reminds me of something I red years ago in an old chemistry experiments book. Apparently, in the old days, an experiment that prooved how powerfully oxidising nitric acid is implied having a little bit of turpentine in a test tube and adding a single drop of concentrated nitric acid (preferably WFNA grade, but at least RFNA grade) to see the turpentine catch fire. Apparently, this mix was actually used as a rocket propellant back in the day, much like the aniline/RFNA or aniline/WFNA mixtures (for those interested, NileRed has a video about aniline mixtures). Now, the issue with the turpentine / RFNA mix is that, unlike the WFNA mix, sometimes the reaction has a delay time (probably based on the concentration of the NA in the mix). The book was warning that, if the reaction doesn't happen at once, under no circumstances should more acid be added and also warned against trying to scale up the reaction, especially in glassware. Apparently, the reaction still happens when delay time is observed, but it can take up to a minute for the mix to catch fire. After warning against adding more acid and scaling up, the guy who wrote the book stated: "The author himself was an eye-witness to an accident caused by this reaction. The person conducting the experiment had poured a rather substantial amount of turpentine in a round bottom flask. When he added a small amount of RFNA, nothing happened. The person waited a few seconds, than added a few more drops of RFNA to the mix, still with no effect. Than the person got annoyed at the lack of reaction and decided to pour the RFNA in a large batch over the turpentine. It immediately detonated very violently, the RBF was turned into many pieces of glass shrapnel and the author of this book considers himself lucky he was not hit by any, but others were. The person conducting the experiment lost an eye and their hearing was temporarily affected. " I am sure glad I never had to see something like that!
Sometimes, old textbooks are just the best.
If you're interested in liquid rocket propellants I HIGHLY recommend reading "Ignition!" by John D. Clark, it's equal parts hilarious, informative and just plain terrifying.
On hypergolicity he has the following to say;
"I used to take advantage of this property when somebody came into my lab looking for a job. At an inconspicuous signal, one of my henchmen would drop the finger of an old rubber glove into a flask containing about 100 cc of mixed acid -and then stand back. The rubber would swell and squim a moment, and then a magnificent rocket-like jet of flame would rise from the flask, with appropriate hissing noises. I could usually tell from the candidate’s demeanor whether he had the sort of nervous system desirable in a propellant chemist."
@@SomeMorganSomewhere I have that book as pdf. Will read it.
I didn't know you looked like Pyrocynical, lol, that makes chempolations even funnier since he usually covers people being stupid. Sub earned!
In high school in the UK back in the 80s (middle school for those in the US) me and my friends did a lot of dumb stuff, one time one of them had squirted an unknown amount of phenolphthalein into a can of coke and offered it to me as they’d heard it was laxative.. I was basically poisoned and spent the next couple of days at home in absolute agony with the most intense stomach cramps imaginable and feeling like I was actually going to poop myself inside out
Another time we had been doing the reaction between sulphur and iron filings making iron sulphide and after class me and a friend were mucking about in the lab on our own making hydrogen sulfide. Behind the fume cupboard in the corner of the class was a vent which went all the way down to the ground floor (the lab was on the third floor) and the cover was missing. For some reason, I decided to throw all of the iron sulphide down this vent followed by the beaker of acid and we then we left the school site for lunch break (I honestly didn’t consider what this might lead to, it was just a dumb thoughtless act)
As I was walking back to school late for my afternoon classes I saw that the entire school (probably about 1000 students) were all lined up in the schoolyard out front and as I walked through the gate my chemistry teacher ran over and grabbed me by the ear, dragging me to one side while berating me for trying to gas the whole school, I was suspended for the rest of the week and after that, I wasn’t allowed anywhere near the chemistry labs without close supervisionu
The Sulphur story, oh my God. 💀
What is it about crazy high school science teachers?
We had one that retired then had a psychotic break, he lived about 3 doors down from my house.
After he was taken to the loony bin his house was examined and he had massive amounts of toxic chems he had liberated from the school science lab or had made on his own.
Bottles of conc. acids, alkali metals, he even had a gallon of picric acid and a large amount of potassium cyanide, the police condoned off the whole area until the HazMat guys got done..
We never saw him again, I will never forget Mr. Martin.
if I ever see that much TATP in one place I think I might explode.
Those pictures are absolutely terrifying!
I started doing rocketry and smoke bombs from 14 to 18 years old because chemistry and rockets always fascinated me (I'm now in master of organic chem), and because they are both obtainable from a mixture of potassium nitrate and sugar. So one day i tried a new way of mixing things, usually i preferred to melt the sugar and after slowly adding the oxidizer alnd lastly wait for cool in a can, but this time i went straight to mixing the whole components in a direct process without the creation of caramel. When i went to test it i remember that at the beginning was difficult to set the reaction, so since it was just a static test i went with my face near the noozle to better light up the mix but as soon as it started it was so rapid and energetic that blew all the gas and heat straight to my face and i was blind and start coughing so hard. Thankfully after a quick shower in a fountain my eyes and face were all ok and i just had the bad smell of burned cheratine.
Another time in a apprentice lab i was asked by the boss to find a way to solubilize a salt that was like 1g/L soluble in water to 100g/L. I said that was impossible and even if i did i was thinking that idea at the end wasn't helping the situation in a effective way. But you know i said ok and started trying something with various acid and bases. After a afternoon of trying this bs i was tired and mixing this eppendorf with 50 ml of nitric acid 16M and suddenly it exploded and some of it was really close to my right eye and i got acid bruises on my skin in my neck and near the eye. It was a bit painful but mostly it was so difficult an took so much time than expected to wash it off. Remember always wear googles and make sure the fuming hood door is closed when you're doing something inside it, because i risked so much that time and it's so easy to get tired and not think about it if is not an automatism. Bonus fact while i was using the eyewasher i was so much in hurry that it come off and all the water started spilling in all the lab and one my coworker saw me passing through the corridor and seeing me through a window and we all started laughing in that awkward and comical situation of me fighting with the eyewasher spilling everywhere and with an eye close, but after 3 seconds he ran to help me lol.
A friend and I used to play around with picric acid (he had a friend who was an industrial chemist and who gave him all sorts of reagents and lab equipment). We would put that stuff in little, thick-walled glas bottles and light it with a fuse, causing the bottles to fly off, whistling like demons. A few years later, when we had grown apart, I learned that he had tried to produce nitroglycerine. He lost both hands and blew the roof off his parents house. Sobering...
Story 2
Those guys need to go back to their careers licking windows.
Ha ! Got a " may be inappropriate for some users " warning on the video now .
Congratulations, sir .
You have achieved peak UA-cam.
Good video!
sad thing that this video was demonetized
6:45 ozone air purifiers are extremely common where i live. every house has one, including mine. my parents have one in their house, but it puts out a LOT of ozone to the point where you can smell it if you stand near the vents. ozone just has its own weird ozone smell. its the smell of a fleece blanket in the dry winter air after you whip it around. all the static charge and discharge from a fleece blanket like that creates a small amount of ozone
It can also be smelled right after a thunderstorm. Or during, if it isn't raining and has been thundering for a few minutes.
In Grade 11 chemistry class, there was a lab where we were making aqueous solutions of various non-metal oxides (CO2, SO2, NO2, etc.) to demonstrate the acidic nature of these molecules when dissolved in water. At one of the stations, we had a beaker with some water at the bottom, with two litmus strips floating in it. We were supposed to burn some sulfur in a fume hood and collect the SO2 in the top part of that beaker. I was putting away the long metal scoop that we used to burn the sulfur, when I heard my groupmate behind me inhale deeply through his nose before saying “Hey, smell this.” I turned around and saw that he had removed the beaker of Smoked Farts™ from the fume hood and was holding it in front of my face. At that moment, my only thought was that it could be worse: It could’ve happened at the NO2 station instead.
Side note: At one of the stations, we were supposed to dissolve CO2 in water and test using litmus strips. Because this was at a poorly funded public school, the CO2 was added by breathing into the beaker through a straw.
Holy crap, man! The mere fact that this dude managed to pull off his own survival while repeatedly betting his own life against all odds is a miracle in itself. The guy is the ultimate death cheater.
Who the hell in their right mind would even think of blowing up a beaver dam with TATP...
How do people make high explosives without the cops immediately being called?
Edit do not give me serious suggestions
they forgot to say 'in minecraft'
@@That_Chemistteam desolation episode 2: griefing with TATP
Well taking the consideration that story was from 2010. It was a different time. Some would say a better time. Also, you'd be surprised what you get away with if you keep your group small and lips tight. It's harder to do these days, but operational security is still possible.
I heard it's made in minecraft from household stuff that isn't really restricted, so if no one tells the server mods...
Because cops thankfully don't have psychic powers
I remember when the Ex&F discord got so tired of people posting their questionably authentic tatp adventures that the mods made a rule specifically banning mention of tatp on the server.
I just hope that the contaminated soil wasn't from a place where anyone was growing food. Always get your yard soil tested before starting a vegetable garden.
Yes! People don’t always understand the inherent risk of consuming plants grown using unknown soil
I think i accedentally made tatp while trying to strip chrome off steel.
I had mixed HCl and peroxide in a beaker (really easy way to strip chrome) and as i dipped the part into it i noticed a white precipitate as the acetone from degreasing dripped into the stripping mixture.
Thoughts? Did I make a no-no or could it have been something else?
Definitely very likely you made TATP....lol
@@Chris47368 that's frankly terrifying and not the answer i was hoping for.
@@drrrrockzo meh, the way you described it sounded like you probably made it on the low milligram quantity at most... which if it went off it might sting/injure you a bit but would probably not be too devastating....but yeah....its definitely healthy to be terrified of compounds as explosive and unstable as TATP.... regardless, its something to avoid doing again in the future 😅
@@Chris47368 Yeah, definitely added a rinse between cleaning and stripping in the future. XD
@@drrrrockzo That indeed sounds a good way to mitigate the problem into the future! :D
My bro railing TATP like its 74 disco club
The TATP story was most terrifying. But I don't believe the potassium streetcar story.
I helped make ammonium perclorate composite propellant in a HPTB matrix at a workshop at a high power rocket club. Our instructor was a retired chemistry proffesor and we took a lot more precautions with the fire and chemical safety when making a propellant known for being hard to ignite and self-extinguishing if the pressure vessel blows out an end cap than these guys did with materials infinitely less stable.
From an energetic standpoint, ACAP is far safer than large black powder or rocket candy because it isn't brittle and prone to cracking damage and has a very high activation energy that is provided by the energetic coating on the firewire e-matches used to ignite the motors from a safe distance.
That said, ammonium perclorate absolutely requires a dust mask, and the isocyanate derivative used to cure the HTPB is a contact allergan which can cause sensitization, so PPE is not optional.
My dad (born in the mid twenties) told me that when he was in high school they would make small amounts of nitroglycerin in one of the labs. Like a super tiny amount per student. One of his classmates thought it would be interesting to make a large amount of it and no one noticed him until he was done and he asked the teacher what he should do with it to get rid of it. They had to evacuate the school and get professional explosives handlers to get it out of the school. This was in downtown Chicago. He said the guy had made a massive jar and they were told later it would have taken out at least the school and part of the buildings across the street. If I remember correctly, the guy that made it got in a TON of trouble officially and received a lot of beatings from the others students for quite a while afterwards because he almost killed the whole school.
Just yesterday, I was joking on your video about the guy who drank acetone that he shouldn't chase it with hydrogen peroxide.
Having a background of doing site exploitation with chemical weapons and clandestine labs making explosives seeing that much TATP activated my fight or flight dear lord he's lucky he didn't die
if you have access to pure oxygen and a hi power ozone generator and place the generator in an aquarium and fill it with oxygen and create loads of O3 and bubble it thru standard peroxide, how strong will the peroxide become.... ?
I've played around with Tannerite and I make sugar rockets and that's energetic enough for me.
I have blue sphere silica gel if I store it long term saturated in pink color will it break and release water or liquid inside the shoe box?
Wow, that much TATP is the stuff nightmares are made of.
There was an incident in Ukraine a decade ago where a student used to put citric acid on his chewing gum to make it taste better. On this occasion he instead put a similar looking explosive in it and blew off his head, might have been TATP idk
I'm getting a T-shirt made, with the inscription on the front: "I enjoy the recreational use of nitric esters of polyhydric alcohols. It's a real blast." I could wear that around town, and I'm sure no one would know what it meant..
Passerby: "Are you into drugs, or what?"
Me: "Why yes! 1,2,3-propane trinitrate is a heart medication!
Even explosive experts fear TATP. It’s crazy, my jaw dropped and I was genuinely shocked to see that much.
4:02 people addicted to pills absolutely do loose them, i lost some of mine on multiple occasions and found pills in blisters laying on the street on multiple occasions, 3 times they were narcotic in nature.
Now im sober for 2 years but i still have a habit of picking up all the blisters and boxes of medicines i find on the street to check out if they are psychoactive.
8:50 I'm pretty sure this is just terrorism
As someone with a lot of health conditions, I might not always carry around all my pills but yeah, I do carry more than simple pain meds at times including controlled ones (legally prescribed). I always have prescribed opioids at the very least on me. So assuming it was just simple pain meds is so wrong.
Imagine someone snorting tatp not knowing what it ia and the head just... pop
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would you consider doing an overall toxic things tier list. Like gases, neurotoxins, nerve toxins, the big boy chemicals?
biological toxins will dominate. They are worse by orders of magnitude.
That first guy is lucky he didn't blow his house up... holy hell...
A while back my friend found an old chemistry book and decided to make pottassium cyanide (he is a new chemist without any ppe) after he made it he decided to keep it in a drawer in his room without a lid and like a day after he got bored and poured the cyanide out in a forest near his house
As someone else who has common sense and who loves nature, that made me cringe.
i understand that it goes off pretty fast..... but I am not an expert for sure. Humidity, moisture etc apparently reduces it's effectiveness down to zero, pretty fast
This is such a minor fuck up but i was trying to clean some old nail polish off mirror, so i got some acetone and poured it into a styrofoam bowl because I didn’t want to dirty one of the glass ones. That was the night i found out nail polish remover dissolves styrofoam. I also got the remover all over my floor
I found out about that as a kid. I used that goo to make little bits and pieces for my Barbie house, like a tiny tea set. I also gave one of my barbies elf ears, modeled a hand for another one after the dog chewed it off, and made countless Barbie-sized swords that fit perfectly into their hands. Then I moved on to making Barbie armor from it. Except I needed larger amounts for that and around that point, handling this stuff was making me feel a bit odd and I developed some kind of instinctual repulsion. I was using acetone-free nail polish remover (better for the nails, apparently), no clue what I was getting, but the fumes could make me quite dizzy - but I didn't care because it was better than any of the modeling clays I could get at the time. There was a lot of polystyrene laying about from all the apartment buildings on the block getting insulation. I was maybe 12, I think.
You know what’s scarier than a big explosion, assuming your family isn’t getting uav’ed, no explosion
3:30 These guys were immensely lucky it wasn't cancer or gout medication for example. Popping mystery pills from a blister pack you just found somewhere may end in pooping into a colostomy bag for the rest of your life, or worse.
I did something similar as a teen; I'm so glad it was just some mid level pk and not anything else my relative was on. Definitely a good reminder to my adult self about teenagers not having functional brains.
OMG! That is enough TATP to make the entire block into a crater and probably kill everybody in the next blocks over too!
Links are deleted for the proper Medical uses. Info still Banned on YT
Hey how about a teirlist about the carcinogens in cigarette smoke?
Wow that's a lot of bang, imagine the shrapnel coming off that much if something went wrong.. that's beyond scary
how is that first guy alive 💀
Isn't Chloroacetic acid a strong alkylating agent?
That dude deserves a f****** medal for making that much TATP and not blowing himself to Kingdom Come! I experimented with a couple grams of that stuff and it's a big nope!
I used to generate a lot of ozone, because it had good smell when was young... Never achieved concentration that it would be painful to breathe in... I would suspect, that wasn't ozone, but HCl? That had me knocked out 2 times quite badly.
The worst "chemical" thing I've done would probably just be injecting and snorting fentanyl.
He’s finally done it
bit late to the fun but the streetcar story reminded me of one that one of my dads friends did during uni - they waited until the streetcar came in to a station and set off a thermite reaction beneath the wheels. this would obviously drop molten iron onto the tracks and wheels which they then cooled with water - sticking the wheels to the track and generally causing chaos.
Like that one commenter, I too have a dad who got up to some wild shit with explosives in his youth...
Such as, a story he once told me, about his first date with a girl... he took her out to the woods (great idea) to set off fireworks (really amazing)... homemade and illegal fireworks (absolute genius move) and, as you might expect, it. Did not go according to plan. The thing blew up in his face somehow, and he was rushed to the hospital in agony with second-degree burns all over his face, save for where his eyebrows had just been before they got exploded off of his face. He was in excruciating pain and was given morphine, and eventually his face recovered and his eyebrows grew back.
Now, the craziest part of this story... the girl kept dating him after that. And her mother LET her keep dating him.
How do I know that part? Well the girl was my mom.
And I asked my grandmother if the story was true... she said it was! "I shouldn't have let her keep dating him, but he was such a smart and polite young man" is what she said about it. I wouldn't have called a pyromaniac teenager who thought homemade fireworks would make for a fun date night, any kind of "smart", but I guess he must have really impressed her!
Another story that I don't know the context of, and it doesn't really need it:
Teacher: "What are you doing?"
Teenage Dad: "Making napalm!"
Present day Dad, recounting the story: "And that's how I learned it's okay to lie to authority!"
He definitely got safer about fire by the time he had kids though... I grew up learning important lessons about fire safety, in a safe way! Such as: Don't make your own fireworks. Don't make napalm! Don't set things on fire when it's dry out. (We used to do model rockets as a hobby, and would cancel rocket days if it wasn't a wet day.) Magnesium shavings can be used to help start the fireplace when it's struggling, but don't look at the burning magnesium because it's so bright it will burn holes in your retinas. And, most importantly: Fire can burn things and is dangerous!
Thankfully, pyromania doesn't seem to be inherited, at least in this case, as I am too cowardly to so much as strike a match without supervision, and probably a lot safer for it :D
I have a sodium story that my elementary school chem teacher told us. When she was in collage, some of her friend stole some sodium from the school labs to make improvised fireworks apparently. The had the sodium in their room in the dorms in a jar with oil. Someone must have found out about the sodium and dorm manager went to the room to confiscate the sodium. One of the students tried to hide the sodium.... in the toilet. Water leaked into the jar and the toilet exploded. Some pieces of the toilet went through multiple walls. Don't know if anyone was injured, sice it was told to me some time ago.
blister pack story: it might have been birth control? that's the only RX blister pack i know someone would take with them and could feasibly lose and not notice
if they are that dumb, they can tell when their contraceptive has dropped on the ground 9 months earlier, because they just had a baby. The people who can't remember anything often recall that they had a kid
Testicular cancer PP-E mandatory pun acknowledgement
8:35 sounds like grandpa would be fitting for modern prank era youtube
jesus, when i saw the title i thought he made maybe like 50g but thats fucking insanity
You need to collab with tales from the trip
In 2010 I visited a website with, among other things ranging from the sketchy to the illegal, a very detailed recipe on how to make bathtub nitroglycerin. I don’t know if it was accurate, because I did not try it.
That one time I found a blister pack with eight 10mg ambien pills, all intact, on friday on my way from work. That was a blessing from the universe, I totally didn't get zooted with the walrus that day lmao. Made the most scrumptious pan of pasta with crushed sardines instead of tuna and leftover corn crisps for texture. Hell yeah.
You know.... I shuddered. I ***ACTUALLY*** shuddered @2:30
I understand your nervous laughter at this. My visceral reaction was that shudder then I KIND of thought about pushing *S-L-O-W-L-Y* back from the monitor.
Yeah..... that was certainly a thing that guy did... and lived.
Lorenzo Zanelli is THE REASON they put "Don't Eat" labels on things like toothpicks and razor blades.
It Was In Fact Not Sodium Acetate... ***sigh***
Im into energetic chemistry. Not much time for it lately, which is whatever. Ive got a family and kids to be around for. But when i was starting out, i was incredibly unprepared for what i was making and "playing" with. Ive made tatp, never any incidents with it. I used to melt ETN and mix in different compounds to see how the final product acted. Well, that is incredibly dumb, because molten ETN is quite sensitive and ive no idea how i didnt blow off a hand. Ive had explosive mixes detonate in my hand when i was mixing them. Small amount thankgod, so all i got was ringing ears and a good scare. I had an incident involving PETN and lead azide, i had put some PETN on a witness plate (1/8 steel plate) and grabbed some lead azide to put into a makeshift blasting cap(pen tube with an end melted shut). I was holding the tube and putting little scoops of lead azide into it and it detonated in my hand, somehow, someway, static electrical discharge mabye. For a few seconds, i thought i blew my hand off as my hand felt like it got smacked with a sledge hammer, before i looked down and saw both hands intact. After that day. Im alot more careful.
I used to make crude explosives way back between the ages of 15 to 19. Match heads compressed into .22 casings, chemically made stuff, you name it I (and friends), so we did a few interesting things. One time I smacked one of the .22 casings with match heads with a hammer, on an anvil. It blew as usual, but this time it broke up a lot and I got my hand peppered with very small shrapnel. About 35 to 40 yrs later, I had a problem with some sort of pimple or lump in my hand..... dug it out a little, and I got the last bit of shrapnel out. Over the years, I had taken out a few. Lucky it wasn't my eyes or something.
Another amusing incident, 'we' went to a friends place with some home made black powder while his parents were at work. My friend made up an electric detonator using fuse wire , connected to a low voltage transformer (safety first !!). Assembled the 'unit' into a tin can, and buried it 4 to 5 feet down. Passed the electric cable out the window, connected it and went inside and detonated it. Well, that was an education. The hole blew out all the dirt straight upwards, and it was coming down softly like rain or snow.... all over the neighbourhood.
The neighbours had washing out on their lines. The hole in the ground still had steam and smoke coming from it. The sirens could be heard, coming in our direction. We hid under my friends bed, nervously, but also pissing ourselves laughing.... just very quietly.
This was because the local police were onto us .... and giving us a friendly visit..... like knocking on the door and demanding that we come out. We remained silent. After a few minutes they left..... And then I went back home , and when my father finished work, I asked him if anything interesting happened at work today. He was a local Police sergeant.... and he went on about the dumb-fucks who were setting off explosives fairly close to our place. (I never told him it was me and my friends). Lucky I wasn't caught by him though... it would have been pretty bad.
So... 8 months late, but my local pharmacy offers a service where they'll put all of your medication together in a blister pack, so it's easier to keep track of them and remember to take them. So be careful, those things could have anything in them, just because blister packs are normally just nyquil or some other painkiller, doesn't mean that's all they're used for, and there's a certain overlap between people who are very forgetful and also need to take very strong medication.
TATP is basically only useful if you want to be a "self-deletion" bomber, and it is happy to help you in that process. You comment about lines of coke is appropriate -I think I would need to do that much Hollywood dust to consider making TATP.
Phenol is actually used in throat spray as an anesthetic - I have some bought OTC in the US. As for ozonated water, I imagine it would be far less dangerous as a mouthwash vs. actually swallowing it. Remember, the standard mouthwash for dental injuries is hydrogen peroxide 3% in a gargle. On the other hand, pure ozone gas is crazy toxic, like inhaling halogens. Think of the difference between putting ionine solution on a cut and actually huffing iodine vapors.
That looked like the prop room from Scarface !
I was making hydrbromic in my lab for some reason. was holding the flask I went to open the Chem cabinet and I sat it down and I went to pick up the hydrbromic acid and dropped it and it bust and went every where
I'm not particularly an explosives chemist, nor even an organic chemist, so I didn't know what TATP was and thought a quick google search would at least let me know what it was so I could go "oh, that's not THAT bad." And then I saw "triperoxide" and went "oh HELL no". For an entertaining read I suggest Derek's Lowe's series "Things I Won't Work With." particularly the one about azidoazide azides which involves a chemical that (according to Marvin, I didn't want to look at it long enough to figure it out for fear my screen might explode) rejoices under the name of 1,1-diazido-N-(5-azido-1H-1,2,3,4-tetrazol-1-yl)methanimine. If you work it out it comes to two carbons, no hydrogens, and FOURTEEN nitrogens, which very obviously wants to turn into a rapidly expanding cloud of (mostly) nitrogen gas as at your earliest inconvenience.
When I was an undergrad I was doing a rearrangement that had to be kept at -78°C for an hour, then held at 0°C for 5 hours. I tended to get really bored during the 5 hours, and given that my grad student was super lazy about cleaning, I would clean some glassware around the lab. His base bath was next to a sink that had a tub of warm water in it, and I was trying to clear counter space to place my cleaned glassware before adding it to the base bath. I picked up a dish full of what i thought was water, but was actually the dry ice and acetone bath i had been using for my reaction, and just poured it straight in the tub of the hot water in the sink. I was met with a nice shower of frigid acetone and CO2 and got the living shit scared out of me, but I was fortunately unharmed.
Speaking of ingesting things not suitable for human consumption..
This one time, after coming home from an all night rave party in the mid 2000’s.. I took a nice long shower and brushed my teeth to trick myself into thinking my parents wouldn’t know that I’d been chain smoking all night (among other things).
I reached for the mouthwash after brushing and found a familiar style bottle in the vicinity of where one might usually find mouthwash in the bathroom.
I took a huge mouthful, noting the unusual yellow colour, and distinct lack of the familiar taste and smell of of mouth wash. In my daydream state I stood there, with music still playing while I looked back fondly of the events of the previous night.
After standing there for a good 7-10 minutes, I started noticing that my mouth was getting a little warm. The next thing I noticed was that the texture of my teeth, tongue and other tissues seemed to be very smooth, and then there was this strange flavour/door that I was oddly familiar with,
Unknown to me someone at the house had been cleaning and ran out of bleach, so the raided the pool supply’s and filled up an old mouthwash container with liquid Sodium hypochlorite, without diluting it or thinking to label the bottle.
Once I realised I immediately spat it out and rinsed for what seemed like 20 or so minuets.
It took an entire week to get any sense of taste back. I had absolutely no door to my breath for about 2 weeks after that and the smooth texture I felt for days after.
Another time wipe cleaning the pool that chlorine was for, I decided to mix the acid and the chlorine together before topping the pool off.
A few short breaths of the resulting gas later I was on the ground with a pounding head ache, debilitating nausea and my heard felt like it was going to explode. 10/10 do not recommend. It took about an hour to recover from that one fully.