PTI vs PDM vs The Establishment - Who won the Election? - Shehzad Ghias - Elections Analysis -
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Chapters:
0:00 Elections, Polling and Turnout
4:30 Political Chaos. Rigging and Legitimacy of the Elections
12:00 Anti Establishment and Omar Ayub Khan
19:00 How PDM 2.0 was created
24:40 Comparing 2018 to 2024 Elections
27:40 Form 45 Propaganda
33:30 The House Always wins, The Establishment and Cracks within PTI - Розваги
100 % Agreed with your Unbiased & Logical Analysis. Ma-Shaa-ALLAH عزوجل ! ! ! May ALLAH عزوجل Protect Our Nation & Our Country PAKISTAN from all Internal & External Enemies. Aameen ! ! ! May ALLAH عزوجل guide all of us towards his path of TRUTH. Aameen ! ! ! TRUTH Lovers ko SALAM ! ! !
Thank you sir!
Engineer sahab ek bar type krte hai aur vahi comment 10 logo ko forward karte hai isliye same comment rhta hai jis bhi channel me wo comment karte hai
How do we know that it is Engineer?
You pin him just because he says nice things about you. It could be your own burner account 😂
Engineer sahb what does hadith of sunan nasai 3959 says?
Let’s suppose you are guided to Truth about Pakistan by your Allah, we already know our Truth outside Islam and Pakistan.
Let’s suppose if truth is not clear to you by now that Establishment is who is running the government and but this guy know, then what’s the need for facade and election ? Then debate about Election Day and night that it’s rigged ?
I mean on this planet only Pakistani people with Jazba who can’t take any action. Just talk talk talk and talk and more talk.
Never won a war never lost an election __pak army
In india too early 1990 it used to be like this , but after that one man stood upto the politicians and he is Mr .Seshan T the Chief Election Commissioner was a watershed in the evolution of Indian democracy. For six years, with messianic zeal, he strove for free and fair elections by enforcing laws while warding off threats to the to the independence of the Election Commission. In the process, he had constant run-ins with politicians in power who wanted the EC to be an appendage of the government. There were several attempts to impeach him and get him out of the way. Although resented by politicians, his reforms earned him enormous public goodwill.
The tumultuous tenure of T N Seshan as the Chief Election Commissioner was a watershed in the evolution of Indian democracy. For six years, with messianic zeal, he strove for free and fair elections by enforcing laws while warding off threats to the to the independence of the Election Commission. In the process, he had constant run-ins with politicians in power who wanted the EC to be an appendage of the government. There were several attempts to impeach him and get him out of the way. Although resented by politicians, his reforms earned him enormous public goodwill. . Enforcing the model code of conduct was a formidable task. It was with the intention to clip his wings that two election commissioners were appointed. His initiatives for cleaning up electoral rolls, countermanding elections won through foul means counting of votes after mixing of ballots, closer scrutiny of statements of electoral expenses and introduction of voter identity cards were all well received by the public. He had to put up with a barrage of abuse. He was called a megalomaniac and termed dictatorial and whimsical. The public had a different perception. Seshan’s fusillade against self-centred politicians endeared him to the middle class . Several fan clubs emerged. Seshan thoroughly enjoyed this unprecedented popularity.
0:00 shehzad adjusting his underwear 😂😂
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Naah, it was just the jalapeno pizza that he had earlier 😂
In my constituency, which is in Rawalpindi, the PTI MPA initially won by a 6k margin, but after a recount, the Returning Officer (RO) rejected 15k votes and declared the PMLN candidate as the winner. This occurred several days after the election. Prior to the recount, the PTI candidate openly stated that they were pressured to join PMLN or face consequences. Similar incidents happened in other places, but I personally witnessed it in my constituency. In such cases, the ECP won't help PTI, so there is no point in compplaining this thing to ECP they facilateed this theft. Additionally, the claim that only 25-30 seats were affected is incorrect; even Asad Toor mentioned that more than 50 seats were manipulated.
Go Look, PTI has filed 300 cases with the Election Commission instead of 30. Let's stick to the facts without distortion.
Here is proof
ua-cam.com/video/D9m049gOJd4/v-deo.htmlsi=lMlHocexPDf_c-Xf
Bus kar do Randi Rona ab
@@sanji438 bro? Did I say anything to you if you have any facts you are welcome to share here.
Yes it is a Fact that supporters of Imran Nazi are crying wolf
Thora sa ro lo, Dil ka bojh Halka hojae ga.
right
What can a common person do?
Except getting mentally stressed after knowing all this…
Milk chor k baag jao
Common person thora demag lagaye jb jibran nasir jese log kharay hoty hain to unko aam admi vote nhe deta bus phr yae ho ga
@@HistorywithShahrukh Vote for ammar ali jan and jibran nasir
Pakistan is a classic example of a Banana Republic.
Shahzad, I’ve been listening to a range of conversations emanating from Pakistan. You’re an outlier due to the deep, introspective and honest self-assessment on your conversations. Contemporary and aligned with modern values - your show is fabulous! Love from India.
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Watch moeed pirzada this guy is a clown
@@hamzaghaziwhere do i go to watch him? In UK?
@@hamzaghazi True, Moeed Pirzada is quite incisive. Shahzad breaks it down with plain-speak.
Anybody with a sane head on his shoulder will realise that Moeed Pirzada is a deeply biased journalist batting for one party only. A journalist may have preferences but Pirzada talks like a member of you know which cult.
Finally an informative and rationale based analysis podcast in Pakistan.
Watching since the start of the TPE.
Please, also give some of your time that comedy podcast as well. I think it’s not only good for us but for your mental relaxation and expression as well.
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Bohat cancel hojatay hain hum 😅
See , Public demands comedy videos 👍
Hamari maange poori karo
or as pakistanis write:
Hamari maangay poori karo
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Someone tell him, PMLN formed the Govt on rigged elections.
Why is he criticizing PTI 😅
This guy is literally blinded by bias
And he hasn’t done a single program on how Marium Nawaz, who has lost elections on both seats, Provincial n Federal.. is now the CM of the largest province..
Shahzad, what exactly is your point … telling half truth will not let you survive too long in Journalism..!
imran khan was such a blessing for pakistan....... you people have betrayed that man for trying to improve your country's situation.
It's just Game of Thrones at the end of the day. It's just about Establishment's naukri. Pata nahi kab change aay ga.
Jab tak khoon nahi bahaye ga sarko pey
May, I ask why you just have to highlight some low points.. as you describe them… Why did you pick on Omer Ayub… being grandson of FM Ayub.. just to prove a point that PTI is also into politics of dynasty or electable.. by the it’s not Umer .. its Gohar Ali Khan, the acting Chairman of PTI and leader of Opposition.. who did is law degree from the University of Washington.. or a dozen others worth mentioning.. but u picked the weakest link.. may I ask why..?
Kp cabinet mai jo pooray rishtaydaar hain uska kya
Man Your research and The facts you provide. unbiased opinion. You Earn Respect 💞
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Love the video but what's with jacket? is that intentional for green and white?
Yes, TPE colours
Good job Shezad. Sensitization against anti democratic forces and creating political awareness is the new trend you are generating through your channel. Engaging and mature content. Kudos to TPE.👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
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I was just reading comments after complete video and majority still instead of accepting facts denying without any facts.YOU ARE DOING GREAT THANKS or apki hr video or issy bhi meri siyasi critical thinking enchance hoi hai atleast mujhy faida ho gaya hai thanks (or mera comment ka maqsad hi yeh tha ky apko mai apny result sy encourage karon because both negativity sy ap deal karahy ho).
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An honest man doing an honest job . Really admire your efforts shehzad bhai 👌👌👏
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I was waiting for you on this topic
Hopefully it’s worth the wait
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Well you are back peddling from your initial claims of 10-15 seats being rigged. The way in which the ECP has tempered with the form 45 is on the level of a 3rd grade student. Actually a lot of material in it for a comedian, provided he is willing to highlight it. But the sad part is that all this is not sustainable and will implode, question is when....
I update my opinion when I get new information. I am not married to my opinions, I follow the facts
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Yes if IK always takes UTURNS why can't others 😉...
I think this was a good analysis, politicians should sit together and kick the establishment out now is the right time.
1947 india got independence.... Pakistan got change of Command 😢😢😢😢
Its still company who is running the show
CJP first banned pti frm contesting election as a political party, disenfranchised its voters, open channel for horse trading, made a mockery of public mandate and now with a historical decision on ZAB corrected a historical wrong after 35 years...aap ye khena chah rahe hein Shehzad Ghias sahb iss chezz ko absorb karein hum?!!
one of the best videos I have seen from your side.
Please carry on spreading awareness. ❤
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you opened our eyes to reality. No one has ever said the things you mentioned. Thanks for enlightening us.
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Fear of Vigo is too strong in Pakistan
Intellectual dishonesties
1. PPP was never laadli - Bhutto was made PM after LOSING elections. Bhutto was cabinet minister of Ayub. Benazir did a deal with Musharraf to return after getting NRO.
2. Dhandli on 20-30 seats - Its far more. Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore, Multan etc etc.
3. Comparing 2018 to 2024 - PMLN leadership was allowed to campaign, all leadership contestested (except Nawaz and MNS). All efforts were made to dismantle entire PTI through tortures etc. 2 parties (PTIP and IPP) were formed to take away electables. Nothing of that happened in 2018
4. RTS in 2018: Before RTS PTI 117, PMLN 42, PPP 33. After RTS PTI 115, PMLN 65, PPP 45.
I have another conspiracy theory, why is it that you release a video right when I have my exams, or do I just lack the self control to watch it the day after.... But as always banger spot-on analysis ✨
P.S that green jacket has been suiting you well since the last 4-5 uploads
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Good luck!!!
Top stuff!!!
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Once more, Shehzad, thank you for clarifying a convoluted situation.
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As an Indian I think I have no right to comment here but Pakistanis should learn how to protest in national interest from the Anna Hazare protest occurred in India during 2010-2011. That woke the Indians against corruption. There's no sure way to determine if presenr BJP govt. Is corruption free but I have witnessed a faster rate of development and rise in Indian stature after the 2014 election.
Pakistan has to tame the military and prevent its interference in politics. Public needs to take stand
This channel #thepakistanexperience is the best channel in pakistan..❤
Full of information from present , past and lots of intellectuals in this podcast...
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Very balanced and well stated analysis. We, as Pakistanis, need to understand the real problem if we want to bring a change. If not, this drama will continue, only names/characters will change.
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Saying anything against pti these days gets you roasted everywhere am glad you can speak up to it.
Ab toh aadat see hay mujh ko PTI walon say troll honay ki 😅
As a non pakistani…I have been following pakistani politics since last 2 yrs… and I have not heard anyone/journalist/ analyst/media talking about their establishment/army who are the real problem for pakistani political instability. Its not about one party. There is problem since the pakistan born. Haha I love to hear at least one hour session from anyone from pakistan to discuss about the mess that pak army has created on pakistan. Look at your neighbour country who has fought and thrown their estabishment with success.
Today we realised that Maulana Abu Al Kalam Azad rightly opposed Partition of India.
WOW. Shazad at it's best! :)
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Came here after watching Engineer sab's comment ❤
Ohh... Wah Comedian Shahzad. You became analyst. Haha😂
imran khan was such a blessing for pakistan....... you people have betrayed that man for trying to improve your country's situation
बहुत ही बढ़िया समझाया आपने 🙏🏾 अब आप जैसे कॉमेडियन ही न्यूज बताते है असली
बाकी सब तो बिक गए या डर गए
रोड़े रोड़े 👐🏿
Respect from a Bengali person man your videos helped me a lot cause I gained enormous amount of knowledge from your works .May Allah bless you man .
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Wonderful fantastic talk,
All PTI supporters must watch
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*Power resides where men believe it does*
Establishment definitely has lost its “it” factor now. No amount of sternly worded statements by Corp Commanders Conference will change anything now. It’s just a piece of paper now.
That’s a big win for all democratic parties in long term; and big gain for PTI in short and medium term.
You are such a genius person.
I like your analysis. It is always rational and logical. Thank you.
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Have you listened to the speech of Pir Pagara His message was clearly for the Army he said Elections was early preplanned by the Army..👍🏻
Shehzad bhai kamaal kr diya analysis de ke. Respect!!
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It's a shame you say that Umer Ayub will be criticized because of Ayub khan
And yiu are ullo
That it's 2024, where, despite all hurdles, he remains unchanged
Amazing podcast sir
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And for that reason Animal Farm and Lord of the flies need to be in our high school syllabus
Excellent Analys of Pakistani election and politic .
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By his logic, Bilawal should condemn Bhutto's alliance with General Ayub and for calling him daddy
Where is the commissioner now?😂
just from the top of my mind..13 seats of pindi division 3 of isb.. atleast 10 from khi..3 from Lahore..2 from bahawalnagar 2 from Sialkot. 3 from gujrat..thats a total of 36..abhi or pata nhi kitni hain .
Very astute opinion and observations Shahzad Bhai. Simply perfect ✌️👌❤
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Thanks shahzad for rational thought
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As always great analysis. Must watch the ending of the clip. It is very funny
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Great Analysis thank u
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Very nice 👍. Agree totally agree with you.
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Let's consider the possibility of establisment being involved with both sides of the conflict. Is that truly problematic? It's far more detrimental to foster division within PTI than to embrace differing viewpoints and work toward a consensus. Unity is our greatest asset, and expecting every PTI leader to act uniformly is unrealistic. Speaking and writing about these issues is one thing, but taking action on the ground is significantly more challenging. I have immense respect and admiration for all PTI workers and elected officials for their voluntary commitment and efforts. They have mounted a formidable resistance against a corrupt government, and we should acknowledge their contributions while overlooking their imperfections. Now their main objective is to work for the release of Imran Khan and other PTI leaders.
25:24 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Democracy & Boys 😂
MNS& zardari have given up for their " descendents. " ...who are probably weak in many respects, so have settled for secondary roles... but this is not what people of Pakistan are looking for their " ideal leader. "...They are 💯 sure that the establishment can not deliver their dream Pakistan... due to its inherent constraints...history is witness to it 75 years is a hell of time..
Shazad how all of this will end will this circle ever end or we will continue as it is ?
No clue honestly
Excellent analysis
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Well & true said
Governments in pakistan are like grad school applications in US:
- your election result is like your GRE and GPA. They look at it okay this person has the numbers with him.
- your statement of purpose needs to align with the vision of professor (establishment).
- you must have excellent letters of recommendation (a reference from another big prof can help)
- your CV: what you have done in the past
- some english proficiency to represent pak in UN/ world forums etc.
*In short* Having a good gpa/gre/election results won't get you in a good grad school or make you the PM
Establishment, establishment and more establishment and there are few planted by them in the form of youtubers, self styled journalists
Who are being paid in the form of job and viwwrship to express narrative for lust of power.
And day is now far off when kashmir part will proceed like Bangladesh . It needs a simple spark
Welcome to banana republic of armistan
Bilawal proposed approval for electoral system reform in his first speech after taking oath in NA and PMLN also willing to support this, we can see clear revolt against establishment policy of feedering electables and temparing forms by ECP,
Good analysis...
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Good work
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Brilliant
Respect
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Bhai, you got to be fair. Don’t pick and choose
I like your U -Turn for your opinions on PTI :)
No U turn. Updating opinion based on changing realities
Bhai aap apnay U- turn pe focus karo, side se Hafiz munir agaya Tou apka kaam hogaya.
Sane voices should remain alive
Mai nahee bachay ga yahan 😅
8:12 More power to you Shehzad. And I love your analysis. What I have learned from you in the past two years, is that Pakistan is a sham and elite captured. I am now trying to save up and invest in elite companies so I can be a part of those elite profits…. If you can’t beat them, join em.
You had me in the first half 😅
Sarkari aaenge jaenge partiya ab banenge bigdenge .... pr ye Desh Rahana chahiye, es Desh Ka democracy Rahana chahiye..
Pakistanis all political parties must read these sentence every morning and obey with these lines.
Agree with manyt things you said but most of pti supporters i felt didnt see the balochistani protests as distractions they understood its the same state machinary being mobilized to supress their demands as had happend with pti .
I guarantee you this guy would have criticised PTI and it's supporters for hijacking other issues had they chosen to join this. Just hates PTI. Can't help it.
If you have to come up with hypotheticals to back your beliefs then about time you challenge your biases
Video mai Kuch nahee mila toh fake scenario bana lia to prove I hate PTI wow
Finally Shahzad bhai on the right topic of elections rigging
All topics are right topics
@@ThePakistanExperience khud ki tareef mat karo , let others do it 😉
No tareef. Just facts
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Thank you Shahzad bhai
This is called fair, balanced and to the point!!! Thanks bro
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Nice to see you coming back to form. However,I believe you are expecting too much of politicians. In politics, there are no perma friends or perma foes. It's always transactional. Moreover, I sincerely believe it's high time you should channelise all your acumen and effort towards the challenges that are going to be unleashed in the coming next months, many of which will be back breaking for the average Pakistanis. Politicians will continue to make mockery of all established principles and will do things to make themselves comfortable.
Hope people can see that too, watching the Messiah complex people have is nauseating
@@ThePakistanExperiencebut I see if you don't play messiah complex or show moral upright dont use religion you won't get popularity in Pakistan (take example even of a UA-cam channel the one using religion gets popularity and the one who tells facts have to make lots of efforts for years to reach even 100k) as public mindset is stuck with religion they want someone who use religion just rather they follow religion in true sense
Our mindset is thus like this developed unless our societal mindset their discourse don't change political change can't come
Our majority public need that leaders use religion our majority need that messiah to portray no politician can succeed if it doesn't do this .We have examples of Jibran Nasir - he is standing with principles but what is the use ?-He even in decades won't get elected by people for govt if he remain with those principles and people like IK NS,Zardari who join hands with Establishment getting deals will keep getting elected .
Our public to be intellectually sound for which the discourse for which our society must change so it understand politics so it understand what games are played with it but the thing is who can ?? -our education system is failure even many are out of it
A hoax created which has no solution
This country can never change and will continue to be ruled Like this for next 70 years too unless our politicians themselves get some senses of withdrawing themselves from doing establishment job or making efforts to get selected
12:42 I get so emotionally charged when I see what has happened to PTI supporters... A young man and his 8 year old on bike were stopped and the PTI flag ripped from their bike by the police, you could see that, that child will hate and fear the police all his life. Teenagers being pulled out of their cars and arrested for waving PTI flag, my neighbour an 18yr old tik-toker house raides 7-8 times since 9th may, his young sisters and brothers crying and screaming every time their house is raided.
and then you see these clowns representing them, and I am like wth? I have a soft corner for people who support PTI, and wish I can say more and stand more for them, but I could never support the people who lead PTI.
Same. Full sympathy for the voters
www.brecorder.com/news/40292308#:~:text=In%20a%20statement%20released%20on,for%20the%20May%209%20riots. And the leadership will abandon these poor kids
And here I was thinking Shehzad will soon upload Good bye Pakistan video. Good video as always. The people voted not for IK but against the Estab . I Wonder when The BOYS will stop being boys and grow up
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Goodbye world video coming soon agar aisee hee baatain karta raha
This news about SC and Bhutto is also part of government Formation deal. Pakistanis are so innocent 😂
Ab itnay genius hain toh Zara dates bata do?
ZAB wala reference kab file hua?
Case kab suna shoro hua?
Elections kab huay?
PDM 2.0 kab Bani?
@@ThePakistanExperience judges are selected, elected PM is selected, Army chief is selected. ECP chief is selected, interim Gov. is selected. Do I need to say more ?
You’ve actually said nothing, I asked you specific questions
Also, I like you bro, your interview with Bilawal was awesome. I’m just wondering why to waste energy on discussing election ? Outside Pakistan We all know it’s 100% fixed. I mean discussion won’t achieve anything, all discussions are for external audience. Even Mahrang baloch couldn’t do nothing after long marches, what your talks can achieve ? You see what happened to Imran and his party. Only armed revolt from inside Army against establishment can fix Pakistan. Only if that guy can stay away from power.
@@ThePakistanExperience I know, but I’m actually questioning the premise itself. What if I give you dates and everything you are asking ? Will it change the fact that whole game is rigged . .?
I know you are trying to have structured discussion and say I’m not informed and just saying things for saying because I don’t have proof it’s just speculation, so let me say this, your videos are also speculations based on info from TV and news papers(shall I also waste time in saying media is also under establishment).
47:12 aunti gorment deserved not to be cut short, should have included the entire clip 😊
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Again, trying to paint all political parties with same brush.
If Imran = Nawaz
Awam = jahil
establishment = ok
Yes, it is wrong that establishment meddles because of its own preferences.
However, it is MORE wrong , if establishment meddles because of extension ( vs. if it meddles against corruption).
0:32 muje laga aap kahen ge 24 ke election ki jab bhi baat krein ge tu us se pehle 18 ke election ki baat hogi
That's why they are saying k dono apny form 45 lain aen. And jis ka fraud ho to usko daal dain andr 30:42
Thank You Islam.
Bilkul sahe kaha her bat pti wali apko hazam nhe hoti. Well said
What about rigging in karachi against JI??
Karachi mai toh Samjho election hua hee nahee
You should invite a PTI spokesperson to formulate a strong argument on the rigging matter
He hates PTI. That's my analysis.
Definitely
Bcz PTI deserves it
I have only one question why you always use the word establishment? Why don't you use the word ARMY? You're not the only one. Each and everyone say establishment in every podcasts. You can say Army + bureaucracy = establishment. But in reality army controls the bureaucrats. So army + army= establishment.
Your podcasts are really good. I never get bored with hour long podcasts. I will be very glad if you please explain the establishment matter.
Because it’s the bureaucracy too, and the judiciary, and the political and financial elite.
Malik Riaz army toh nahee hay par Establishment toh hay
But PTI has uploaded form 45s of 50 NA seats and the leaders clearly deny the claim that they have challenged only 30 seats.
Have you gone through the forms? I show you in the video what these forms look like
Obviously I have gone through many forms and compared it with the ones uploaded by ECP. The ECP has shamefully overwritten on many forms which belong to the original book and at majority of the places they have just uploaded new forms but with the votes of PTI candidate flipped with the votes of noon candidates. This is not a mere co-incidence, I have literally seen that on ever other form uploaded by ECP.
Wesy Shehzad apki khamosh wardaat dalny ki adat nahi jaye gi. Ab jab sabko pata hai Kai behad dhandli hui hai to nukta cheeni ki Kya zrorat hai Kai itno par hui hai itno par nahi. Dhandli hui hai to matlb hui hai.
Dhandlee huee hay toh analyse hee na karayn Kay kya hua?
Kya karay phir?
I literally show you the same over writing in forms posted by PTI. Dono PTI aur ECP Kay forms unreliable hay
@@ThePakistanExperience lol how are pti forms unreliable? They had literally uploaded those forms within a day or two after elections. What do you think? Did they pulled out those out of nowhere and filled them by themselves? Also what makes the PTI forms even more reliable is the fact that both ECP forms and PTI forms have everything same except for the fact that at most places the votes of PTI candidates are givento PMLN candidate and vise versa.
Yar dekho maana 2018 election was not fair but it was quite hilarious cuz this time it was the riggers getting a taste of their own medicine.😂
After Watching this Vlog .Conclusion is Where is the freedom given by Quaid -e-Azam???
Sir i respect your opinion.
But sir PTI won almost all the seats of karachi and Rawalpindi division and multan city
Agar sirf ye seats bhi milayein gayein na
To
20+15+6=40+
Civilian governments puppets for the military establishment and the military will never relinguish power unless there is a revolution which ain't happening anytime soon
29:50 my god how do even manage to read this. Like digitise the elction system already.😂
Mujhe to koi umeed nazar nahi aayi 2024 k results me ....2018 ka election motive of establishment was achieved and here 2024 target of establishment also got achieved...whats difference
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Great insight on the finding common grounds.
But also trying to understand what new thinking can PLMN and PPP bring to the table, when they only promoting family members to the top positions?
Why Gohar Ayub should be help responsible for General Ayub's wrongs?
Come on, man. You can do better than that.
PTI is trying to put together an organization, when establishment is bent on destroying it. So, normal rules of finding the right person do not apply anymore.
Would PTI not have formed the national government, if given the opportunity. Seriously, how can you say that?
Lastly, will citizens accept more financial hardships if they came from IK or SS? Who are they willing to trust?
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@@ThePakistanExperience I would be careful with making such an off-the-cuff remark. Or respond with some poll numbers. I didn't take a poll either, but randomly talked to people in the street and they think otherwise.
Hal Serf EU Passport Hai. ♥
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Umar Ayub sy pehly ap ye demand kyo nai krty rhy ky Bhuttoooss bhi phr a ky keh dy ky humary baroo ko Field Marshal Ayub ny launch nai kia... Or agr kia tu ham lnaaat bhyjtyy hy aysi launching ot