Every time Sajam says "you've gotta jump at Guile" it reminds me of that bell curve meme. On the low end you've got the beginner going like "oh man, this character is throwing fireballs at me, I should jump over them." And in the middle there's the crying dude saying "No! You fool! You can't jump at Guile, he will simply kill you with flash kick!" And on the top end is the dude in the hood saying "you have to jump at Guile."
@@happycamperds9917don't play guile but when I play against him, if they see you turtling a lot of them like to set up sonic cross and approach you from behind it
@@happycamperds9917 you can’t turtle against a zoner if the goal of the game is to either kill the other guy or end the round with more health than them dude. The goal isn’t “spend 90 seconds without dying”. If you turtle and the zoner gets impatient and goes into a disadvantageous position then he’s bad at that type of character, and if you turtle and he DOESNT do that then you are just losing because there’s no way for you to damage them, you can’t win fireball wars against zoners unless you’re dee jay or another zoner. Either walk them down with movement options that evade fireballs/using parries until you get to a range you can actually force them to do things other than flash kick/sonic boom or use some projectile invincible punish. It’s easier said than done but saying “just parry at full screen until you just sort of win” isn’t really a game plan. Even in that situation both the zoners in the game DO have setups to keep themselves safe while they mix you up if you don’t approach because guile has some long range buttons and his sonic cross to pressure you if you’re passive and jp has low/overhead/grab projectiles that he can mix up with his spike, so you WILL end the round with less health. So yeah you’re stupid. Play to your character’s strengths. Get in their guts with your tools if you’re rush down or a grappler, be fundamentally better with spacing and poke/hit confirms if you’re a mid ranged character, and stay as far as you can while pressuring safely if you’re a zoner.
Poor Idom had to travel all the way to South Africa, had 400 rescheduled flights, a maximum of 20 minutes of sleep, and then had to fight Lily first round.
Evil NL by like: Plays fighting game, has hair(is a hair expert), is South Korean (intern at Canada to teach kids how to get rocked in fighting games).
“As soon as you block some shit when you’re near the corner in burnout you should just mash some super that’s where I’m at in life” realest thing ever said
For years I thought the Birds were just the same guy whenever I saw them on Twitter or in tournaments. Imagine the shock in seeing that Ken vs Marisa matchup.
Interesting, during the Akainu vs Oil King match when Sajam pauses to explain that Akainu's recovering drive gauge is at a pixel, Oil King actually gets his CA because of the grey health lost from counter DI. And once it's done his HP goes back into the blue, I didn't know you could get CA from grey life missing, then 'exit' the critical health %. Cool interaction, can't wait to see it be the reason a combo kills in the future lol
Timestamps are spoilers! Timestamp your favorite highlights below - these are just match starts + all the character swaps I remember. . . . 0:21 Idom (Manon) vs Problem X (Lily) 11:11 NL (Cammy) vs Kakeru (JP) 25:55 Zhen (JP) vs Bonchan (Luke) 50:55 Angry Bird (Ken) vs Big Bird (Marisa) 1:13:25 Mono (Dee Jay) vs Mister Crimson (Dhalsim) 1:32:35 Akainu (Guile) vs Leffen (JP) 1:42:50 Oil King (Chun) vs Gachikun (Manon) 1:54:00 Tokido (Ken) vs Jabhim (Chun) 2:12:27 Problem X (Lily) vs Kakeru (JP) 2:23:12 Zhen (JP) vs Big Bird (Marisa) 2:35:24 Akainu (Guile) vs Mono (Dee Jay) 2:51:00 Oil King (Manon) vs Jabhim (Lily, Chun) 3:06:15 Kakeru (JP) vs Big Bird (Marisa) 3:19:50 Akainu (Guile) vs Oil King (Manon, Chun) 3:37:55 Big Bird (Marisa) vs Akainu (Guile)
The first 15 seconds is how I feel in South Africa every time there's a tournament in America or Japan. Most events always run into the next morning for us.😂
Big Bird's Marisa color reminds me of classic Millia and the thought of Marisa flipping through the air mixing you twice an interaction is both hilarious and terrifying
You know who the scrubs in twitch chat are when say something like "Just do X" or "I would've DP'd" or "Should've done X" every time a pro player doesn't punish something.
2:28:20 I play Marisa (at a very low level) and I can very consistently stomp on people's head as they wake up like 4 or 5 times in a row. I've seen someone parry it like once ever.
People in chat trying to complain about biased commentators are so funny. You want your commentators to care about the match, the players, and the tournament and feel invested for that hype factor; that means sometimes they have favorites. As long as they're still covering the match and talking about both players during it, rooting for a player along the way is not a bad thing. Stop looking for an excuse to randomly hate on commentators in every tournament match you watch, and just enjoy the freaking gameplay.
I looking forward to hearing what Sajam had to say about the Problem X/Kakeru match, but I guess there's not enough Lily stuff at a high level to be able to really know what she should do against JP. The set was a beatdown, it might be ideal for Problem to see if there's another character he can pick up for that matchup.
He stuck with Lily a few days later taking down ISDD's Guile then two strong JP'S before falling to Mr Crimson in the finals. He's making people believe it was one tough matchup too many in the end.
I think leaving the face cam on during matches works better. It makes seeing the matches a second time around feel more hyped when SEEING someone getting hyped over them. Of course it’s only a suggestion ✌️
So I figured this is as good a way as any to ask, is there any good advice other than "get good" to go from a more cancel based game like Strive to a game that requires more links? I find myself dropping links so much more than cancels for some reason.
Plinking, where you double tap your buttons with two fingers, is a habit I picked up in SF4 that’s helped me quite a bit with links. The only issue I’ve found is if the button is part of a target combo.
Start treating combos more like a rhythm minigame, and generally just remember that practicing better patience and timing will dramatically help not just in combos, but in all aspects of play in a more neutral based game like Street Fighter.
@@Mx_SneezyPlinking is when you press two different buttons of descending strength (heavy then medium for example) quick enough to make the game interpret it as pressing one button (heavy punch in this example) on two consecutive frames. It was to help with one frame links which don't really exist in SF6 and the technique doesn't really help with looser links like what SF5 and 6 have. Pressing the same button twice very quickly is not a plink.
There are two control schemes in this game, modern, which is kinda like smash, all supers are just directional input+ a super button, plus there is combo assists, the downside is you get less normals and a damage reduction. Classic is how street fighter usually works, with motion inputs and no combo assists. Contrary to popular belief, both seem to be competitively viabile, as despite the damage reduction, modern modes one button inputs let you react to stuff classic players physically could not
I really enjoy these analysis videos, because I haven't been able to play nearly as much as I would've liked and I'm still learning a bunch of stuff like what to punish (or lab) and what is safe. Just watching the tournament without that information wouldn't be nearly as useful to me, other than maybe seeing a new combo and trying it out. I wanna jump on now and try to continue my 12-win streak into Gold and beyond.
no one knows how to play marisa better than angry bird, and bigbird beat angrybird! he's so good! I look forward to watching the matchup specific knowledge evolve, what a great game.
@ 1:39:15 NOW would someone like to explain to Red Bull that Street Fighter and Smash are NOT the same type of game. Just because you call an Edsel a SptiFire doesn't mean it can actually *fly.* :3
Not exactly sure where this is coming from in the first place, but you do know that Leffen has been playing more than just Smash for years, right? He was a very strong competitor in DBFZ, for example.
ya as manon player I pretty much gave up any meaty wake up attack that I cant cancel into drive impact. I like to bait the drive impact with heavy punch into super cancel so they think they can di but rip they die most people see the heavy attack and lizard brain go DI. "related to 2:30min into video".
Red Bull Kumite, if you see this, can you do me a favor? Can you simplify the overlay so it doesn't border the health bars? I think it looks gross when the characters are over the gauges but under the border. But it's probably just my OCD.
I love when lily players say that shes bad while being plus in your face twerking on you making you fight for your life every second. Really just sfv bison players fr
Lily and Jamie are considered weak right now because they need to give up oki to power up. Lily has to spend resources (drive or wind) to stay plus just like everyone else.
@@malcovich_games brainless take. Also Jamie doesn't, he powers up off his rekka too. He just has the OPTION of giving up oki to power up. Also Honda has to give up oki for resources and no one would have the gall to call him low tier
@@mattb6616 Thank you for the very... passionate remark about my comment. Honda doesn't need mandate of heaven to keep up pressure, it just extends combos. He is the one with the OPTION of powering up at the exchange of Oki, meanwhile... Jamie has to drink twice before he's a "normal" character, otherwise he has gimped damage. BTW, Jamie kick rekka definitely loses oki outside the corner.
@@malcovich_games fwiw Jamie's sweep target combo into drink is plus on wakeup, so you can get drinks and still oki (although probably only in the corner) As a Jamie main, I'm really not sure I buy the "he needs two drinks to be normal", imo he's top tier at that point as his damage and Oki with Lk bakkai is fantastic. He's really only "bad" at zero drinks, and getting 1-2 drinks requires at most two hits against the entire cast, not to mention the characters who have to rush you down to prevent instant 4 drinks
Fighting for windstocks against the drive rush gorillas is very tough. Ken doesn't need to work for this plus frames and can convert off way more of his buttons.
SF6 Dhalsim is actually a cool and complex keep away zoner but why his combos have zero sauce. Give Dhalsim a launcher than can only be done point blank
I feel like Dhalsim beats Deejay. If you play gorunded then Dejay wins, but any air options then dhalsim immediately wins because of his options with drill, float, long reaching air normals, fireball and his drive gauge chip potential. Feel like Crimson did well and should have won against mono but he kept going in
Every time Sajam says "you've gotta jump at Guile" it reminds me of that bell curve meme.
On the low end you've got the beginner going like "oh man, this character is throwing fireballs at me, I should jump over them."
And in the middle there's the crying dude saying "No! You fool! You can't jump at Guile, he will simply kill you with flash kick!"
And on the top end is the dude in the hood saying "you have to jump at Guile."
Tbh turtling might be the best thing vs Guile. Maybe I'm stupid but he doesn't seem to have many answers to you just parrying his booms.
@@happycamperds9917don't play guile but when I play against him, if they see you turtling a lot of them like to set up sonic cross and approach you from behind it
@@happycamperds9917 you can’t turtle against a zoner if the goal of the game is to either kill the other guy or end the round with more health than them dude. The goal isn’t “spend 90 seconds without dying”. If you turtle and the zoner gets impatient and goes into a disadvantageous position then he’s bad at that type of character, and if you turtle and he DOESNT do that then you are just losing because there’s no way for you to damage them, you can’t win fireball wars against zoners unless you’re dee jay or another zoner.
Either walk them down with movement options that evade fireballs/using parries until you get to a range you can actually force them to do things other than flash kick/sonic boom or use some projectile invincible punish. It’s easier said than done but saying “just parry at full screen until you just sort of win” isn’t really a game plan. Even in that situation both the zoners in the game DO have setups to keep themselves safe while they mix you up if you don’t approach because guile has some long range buttons and his sonic cross to pressure you if you’re passive and jp has low/overhead/grab projectiles that he can mix up with his spike, so you WILL end the round with less health.
So yeah you’re stupid. Play to your character’s strengths. Get in their guts with your tools if you’re rush down or a grappler, be fundamentally better with spacing and poke/hit confirms if you’re a mid ranged character, and stay as far as you can while pressuring safely if you’re a zoner.
So true fam
@@meethepie That's kinda the point though. He's encouraged to go in. Even if there's a shield in front of him.
Poor Idom had to travel all the way to South Africa, had 400 rescheduled flights, a maximum of 20 minutes of sleep, and then had to fight Lily first round.
Timezones are so redonkulisly apart that he was probably jetlagged to shit too.
W pfp
@@-Azure.EXE-oh yeah no shot he’s not exhausted
He's no Arslan Ash alright
The Sun was in his eyes also. He got obliterated, no excuses.
I go over the official Red Bull video and the FIRST comment i see is "Watching Leffen get 5-0'd was great" 😂🤣
I am proud of my country for hosting the first international SF6 comp and it was out of this world. GG's to all the players.
Whatever
Represent much love
@@tinyt.w.i.m7291 sure. right.
Thanks! It was a great tournament! Red Bull Kumite never disappoints! :D
@@malcolmjelani3588damn dude you're miserable, learn to lighten up lmao
Evil NL by like: Plays fighting game, has hair(is a hair expert), is South Korean (intern at Canada to teach kids how to get rocked in fighting games).
Like, Northernlion??
Lmao
Pegged out of my gourd
I have no goddamn idea why there's an Egg reference here, but I'm excited to find out.
+2
“As soon as you block some shit when you’re near the corner in burnout you should just mash some super that’s where I’m at in life” realest thing ever said
For years I thought the Birds were just the same guy whenever I saw them on Twitter or in tournaments. Imagine the shock in seeing that Ken vs Marisa matchup.
It was actually so dope seeing some local folks doing some hosting stuff and getting to watch it in my timezone. Just glad the power didn't die 😅
Interesting, during the Akainu vs Oil King match when Sajam pauses to explain that Akainu's recovering drive gauge is at a pixel, Oil King actually gets his CA because of the grey health lost from counter DI. And once it's done his HP goes back into the blue, I didn't know you could get CA from grey life missing, then 'exit' the critical health %. Cool interaction, can't wait to see it be the reason a combo kills in the future lol
Timestamps are spoilers! Timestamp your favorite highlights below - these are just match starts + all the character swaps I remember.
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0:21 Idom (Manon) vs Problem X (Lily)
11:11 NL (Cammy) vs Kakeru (JP)
25:55 Zhen (JP) vs Bonchan (Luke)
50:55 Angry Bird (Ken) vs Big Bird (Marisa)
1:13:25 Mono (Dee Jay) vs Mister Crimson (Dhalsim)
1:32:35 Akainu (Guile) vs Leffen (JP)
1:42:50 Oil King (Chun) vs Gachikun (Manon)
1:54:00 Tokido (Ken) vs Jabhim (Chun)
2:12:27 Problem X (Lily) vs Kakeru (JP)
2:23:12 Zhen (JP) vs Big Bird (Marisa)
2:35:24 Akainu (Guile) vs Mono (Dee Jay)
2:51:00 Oil King (Manon) vs Jabhim (Lily, Chun)
3:06:15 Kakeru (JP) vs Big Bird (Marisa)
3:19:50 Akainu (Guile) vs Oil King (Manon, Chun)
3:37:55 Big Bird (Marisa) vs Akainu (Guile)
The first 15 seconds is how I feel in South Africa every time there's a tournament in America or Japan.
Most events always run into the next morning for us.😂
Brother:')
Lol it's brutal dude
The fact that Leffen got beat so bad gives me seratonin
Trueeee
He's arrogant
My favorite thing about fighting games is watching leffen lose
For “one of the greatest of all time” he cant play neutral for shit.
Was so happy with Jabhim's win, especially as an African (typical twitch chat saying tokido would smoke him blah blah) I was so damn PROUD!
Bro listens to twitch chat
@@TypicalBlakk never said I agreed with them did I
Big Bird's Marisa color reminds me of classic Millia and the thought of Marisa flipping through the air mixing you twice an interaction is both hilarious and terrifying
You know who the scrubs in twitch chat are when say something like "Just do X" or "I would've DP'd" or "Should've done X" every time a pro player doesn't punish something.
Twitch chat be like: “Idom should just not have had travel issues”, haha.
That first oil king match has to be my favorite set of sf6 so far, he just didn’t let off of gas once the entire set and it was so fun to watch
idom (mannon): doing DR Reversal most of the times: i dont want you near me!!
problem x (lily): yeah, right? THE I R O N Y
2:28:20 I play Marisa (at a very low level) and I can very consistently stomp on people's head as they wake up like 4 or 5 times in a row. I've seen someone parry it like once ever.
2:47:55 If guile throws sonic blade...
I was so excited to hear what the problem was
The problem, was X
jk
You love to see Leffen get 5-0’d round 1
People in chat trying to complain about biased commentators are so funny. You want your commentators to care about the match, the players, and the tournament and feel invested for that hype factor; that means sometimes they have favorites. As long as they're still covering the match and talking about both players during it, rooting for a player along the way is not a bad thing. Stop looking for an excuse to randomly hate on commentators in every tournament match you watch, and just enjoy the freaking gameplay.
Watching long sets for a tournament is pretty interesting.
i just simply love how u disect the plays! When sajam drops knowledge u listen :-))
I looking forward to hearing what Sajam had to say about the Problem X/Kakeru match, but I guess there's not enough Lily stuff at a high level to be able to really know what she should do against JP. The set was a beatdown, it might be ideal for Problem to see if there's another character he can pick up for that matchup.
He stuck with Lily a few days later taking down ISDD's Guile then two strong JP'S before falling to Mr Crimson in the finals. He's making people believe it was one tough matchup too many in the end.
I think leaving the face cam on during matches works better. It makes seeing the matches a second time around feel more hyped when SEEING someone getting hyped over them. Of course it’s only a suggestion ✌️
The grappler stockofff
Nice seeing Manon and Lily
poor idom
but LILY HAWK! LILY HAWK! LILY HAWK!
15:03 lmao "what in the bluddy 'al are you plotting??"
29:40 man, Luke's such a dud
1:28:03 Nice pause. Looks like the curry finally got to poor Dee Jay. Happens to the best of us.
With a stock she can be +8 after heavy grab anyway with ex spire, so her command grab is perfect for gaining stocks or offense.
So I figured this is as good a way as any to ask, is there any good advice other than "get good" to go from a more cancel based game like Strive to a game that requires more links? I find myself dropping links so much more than cancels for some reason.
Plinking, where you double tap your buttons with two fingers, is a habit I picked up in SF4 that’s helped me quite a bit with links. The only issue I’ve found is if the button is part of a target combo.
I like to count out loud when doing a combo, kinda like following a rhythm
Start treating combos more like a rhythm minigame, and generally just remember that practicing better patience and timing will dramatically help not just in combos, but in all aspects of play in a more neutral based game like Street Fighter.
@@Mx_SneezyPlinking is when you press two different buttons of descending strength (heavy then medium for example) quick enough to make the game interpret it as pressing one button (heavy punch in this example) on two consecutive frames. It was to help with one frame links which don't really exist in SF6 and the technique doesn't really help with looser links like what SF5 and 6 have.
Pressing the same button twice very quickly is not a plink.
1:22:00 Sajam is so unimpressed by these 3 perfect parries in a row.
That was a sick tournament. I would have loved to see an all birds final; Angry Bird looked like the 2nd best player in this tournament.
Pretty sure my dog used to play Lili frfr, does he count
Kakeru with the jp sauce ❤
can someone please explain what "modern" means? Like when sajam says "modern and classic luke" or "modern" marissa.
There are two control schemes in this game, modern, which is kinda like smash, all supers are just directional input+ a super button, plus there is combo assists, the downside is you get less normals and a damage reduction. Classic is how street fighter usually works, with motion inputs and no combo assists. Contrary to popular belief, both seem to be competitively viabile, as despite the damage reduction, modern modes one button inputs let you react to stuff classic players physically could not
ah okay thank you
man we had fun here in South Africa. it was one of the best tournament we've ever had.more is still to come
I really enjoy these analysis videos, because I haven't been able to play nearly as much as I would've liked and I'm still learning a bunch of stuff like what to punish (or lab) and what is safe. Just watching the tournament without that information wouldn't be nearly as useful to me, other than maybe seeing a new combo and trying it out. I wanna jump on now and try to continue my 12-win streak into Gold and beyond.
no one knows how to play marisa better than angry bird, and bigbird beat angrybird! he's so good! I look forward to watching the matchup specific knowledge evolve, what a great game.
3:41:05
The highlight of the watch-a-long. XD
2:02:33 EX Fireball -2 is a huge change... you're spending resources and losing the advantage.
@ 1:39:15 NOW would someone like to explain to Red Bull that Street Fighter and Smash are NOT the same type of game. Just because you call an Edsel a SptiFire doesn't mean it can actually *fly.* :3
Not exactly sure where this is coming from in the first place, but you do know that Leffen has been playing more than just Smash for years, right? He was a very strong competitor in DBFZ, for example.
Wow. DBFZ you say? Is he a Happy Slapps and DDR master *too?* o.o
xD@@Bone8380
Shout out from South Africa ❤ (hella late but still)
WELP, happy I saw Manon gameplay even if both of them got twerked on hahaha
Yeah, Jabhim is a really strong player, but it was just too early to call it an upset.
If this is Ken then I’m a little scared for the Akumer on the horizon..
ya as manon player I pretty much gave up any meaty wake up attack that I cant cancel into drive impact. I like to bait the drive impact with heavy punch into super cancel so they think they can di but rip they die most people see the heavy attack and lizard brain go DI. "related to 2:30min into video".
Sajam being biased for Big bird when I'm rooting for Angry bird 😢
Red Bull Kumite, if you see this, can you do me a favor? Can you simplify the overlay so it doesn't border the health bars? I think it looks gross when the characters are over the gauges but under the border. But it's probably just my OCD.
1:33:47 Nice
I love when lily players say that shes bad while being plus in your face twerking on you making you fight for your life every second. Really just sfv bison players fr
Lily and Jamie are considered weak right now because they need to give up oki to power up. Lily has to spend resources (drive or wind) to stay plus just like everyone else.
@@malcovich_games brainless take. Also Jamie doesn't, he powers up off his rekka too. He just has the OPTION of giving up oki to power up.
Also Honda has to give up oki for resources and no one would have the gall to call him low tier
@@mattb6616 Thank you for the very... passionate remark about my comment.
Honda doesn't need mandate of heaven to keep up pressure, it just extends combos. He is the one with the OPTION of powering up at the exchange of Oki, meanwhile...
Jamie has to drink twice before he's a "normal" character, otherwise he has gimped damage. BTW, Jamie kick rekka definitely loses oki outside the corner.
@@malcovich_games fwiw Jamie's sweep target combo into drink is plus on wakeup, so you can get drinks and still oki (although probably only in the corner)
As a Jamie main, I'm really not sure I buy the "he needs two drinks to be normal", imo he's top tier at that point as his damage and Oki with Lk bakkai is fantastic. He's really only "bad" at zero drinks, and getting 1-2 drinks requires at most two hits against the entire cast, not to mention the characters who have to rush you down to prevent instant 4 drinks
Fighting for windstocks against the drive rush gorillas is very tough. Ken doesn't need to work for this plus frames and can convert off way more of his buttons.
SF6 Dhalsim is actually a cool and complex keep away zoner but why his combos have zero sauce. Give Dhalsim a launcher than can only be done point blank
This Lily match is making Monon look bottom tier lmfao
Idom wrote off Lily big mistake.
Kakeru is the only jp I got serious respect for
Kakeru's JP is disgusting to watch.
Lefreen
I'm 100% stealing that Luke back HP off DR tech, sick stuff
I love these videos
fantastic coverage of the event
one minor gripe tho; that sub sound gets kinda annoying after hearing it the hundredth time within 5 minutes
It's all part of the streaming program. Entice and acknowledge your subs , to stay afloat.
@@malcovich_games you can set up multiple sub sounds so it doesnt get so repetitive
@@Lore_from_Stars There's already three, depending on sub tier. Also it costs $$$ to get rando, Sajam's a poor guy who's just starting out. /s
It's a bid fight bird world
39:00
Leff wasn't feeling very big this tournament, but to make up for it, he went straight from being 5-0ed to winning LACS5.
crash team rumble
I feel like Dhalsim beats Deejay. If you play gorunded then Dejay wins, but any air options then dhalsim immediately wins because of his options with drill, float, long reaching air normals, fireball and his drive gauge chip potential. Feel like Crimson did well and should have won against mono but he kept going in
Come on we all know Tokido took the L for the hype
you have so much vocal fry. Every sentence has a vibrating ending