Shame he's the reason we've gotten the worse designs in Destiny's history passed through. I'm so tired of all the post modern art styles in this game. D1 at least had a sci-fi aesthetic that was consistent.
they did say in the twab after that you get a complete build for the subclass in the FIRST mission, so it seems the narrative will be the focus of the actual campaign, with the subclass being more like Taken King, like a side thing you work on throughout
I feel one of the greatest benefits of the new faction is that The Witness raid is actually gonna be populated by ITS own faction, imagine how underwhelming that would've been before having the raid of our greatest threat just be populated by scorn or something
Also I think they said we get Prismatic unlocked after the first mission, which makes sense I doubt they'd rewrite their entire campaign to turn it into a tutorial for a subclass they didn't even have planned
I like that we’re getting new enemies, but I’m a bit skeptical of how they’re going to be implemented into the greater context of the game past this expansion. If it’s just the “Witness faction”, is it going to have any story relevance past this expansion where the witness dies? Is the faction going to have any major characters like Calus for the cabal or Fikrul for the scorn? I would be surprised if it did.
wow it took the entire company almost collapsing and getting the least amount of pre-orders they've gotten so far for them to actually put effort and imagination into new content.
Anyone that thinks they threw together all this during the delay is extremely dumb. We were always getting this, they just chose to hide it during the initial showcase, they said it themselves. They wanted the reveal of the Dread and Prismatic to be a surprise. The problem is with how they went about it, they gave us nothing to be excited for so Pre Orders were hurt badly by this.
@@sea4524 The Scorn at least can be considered a unique enemy faction because they have wildly different gameplay mechanics compared to the Fallen despite lore-wise being just reskinned Fallen. But still, the fact that the last time we got a new enemy faction with genuinely unique mechanics was *6 years ago* is really saddening.
They said that you'll get the prismatic subclass from the first mission and can keep it from then on. You'll get a few starting abilities but have to unlock them through events and secrets. No grinding materials and fragments are unlocked for every class when you first receive them. Overall, a great change and no campaign that is solely about getting prismatic.
Definitely. I think D2 is gonna go into back-burner mode after Final Shape with these new "episodes" while bungie works on D3 and Marathon so Sony are satisfied with their live service output. Nothing would please Sony more than a new, full priced release.
In an article Bungie posted, they showed that Prismatic will only have certain subclass abilities present, with one ability in each slot from each subclass. If you want to run Well of Radiance or Icarus Dash for example, you have to be on Solar, not Prismatic. It also seems like building into one element will likely be the most powerful with the right build, but Prismatic is more of an experimental/fun subclass that's useable in the vast majority of content instead of completely power creeping the game. The Exotic class items also look like they have nerfed perks, so one example I saw was that the perk with the Exotic functionality of Ophidian Aspect only boosts your reload speed, whereas the actual Ophidian Aspect Exotic boosts your reload speed, your handling, and your airborne effectiveness. Prismatic will also be automatically unlocked near the beginning of the campaign, and all additional upgrades are found on the new destination as collectibles or are dropped from completing certain campaign missions, so it doesn't seem like the entire campaign will revolve around the subclass the same way Lightfall and Beyond Light were.
My guess is that they had a new enemy race from the beginning, but wanted to save it for a surprise during the campaign. But due to the terrible pre-order sales and other bad press, they had to just reveal everything, the new stuff and stuff already developed
Yeah, I had to pause when he said "I wish, just once, they could have you experience something in game," when minutes earlier he was complaining about how underwhelming the first stream was.
In the campaign, the first mission unlocks the entire usable class for you. Getting more fragments and aspects comes from doing exploration in the world and doesnt use a reputational currency like strand and stasis, much akin to traditional RPGs or ARPGs like Soulslikes where you find a chest with a new unique weapon, spell, or skill to add to your repertoire. Once you unlock the fragments, you dont need to unlock them across different characters (LOOKING AT YOU STRAND)
They did yesterday confirm we get it at the start if the first mission, aspects, fragments supers all of it. And can unlock extras throughout the campaign, and some post campaign. Any fragments earned on one character WILL BE AVAILABLE ON ALL CHARACTERS
What this tells us is prismatic was never intended to be on Final Shape. It was never in Bungie's narrative vision. It's just some idea that came up that everyone jumped on. Imagine how much brainstorming could help this game
It's more likely they had some version on this in the works in August of last year, though probably not for TFS like you said, however the pre order exotic weapon cycles through all of the subclass colors including Prismatic Pink, to me that implies you will be able to load the Transcendent grenade into the weapon, but it is Bungie 😵💫
“So how will they explain the Witness Enemies in the Lore?” Pretty easily actually, as they have already built towards the Witness and the Disciples evolving and mutating the species it’s indoctrinated. The Tormentors and Subjugators are ancient species we don’t know, while the Bladed guys are definitely mutated Hive. I like how some of them are so different you can’t actually tell what they used to be.
the question im asking is if there are limitations what will they feel in the gameplay. by this insight they show oher and over the same combinations. Now is it because they dont want to show more or is it realy that limited ?...i guess we'll see
To answer your question about the new supers, ya they will still be a thing, as you can see hunter doing the new arc super in the first gameplay demonstration.
4:20 the UI will be updated in TFS along with more QOL stuff, specifically buffs/debuffs will be better positioned & critical information will be below the health bar & weapon buffs will be above the super bar, overall a good change, it allows things to not all be on 1 side & having buffs/debuffs randomly cycled out. Certain buffs/debuffs will also be prioritized over others
I legit thought after 10 years of mystery and theory, and 4 years of Witness edging, we weren’t getting any new enemies outside of reskins. I’m glad theyre expanding on the Tormentors and whatnot.
As someone else has probably already said but a TWAB was posted a day after the reveal stream detailing much more about Prismatic. Prismatic will be much more restrictive than you think. It's a curated selection of 1 ability from each subclass for each slot to choose from. So to give an example for aspects Warlocks get Feed the Void (Void) Bleak Watcher (Stasis) Weaver's Call (Strand) Hellion (Solar) and Lightning Surge (Arc) to choose from. You can't pick Arc Soul or Icarus Dash because a different aspect was picked to "represent" that subclass. Same goes for Supers and grenades and etc. (the new aspects and super introduced for each class have been prioritized for Prismatic) again to give another example only Prismatic Hunter will have access to Grapple Grenade. Personally, I think they did a very good job with it. Its limited nature makes sure the balance stays within reason, allowing the other subclasses to still have their use but all the while not too limiting to still allow for lots of really fun and unique build crafting opportunities with the changes they made to the fragments and aspects. Again to give an example for Titan they picked Diamond Lance for their Stasis aspect and to allow Diamond Lance to be more readily available any ability kill regardless of damage type procks Diamond Lance.
Prismatic and the Exotic class items feel a lot like a testing ground for making a Destiny 3 with no classes or subclasses, just different abilities you can slot in. Since even Prismatic has its own restrictions right now because it's built in a system where classes are still a core part of the game. But then the class items letting you use exotic traits from other classes feels like that dissolving the class system is their end goal at some point.
I noticed that the flying guys never seemed to be much higher than just a bit off of whatever surface they are over, making me afraid that they will just act like the skimmers from Halo Infinite rather than proper flying enemies like the drones from earlier Halo titles.
If they did what you described harder level difficulty involving them would be unbearable. Imagine doing a GM and while you're being rushed by ads and Champs you have these things that can slow and jam your abilities flying around in the sky.
@@nullandvoid7524 Easy solution: Don't overcomplicate enemy mechanics and shift the special attack to a different enemy or a new one and allow for the flying to be an actual unique mechanic for the enemy instead of reskinned walking. I say this because skimmers in halo infinite are a massive disappointment, especially due to the lack of drones, as they are literally just effectively tall grunts.
From what I have found out prismatic will be a jack of all trades master of none type class there will be supers and fragments you are locked out of making solo subclassing favorable for certain activities like warlock will have to do pure solar if they are gonna run well
Try to keep in mind that Bungie leadership is to blame for all their problems, not the devs. When the devs are not constantly restricted and restrained we get stuff like this.
I don’t think that this was made in such short time. My guess is either wasn’t ready to show at the initial reveal, or more likely they wanted to be a surprise for later
It's kinda strange that there wasn't even a single mention of "Episodes" dunno if it's because they really focused 100% on TFS or if something perhaps changed. Combined with that oddly specific comment Luke made at the very beginning about d2 and destiny as a whole as well.
Because this is the final shape gameplay showcase… not a showcase about the future of destiny. It’s not even a story showcase so of course they aren’t going to show anything about the episodes.
Hey man I’ve been watching your vids for years and I just wanna be here and let you know you’re genuinely one of the realest creators out there in terms of putting your opinion and honesty out there, and it honestly saddens me that it’s hard for me to find content from you. One thing that reassures me though is that you, one of my favorite creators for media reviews, covers one of my all time favorite games. I can tell this is one of your fav franchises as well, just wish I could find more of you tho cause that’s what I’m here for.
I haven't played Destiny since the first one launched on the 360 back in the day but i keep up with it via YOU, but these enemies look really sweet. I hope this is a rare W for Bungie
A lot of people are speculating this will be the last proper d2 dlc. The complete and utter power creep seems impossible to balance so they’re just saying “fuck it”. Honestly I have no idea how a destiny 3 could work because there’s so much bloat in destiny 2 if we lose it all everyone will get upset, but if we keep most of the stuff going into destiny 3 what’s the point of the game? I just think it’s funny that it finally took 10 years to get a completely new faction. It seems to me that the bungie higher ups that people complain about honestly thought having the same 4 factions since destiny launched would be fine. I know the scorn and taken exist but they really aren’t different. They follow the basic faction design of a small enemy, an exploding enemy, a middle health enemy, a slightly tanker enemy and maybe a large hard to kill enemy.
Prismatic looks fun but CAN NOT be allowed to enter PvP. The Dread are really cool although 2 of the 4 new enemies seem to just be just remixes of old enemies
@@dickthehead1145 the weavers and attendants are stated to be darkness infused psions. And the husks to me look like stealth ravagers but without the stealth
Literally not even 2 months ago were people bitching and moaning about the d2 devs being fired and how they refuse to buy final shape out of how disgraceful the bungie execs are. Yet it only took em 1 shitty reveal stream to forget about everything bungie has done in the past decade. The cycle once again begins anew
@@panzershreck8077 yep lol. goes to show everyone's a hypocrite. it's all bullshit and bungie is full of it just as much as the people who play their games.
End game asset reuse is just saying fuck it to balance. I think destiny is over after this, there is no way you can balance this with more content. Imagine trying to take this level of control away from players? This is a desperate move tbh looks cool tho
i believe these new enemies were intended since TFS first got to the drawing board, hell, maybe even before I could see how bungie saw that they were short on time so they just said "ok, we have this big guy, we announce that one and hope we can finish the rest as a surprise for day 1", then the delay happened and they used that valuable time to finish the new race and announced it on the stream Maybe I'm too optimistic and faithful in Bungie, but i see genuine passion break through the cracks of mediocrity in Destiny, with the devs apparently begging management to do certain things to regain player trust and being denied for a while, i want to believe that they're not giving us all these goodies as a "shut up, be happy and give us money" and more as a "sorry we fucked up, we'll change that" either way, I'm staying for The Final Shape and beyond, because i want to see where they're going to take the history
I'm sure the dread must have been planned since development for the final shape began. I doubt bungie would have been able to suddenly come up with an entirely new faction and add them to the game in 4 months
The blog post they made recently shows the aspects prism can use. Most of them are.....kinda mid but I understand they dont want to make THE CLASS. Like since I cant use icarus dash or heat rises in prism, I'm likely not going to use it in pvp as movement and angles are too important. Edit: Also looking at the class exotics its looking to be diet versions of those exotics as the titan mark says spirit of ophidian: Boosts handling, when the actual ophidians boosts handling AND reload. So again it seems they dont want it to be the best. I low key wish bungie just threw balance out the window and just gave us all our tools, but then this dlc would be mandatory of anyone looking to play. At the same time these blogs have tempered my excitement.
the ironic thing about all of this is that if they just did this from the start as in, include all theres features and shit that people actually wanted, they wouldn't be in the state they are in right now. It just shows how poor and unorganized the leadership at bungie is, the execs micromanage/nickel and dime everything until the game and company is in a horrendous state than finally the devs are given the freedom and budget to actually make the game good. Its absolutely mental that bungie has made it this far with how unsustainable their business practices are.
also im still worried that the new expansion is just gonna reuse previous levels. they literally havent addressed that part since the last reveal they did
I want to be excited to play Destiny again. But I'm far too familiar with this hype cycle. Also, new animations and stuff is cool for the new subclass, but really it isn't changing the gameplay that drastically. And I personally think Destiny needs more depth, a reason to play optimaly, because since the beginning, the only reason to do all these flashy moves and cooldown cycling abilities is just style points. Rarely do you need to play like the trailers show unless you're soloing a dungeon, and even then, the hardest part of soloing content is the dps checks, which is the least skill dependent part of it... I'll stop ranting 😅
It's the same cycle we've seen before. This DLC is likely to be pretty solid, the next one is going to be awful, and after that the next one is going to be meh
I really enjoy your Destiny videos. As a typical Destiny fan who has a love/hate relationship with the game. I logged in shortly after Lance Reddick passed away to join in with people paying their respects - I hadn't played since Shadowkeep. I hung around just because shooting aliens felt cool, but I'd also missed a ton of DLC. I've watched your whole Destiny series today (perks of working from home, eh?) and shared a lot of similar thoughts, even if I may have stuck around more in your down days. I think this video is the first time I've felt hyped about Destiny since The Taken King. I honestly think a lot of people will play it just to get that "ending" that we've been promised. I really hope they deliver, but my expectations are not high, even if I am hyped.
We are already so op it doesn't really matter. Also prismatic only has a handful of skills to pick from so the others are not pointless. My sunbrasers build doesn't work on it
I stopped playing not long after finishing the Lightfall campaign, after getting disgusted by whatever that narrative was, as well as the monetization & management woes from the company. I've really enjoyed my break away from the game, and up until the "Into the Light" reveal content (that I've bothered to look at), and this particular reveal segment, I've been pretty content away from the game. I _might_ return, but only after all the content creators and likewise churn through it to tell me how good/bad it is. I know Bungie's marketing team is good enough at their job to turn a shit stain into the Mona Lisa -- can't trust anything they put out as an advertisement.
I think the new enemies were always planned, whereas the Prismatic Subclass was the stuff they've added with the delay. A subclass isn't something you'd save for a future trailer; an enemy type is, imo. Also, you mentioned the lore aspect of these enemies, Byf has a pretty solid theory on them. These are all past factions that the Witness has reshaped like they did the Tormentors; seen more obviously in the new Psions, whereas the Husk is subtler, but still has the hallmarks of a Hive Acolyte. The Grim are a species we haven't seen, the Subjigators are based on Rhulk, the Tormentors are based on Nezarec.
Nah bc the subclass leak we got back last year that showed a red subclass had other subclass abilities for the grenade and melee. 4 months is not even close to enough time to add a subclass and entire new exotic class item system that synergizes with it
Nothing new was added in the three months, if you ask me, or at least, nothing substantial. I bet all of this was planned, and the three extra months just helped make it so it’s much more polished at this stage than it would’ve been before.
What's funny about the new player on-boarding experience is they have finally decided to just let you... skip it entirely lol like there's a specific mission banner you walk up to that just skips New Light in the cosmodrome now. They did do the right thing and they have new starter kits for free at Ikora that let you choose one of the Light subclasses and get a starter set of the aspects/fragments without having to unlock them as well legendary/exotics and an armor set. Aka they made that terrible New light Starter kit microtransaction that launched with Season of the Wish that they eventually took down free.
Yes those poor poor devs want the best for the players!!! But ughh those damn greedy executives are ruining the game!!! Bro, most senior employees are not working at bungie anymore
The new subclass is only using specific attributes from the the other classes, so there’s still a reason to run the other classes. This is a jack of all trades master of none class.
Unfortunately, Bungie knows their audience too well. While all this stuff looks okay, to me it's still kind of the bare minimum. But to Destiny players, it feels more like an ocean of great things because they've been SO STARVED for anything outside of mediocre. They've starved their fanbase so much that people are cheering for what should be the absolute basics from any other studio. It's crazy and fascinating to watch. Great vid as always Alex, looking forward to your views on this final expansion after it comes out.
Legit. I don't even think the ''the shooting is amazing'' really holds up anymore either. It was more impressive in 2014 but you have so many other options for good feeling shooters now lmao.
As much as people hate bungie. Their business model for not overdelivering is fucking genius. Always keep the expectations low for the playerbase and you will always impress them. You dare try to take off the blind fold from their rabid fanbse tho, they go fucking nuts and can't stop coping about how not shit their game is.
@@omensoffate Because they can't otherwise you get the Forsaken schtick where they spoil the one intereting thing before you'd eventually play up towards it. I've not played this game past mission 1 (or 2) of Forsaken and even if I wanted to I couldn't, so my "Destiny-fix" has been fully through IHE in the sense of watching a nice screensaver covering a trashfire. What I gather from Destiny (Bungie) is that they have been quite adept at making a 'story' all of a single sentience (or scene) long, and if they 'reveal' anything, they give away the "story-mode campaign".
One of the only reasons why i think it isn't (all) of them is that it would then be like well why would you use the og wehn you can edit it for example solar lock one of the only reasons you run solar lock especailly in higher content is for that well every single worlds first ran it only time they didn't is when it wasn't released so i think tis nice they are mix and matching but i feel like its going to be limited to where its just oh 1 build the multi buff exotics do seem cool though however i truly dont feel like this is the end for d2 like most say as i dont feel like bungie would be willing to take that well chance at another game i feel like they are going to just make another story in the game or another chapter i pray its good though as after lightfall bungie is in oh shit mode i just hope they continue this type of shit in the future
"I'm surprised they haven't bragged about the new enemies yet"
*3 seconds later*
"Oh"
I like the art director. Beardman seemed to have fun and like he really enjoys his work. I believe everything he says.
From SFX to Art Director, people like Dave Samuels are awesome
Shame he's the reason we've gotten the worse designs in Destiny's history passed through. I'm so tired of all the post modern art styles in this game. D1 at least had a sci-fi aesthetic that was consistent.
His art sucks tho
Dave has always been passionate and wishing the best for the game
@@PANCAKEMINEZZ *I will not tolerate ANY Dave slander.*
IHE's highest compliment "i could see myself messing around with this for awhile"
they did say in the twab after that you get a complete build for the subclass in the FIRST mission, so it seems the narrative will be the focus of the actual campaign, with the subclass being more like Taken King, like a side thing you work on throughout
*Forsaken
@lazyvoid7107 *taken king
forsaken didn't add a new subclass, first time we got a new one was shadowkeep with stasis
@@JustAJauneArc *Taken King
also Beyond Light launched Stasis, not Shadowkeep
@@SunflowerLotusXII my bad I get the names fucked
@JustAJauneArc its hard not to mix them up since theres about 900 expansions and seasons
I feel one of the greatest benefits of the new faction is that The Witness raid is actually gonna be populated by ITS own faction, imagine how underwhelming that would've been before having the raid of our greatest threat just be populated by scorn or something
Also I think they said we get Prismatic unlocked after the first mission, which makes sense I doubt they'd rewrite their entire campaign to turn it into a tutorial for a subclass they didn't even have planned
It’s probably gonna be a multiple race raid
I like that we’re getting new enemies, but I’m a bit skeptical of how they’re going to be implemented into the greater context of the game past this expansion. If it’s just the “Witness faction”, is it going to have any story relevance past this expansion where the witness dies? Is the faction going to have any major characters like Calus for the cabal or Fikrul for the scorn? I would be surprised if it did.
@@onyonrong9244 I'm not sure if there are anymore disciples but if not then, the witness would be the only major character of the dread
@@onyonrong9244don’t forget nezarec is like 80% gonna come back so there’s that
The no nimbus got me
Where
@@pot6577 18:31
wow it took the entire company almost collapsing and getting the least amount of pre-orders they've gotten so far for them to actually put effort and imagination into new content.
Again. This is like the 4th time
Mixing subclasses is hardly effort and imagination
@@TheAcidicMolotovyou’re freakin kidding right?
Classic lazy Bungie
Anyone that thinks they threw together all this during the delay is extremely dumb. We were always getting this, they just chose to hide it during the initial showcase, they said it themselves. They wanted the reveal of the Dread and Prismatic to be a surprise.
The problem is with how they went about it, they gave us nothing to be excited for so Pre Orders were hurt badly by this.
and ten years later we get ..bats
IHE dong huh?
It's so funny to me that it took them like 10 years to finally introduce new enemies, and it's when the game is at the end of its life.
Fr like I love the taken and scorn and whatnot but they are legit just spicy fallen and emo versions of the regular enemies
It’s the ‘Boyhood’ of games
They’re gonna keep the game going after final shape
They aren’t even new enemies just a different skin.
@@sea4524 The Scorn at least can be considered a unique enemy faction because they have wildly different gameplay mechanics compared to the Fallen despite lore-wise being just reskinned Fallen.
But still, the fact that the last time we got a new enemy faction with genuinely unique mechanics was *6 years ago* is really saddening.
They said that you'll get the prismatic subclass from the first mission and can keep it from then on. You'll get a few starting abilities but have to unlock them through events and secrets. No grinding materials and fragments are unlocked for every class when you first receive them. Overall, a great change and no campaign that is solely about getting prismatic.
Luke Smith gotta be teasing D3
Puke shit back to fomo all over us
Definitely. I think D2 is gonna go into back-burner mode after Final Shape with these new "episodes" while bungie works on D3 and Marathon so Sony are satisfied with their live service output. Nothing would please Sony more than a new, full priced release.
People are really coping here
"Hold on, bro. IHE is talking about Destiny."
"I didn’t know you played Destiny...?"
"I don't."
Make sense he doesn't know crap
@@lazyvoid7107IHE does play Destiny actually; he’s made several full depth videos on it
In an article Bungie posted, they showed that Prismatic will only have certain subclass abilities present, with one ability in each slot from each subclass. If you want to run Well of Radiance or Icarus Dash for example, you have to be on Solar, not Prismatic. It also seems like building into one element will likely be the most powerful with the right build, but Prismatic is more of an experimental/fun subclass that's useable in the vast majority of content instead of completely power creeping the game. The Exotic class items also look like they have nerfed perks, so one example I saw was that the perk with the Exotic functionality of Ophidian Aspect only boosts your reload speed, whereas the actual Ophidian Aspect Exotic boosts your reload speed, your handling, and your airborne effectiveness. Prismatic will also be automatically unlocked near the beginning of the campaign, and all additional upgrades are found on the new destination as collectibles or are dropped from completing certain campaign missions, so it doesn't seem like the entire campaign will revolve around the subclass the same way Lightfall and Beyond Light were.
To add to this, Well of Radiance will also be catching a long-overdue nerf. Thank god.
My guess is that they had a new enemy race from the beginning, but wanted to save it for a surprise during the campaign. But due to the terrible pre-order sales and other bad press, they had to just reveal everything, the new stuff and stuff already developed
Yeah, I had to pause when he said "I wish, just once, they could have you experience something in game," when minutes earlier he was complaining about how underwhelming the first stream was.
@@samspin429you can surprise the players while making an exciting ad(dreaming city)
was in the middle of a JARcast when this dropped… sorry jim and james
In the campaign, the first mission unlocks the entire usable class for you. Getting more fragments and aspects comes from doing exploration in the world and doesnt use a reputational currency like strand and stasis, much akin to traditional RPGs or ARPGs like Soulslikes where you find a chest with a new unique weapon, spell, or skill to add to your repertoire. Once you unlock the fragments, you dont need to unlock them across different characters (LOOKING AT YOU STRAND)
They did yesterday confirm we get it at the start if the first mission, aspects, fragments supers all of it. And can unlock extras throughout the campaign, and some post campaign. Any fragments earned on one character WILL BE AVAILABLE ON ALL CHARACTERS
What this tells us is prismatic was never intended to be on Final Shape. It was never in Bungie's narrative vision. It's just some idea that came up that everyone jumped on. Imagine how much brainstorming could help this game
It's more likely they had some version on this in the works in August of last year, though probably not for TFS like you said, however the pre order exotic weapon cycles through all of the subclass colors including Prismatic Pink, to me that implies you will be able to load the Transcendent grenade into the weapon, but it is Bungie 😵💫
they prolly had it coming down the year amidst episodes
“So how will they explain the Witness Enemies in the Lore?” Pretty easily actually, as they have already built towards the Witness and the Disciples evolving and mutating the species it’s indoctrinated. The Tormentors and Subjugators are ancient species we don’t know, while the Bladed guys are definitely mutated Hive. I like how some of them are so different you can’t actually tell what they used to be.
It shows IHE doesn't know crap
I really enjoy any video you put out. It means something to me. I have been through a lot in my life. Don’t stop.
the question im asking is if there are limitations what will they feel in the gameplay. by this insight they show oher and over the same combinations. Now is it because they dont want to show more or is it realy that limited ?...i guess we'll see
To answer your question about the new supers, ya they will still be a thing, as you can see hunter doing the new arc super in the first gameplay demonstration.
4:20 the UI will be updated in TFS along with more QOL stuff, specifically buffs/debuffs will be better positioned & critical information will be below the health bar & weapon buffs will be above the super bar, overall a good change, it allows things to not all be on 1 side & having buffs/debuffs randomly cycled out. Certain buffs/debuffs will also be prioritized over others
As always I am simply grateful my sunshine IHE has uploaded once again boy oh boy where do I begin
The clown
I legit thought after 10 years of mystery and theory, and 4 years of Witness edging, we weren’t getting any new enemies outside of reskins. I’m glad theyre expanding on the Tormentors and whatnot.
But they are just reskins. Sure they can do different elements are stuff but it’s the same in terms of skeletal structure
@omensoffate
How so?
@@omensoffateFF14 mid
As someone else has probably already said but a TWAB was posted a day after the reveal stream detailing much more about Prismatic. Prismatic will be much more restrictive than you think. It's a curated selection of 1 ability from each subclass for each slot to choose from. So to give an example for aspects Warlocks get Feed the Void (Void) Bleak Watcher (Stasis) Weaver's Call (Strand) Hellion (Solar) and Lightning Surge (Arc) to choose from. You can't pick Arc Soul or Icarus Dash because a different aspect was picked to "represent" that subclass. Same goes for Supers and grenades and etc. (the new aspects and super introduced for each class have been prioritized for Prismatic) again to give another example only Prismatic Hunter will have access to Grapple Grenade. Personally, I think they did a very good job with it. Its limited nature makes sure the balance stays within reason, allowing the other subclasses to still have their use but all the while not too limiting to still allow for lots of really fun and unique build crafting opportunities with the changes they made to the fragments and aspects. Again to give an example for Titan they picked Diamond Lance for their Stasis aspect and to allow Diamond Lance to be more readily available any ability kill regardless of damage type procks Diamond Lance.
IHE doesn't care
Prismatic and the Exotic class items feel a lot like a testing ground for making a Destiny 3 with no classes or subclasses, just different abilities you can slot in. Since even Prismatic has its own restrictions right now because it's built in a system where classes are still a core part of the game. But then the class items letting you use exotic traits from other classes feels like that dissolving the class system is their end goal at some point.
Eyebrow bros were so back
I noticed that the flying guys never seemed to be much higher than just a bit off of whatever surface they are over, making me afraid that they will just act like the skimmers from Halo Infinite rather than proper flying enemies like the drones from earlier Halo titles.
If they did what you described harder level difficulty involving them would be unbearable.
Imagine doing a GM and while you're being rushed by ads and Champs you have these things that can slow and jam your abilities flying around in the sky.
@@nullandvoid7524 Easy solution: Don't overcomplicate enemy mechanics and shift the special attack to a different enemy or a new one and allow for the flying to be an actual unique mechanic for the enemy instead of reskinned walking. I say this because skimmers in halo infinite are a massive disappointment, especially due to the lack of drones, as they are literally just effectively tall grunts.
i was waiting for this video so much.
i love that you do these destiny react videos thanks
He’s back
From what I have found out prismatic will be a jack of all trades master of none type class there will be supers and fragments you are locked out of making solo subclassing favorable for certain activities like warlock will have to do pure solar if they are gonna run well
Try to keep in mind that Bungie leadership is to blame for all their problems, not the devs. When the devs are not constantly restricted and restrained we get stuff like this.
Some developers that wanted to make up for Lightfall and deliver on player feedback were the first to be fired, says a lot about management
IHE won't talk about it because he is a moron
Can’t wait for your review 😁😁
I don’t think that this was made in such short time. My guess is either wasn’t ready to show at the initial reveal, or more likely they wanted to be a surprise for later
It's kinda strange that there wasn't even a single mention of "Episodes" dunno if it's because they really focused 100% on TFS or if something perhaps changed. Combined with that oddly specific comment Luke made at the very beginning about d2 and destiny as a whole as well.
Not really this is about the final shape. Like they said at the start after that they will talk about it
Because this is the final shape gameplay showcase… not a showcase about the future of destiny. It’s not even a story showcase so of course they aren’t going to show anything about the episodes.
wonder what ihe will say abt the new vidoc
Ive BEEN waiting on this!
Cant wait to hear it
I think that the dread, prismatic, exotic class items were always planned but they likely didn't have enough time until it got delayed
Hey man I’ve been watching your vids for years and I just wanna be here and let you know you’re genuinely one of the realest creators out there in terms of putting your opinion and honesty out there, and it honestly saddens me that it’s hard for me to find content from you. One thing that reassures me though is that you, one of my favorite creators for media reviews, covers one of my all time favorite games. I can tell this is one of your fav franchises as well, just wish I could find more of you tho cause that’s what I’m here for.
Moths?
bats.
@@maolchiaran bats with a gun
@@fluke7506 bats with tractor cannon
I haven't played Destiny since the first one launched on the 360 back in the day but i keep up with it via YOU, but these enemies look really sweet. I hope this is a rare W for Bungie
A lot of people are speculating this will be the last proper d2 dlc. The complete and utter power creep seems impossible to balance so they’re just saying “fuck it”. Honestly I have no idea how a destiny 3 could work because there’s so much bloat in destiny 2 if we lose it all everyone will get upset, but if we keep most of the stuff going into destiny 3 what’s the point of the game?
I just think it’s funny that it finally took 10 years to get a completely new faction. It seems to me that the bungie higher ups that people complain about honestly thought having the same 4 factions since destiny launched would be fine. I know the scorn and taken exist but they really aren’t different. They follow the basic faction design of a small enemy, an exploding enemy, a middle health enemy, a slightly tanker enemy and maybe a large hard to kill enemy.
Wdym speculating? They've confirmed this is the end.
They are really trying to get preorders
@@PANCAKEMINEZZHave they? As far as I know all the D3 talk comes from rumours and inside knowledge. Bungie still insists they are working on d2
@@omensoffateMad i bet cry
19:10 YES THANK YOU, holy shit
Prismatic looks fun but CAN NOT be allowed to enter PvP.
The Dread are really cool although 2 of the 4 new enemies seem to just be just remixes of old enemies
The small ones look like reskinned scions
@@dickthehead1145 the weavers and attendants are stated to be darkness infused psions.
And the husks to me look like stealth ravagers but without the stealth
@@eiriksundby so they are reskins hahaha bungie is such a joke
They are all reskins
Who cares about pvp
Happy to see that devs finally got the chance to add content. Too bad i dropped this franchise before the taken king.
So now the question arises which content will be axed in order to shove this in.
@@skorpion7132Moon content is next on the block. They already axed Forsaken
@@raven75257 They haven't done that since WQ
one live stream and the gold fish memory destiny community is reset again and the last 10 years is magically forgiven. very cool.
Literally not even 2 months ago were people bitching and moaning about the d2 devs being fired and how they refuse to buy final shape out of how disgraceful the bungie execs are. Yet it only took em 1 shitty reveal stream to forget about everything bungie has done in the past decade. The cycle once again begins anew
@@panzershreck8077 yep lol. goes to show everyone's a hypocrite. it's all bullshit and bungie is full of it just as much as the people who play their games.
They aren't being forgiven though. A lot of people are still cautiously optimistic.
You better not mess with Destiny fans: they're addicted to playing the same game for 10 years straight
Says the loser who plays mid games lol
NIMBUS IS BACK
Welcome to neomuma!
I have been WAITING for this.
The return of my favourite Destiny UA-camr
Since the subclass was a last minute addition I doubt the campaign will be too focused on it thank god
"Yeah the gunbat *wheeze*"
good to see you man
IHE you get both new supers the light ones and the prismatic ones
That’s exactly it. This subclass is just for preorders. Think about that
Cry
End game asset reuse is just saying fuck it to balance. I think destiny is over after this, there is no way you can balance this with more content. Imagine trying to take this level of control away from players? This is a desperate move tbh looks cool tho
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"It feels infinite to me." No... Once the meta's figured out.. That's aaaaall anyone's gonna use.
Not everyone is a meta slave
the meta has been getting more loose so idc
Hype building for IHE destiny vid :o
i believe these new enemies were intended since TFS first got to the drawing board, hell, maybe even before
I could see how bungie saw that they were short on time so they just said "ok, we have this big guy, we announce that one and hope we can finish the rest as a surprise for day 1", then the delay happened and they used that valuable time to finish the new race and announced it on the stream
Maybe I'm too optimistic and faithful in Bungie, but i see genuine passion break through the cracks of mediocrity in Destiny, with the devs apparently begging management to do certain things to regain player trust and being denied for a while, i want to believe that they're not giving us all these goodies as a "shut up, be happy and give us money" and more as a "sorry we fucked up, we'll change that"
either way, I'm staying for The Final Shape and beyond, because i want to see where they're going to take the history
I'd say its less an apology and more them taking more control over the process away from upper management types.
I'm sure the dread must have been planned since development for the final shape began. I doubt bungie would have been able to suddenly come up with an entirely new faction and add them to the game in 4 months
The blog post they made recently shows the aspects prism can use. Most of them are.....kinda mid but I understand they dont want to make THE CLASS.
Like since I cant use icarus dash or heat rises in prism, I'm likely not going to use it in pvp as movement and angles are too important.
Edit: Also looking at the class exotics its looking to be diet versions of those exotics as the titan mark says spirit of ophidian: Boosts handling, when the actual ophidians boosts handling AND reload. So again it seems they dont want it to be the best.
I low key wish bungie just threw balance out the window and just gave us all our tools, but then this dlc would be mandatory of anyone looking to play.
At the same time these blogs have tempered my excitement.
BABE WAKE UP ALEX MADE A VID ON THE FINAL SHAPE NEWS
You get the new subclass right away and a full build with olit they said. And once again Bungie is at its best on its deathbed
It’s amazing that I’m so desperate for new IHE content that I’ll just watch him react to a trailer for a game I’ve never played.
I didn’t know they could make new enemies, until they did…
the ironic thing about all of this is that if they just did this from the start as in, include all theres features and shit that people actually wanted, they wouldn't be in the state they are in right now. It just shows how poor and unorganized the leadership at bungie is, the execs micromanage/nickel and dime everything until the game and company is in a horrendous state than finally the devs are given the freedom and budget to actually make the game good. Its absolutely mental that bungie has made it this far with how unsustainable their business practices are.
IHE YOUR AMAZING
What about his amazing?
@eranronen573 amazingly big
Hey I know this guy
No way you like IHE knowing he is a whining kid
also im still worried that the new expansion is just gonna reuse previous levels. they literally havent addressed that part since the last reveal they did
OJ Simpson dies
IHE returns
Yessss I’ve been waiting for this
I want to be excited to play Destiny again. But I'm far too familiar with this hype cycle. Also, new animations and stuff is cool for the new subclass, but really it isn't changing the gameplay that drastically. And I personally think Destiny needs more depth, a reason to play optimaly, because since the beginning, the only reason to do all these flashy moves and cooldown cycling abilities is just style points. Rarely do you need to play like the trailers show unless you're soloing a dungeon, and even then, the hardest part of soloing content is the dps checks, which is the least skill dependent part of it... I'll stop ranting 😅
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It's the same cycle we've seen before. This DLC is likely to be pretty solid, the next one is going to be awful, and after that the next one is going to be meh
Ya knew it was comin
5:35 anyone notice The guy next to the art director, and the shirt he was wearing? It says destiny with a wrinkled up “3”. It’s official y’all.
the king is back
i just want my thorn to bleed into my strand subclass.. hunter strand super + thorn poison
No moth people = not touching the game.
They're dead in lore kic
13:55 Kinda looks like an X-Chozo Warrior with wings
I really enjoy your Destiny videos. As a typical Destiny fan who has a love/hate relationship with the game. I logged in shortly after Lance Reddick passed away to join in with people paying their respects - I hadn't played since Shadowkeep. I hung around just because shooting aliens felt cool, but I'd also missed a ton of DLC. I've watched your whole Destiny series today (perks of working from home, eh?) and shared a lot of similar thoughts, even if I may have stuck around more in your down days.
I think this video is the first time I've felt hyped about Destiny since The Taken King. I honestly think a lot of people will play it just to get that "ending" that we've been promised. I really hope they deliver, but my expectations are not high, even if I am hyped.
All of this seems very power creeped but it's probably the last expansion ill play of D2 so atleast It'll be fun.
We are already so op it doesn't really matter. Also prismatic only has a handful of skills to pick from so the others are not pointless. My sunbrasers build doesn't work on it
I stopped playing not long after finishing the Lightfall campaign, after getting disgusted by whatever that narrative was, as well as the monetization & management woes from the company. I've really enjoyed my break away from the game, and up until the "Into the Light" reveal content (that I've bothered to look at), and this particular reveal segment, I've been pretty content away from the game.
I _might_ return, but only after all the content creators and likewise churn through it to tell me how good/bad it is. I know Bungie's marketing team is good enough at their job to turn a shit stain into the Mona Lisa -- can't trust anything they put out as an advertisement.
I appreciate this video so much since this whole thing was basically me when I saw the video. Like I was both pleased and annoyed.
After final shape, you should do I hate the light vs dark saga video.
I think the new enemies were always planned, whereas the Prismatic Subclass was the stuff they've added with the delay. A subclass isn't something you'd save for a future trailer; an enemy type is, imo.
Also, you mentioned the lore aspect of these enemies, Byf has a pretty solid theory on them. These are all past factions that the Witness has reshaped like they did the Tormentors; seen more obviously in the new Psions, whereas the Husk is subtler, but still has the hallmarks of a Hive Acolyte. The Grim are a species we haven't seen, the Subjigators are based on Rhulk, the Tormentors are based on Nezarec.
Nah bc the subclass leak we got back last year that showed a red subclass had other subclass abilities for the grenade and melee. 4 months is not even close to enough time to add a subclass and entire new exotic class item system that synergizes with it
Nothing new was added in the three months, if you ask me, or at least, nothing substantial. I bet all of this was planned, and the three extra months just helped make it so it’s much more polished at this stage than it would’ve been before.
If you remember from the first trailer, the titan was glowing like they were here.
Now we gotta wait for the flying taken bad enemies! :D
What's funny about the new player on-boarding experience is they have finally decided to just let you... skip it entirely lol like there's a specific mission banner you walk up to that just skips New Light in the cosmodrome now. They did do the right thing and they have new starter kits for free at Ikora that let you choose one of the Light subclasses and get a starter set of the aspects/fragments without having to unlock them as well legendary/exotics and an armor set. Aka they made that terrible New light Starter kit microtransaction that launched with Season of the Wish that they eventually took down free.
Technically theres more years than days
I like to think the devs tied and gagged all the executives to their chairs so they could cook
Yes those poor poor devs want the best for the players!!! But ughh those damn greedy executives are ruining the game!!!
Bro, most senior employees are not working at bungie anymore
Ngl I’ve only used the Sol subclass since it was released.
Strand titan doesn't suck legit the best class for strand what??
6:05 he's my fav part of these trailers lmao
The new subclass is only using specific attributes from the the other classes, so there’s still a reason to run the other classes. This is a jack of all trades master of none class.
Unfortunately, Bungie knows their audience too well. While all this stuff looks okay, to me it's still kind of the bare minimum. But to Destiny players, it feels more like an ocean of great things because they've been SO STARVED for anything outside of mediocre. They've starved their fanbase so much that people are cheering for what should be the absolute basics from any other studio.
It's crazy and fascinating to watch. Great vid as always Alex, looking forward to your views on this final expansion after it comes out.
Legit. I don't even think the ''the shooting is amazing'' really holds up anymore either. It was more impressive in 2014 but you have so many other options for good feeling shooters now lmao.
They didn’t even show anything good yet. I don’t want to go back to playlist activities and the same stuff after the campaign is done
As much as people hate bungie. Their business model for not overdelivering is fucking genius. Always keep the expectations low for the playerbase and you will always impress them. You dare try to take off the blind fold from their rabid fanbse tho, they go fucking nuts and can't stop coping about how not shit their game is.
Well, to be fair... everyone else left, so they only need to cater to the one group that is still in denial.
@@omensoffate Because they can't otherwise you get the Forsaken schtick where they spoil the one intereting thing before you'd eventually play up towards it.
I've not played this game past mission 1 (or 2) of Forsaken and even if I wanted to I couldn't, so my "Destiny-fix" has been fully through IHE in the sense of watching a nice screensaver covering a trashfire. What I gather from Destiny (Bungie) is that they have been quite adept at making a 'story' all of a single sentience (or scene) long, and if they 'reveal' anything, they give away the "story-mode campaign".
IHE has joined the Reactionists guild
drop STING part 4 on JAR already
We backed bungie into a corner and forced them to cook, whether or not they burn is up to them but rn they kinda cookin
I feel like the devs a searching through concept art to make something new if they run out of ideas
Did you say strand titan is boring??? Like literally the strongest subclass in the game…? The one someone soled pantheon with???
Haha I had to listen again… yes you did. You obviously don’t play this game…
boring ≠ powerful
One of the only reasons why i think it isn't (all) of them is that it would then be like well why would you use the og wehn you can edit it for example solar lock one of the only reasons you run solar lock especailly in higher content is for that well every single worlds first ran it only time they didn't is when it wasn't released so i think tis nice they are mix and matching but i feel like its going to be limited to where its just oh 1 build the multi buff exotics do seem cool though however i truly dont feel like this is the end for d2 like most say as i dont feel like bungie would be willing to take that well chance at another game i feel like they are going to just make another story in the game or another chapter i pray its good though as after lightfall bungie is in oh shit mode i just hope they continue this type of shit in the future
I’ll be curious to hear your thoughts on TFS, now that the expansion is out.
11:26 hits the nail on the head.