In the first movie, remember the dude in the prison said, "If you murder someone in front of someone else, you can pass it on to them, so you don't necessarily have to die." So it is sticking to the lore. I think homeboy getting turned into a movie poster by a truck was just terrible luck.
Exactly, I was surprised he missed one of the major points from the first movie. It's like making a copy of the videotape in the ring and having someone else watch it.
Exactly. It was just because he was running away from a really bad turn of events that didn't go his way. Question is, did the demon make things go so poorly for him? Or was it all just dumb bad luck?
@@Gdub33 yeah I noticed a lot of people reviewing this movie Missed a lot of the plot points. Also forgetting some of the stuff from the original movie.
The Demon says to Skye "I've been waiting for you a long time". Meaning to me, it never had that 1 person who could spread it to multiple people until Skye.
I see where you're coming from. I kinda saw it as Skye having mental issues and trauma for a long while was only just recently able to get to her. I think your interpretation is right tho lol
I agree, that’s why everything the demon did was to make sure skye made it on that tour. It even showed up for rehearsals/mgms, probably to not get sued by the label 😅
I agree! I also took it as she's one of the only ones it has come across that had so much trauma and un-delt with issues that it could fester and thrive a lot more in her mind. Like Rose from the first movie lasted 6-7 days. But Skye was gone by the end of day 3. After her meeting with Morris, nothing after that was real.
Lol, the people that appear in her room are not dressed as fans. You said they moved like a dance troupe-- they ARE her dance troupe! They are the background dancers that we see from the beginning when she hurts her back. That's why when they get her, they throw her around and lift her up in unison, just like when they rotate her in midair in the beginning.
@@tpriceee I agree, it wasn't scary (the arm down the mouth and the sudden verticality of them piling up at the doorway were both unnerving, but not scary), but I found the scene really amazing. It's actually my favorite part of the movie, but, yeah, not scary...
2:07 the rules haven’t been bent. They stated in the first movie you can pass it on by k!lling someone and having a witness. Joel’s death was truly just a freak accident
What I think happened is that Joel killed the first guy, the second guy shot at him which caused Joel to shoot back, meanwhile Lewis is still in the room when this is happening, and sees the guy die which causes him to receive the curse, Joel could’ve gotten away if he watched where he was going ik he was getting shot at but, yeah lol
Not only that, but demon accelerated the events after the meeting with Morris. It probably felt threatened by his plan, so it temporarily possessed Skye to break her down to the point of no return. In the dancers scene, a demonic arm goes down Skye's mouth, indicating possession.
@ tbh I just thought that morris didn’t exist honestly, which I don’t agree with but we just can’t trust reality. It definitely did get bigger (the demon) but I don’t want it to be some giant monster, I like what it did in the first, but I would like to see maybe a more stable, but stronger person that can handle it (like a veteran). I agree with foundlfix that if the message is suppose to be mental health then rose should’ve lived but not skye.
@@Mia-fp9tr The 3rd movie will clear up whether Morris existed or not. But it's highly likely that he did exist in the 1st encounter, but not in the 2nd. Joel is mentally strong, and he survived 6 days without completely losing it. He was able to transfer the curse. As for Gemma, I don't think she even follows Skye's tours because she still hates her.
@HorrorDrummer666 nah that was the best scene for me she was in and out of consciousness throughout the movie it was ok that was amazingly choreographed and creepy. 😂
Ending was both goofy and terrifying as hell. Watching the audience scream with horror as their favorite singer takes herself out on stage is unnerving as hell. And of course the implications of what the curse will do to everyone there.
it kind of makes no sense that all those people would just sit there and watch that. it actually makes very little sense. no one would do that. this makes more sense when it's just one person watching and they just sit there because it's so shocking, one person would sit there and not move. but an entire crowd of people? no. as soon as she first got herself in the eye everyone would be running for the exits, the venue crew would run out there to try making her stop. no one would just be sitting there watch that at a live performance
@@b1bbscraz3yOh boy, here you go again. What is it with you and these ridiculous ass comments? You must really think you know it all. This is the third time you've said something didn't make sense or stated what someone else would/wouldn't do, and each time you're literally just assuming.
Sometimes foundflix misses some obvious things that make you doubt he really paid attention or sometimes whether he just reads off a synopsis found on wiki..
I didn't realize that it was louis at the beginning there. Also, I think people are just under the assumption that the monster HAS to possess someone to off themselves to pass it on, or they really wanted to see joel's possessed death.
27:38 I disagree. I think that the fact that she doesn’t win adds to the message of how important it is to take mental health seriously, because in this case, she genuinely needed support and her family and team valued her tour and career over her so much that she had no way to get out. I think it’s a necessary message for families and loved ones of mentally ill people to realize that living with a mental illness is HELL. You have NO IDEA what someone else is going through because everyone’s individual experience is unique, and in order for people to get better, some things have to be put aside for later. There is no tour without our protagonist, but there is no protagonist anymore because nobody was willing to allow the tour to be canceled.
Nah I’m getting tired of cynical endings like this , it’s always a losing battle regardless of what you do , the second movie makes more sense , the first not so much And like it’s deeper then just “ addressing “ It’s about how to handle or manage This works because this character is getting used by the culture of Hollywood and being a celebrity
@@nqk_0662 Personally yeah it bums me out because it’s like “mental illness will ruin your entire existence irreparably and also the lives of everyone around you, might as well just uh… ‘unsubscribe from life’” if you catch my drift
Is that the message or is that just what you made up? Lol With the way mental health is now used as an excuse/crutch for literally everything, how can anyone take it seriously? Skye had physical pain . Says a lot that pretty much every comment is talking about her not being mentally able to handle the tour while ignoring that. No one valued the tour more than her, she chose not to talk to anyone. How could Skye get support if no one knows she needs it. Also, it was never said or implied that Skye didn't want to do the tour or that she was being forced to. You're definitely projecting.
@DavidKen878 Skye is one of many victims of fame that celebrities go through. She had obvious mental health issues and a serious lack of support. Her mother was her groomer manager, using her as a prop to fund her own life of luxury. She found herself surrounded by hordes of fake, superficial people who only support her for their own cut of her success. Show business is rough.
@FoundFlix you're misunderstanding the opening. We learn in the first movie that the curse can be transmitted from a curse-holder brutally murdering someone in front of another. The evil entity is passed through trauma. The drug dealer witnessed the stabbing (he's now cursed), and then LEWIS witnessed the drug dealer bleed out through the neck (and the curse is now on him.) Joel getting hit by the truck was just happenstance
100%. but seeing how fast that damn truck was driving DOWN A RESIDENTIAL 2 LINE ROAD while there's SNOW ON THE GROUND is kind of wild. since we see Lewis infested later he did get it from seeing the Russian guy bleed out, I haven't seen the first movie but I'm guessing the smile demon has no purpose having someone getting hit by a car since its goal is to have someone take themself out in front of someone to spread itself
I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would and a more than the first tbh. I’m curious if they make a 3rd how they will approach it and if it will come out as good
i just realised watching this video that the scene with the tv showing skai's first interview after the accident is in lewis' apartment (you can see the sword he later holds). Meaning that the demon is probably seeing this through lewis and seeks out skai to transfer to her.
I remember the demon telling sky towards the end of the movie that it had been waiting for someone like her for a long time, that’s why it replied with 🤩 when it texted her
But that doesnt make sense because SHE is the one who reaches out to Lewis. if she didnt reach out to him for drugs the demon wouldnt have been able to get her.
@@captainmarvelous7678I feel like Sky asking for the pills was a matter of WHEN she will text Lewis not IF she will text him. She was already getting pills from Lewis for her pain (text messages show August & September brief texts). While the demon was possessing Lewis, it probably saw this lovely pill problem Sky had and was just waiting patiently for her to text after seeing that interview. Which goes with Sky’s problem with asking/getting the proper help and support system she needs for her mental health. If Sky was more honest about her pill addiction, that could’ve prevented her from contacting Lewis in the first place. I know from personal experiences with my mental health that it can be hard & feel embarrassing to ask for help. I’ve also had partners with drug addictions and learned the hard way: you can only help someone who is ready *AND* wants to be helped. Also, *THEY* have to want to get better for themselves before anyone else. Sky sadly wasn’t at that point and we just get to watch her journey 🫶🏽
@@captainmarvelous7678she reached out to Gemma to and then found out she never really reached out to her it was just the demon messing with her head. So when she text Lewis to meet him for drugs the demon could have also been messaging her posing as him when he sent the 🤩 cause when she showed up to his apartment he didn’t even remember responding to her to come over
27:17 I don't think that the message is that "mental health issues are unconquerable" but rather what can happen when those issues aren't conquered, ultimately leading to the nuclear outcome, suicide. Suicide doesn't stop the pain, it just spreads grief which causes trauma in others, often those closest to them, resulting in the continuation of a vicious cycle. In both this movie and its predecessor, both protagonists are surrounded by mostly well meaning but misguided friends and family who don't believe what they're going through, resulting in further and further mental and social isolation until eventually it's too late. The demon is representative of that feeling of losing control and doing something you wouldn't do, something drastic, something that isn't you. I do believe there is a way to defeat the demon, I just don't think the right people were there at the right time to figure it out.
@@tiffanyramos9763Not really. Skye never told anyone what she was going through. So who was surrounded by that didn't believe her? Also, how is that the message when the people aren't actually taking their lives, but instead being forced to? Why is mental health even being brought up in the first place?
@@DavidKen878 Mental health is being brought up because the first appearance of the "trauma demon" was in the first movie with the psychologist as an analogy to her mentally ill mother. The mother was fighting her "inner demons" figuratively while the main character was fighting a demon literally. Which is why it made sense that by acknowledging your trauma and not running or fighting it you would strip the demon of its power over you rendering it beatable. And then the movie shat all over that message because it was a horror movie and needed to be open to a sequel so the demon was actually unbeatable all along and everything was an illusion. This could be interpreted as "mental health issues can't be beaten and eventually win" because the parallels were between the demon and the mother's mental illness.
@ It was an analogy to her mother? I read an interview where Parker Finn explain the message of the movie and this interpretation is way off from what he said. Rose's mother wasn't fighting anything. She wasn't even alive during the movie. You're definitely reading wayyyy too much into it and
@@windycitywarrior71yeah yeah we get it, you’re a big brave person that’s different from the rest and this is movie is mere child’s play to you because of how unfazed you are right? 😐
This movie hit me on a more personal level than I was anticipating, Perhaps one of my favorite movie of the year by far and the usage of sound in this movie was truly gnarly 😅
I think that’s what’s great about the movie. It’s the horror of not finding a cure to your issues or a cope. I think that’s fine to have a movie like that. It cements the horror by making you think there’s no way to win.
Yeah I got really confused about what you said with the rules being bent in the beginning....iirc In the first one, The protagonist visits a guy who tells her the only way to save herself from the curse is to commit a murder in front of a witness. Which is why he was trying to murder the gang member in front of the other one. But since Lewis witnessed the two murders then he would be the new host. I think Getting run over by the truck was just bad luck on his part. Nothing to do with the smile Demon /curse
@@KevinLopez-hz9zc True I actually wonder as well since it was only a week after Rose's death he would have to have dug deeper extremely quick to find that out but I guess we'll never know how he realized it. Edit: I do think since he was the one to figure out that a person survived the smile demon and passed it on to another, he probably checked that same person's records and pieced together the fact that he killed a person in front of a witness and that witness became the new host and probably assumed that was the only way to get rid of it but that's just my guess.
2:20 the prison scene in the first smile told us that if you murder someone violently in front of someone it will pass the curse it’s a trauma demon if you willing traumatize someone else it’ll let you go the reincarnation truck was just doing its job completely separate from the curse it self just bad luck
A big part of the story is what was real and what wasn't. If the conversation about not wearing the dress never happened, then this demon's mind control is so complete (even early in the infection) it's damn near unbeatable. Apparently in her mind's eye she's saying and doing all this stuff, but in the real world she's still presenting as ... sane and agreeable? To her she's driving an SUV with glass in her foot, but in the real world she's getting ready for a concert?? I think one issue with this demon is it's too powerful, which boomerangs into lowering the stakes. You know it can't be beaten, so now you're just watching it do its thing and claim a victim.
Yeah I agree it’s pretty impossible to win against, but maybe a suicide pact or something could beat it? Or like a Romeo and Juliet ending type of situation.
You nailed my feelings about the whole thing. Not a bad movie at all, but when the demon can make you see hear do anything it wants, and there’s no way for the protagonist to win, all of the dramatic tension is gone and it hurts the plot
I think it could manipulate Skue so much because she had extreme and fresh trauma. In Smile 1 she had trauma from when she was 10 years old (likely over 20 yrs old since she was a psychiatrist) while Skye's trauma is 1 year old. Joel was a cop and has likely seen some sht so he has a strong will and resistance. Thats why he could still plan and execute the opening scene on day 6. Thats my headcanon though
@@oliviav.3565 It's a possibility, but doesn't change the main problem being if the main character has no way whatsoever to make it, what it the incentive to watch?
I think the ending signifies less that "mental illness isn't possible to overcome" but more so that yeah, the people around her really failed her. I think it's a running theme for both movies but a lot more in this one. She's clearly not well, everyone around her knows she has a bad past with taking care of herself when things get bad and instead of listening to her, they just force her to continue on. Like Rose in the first movie, and Skye now, both of their occupations consume them and their mental health, Rose in the first one putting it more on herself, and Skye being forced by the people around her to continue overworking herself.
Most of the movie right after she sees her drug dealer die isn’t real. The demon does let her pop back into her life occasionally though like at her performance rehearsal and seeing the guy at the bar just to give her hope so it can take it away from her.
I think she hallucinated from the moment she wanted to refuse the costume that she had on at the end scene. Or when the dancer stuck his arm in her throat. She was adamant about not wearing thst costume but everything indicates that was a hallucination so I think the demon took her on autopilot from there on
Smile 2 was soo good. It was times I forgot I was watching a horror movie cause the choreography, music was actually fantastic. I can't wait for It Follows 2
I hope for It Follows 2 they don't touch the characters of the first movie. Make it new characters, new setting, and its own story. The ending of the first one was perfectly ambiguous for the characters and ended the movie well. I hope they don't do a cold open where Jay dies or something. Too much time has past and the actors are way older now too, so it wouldn't make too much sense in that way as well. Unless they figured out a way to get rid of " it" but that's kinda lame imo
It passed to Lewis because he watched him kill the drug dealer brutally haha Joel was actually free from the curse since he brutally infected someone else by committing murder with a witness… which makes him getting obliterated by a truck a mere few seconds into his freedom THAT MUCH WORSE 😅😅
Yeah i can't believe he missed that detail. That's why they move so theatrically, and they're attack mimics the dance practice routine from earlier in the film.
Id love to see more horror movies where the main character actually tells people what they feel, see, and are going through instead of just saying something like "I feel like I'm going crazy". Or Someone that's totally freaked out but calms down quickly, is more inquisitive about it, a "smart solver" type, and works/experiments to solve the problem more. I would also love to see the next movie actually come out for once when the situation potentially affects more of the world. Just particular tropes I feel like I still see way too much.
man I remember when Naomi Scott was in Lemonade Mouth 😭 it's wild that I was first introduced to her in elementary school and now I'm a horror fan and I get to see her kick ass in a great horror movie
Ngl I've watched this film 4 times and this has to be the first episode of @FoundFlix I'm disappointed in. Were y'all even paying attention? Lewis gained the Smile demon after Joel killed the gang members IN FRONT OF HIM. Lewis witnessed THAT, end of discussion. No rule change, just not paying attention for some strange reason. The people in her closet/apartment were NOT fans, they were all of her backup dancers. (Y'all even said "twisted choreography" not 45 seconds later and still stuck with "fans" for your final edit) "Dehydrated how?!" she may have never actually BEEN hydrating in every cut we see of her drinking since she was already infected with the Smile Demon, it's "draining her" in more ways than one hence the concept of the hallucinations. Almost everything past Lewis' death is VERY LIKELY hallucinations INCLUDING Morris. (yes this would mean almost the entire movie) Which explains why Skye is transported DIRECTLY to the concert from the freezer at the end. The Smile demon has been messing with her the ENTIRE TIME. With both movies, I think it's safe to say, it's an entity of "eff you I do what I want" giving its' victims false hope in finding a way out while feeding on their emotional dread and fear throughout. And while it CAN be "stopped" The Smile Demon refuses to allow that because it has the power to do so in self-preservation. Skye's cycle is just a LOT easier to SEE when the switch from reality to hallucinations begin ESPECIALLY if you watch it again.
I loved this movie and was excited to see the ending explained, but I was disappointed by the lack of… accuracy, detail, and care compared to other reviews for this movie.
If morris was a hallucination why give us a flashback jump scare of his brother screwing up his jaw. They should have just went along with a scene of him injecting skye as opposed to throwing it away and suddenly skipping to the concert.
I think jole’s death was more for the audience, he was able to pass on the curse but him dying by the truck is to give the audience the feeling that this curse isn’t escapable, even if he didn’t die he would have to live with watching Rose dying and killing the guy AND knowing he passed it on to somebody, this curse is unbeatable in every sense
Parker Finn improved from the last film 10000%! The gore, sound track, characters and cinematography was chefs kiss! Every-time the camera angle starting rotating upside down it just got darker and darker
I think it would be insane to see how this played out from someone else’s perspective like her mom or something like makes me really wonder what was real, what wasn’t, and generally how this all played out outside of skyes perspective
I love the concept of this franchise however I have to agree with it's attitude toward mental health being rather callous, though one could argue that's the intention as those suffering would feel this hopelessness and the public at large, particularly in America, disregard mental heatlh - thus establishing a basis for why it is so ruthless in it's delivery.
I dunno, I’ve read an interview by the director from after the first one came out, and he seemed rather blasé about the idea, saying stuff like, “Yeah, it doesn’t always end well” in regards to mental health. His argument was that the outcome was more “realistic” than the happy ending most would want, and he just sounded like a pretentious douchebag throughout. So yeah, in this case the callousness of the art reflects the callousness of the artist. I was boiling so hard reading that interview that I wanted him to be liable for any deaths his message caused, however “unrealistic” that desire is.
@@xanderfloyd2656 I can't say I've seen anything of that sort, but if that is the case I can only say I pity him fot the lack of foresight that attitude comes with.
Sigh. If a movie is enough to make you give up bettering your mental illness you wouldnt have overcome it anyways. If you are at such a low point then don't watch movies specifically about a trauma monster, doh.
@@xanderfloyd2656I mean, he’s right. Maybe instead of being angry at the director for portraying a common outcome of mental health issues, we should actually try to address the circumstances that bring people to that point. For every one person who made it out, there are countless others who never did. It happened to my mom.
@@chickensalad3535 yeah, you got a point. My emotions were running high when I wrote that, so I probably wasn't being super-charitable, but I agree now that we should focus on making mental health care better. I don't see it happening in the US for the next few years, but maybe in 2029 we can start working on it.
Something I noticed in the beginning is that the POV is from someone watching Skye on TV. I think the Smile demon was watching her through Lewis & was already devising a plan to possess her. Especially since we see that same TV with the GameCube set up in his apartment later.
Joel at the beginning of the movie had one of the dumbest plans ever to pass the curse on. Bro went about that situation horribly wrong and he could’ve been fine if he had any sort of plan lol, but the demon probably messed his brain up to the point of no return. Also, the way this movie ends there’s no way that it’s not some apocalyptic type of situation from how many people the demon reaches. Very interested to see how it plays out.
Those were her backup dancers that did the "interpretive dance." I also believe that guy sticking his hand down her throat marks the moment where everything from then on is not real. The best friend coming over was fake as well. I think only the initial text was real.
27:14 thank you for pointing that out it agitates me because the first and second movie the ending might as well say you can’t beat your mental illness and be better
If watching a horror movie is enough to make you give up hope of beating your mental illness, you never would have beat it in the first place. Anyone with Skye's symptoms in real life would be a paranoid schizophrenic with all other major mental illnesses stacked on top, so you would be too far gone to help anyways in that situation. I have seen several comments like yours on other Smile 2 videos and you need to grow a friggin backbone. It's not a movie's responsibility to coddle you and make YOU work on YOUR mental illness.
hats off to everyone. Smile 2 is now one of my favorite movies of all-time. I could only imagine where Smile 3 (which is comfirmed to start filming in 2025) goes from here. I would more than happy if they just decide to give it the horror movie sequel treatment and make like 10 of these Smile movies. I'll be there for all of them.
There were points in this movie, at the theaters, where I asked myself, ‘am I allowed to get up and leave?’ Not because the movie was bad, but because I was so scared/the movie gave me such anxiety. Great film!!
I rented this movie at home and felt the same way sitting in my own living room! God the suspense was crazy! But btw yes it is perfectly okay and acceptable to leave in the middle of a movie for any reason. I was so pleasantly surprised by how well this movie was filmed and written. great sequal for the original which i also loved!
The fact the thing text her from Lewis phone ment what it had planned for her started before her infection.. to a degree, it shows it knew her mind before it even had a grip on it.
Had an interesting conversation with a psychologist about the first movie. They said the movie had dangerous subliminal messaging about not being able to escape your trauma and it’ll always have power over you
In all my Horror/Thriller surfing days, Smile and its sequel are some of the most terrifying concepts I've ever seen. Not just because of the tragic deaths for all involved, but their helplessness and the demon's overwhelming strength in comparison to them, its victims. It's like a lion in a meerkat den just feasting and killing as it pleases with no hope of being defeated. On paper you think, "Yes, that's what I want the villain to be", but as it plays out in these two films it's just the most crushing thing that could very well depress any who watch it hoping for a silver lining or comeback from the 'Forces of Good'. But there are none--only dead people.
The ending had me thinking about Morris. Was he even real, and did he actually wanted to help? Or was he just a distraction or "mirage" created by the being to make her think there was a way to stop it? It's probably a dumb question, but I had to ask.
I think Morris was real at least the initial meeting with him at the bar where he gave her some background info into the demon. Everything after that was a concocted hallucination.
THANK YOU for the critique at the end about the Smile movies (and a lot of horror movies in general really) centering on mental illness but almost always giving the mentally ill characters a horrible fate, as if there’s no hope for people that are struggling. It’s a really over-used trope that honestly needs to go away.
i need you to know it’s 1am and i can’t sleep now because that thumbnail was the first damn thing i saw when i opened this app to look for a video to lull me to sleep
So, in the beginning, Joel guts that mobster in front of his brother, and then the brother gets shot in the neck and bleeds out. If the young kid wasn't there to witness it and Joel was able to escape, would he be free of the demon? Would the demon just jump into the traumatized, shot brother and then die as the brother dies?
Umm that's a good question if Lewis wasn't there then maybe it could have transferred to him. But maybe there's rules to it like it takes a while so since he died almost immediately after their could have been not enough time. And since it's not the original seeing someone commits suicide than it could be different rules as well
@@anthonyogden9762Lewis witnessed Joel murdering the two mobsters the entire time so the curse did in fact get passed on to Lewis since he was the only person in the room who witnessed the murders. No rules got bent or anything. Joel getting hit by the truck was just bad luck.
@@chriswelter3859 I know I'm aware of that I was just saying if Lewis wasn't there how would that go down? Did the guy immediately get the curse after seeing his brother gets stabbed and then when he died at the cursed guy with him or would it go back to Joel? That's all I was wondering
@@SSJBlueVegitoYeah we all saw the movie. I was putting out a hypothetical. If Lewis hadn't been there to witness the whole scene, what would have happened? It's safe to say that the brother had already been traumatized.By scene his sibling get gutted by joel, but then he died of a gunshot wound immediately after. Is Lewis hadn't been there, and the demon had jumped into that brother that got shot, would the demon then die? Or would it just revert back to Joel?
I always thought that she did put her foot down about the outfit but because the demon was in so much control towards the end, that it made her agree to wearing it, just to further torture her
I really think you were wrong on one point my friend. Right at the beginning, when you explain Joel's death... There wasn't any forcing as you say. Lewis saw Joel violently kill another person (2 actually), so at that moment Joel was freed, (he explains clearly how the only survivor of the curse works in the first Smile, the man in prison) so the curse was passed on to Lewis. Then Joel dies while running away, but not because of the demon (or whatever it is), in fact Joel, if he hadn't been hit by the truck, would be free and safe, the fact that he dies anyway is due to a tragic coincidence, which serves to give greater impact to the story, and make the entire opening scene surprising and adrenaline-like
I wanna see where the 3rd one goes. Like will it become so widespread that the government gets involved? Inb4 the president gets it and then does a press conference televised to the entire planet at the end of the movie.
It feels like it’s written by someone with mental illnesses. As someone with mental illness I like this cause there is no escaping it it’s with you your whole life no matter what you do it’s always there waiting for you to slip
1:21 it’s not mentioned particularly in the first minutes of the video but I read somewhere that the hallucination (person lit on fire) he saw was Rose (the protagonist) of the first film. As always, excellent video. 👏🏻
If this thing was a scp I think the only why to contain it would be to keep the host alive and restrained from self deleting Edit: I think its object class would be Keter
The thing about the mental health angle is that both characters didn't deal with their trauma, so it destroyed them and hurt others. I bet that if it infects someone who has truly dealt with their trauma, it would lose. However, the monster is strong, it probably would give the victim NEW trauma and feed off of that.
9:21 I know the movie wants me to take the smiling little girl seriously, but she just keeps giving that "I like the Wizard of Oz" kid from A Christmas Story 🤣
Maybe the saving grace for the people in the third movie will be the fact that there is now a unified front of people suffering together? That could be the overarching "moral" (if one could be found) relating to the mental health metaphor. And within the movie's canon, the smile demon seems to go for one person at a time. Could that be it's weakness? Perhaps it might be more vulnerable in the third film as a result of spreading itself too thin, trying to go after all victime but unable to succeed as it has lost the advantage of an isolated single target.
That's what I was thinking. What if the demon discovers that it simply cannot infect all of those people at once with any severity? Basically watering down it's affect.
Why does it need a happy ending? It’s a horror movie about a demon who takes over people’s minds. Why does there need to be some deeper message about anything? Lol it’s supposed to be scary not a fuckin pepsi commercial about coming together
I really really loved the first SMILE, I felt it was probably one of the best thriller/suspense movies ever for the first 2/3ds of the movie, and then it felt like they didn't really know how to wrap it up. SMILE 2 didn't have this problem, and kept that anxiety active the entire way, I felt exhausted by the end but in a good way and ultimately dreading the aftermath of the final scene.
Well that’s a horrifying thumbnail to come across at 3am after suddenly waking up from a nightmare and not being able to get back to sleep.
Lol wait til you see it in the movie..! terrifying!
Fax, gotta make sure it’s in my watch history so it’s unlikely to show up in my feed
Same, I was just scrolling then BOOM 👻
Came to say the exact same thing but it’s two here 😂
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In the first movie, remember the dude in the prison said, "If you murder someone in front of someone else, you can pass it on to them, so you don't necessarily have to die." So it is sticking to the lore. I think homeboy getting turned into a movie poster by a truck was just terrible luck.
Yes I was going to comment this
Exactly, I was surprised he missed one of the major points from the first movie. It's like making a copy of the videotape in the ring and having someone else watch it.
Exactly. It was just because he was running away from a really bad turn of events that didn't go his way. Question is, did the demon make things go so poorly for him? Or was it all just dumb bad luck?
@@Gdub33 yeah I noticed a lot of people reviewing this movie Missed a lot of the plot points. Also forgetting some of the stuff from the original movie.
I laughed so hard when he got hit
The way the Smile demon systematically broke Skye down was pure torture lol. any time she got a glimpse of hope it was snatched away immediately
The Smile demon is a certified A$$hole
10:04 The scariest part of the movie IMO. 🤢
Just got done watching it rn and its 11:36 pm😂 im fucked
@@mikeaflick that scene where she got chased thru the apartment sent chills down my spine 😂
@ that part eased me a lil, seemed hella choreographed
The Demon says to Skye "I've been waiting for you a long time". Meaning to me, it never had that 1 person who could spread it to multiple people until Skye.
I see where you're coming from. I kinda saw it as Skye having mental issues and trauma for a long while was only just recently able to get to her. I think your interpretation is right tho lol
I agree, that’s why everything the demon did was to make sure skye made it on that tour. It even showed up for rehearsals/mgms, probably to not get sued by the label 😅
I agree! I also took it as she's one of the only ones it has come across that had so much trauma and un-delt with issues that it could fester and thrive a lot more in her mind. Like Rose from the first movie lasted 6-7 days. But Skye was gone by the end of day 3. After her meeting with Morris, nothing after that was real.
Never thought about it like that great observation !
@@Codini_Craven I don't think Morris was ever real to begin with.
Excellent choice of thumbnail, really puts the emphasis on your audience not sleeping
I'd like your comment, but I don't wanna ruin the 666 likes.
Good
That is so real, that is the one image that keeps me up at night with those damn eyes
Lol, the people that appear in her room are not dressed as fans. You said they moved like a dance troupe-- they ARE her dance troupe! They are the background dancers that we see from the beginning when she hurts her back. That's why when they get her, they throw her around and lift her up in unison, just like when they rotate her in midair in the beginning.
I’m surprised some people thought they were fans. If you paid attention, they are the background dancers
That whole seen was goofy as fuck, not even “scary” in the slightest😭😭
Thank you ! 😂 @@tpriceee
Lol, thank god you're here- this changes everything.
@@tpriceee I agree, it wasn't scary (the arm down the mouth and the sudden verticality of them piling up at the doorway were both unnerving, but not scary), but I found the scene really amazing. It's actually my favorite part of the movie, but, yeah, not scary...
2:07 the rules haven’t been bent. They stated in the first movie you can pass it on by k!lling someone and having a witness. Joel’s death was truly just a freak accident
Idk. Seems like when he murdered the 2 gang members, he was free of the curse at that point, and his death was just an unfortunate accident.
Yeah, this is what I thought too.
Definitely an accident. Had he still been cursed, I'm sure truck driver that killed him would be traumatized after splitting a guy in half after all🤣
According to Wikipedia, he was able to transfer the curse to Lewis.
What I think happened is that Joel killed the first guy, the second guy shot at him which caused Joel to shoot back, meanwhile Lewis is still in the room when this is happening, and sees the guy die which causes him to receive the curse, Joel could’ve gotten away if he watched where he was going ik he was getting shot at but, yeah lol
Yeah surprised he didn’t see that, I thought it was obvious considering Joel apologized to him for passing the curse to him.
And I think the demon was more aggressive with sky because her mental state was already weak, where was with rose her mental state was stronger.
I said that to my girlfriend who watched this film and also Gemma was never with skye.
Not only that, but demon accelerated the events after the meeting with Morris. It probably felt threatened by his plan, so it temporarily possessed Skye to break her down to the point of no return. In the dancers scene, a demonic arm goes down Skye's mouth, indicating possession.
@ tbh I just thought that morris didn’t exist honestly, which I don’t agree with but we just can’t trust reality. It definitely did get bigger (the demon) but I don’t want it to be some giant monster, I like what it did in the first, but I would like to see maybe a more stable, but stronger person that can handle it (like a veteran). I agree with foundlfix that if the message is suppose to be mental health then rose should’ve lived but not skye.
@ I wonder if Gemma also saw the death of skye, like via a life stream?
@@Mia-fp9tr The 3rd movie will clear up whether Morris existed or not. But it's highly likely that he did exist in the 1st encounter, but not in the 2nd.
Joel is mentally strong, and he survived 6 days without completely losing it. He was able to transfer the curse. As for Gemma, I don't think she even follows Skye's tours because she still hates her.
I honestly didn’t know how they’d follow up with the first one. I was surprised how damn good this sequel was.
Yea after Smile 2, no one can say that this movie was a$$ because that’s a damn lie.
This film is tiktok brain asf. Its trash. But theyre funny.
@@ragekage702 meh. It was ok. The scene where the fans are in her hallway was silly
@@HorrorDrummer666That was her dance crew which is why they were synced up with her.
@HorrorDrummer666 nah that was the best scene for me she was in and out of consciousness throughout the movie it was ok that was amazingly choreographed and creepy. 😂
Ending was both goofy and terrifying as hell. Watching the audience scream with horror as their favorite singer takes herself out on stage is unnerving as hell. And of course the implications of what the curse will do to everyone there.
Did you see the extras laughing and waving there hands tryna get their 5 mins of fame, lollll
@@donbongz4732damn must’ve missed that 😂
@@donbongz4732now i gotta rewatch 😭😭🤣
it kind of makes no sense that all those people would just sit there and watch that. it actually makes very little sense. no one would do that. this makes more sense when it's just one person watching and they just sit there because it's so shocking, one person would sit there and not move. but an entire crowd of people? no. as soon as she first got herself in the eye everyone would be running for the exits, the venue crew would run out there to try making her stop. no one would just be sitting there watch that at a live performance
@@b1bbscraz3yOh boy, here you go again. What is it with you and these ridiculous ass comments? You must really think you know it all. This is the third time you've said something didn't make sense or stated what someone else would/wouldn't do, and each time you're literally just assuming.
Louis saw the murder of the gang member which traumatized him and that’s how it passed. This was covered in the first one
I didn’t realize that was him at the start
Sometimes foundflix misses some obvious things that make you doubt he really paid attention or sometimes whether he just reads off a synopsis found on wiki..
I didn't realize that it was louis at the beginning there. Also, I think people are just under the assumption that the monster HAS to possess someone to off themselves to pass it on, or they really wanted to see joel's possessed death.
Makes sense, Lewis was there there the whole time, caught it & passed it on to Sky. So that's why he said, "This wasn't meant for you" 🤔
@@ElijahNMitchellsame🤣🤣
27:38 I disagree. I think that the fact that she doesn’t win adds to the message of how important it is to take mental health seriously, because in this case, she genuinely needed support and her family and team valued her tour and career over her so much that she had no way to get out. I think it’s a necessary message for families and loved ones of mentally ill people to realize that living with a mental illness is HELL. You have NO IDEA what someone else is going through because everyone’s individual experience is unique, and in order for people to get better, some things have to be put aside for later. There is no tour without our protagonist, but there is no protagonist anymore because nobody was willing to allow the tour to be canceled.
Nah I’m getting tired of cynical endings like this , it’s always a losing battle regardless of what you do , the second movie makes more sense , the first not so much
And like it’s deeper then just “ addressing “
It’s about how to handle or manage
This works because this character is getting used by the culture of Hollywood and being a celebrity
@@nqk_0662
Personally yeah it bums me out because it’s like “mental illness will ruin your entire existence irreparably and also the lives of everyone around you, might as well just uh… ‘unsubscribe from life’” if you catch my drift
A darker version of Brittney's story with a worse ending
Is that the message or is that just what you made up? Lol With the way mental health is now used as an excuse/crutch for literally everything, how can anyone take it seriously? Skye had physical pain . Says a lot that pretty much every comment is talking about her not being mentally able to handle the tour while ignoring that.
No one valued the tour more than her, she chose not to talk to anyone. How could Skye get support if no one knows she needs it. Also, it was never said or implied that Skye didn't want to do the tour or that she was being forced to. You're definitely projecting.
@DavidKen878 Skye is one of many victims of fame that celebrities go through. She had obvious mental health issues and a serious lack of support. Her mother was her groomer manager, using her as a prop to fund her own life of luxury. She found herself surrounded by hordes of fake, superficial people who only support her for their own cut of her success. Show business is rough.
the reveal at the end that the whole sequence was in her head messed me up
Huge plot twist imo
@@grandoblivion5268literally exactly the same as the first tf u mean, y'all dense
@@thedevilsrockstxr2309 calm down Jamal, don’t pull out the 9😳
@@grandoblivion5268😂😂😂
@@thedevilsrockstxr2309 yea calm down 😂
@FoundFlix you're misunderstanding the opening. We learn in the first movie that the curse can be transmitted from a curse-holder brutally murdering someone in front of another. The evil entity is passed through trauma. The drug dealer witnessed the stabbing (he's now cursed), and then LEWIS witnessed the drug dealer bleed out through the neck (and the curse is now on him.) Joel getting hit by the truck was just happenstance
100%. but seeing how fast that damn truck was driving DOWN A RESIDENTIAL 2 LINE ROAD while there's SNOW ON THE GROUND is kind of wild. since we see Lewis infested later he did get it from seeing the Russian guy bleed out, I haven't seen the first movie but I'm guessing the smile demon has no purpose having someone getting hit by a car since its goal is to have someone take themself out in front of someone to spread itself
That thumbnail was terrifying man😭😭
Wait til you see it in the movie..!
If you think about that one scene from BeetleJuice BeetleJuice where BeetleJuice’s eyes looked similar it makes the thumbnail kinda funny
It was the stained undies at the video's 10:00 mark that traumatized me!
@@drewgoin8849they poopy whitey tighties got me too. That was the scariest part of the whole film.
@@drewgoin8849 That was even worse
I can’t believe the sequel is better. This does not happen often but I was hooked. I wish I could’ve seen this in theatres.
What an experience that was, my wife and I were scared!!
I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would and a more than the first tbh. I’m curious if they make a 3rd how they will approach it and if it will come out as good
i just realised watching this video that the scene with the tv showing skai's first interview after the accident is in lewis' apartment (you can see the sword he later holds). Meaning that the demon is probably seeing this through lewis and seeks out skai to transfer to her.
I remember the demon telling sky towards the end of the movie that it had been waiting for someone like her for a long time, that’s why it replied with 🤩 when it texted her
Oh snap!! That makes total sense
But that doesnt make sense because SHE is the one who reaches out to Lewis. if she didnt reach out to him for drugs the demon wouldnt have been able to get her.
@@captainmarvelous7678I feel like Sky asking for the pills was a matter of WHEN she will text Lewis not IF she will text him. She was already getting pills from Lewis for her pain (text messages show August & September brief texts). While the demon was possessing Lewis, it probably saw this lovely pill problem Sky had and was just waiting patiently for her to text after seeing that interview.
Which goes with Sky’s problem with asking/getting the proper help and support system she needs for her mental health. If Sky was more honest about her pill addiction, that could’ve prevented her from contacting Lewis in the first place. I know from personal experiences with my mental health that it can be hard & feel embarrassing to ask for help. I’ve also had partners with drug addictions and learned the hard way: you can only help someone who is ready *AND* wants to be helped. Also, *THEY* have to want to get better for themselves before anyone else. Sky sadly wasn’t at that point and we just get to watch her journey 🫶🏽
@@captainmarvelous7678she reached out to Gemma to and then found out she never really reached out to her it was just the demon messing with her head. So when she text Lewis to meet him for drugs the demon could have also been messaging her posing as him when he sent the 🤩 cause when she showed up to his apartment he didn’t even remember responding to her to come over
From princess jasmine to possessed by a demon in a truly disturbing movie. I was really impressed by this horror flick.
The horde in the apartment was the creepiest thing I’ve seen in a long time
OMG GIRL it’s moments like that are the most terrifying in movies
I thought it was pretty laughable, wasn't creepy in the slightest lol
That shi was not even creepy/scary in the slightest, I’d died laughing seeing it💀 first movie was levels above this corny snoozefest
@@tpriceeesame
It was too goofy
27:17
I don't think that the message is that "mental health issues are unconquerable" but rather what can happen when those issues aren't conquered, ultimately leading to the nuclear outcome, suicide.
Suicide doesn't stop the pain, it just spreads grief which causes trauma in others, often those closest to them, resulting in the continuation of a vicious cycle.
In both this movie and its predecessor, both protagonists are surrounded by mostly well meaning but misguided friends and family who don't believe what they're going through, resulting in further and further mental and social isolation until eventually it's too late.
The demon is representative of that feeling of losing control and doing something you wouldn't do, something drastic, something that isn't you.
I do believe there is a way to defeat the demon, I just don't think the right people were there at the right time to figure it out.
incredible take.
@@tiffanyramos9763Not really. Skye never told anyone what she was going through. So who was surrounded by that didn't believe her? Also, how is that the message when the people aren't actually taking their lives, but instead being forced to?
Why is mental health even being brought up in the first place?
@@DavidKen878 Mental health is being brought up because the first appearance of the "trauma demon" was in the first movie with the psychologist as an analogy to her mentally ill mother. The mother was fighting her "inner demons" figuratively while the main character was fighting a demon literally. Which is why it made sense that by acknowledging your trauma and not running or fighting it you would strip the demon of its power over you rendering it beatable. And then the movie shat all over that message because it was a horror movie and needed to be open to a sequel so the demon was actually unbeatable all along and everything was an illusion. This could be interpreted as "mental health issues can't be beaten and eventually win" because the parallels were between the demon and the mother's mental illness.
@ It was an analogy to her mother? I read an interview where Parker Finn explain the message of the movie and this interpretation is way off from what he said. Rose's mother wasn't fighting anything. She wasn't even alive during the movie. You're definitely reading wayyyy too much into it and
lol Let people believe what they wanna believe! Not that serious 💗
I was physically HIDING from the screen during this one.
I haven’t done that before or since.
You 10? lol
It was scary fr
@@windycitywarrior71yeah yeah we get it, you’re a big brave person that’s different from the rest and this is movie is mere child’s play to you because of how unfazed you are right? 😐
I loved this movie. Naomi did amazing as the lead and then the cinematography was so good the upside down transitions. Chefs kiss
This movie hit me on a more personal level than I was anticipating, Perhaps one of my favorite movie of the year by far and the usage of sound in this movie was truly gnarly 😅
I think that’s what’s great about the movie. It’s the horror of not finding a cure to your issues or a cope. I think that’s fine to have a movie like that. It cements the horror by making you think there’s no way to win.
Yeah I got really confused about what you said with the rules being bent in the beginning....iirc In the first one, The protagonist visits a guy who tells her the only way to save herself from the curse is to commit a murder in front of a witness. Which is why he was trying to murder the gang member in front of the other one. But since Lewis witnessed the two murders then he would be the new host.
I think Getting run over by the truck was just bad luck on his part. Nothing to do with the smile Demon /curse
That also explains why he ran away from the other gang members. He knew the curse had been passed.
My question is how did the cop find out about how to beat the curse if the protagonist didn't want to tell him what the guy in jail told her.
@KevinLopez-hz9zc Good point. Didn't even think about that
@@KevinLopez-hz9zc True I actually wonder as well since it was only a week after Rose's death he would have to have dug deeper extremely quick to find that out but I guess we'll never know how he realized it.
Edit: I do think since he was the one to figure out that a person survived the smile demon and passed it on to another, he probably checked that same person's records and pieced together the fact that he killed a person in front of a witness and that witness became the new host and probably assumed that was the only way to get rid of it but that's just my guess.
This video was uploaded immediately after i finished watching the movie. Found Flix watching me like the smile demon
REAL lmaooiooo
That thumbnail is the stuff of nightmares 🫣
2:20 the prison scene in the first smile told us that if you murder someone violently in front of someone it will pass the curse it’s a trauma demon if you willing traumatize someone else it’ll let you go the reincarnation truck was just doing its job completely separate from the curse it self just bad luck
So cool to see the GAGA contact on her phone after Naomi said she was one of the main references when building Skye.
it feels illegal to see this so early, love the videos
Its on streaming now
A big part of the story is what was real and what wasn't. If the conversation about not wearing the dress never happened, then this demon's mind control is so complete (even early in the infection) it's damn near unbeatable. Apparently in her mind's eye she's saying and doing all this stuff, but in the real world she's still presenting as ... sane and agreeable? To her she's driving an SUV with glass in her foot, but in the real world she's getting ready for a concert?? I think one issue with this demon is it's too powerful, which boomerangs into lowering the stakes. You know it can't be beaten, so now you're just watching it do its thing and claim a victim.
Yeah I agree it’s pretty impossible to win against, but maybe a suicide pact or something could beat it? Or like a Romeo and Juliet ending type of situation.
You nailed my feelings about the whole thing. Not a bad movie at all, but when the demon can make you see hear do anything it wants, and there’s no way for the protagonist to win, all of the dramatic tension is gone and it hurts the plot
I think it could manipulate Skue so much because she had extreme and fresh trauma. In Smile 1 she had trauma from when she was 10 years old (likely over 20 yrs old since she was a psychiatrist) while Skye's trauma is 1 year old.
Joel was a cop and has likely seen some sht so he has a strong will and resistance. Thats why he could still plan and execute the opening scene on day 6. Thats my headcanon though
Maybe it was extra brutal and controlling of Skye because she had addiction and serious mental health issues.
@@oliviav.3565 It's a possibility, but doesn't change the main problem being if the main character has no way whatsoever to make it, what it the incentive to watch?
I think the ending signifies less that "mental illness isn't possible to overcome" but more so that yeah, the people around her really failed her. I think it's a running theme for both movies but a lot more in this one. She's clearly not well, everyone around her knows she has a bad past with taking care of herself when things get bad and instead of listening to her, they just force her to continue on.
Like Rose in the first movie, and Skye now, both of their occupations consume them and their mental health, Rose in the first one putting it more on herself, and Skye being forced by the people around her to continue overworking herself.
So basically everything after the entity puts in hand in her mouth, it was all one big hallucination?
Basically yeah
I think it’s way before, because gemma and her reconciliation happened way before and even before her costume thing.
Most of the movie right after she sees her drug dealer die isn’t real. The demon does let her pop back into her life occasionally though like at her performance rehearsal and seeing the guy at the bar just to give her hope so it can take it away from her.
I think she hallucinated from the moment she wanted to refuse the costume that she had on at the end scene. Or when the dancer stuck his arm in her throat. She was adamant about not wearing thst costume but everything indicates that was a hallucination so I think the demon took her on autopilot from there on
That’s what I thought
Smile 2 was soo good. It was times I forgot I was watching a horror movie cause the choreography, music was actually fantastic. I can't wait for It Follows 2
It follows is getting a sequel?
Talk about a movie that had me on the edge. Jesus I can’t believe they’re making another one
menacing it is
I hope for It Follows 2 they don't touch the characters of the first movie. Make it new characters, new setting, and its own story. The ending of the first one was perfectly ambiguous for the characters and ended the movie well. I hope they don't do a cold open where Jay dies or something. Too much time has past and the actors are way older now too, so it wouldn't make too much sense in that way as well. Unless they figured out a way to get rid of " it" but that's kinda lame imo
This isn’t an “ending explained” this is a whole summary and review.
he's new to the channel
You must be new here
It passed to Lewis because he watched him kill the drug dealer brutally haha Joel was actually free from the curse since he brutally infected someone else by committing murder with a witness… which makes him getting obliterated by a truck a mere few seconds into his freedom THAT MUCH WORSE 😅😅
Thank you FloundFlix, with that thumbnail I wasn't planning on sleeping anyways!
That thumbnail was absolutely deadly horrifying.
The smile demon and freddy kruger have to be buddies the way it plays with its victims minds is crazy
If I'm being honest the moment they said she was a pip star. And considering how the curse is spread I knew how the ending would go
Same. I've seen a lot of horror movies. 😂
@20:00 they weren't smiling fans; they're her backing dancers!
Yeah i can't believe he missed that detail. That's why they move so theatrically, and they're attack mimics the dance practice routine from earlier in the film.
Its like he barely has seen the movie. Maybe he sent someone else to write a script thst he just reads because he made so many mistakes ik this video.
Came to the comments looking for this. IMO it’s the creepiest scene in the movie. Beautiful.
Well, I have binged your content for the past three days. Now I am not afraid of anything. Thank you.
Id love to see more horror movies where the main character actually tells people what they feel, see, and are going through instead of just saying something like "I feel like I'm going crazy".
Or Someone that's totally freaked out but calms down quickly, is more inquisitive about it, a "smart solver" type, and works/experiments to solve the problem more.
I would also love to see the next movie actually come out for once when the situation potentially affects more of the world.
Just particular tropes I feel like I still see way too much.
“Gemma hates you Skye scene” sent me to the stars 🗣️🗣️🗣️
man I remember when Naomi Scott was in Lemonade Mouth 😭 it's wild that I was first introduced to her in elementary school and now I'm a horror fan and I get to see her kick ass in a great horror movie
Ngl I've watched this film 4 times and this has to be the first episode of @FoundFlix I'm disappointed in. Were y'all even paying attention?
Lewis gained the Smile demon after Joel killed the gang members IN FRONT OF HIM. Lewis witnessed THAT, end of discussion. No rule change, just not paying attention for some strange reason.
The people in her closet/apartment were NOT fans, they were all of her backup dancers. (Y'all even said "twisted choreography" not 45 seconds later and still stuck with "fans" for your final edit)
"Dehydrated how?!" she may have never actually BEEN hydrating in every cut we see of her drinking since she was already infected with the Smile Demon, it's "draining her" in more ways than one hence the concept of the hallucinations.
Almost everything past Lewis' death is VERY LIKELY hallucinations INCLUDING Morris. (yes this would mean almost the entire movie)
Which explains why Skye is transported DIRECTLY to the concert from the freezer at the end. The Smile demon has been messing with her the ENTIRE TIME.
With both movies, I think it's safe to say, it's an entity of "eff you I do what I want" giving its' victims false hope in finding a way out while feeding on their emotional dread and fear throughout. And while it CAN be "stopped" The Smile Demon refuses to allow that because it has the power to do so in self-preservation. Skye's cycle is just a LOT easier to SEE when the switch from reality to hallucinations begin ESPECIALLY if you watch it again.
Damn, you hit him with the Cinema Sins corrections.😂
You have done a better job explaining the movie than this entire foundflix video 😂👍
I loved this movie and was excited to see the ending explained, but I was disappointed by the lack of… accuracy, detail, and care compared to other reviews for this movie.
And let me say I grew up on foundflix, but this review falls short
If morris was a hallucination why give us a flashback jump scare of his brother screwing up his jaw. They should have just went along with a scene of him injecting skye as opposed to throwing it away and suddenly skipping to the concert.
The old lady taking that table spot was peak '99 ECW.
6:03 that’s a Cheshire Cat smile. Which is funny because this actor played the Cat King in Dead Boy Detectives
I think jole’s death was more for the audience, he was able to pass on the curse but him dying by the truck is to give the audience the feeling that this curse isn’t escapable, even if he didn’t die he would have to live with watching Rose dying and killing the guy AND knowing he passed it on to somebody, this curse is unbeatable in every sense
That thumbnail... I don't need sleep anyway
Parker Finn improved from the last film 10000%! The gore, sound track, characters and cinematography was chefs kiss! Every-time the camera angle starting rotating upside down it just got darker and darker
I think it would be insane to see how this played out from someone else’s perspective like her mom or something like makes me really wonder what was real, what wasn’t, and generally how this all played out outside of skyes perspective
Can we all appreciate how Real Gemma is for immediately grabbing a weapon to help after not seeing her friend for years 😂😂
I love the concept of this franchise however I have to agree with it's attitude toward mental health being rather callous, though one could argue that's the intention as those suffering would feel this hopelessness and the public at large, particularly in America, disregard mental heatlh - thus establishing a basis for why it is so ruthless in it's delivery.
I dunno, I’ve read an interview by the director from after the first one came out, and he seemed rather blasé about the idea, saying stuff like, “Yeah, it doesn’t always end well” in regards to mental health. His argument was that the outcome was more “realistic” than the happy ending most would want, and he just sounded like a pretentious douchebag throughout. So yeah, in this case the callousness of the art reflects the callousness of the artist. I was boiling so hard reading that interview that I wanted him to be liable for any deaths his message caused, however “unrealistic” that desire is.
@@xanderfloyd2656 I can't say I've seen anything of that sort, but if that is the case I can only say I pity him fot the lack of foresight that attitude comes with.
Sigh. If a movie is enough to make you give up bettering your mental illness you wouldnt have overcome it anyways. If you are at such a low point then don't watch movies specifically about a trauma monster, doh.
@@xanderfloyd2656I mean, he’s right. Maybe instead of being angry at the director for portraying a common outcome of mental health issues, we should actually try to address the circumstances that bring people to that point. For every one person who made it out, there are countless others who never did. It happened to my mom.
@@chickensalad3535 yeah, you got a point. My emotions were running high when I wrote that, so I probably wasn't being super-charitable, but I agree now that we should focus on making mental health care better. I don't see it happening in the US for the next few years, but maybe in 2029 we can start working on it.
Something I noticed in the beginning is that the POV is from someone watching Skye on TV. I think the Smile demon was watching her through Lewis & was already devising a plan to possess her. Especially since we see that same TV with the GameCube set up in his apartment later.
for those wondering, the raycon ad ends at about 18:26 if you are truly that desperate not to watch them
The fact that Gemma wasn’t even real. The fact that it was all in her head and Gemma still hates her is what messed me up the most.
You are so foul for picking THAT for your thumbnail. My butt clenched so hard when this popped up💀💀💀
Joel at the beginning of the movie had one of the dumbest plans ever to pass the curse on. Bro went about that situation horribly wrong and he could’ve been fine if he had any sort of plan lol, but the demon probably messed his brain up to the point of no return.
Also, the way this movie ends there’s no way that it’s not some apocalyptic type of situation from how many people the demon reaches. Very interested to see how it plays out.
Those were her backup dancers that did the "interpretive dance." I also believe that guy sticking his hand down her throat marks the moment where everything from then on is not real. The best friend coming over was fake as well. I think only the initial text was real.
On the 20:05
Mane, Jack Nicholson’s son looked just liked him when smiling. Spooky.
19:27 the writing on the booth. Nice touch
Glad I'm not the only one who thought the entity looked bigger in Smile 2
all i got to say is out of all horror scenes you chose the eyeballs to be the thunbnail..
27:14 thank you for pointing that out it agitates me because the first and second movie the ending might as well say you can’t beat your mental illness and be better
You can but the odds are definitely against you. Takes decades of work and willpower. Of course most people will never handle it
@@pristinegarbagesir2997 I kind of agree, that’s the real horror. It’s the horror of reality.
Right I hate the movies cause everyone knows you can solve your mental issues in a week, totally unrealistic
If watching a horror movie is enough to make you give up hope of beating your mental illness, you never would have beat it in the first place. Anyone with Skye's symptoms in real life would be a paranoid schizophrenic with all other major mental illnesses stacked on top, so you would be too far gone to help anyways in that situation.
I have seen several comments like yours on other Smile 2 videos and you need to grow a friggin backbone. It's not a movie's responsibility to coddle you and make YOU work on YOUR mental illness.
@@LetHimReadI agree with your general sentiment but your comment comes across as really callous and frankly gross
hats off to everyone. Smile 2 is now one of my favorite movies of all-time. I could only imagine where Smile 3 (which is comfirmed to start filming in 2025) goes from here. I would more than happy if they just decide to give it the horror movie sequel treatment and make like 10 of these Smile movies. I'll be there for all of them.
There were points in this movie, at the theaters, where I asked myself, ‘am I allowed to get up and leave?’ Not because the movie was bad, but because I was so scared/the movie gave me such anxiety. Great film!!
I rented this movie at home and felt the same way sitting in my own living room! God the suspense was crazy! But btw yes it is perfectly okay and acceptable to leave in the middle of a movie for any reason. I was so pleasantly surprised by how well this movie was filmed and written. great sequal for the original which i also loved!
@ I told some folks, Smile 1 and 2 are like Alien to Aliens
This was literally my favorite movie of the year and the year was pretty decent.
The fact the thing text her from Lewis phone ment what it had planned for her started before her infection.. to a degree, it shows it knew her mind before it even had a grip on it.
Had an interesting conversation with a psychologist about the first movie. They said the movie had dangerous subliminal messaging about not being able to escape your trauma and it’ll always have power over you
Yeah
In all my Horror/Thriller surfing days, Smile and its sequel are some of the most terrifying concepts I've ever seen. Not just because of the tragic deaths for all involved, but their helplessness and the demon's overwhelming strength in comparison to them, its victims. It's like a lion in a meerkat den just feasting and killing as it pleases with no hope of being defeated. On paper you think, "Yes, that's what I want the villain to be", but as it plays out in these two films it's just the most crushing thing that could very well depress any who watch it hoping for a silver lining or comeback from the 'Forces of Good'. But there are none--only dead people.
Gosh.. I´ve been trying to get that single shot you used for thumbnail out of my nightmare fuel closet for weeks.. Thanks for bringing it back.
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The ending had me thinking about Morris. Was he even real, and did he actually wanted to help? Or was he just a distraction or "mirage" created by the being to make her think there was a way to stop it? It's probably a dumb question, but I had to ask.
Not a dumb question at all. I’d like to know the answer to that as well.
I think Morris was real at least the initial meeting with him at the bar where he gave her some background info into the demon. Everything after that was a concocted hallucination.
CAUGHT THAT NOTIFICATION IMMEDIATELY!!
Same haha
@@fl4meing219same here! Greetings from Germany
So fast!
Proud of u
Same here
well that was the most terrifying thumbnail this month possibly this year
THANK YOU for the critique at the end about the Smile movies (and a lot of horror movies in general really) centering on mental illness but almost always giving the mentally ill characters a horrible fate, as if there’s no hope for people that are struggling. It’s a really over-used trope that honestly needs to go away.
i need you to know it’s 1am and i can’t sleep now because that thumbnail was the first damn thing i saw when i opened this app to look for a video to lull me to sleep
So, in the beginning, Joel guts that mobster in front of his brother, and then the brother gets shot in the neck and bleeds out. If the young kid wasn't there to witness it and Joel was able to escape, would he be free of the demon? Would the demon just jump into the traumatized, shot brother and then die as the brother dies?
Umm that's a good question if Lewis wasn't there then maybe it could have transferred to him. But maybe there's rules to it like it takes a while so since he died almost immediately after their could have been not enough time. And since it's not the original seeing someone commits suicide than it could be different rules as well
@@anthonyogden9762Lewis witnessed Joel murdering the two mobsters the entire time so the curse did in fact get passed on to Lewis since he was the only person in the room who witnessed the murders. No rules got bent or anything. Joel getting hit by the truck was just bad luck.
@@chriswelter3859 I know I'm aware of that I was just saying if Lewis wasn't there how would that go down? Did the guy immediately get the curse after seeing his brother gets stabbed and then when he died at the cursed guy with him or would it go back to Joel? That's all I was wondering
@@SSJBlueVegitoYeah we all saw the movie. I was putting out a hypothetical. If Lewis hadn't been there to witness the whole scene, what would have happened? It's safe to say that the brother had already been traumatized.By scene his sibling get gutted by joel, but then he died of a gunshot wound immediately after. Is Lewis hadn't been there, and the demon had jumped into that brother that got shot, would the demon then die? Or would it just revert back to Joel?
@@anthonyogden9762 If Lewis wasn’t there then the curse would have just went back to Joel.
She did a really good job in this movie for sure ❤
Wow, the timing on this... just watched the movie couple mins ago.
Same, I just watched it with my mom yesterday
Same here, great movie.
This was like the Terminator 2 or Aliens of Smile when it comes to a sequel.
I always thought that she did put her foot down about the outfit but because the demon was in so much control towards the end, that it made her agree to wearing it, just to further torture her
I really think you were wrong on one point my friend. Right at the beginning, when you explain Joel's death... There wasn't any forcing as you say. Lewis saw Joel violently kill another person (2 actually), so at that moment Joel was freed, (he explains clearly how the only survivor of the curse works in the first Smile, the man in prison) so the curse was passed on to Lewis. Then Joel dies while running away, but not because of the demon (or whatever it is), in fact Joel, if he hadn't been hit by the truck, would be free and safe, the fact that he dies anyway is due to a tragic coincidence, which serves to give greater impact to the story, and make the entire opening scene surprising and adrenaline-like
I wanna see where the 3rd one goes. Like will it become so widespread that the government gets involved? Inb4 the president gets it and then does a press conference televised to the entire planet at the end of the movie.
Probably will have to wait after avengers doomsday for it's sequel, Avengers smile.
"Gives her a startle -RAYCON"
It feels like it’s written by someone with mental illnesses. As someone with mental illness I like this cause there is no escaping it it’s with you your whole life no matter what you do it’s always there waiting for you to slip
1:21 it’s not mentioned particularly in the first minutes of the video but I read somewhere that the hallucination (person lit on fire) he saw was Rose (the protagonist) of the first film.
As always, excellent video. 👏🏻
If this thing was a scp I think the only why to contain it would be to keep the host alive and restrained from self deleting
Edit: I think its object class would be Keter
Darius shows up 💐...
"What are you doing? Think about the tour..."
To Skye...
"Fuuuunk da' tour!!!!" -I'm dying 😂
Well. I found it as scary as the first movie. My only problem was the increase in blood and gore. That's not what I'm in to.
The thing about the mental health angle is that both characters didn't deal with their trauma, so it destroyed them and hurt others. I bet that if it infects someone who has truly dealt with their trauma, it would lose. However, the monster is strong, it probably would give the victim NEW trauma and feed off of that.
Jesus Christ dude, the thumbnail was a nightmare to see as I’m getting into bed 😭. Great video though!
9:21 I know the movie wants me to take the smiling little girl seriously, but she just keeps giving that "I like the Wizard of Oz" kid from A Christmas Story 🤣
Maybe the saving grace for the people in the third movie will be the fact that there is now a unified front of people suffering together? That could be the overarching "moral" (if one could be found) relating to the mental health metaphor. And within the movie's canon, the smile demon seems to go for one person at a time. Could that be it's weakness? Perhaps it might be more vulnerable in the third film as a result of spreading itself too thin, trying to go after all victime but unable to succeed as it has lost the advantage of an isolated single target.
And that strength in numbers it can finally be defeated ❤
That's what I was thinking.
What if the demon discovers that it simply cannot infect all of those people at once with any severity?
Basically watering down it's affect.
Why does it need a happy ending? It’s a horror movie about a demon who takes over people’s minds. Why does there need to be some deeper message about anything? Lol it’s supposed to be scary not a fuckin pepsi commercial about coming together
Anyone else noticed her outfit at the final scene is like a butterfly and the smile demon comes out of her like she's a cocoon
Literally the most horrifying thumbnail I've ever seen.
I really really loved the first SMILE, I felt it was probably one of the best thriller/suspense movies ever for the first 2/3ds of the movie, and then it felt like they didn't really know how to wrap it up. SMILE 2 didn't have this problem, and kept that anxiety active the entire way, I felt exhausted by the end but in a good way and ultimately dreading the aftermath of the final scene.
Nice! Been waiting for this one!
It is actually wild how little of an explanation of the ending it is possible to offer in a video called “ending explained.”
innit lol