Through all these years of astrology podcasts and talks, this is by far the most valuable I've ever listened to. You took this to another level Christopher, and made someone with this placement cry, I hope that speaks for itself. Thank you a thousand times
I was just thinking how he is one of the few people who can get through to my emotions when I'm usually just cold-hearted as a defense mechanism but also genuinely just stoic and not very expressive lol This was very inspiring and can make a huge difference in how we move forward. I'm finishing my first Saturn return as he moves out of Aquarius and one thing I learned that Chris also helps me remember is that yes logic is great but logic is one of the things that makes his "reasoning" beings but so do our feelings and emotions. Tapping into them has been scary AF but so liberating!
I agree, as one with Saturn in the 12 native, I have struggled to understand this relationship. Every one of your talks opens a new door of understanding. This one in particular was like a light was turned on. I now understand my draw toward working in hospice and teaching yoga to those in recovery and so much more. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom
Christopher is my Sabbath! He truly makes me a better person ! A glass of wine and a hour listening to my favorite Renaissance man on Sunday is Nirvana!
@@mercedesfoster8257 I'm so glad that you found this week's episode helpful. The two occupations that you mention are very in keeping with Saturn in the 12th. ☺
Christopher is unequaled to any other astrologer on the Internet and my Sunday is simply not complete without him. With the added bonus of Always being guaranteed to learn some thing about astrology that could have taken a life time of study to learn. I’m simply amazed by this man and his gift of storytelling that is always thought provoking. You make us a better person. A true renaissance man if there ever was!
My dad has Saturn in Pisces and this describes him so well. He was having a cardiac stress test, which. is given in several stages. He was in the waiting area to go back in for the next stage and I asked him how the last stage had gone because he looked terrible. He said it had been pretty uncomfortable. I said "Oh I'm sorry you're going through this" and he practically spat at ne "I don't need your pity!" So I shook my head and went back out to run some errands. Right after that, the doctor had to call an ambulance to take him for an emergency heart cath. He is fine now but this experience has helped him accept help. I don't consider him a burden, but his fear of being a burden or a victim certainly makes him difficult to help or care for!
What you say is SO true! It's hard for people with Saturn in Pisces to express pain. He's very lucky to have a child who's as sensitive and caring as you. 😊
Everything you said is so 100% true about Saturn in Pisces ♓️ . Eye opener for me as I have this aspect in my natal chart. I am so thankful 🙏🏼❤️to you for explaining the not wanting to listen to victimization from others or expressing it yourself. I will from now on try to express my pain to people I am close to. It will bring me so much relief.
Baby Left at the Church Door Syndrome... Oh my, Christopher, this hits so close to home for me. Literally. My dear, late grandmother was sent to live in a convent at age 8, during a time of financial hardship for her family. They were in turn compensated financially by the church. She remained in the convent until age 23, when she requested exit so that she may honor God's calling to become a wife and a mother. As long as I've known her, she has battled the demons of abandonment, and fear of rejection. Hardships of any kind- financial, emotional, etc- would push her into a dark pit of coping mechanisms... which of course, sprayed from her like buckshot- piercing innocent bystanders (us). Due to these behaviors, which were indeed toxic, most of my family gifted her her worst fear- they cut ties with her and she died mostly alone. I think that because i was able to see *through* her coping mechanisms and into the *root* of her behaviors, I was never as compelled to cut ties. My heart is still broken knowing the pain and absolute betrayal she had to endure from her own family and also from what should have been the epitome of a safe space- the church. Ugh. I'm now in tears, wondering why I've rambled on so to strangers on the internet... but instead of deleting, I'm going to be brave and hit enter. Not even sure why. 🖤
If someone is in pain, they are (consciously or not) asking for empathy or assistance. And Saturn being limits in Pisces which is all about universal love means someone who is restricted or constricted where they otherwise could or should be empathetic and caring. Christopher’s wise words that the Saturn in Pisces person is a victim mentality, in other words: someone with woundedness that needs to be looked at. And when the victim person looks at his own hurts, and reaches out to help another, he also heals himself through the connection and care.
I don't know if this counts as a prison or not, and how it would relate to the natal chart, but an abusive childhood can certainly feel like a prison... that's what came up for me when he described the 12th house... Love these horoscopes Christopher puts together. They are so well illustrated!
Wow, thank you so much Christopher, my concept of Saturn has been transformed! My childhood was so traumatic that I didn’t remember it til after my 1st Saturn return. It’s been tough. I hadn’t recognised Saturn as a friend until right now, cos: in my most difficult moments when small, I had a sense of a profoundly loving protective energy that enfolded and contained my innermost being and kept my soul safe, despite what my body endured. Your description of Saturn in Pisces exactly describes that energy - and now I see that it is Saturn who has been my greatest friend, protector and benefactor!!! 💗 Huge thanks 🙏🏼 Sun/Saturn/Chiron in Pisces(opp Virgo Pluto/Uranus & sq Gemini Jupiter)
Similar placements to my husband... I have to share this insight of yours with him when he wakes up because I think the way you worded it so eloquently would resonate well with him!
Man, did this resonate! Having Saturn in Pisces, I am independent to a fault (and therefore have trouble connecting). My attitude of not accepting help has led to people no longer offering. Seems so clear now! Thx
Thank you Christopher...I love your depth. I have venus in Scorpio in the 12th house. Needless to say everything is deep for me...even what others are projecting into the world and do not belong to me. Spiritual practices that allow me to have good boundaries with others including the divine are essential to my path in this lifetime.
God that was great thanks for mentioning being raised by Grandparents and the feeling of not being a burden to othere and wow pain and how we cope with that within and with others xxxxx BEAUTIFUL
This message was very enlightening for me. I am a natal Saturn in Pisces getting ready for my 2nd Saturn return. I cannot believe how this describes me and my whole life patterns!!! Wow. I understand myself a lot better. You are truly amazing!!!
@@jitenderpaldhillon1633 Since you found Christopher and astrology, ask your guides and ask angels to help you. They will help you find what you need to hear. Don’t forget you are strong and loved. Good luck! I have many family members with Saturn in Pisces, plus a lot of people are ‘feeling’ the transit. You are not alone. ❤
Thank you Christopher for this wonderful gift! I was born with Saturn in Pisces and never have fully wrapped my head around it . When you said "the baby left on the church steps", you unlocked a door for me. I have always had that feeling of something beingwrong with me, of being abandoned or left behind. Your explanation made so much sense and helped me to piece together more than a few [puzzle pieces. Of course, I also have Chiron nearby Saturn to add to the wounding. My Saturn opposition was a walk through he'll, but I am feeling very optimistic about my saturn return. Thank you again!
I love how you explain Saturn in Pisces. It helps me better understand both Saturn and Pisces. And it is really true, the feeling of being in the same boat really does bring us closer together. Thank you!❤
people with Pisces placements, sun, moon, rising and Saturn in Pisces need to get to the ocean always but especially during this time to earth/ground yourself. Protect and take care of your feet.
Hearing your voice is ultimate comfort and self care for me. This is just fantastic. Whenever you talk about Saturn especially is just wonderful. I think because mythology is so important for my foundations of learning and it's not a part of Hellenistic which I'm officially studying. Saturn has certainly given me an extremely strong test. But my favourite. My most respected. And he IS, in my mind, the hermit card in the mythic tarot which I've had for 25 years, from the age of 12.
I'm so glad that you enjoy getting to know Saturn. He has such a long and rich history. I think he may very well be the most complex of all the planets. 😊
No wonder i always feel more peace and joy in our sea temple here in our island since new year start spend more time in this temple more than other temples and today is our first day of our full moon ceremony too here, thank you for all your knowledge that you share for us here 🙏🙏🙏 rahajeng rahina purnima 🙏
I love the point on the dual-sides in(all) the planets! I have Saturn in Pisces, and your points are duly noted and being worked upon. It's a matter of not being stuck in the extremes of the dual sides of the planet and placement: be open, but also be mindful of people's (real) intentions. Another spot-on discussion! Thank you, again, Christopher! 🤔
As always Christopher offers a deeper insightful sensitivity. This was an amazing teaching on Saturn in Pisces & the 12th House. So good i listened twice.
You’ve done it again, Christopher. Blown my mind with your story telling. I learn so much this way. I’m able to absorb the message so much easier as it’s not so heady. I bet Saturn was a good story teller too. I have deep reverence for Saturn, probably because I’m a Cap rising. Oh, you begun the talk with the metaphor of a Lighthouse. I have to tell you this story…my father was a Capricorn /Aquarius Sun cusp. His birthday was 20th January. He wasn’t a great lover of people, especially in his elder years. One of the things he would often say is that he would be much happier living alone in a Lighthouse with no one around him, except his dog. Well, he kinda got his wish. He was in his 80’s when my mother left him, all my siblings lived in another state and so it was really on me that he had contact with. He was one of those that found it almost impossible to except help or advice from anyone. And so he became quite lonely. He didn’t want anyone else but Mum, but she was never going to return. Quite sad for him. Anyhoo, at the end of his life, in palliative care in Hospital, I was stunned to see a beautiful framed photo of a Lighthouse on the wall of his room. I thought right there…wow you got your wish. A self fulfilling prophecy of sorts don’t you think? Thankyou Christopher, this one really hit home for me. 🥰🙏🏻
This is amazing. So much great insight. Grandmother left on a doorstep as a baby, went on to have 8 children, 21 grandchildren and 30 great-grandchildren (thus far). So many themes you mention apply here. Namaste.
Thank you Chris for every Sunday story time!! I listened to you doing homework today. Sometimes im cooking or cleaning while listening too, or just relaxing and smoking. I look forward to next Sunday which is my birthday. I wonder what story you'll have for me✨️💛🌈
Stars FOREVER?! I love this name! Especially thinking about how physics itself has been determining we are made of stardust and so when we return to the other parts of the cosmos we're.. "ashes to ashes dust to dust" maybe that's STARdust not just...mud? In the meantime we're trans-dust while walking around in our human meat suits. Hahahaha. Seriously, happy birthday my fellow water sign. I love Pisces. One of my cats is a Friday the 13th Pisces. Baby Amy Tail Interrupted. 🐈⬛🐟 ☀️ 🦂 🌙 🦀 ASC ... My little spooky baby cat. She's very mystical and my moon is conjunct her ASC her moon conjunct my Sun. Have a lovely solar return! 🌞 🎂 🎉
Thank you for linking Saturn with self fulfilling prophecy that was very helpful to visualise. I actually had a very literal experience of Saturn at the anaretic degree of Aquarius moving through my 12th house also conjunct mercury in Pisces where my neighbour crossed the border of his land (naively and illegally!) into mine and cut down a tree on my property. It took me a few days to recover from what I experienced as a violation and I certainly felt like a victim. I see the impact of Pisces/12th house on Saturn as something that potentially weakens Saturn’s ability to stand guard between worlds borders or between property lines in my case. Thank you again for your exquisite detail ❤
Dearest Christopher, you are spot on about Saturn in the 12th house. In our family there is a history of alcoholism and 'Chronos' illness. I've got a stellium in my 12th♓🤔 with saturn, my moon and chiron. I'm still learning to live a very healthy lifestyle and i'm making positive progress. With small steps but i feel better than ever. And doinf my own shadow work of asking myself what is this triggering in me, helps me to get more balanced and be kinder to people, have more understanding for their sorrow and pain. Thank you🙏thank you 🙏thank you🙏 my favourite astrologer🙌 for taking us with you in this incredible journey called life. You explain it so beautifully👑✨🪐🌞🌝🏆
Trauma is according to experts stored in the vegus nerve which runs through the whole body. So you can recover your brain but your body keeps that stored so it would make sense that it is stored in our DNA. A book that explores this is, The body keeps score"
Thank you, Christopher. I have Saturn, Moon, and Chiron in Pisces in the 2nd house. I'm also going through my 2nd Saturn return. Ugh. Well, this explains why I have felt unwanted throughout my life. When I have expressed my emotions, I have been laughed at or yelled at. Not fun. I just go within.
I totally get it Alisa. No one wants to be laughed at or yelled at when they're expressing their feelings. I hope that this second Saturn return will bring a release from that cycle. It's often what second Saturn returns do. 😊
@@christopherrenstromastro Thank you. It looks like Saturn return in Pisces will be bringing 6 inches of rain tonight. I got a CodeRed from the county to be prepared for flooding. Yikes!
Wow I'm sitting here wondering about my second Saturn return which is just days away. I'm a professional astrologer but also work in the healing arts in various modalities. My business tagline is Be a lighthouse. For yourself and others. Saturn is the only planet in above the horizon in my chart. I have strong feelings about what this placement really means and I felt SEEN. Thank you for this, I turned it on and felt so understood, it moved me to tears. Thank you, this soul hears you.
Wow! I'm almost through this but I have to say that the last part of pushing people away and then being hurt about people not paying attention to you really resonates with me 🥺. My Saturn is 5⁰ Pisces in my 4th. 2nd return will be in April (born in 1964). Thank you for this It has helped so much and I will definitely be watching it again.
You're delightfully brilliant, Christopher! And I love being a Pisces (sun)! I am comfortable with Saturn. My 12th house is Capricorn with my North Node and Chiron. Saturn in tbe 9th house in Scorpio. All ok with me. You are spot on about my husband's Saturn in Pisces in the 10th house. No father in his life; raised by grandparents (immature mother). He was very self reliant at a young age. Further, he cannot stand someone playing the victim!
the experience of persons with whom one thought might be of comfort in a time of crisis and loss...who further the pain by a hard response, or apparent glee at your suffering... is so bleak and shattering.
So interesting to have Saturn in Jupiter's house. Tests and reaching limits in the sign of the boundless. How much compassion do we have? Where do we lose boundary to a fault? Thank you Christopher - really love the friend or foe and attitude about planets - very helpful. I think Saturn can be very strengthening. Saturn as virtuous. Perfect.
Holy cow! Dear Christopher, ever since I began my journey in learning astrology 3 years ago, I wasn’t able to understand my Saturn in Pisces, in the first house😳, but you created such a clear picture of storytelling and examples that allowed me to see what this placement means. It breaks my heart to hear about the baby left at the church syndrome as not only do I have this placement but my daughter does, my husband and my friends. You have opened the door to my understanding and I hope to help my loved ones understand as well. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! Interesting to hear the number 7 associated with Saturn as it’s my favorite number and with my ascendant in Aquarius and natal Saturn also in my first house as well, he’s a big part of my life! You’re amazing Christopher❤️🥰❤️🤩
I"m so glad that you enjoyed this week's episode on Saturn in Pisces. I know it must be heartbreaking to think of the placement in the charts of so many people you know, but think of the common bond this creates among all of you. You really understand where the other person is coming from and that's always a wonderful thing. 😊
That was so beautifull, so profound. I really think you are a great master of the human understanding. Listening to you is a moving experience, a blessing. The relation with the expression of pain is indeed complicated. Years ago, I used to express pain with anger. Nowadays I still feel a little guilty and ashamed but I manage to express It. The result of doing so is being despised by some but It also allows others to express there vulnerability. Now I think there are moments to be strong but there are also some moments not to be strong in order to recognise our real feelings and be able to know ourselves. Thank you so much, Christopher!
Pain isn't easy to express because it's . . . painful. It's something many people don't want to be reminded of, but it's a signal flare of camaraderie to those who understand it. 😊
Listening again in June 2024 with Saturn Rx in Pisces. As always, learning so much from Christopher. I have Saturn in my natal 12th house(Libra, not Pisces).. I love, love love Christopher's description of Saturn as sanctuary. Over the the years Ive become accustomed to Saturn's tests, yet still appreciate Christopher's validation that good outcomes are possible, and depend on one's inner attitude. Yes, Charles Laughton was amazing as Quasimodo. Thank you Victor Hugo.❤
This has been a phenomenonal rendition and another side of Saturn in Pisces that I feel was personally ground breaking.... a complete eye opener. Thank you for your fantastic wisdom and insight and I will definitely remember the key principles during this Saturn transit. 🙏🏻
Most wonderful lesson ever❤️❤️❤️Like was directed to me,first I love Saturn and always understood it as planet that protects you(at least for me!),so nice the way you put it in words!Also, I really don’t like people that play the role of victim all the time,and I don’t allow myself to be a victim,don’t want anyone feeling sorry for me🤔Saturn in the first house would fit this description ?The best 12th house explanation!Thank you so much!Saving it to listen again 🙏
I have to say this is the best lecture I've ever listened to on saturn, pisces and the 12th house...I learned so much today and received so much hope and freedom...thank you from the bottom of my heart Chris!
oh my, I find this episode incredibly thought provoking. especially for me with Sun 12th Aquarius 0'14...I thank you Christopher Renstrom for this most ...see above!! blessings.....🙏🙏🙏
Fascinating! My family members fit this so well and tho I saw it, I didn’t 👀…now to figure how to alter the dynamic…will listen again! As always your examples are always eye opening! Thank you!❤
Absolutely loved this fantastic interpretation of Saturn in Pisces. I also enjoyed the brilliant examples from literature and Renaissance philosophy. This was a valuable episode and I learned so much. Really broadened and deepened my understanding of Saturn and the 12th house. Thank you. 🙏✨
Christopher, you are such a gift to this world. Your knowledge and wisdom of how to share something in a manner that allows us to use the information is something that inspires me to try to do the same! I’m always grateful for diving deep with you in your videos. Thank you.
What a profound way to explain such a freighting thing as Saturn in Pisces ♓️ for me (got it’s transit in my AC) and definitely recognize that resistance to people play victim and will reflect on my own capacity to express sadness and worries
Absolutely fantastic Christopher. So much clarification, so well explained. I’ve not heard such a revealing look at Saturn, ever. This is important to me as I have Saturn in Aquarius in my 12th house. Double challenge. Just completed my second Saturn return, only to have it enter my first 😅. The first Saturn return was challenging however at that age, I had no idea about astrology, but was not too perturbed! The late 80’s and Sydney Australia was in it’s prime! Not inclined to partake in it’s offerings during my 2nd 😉. As I listen, again, to your expose of Saturn with it in Pisces, my 1st house (6 planet stellium), all I can say is “happy Mardi Gras”!! Month long celebration starting in 2 days. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽✌🏽👍🏽😁
Thank you Christopher for such a rich exploration of Saturn in Pisces. Especially the contemplation of fellowship of pain and awakening of connection in compassion. You have enriched my 2nd Saturn return ❤
First time I had run across your channel 🤗❤️ This is Me! 😲Omg! I've never seen, heard or felt my life explained this way! Yes all 3 situations were in my life 🧬😲 Wow 🥺😳 Really Helpful Knowledge! Thank You for Just Being You ❤️ 🙏🏻 God Bless You 🤗🌻🌺🌼🌅
Deeply insightful and serendipitous as only it can be! In a rigorously mystical way that it resonates with me oddly enough as I interpret it personally and definitely on point, today's episode on Saturn in Pisces by the incomparable excellent Christopher Renstrom!
I have Pluto at 0° in my 12th house. I also have Saturn conjunct my Sun in the 4th house. I think I'm the only one of my 6 siblings that fully felt the heaviness and sadness my mother carried for having endured a childhood with an alcoholic father who would disappear and then reappear. When he was present, there was frequent if not constant discord, and plenty of shouting between her parents. I never even knew the details or the extent of it till I was in my 50's, and my aunt told me about it. My mother said very little about her past, and even though she raised us very differently, and had a good husband, I could see her underlying sadness, even when i was young. I don't know what she did exactly to make a home so improved for us, but she's gone now, and I'm impressed. It must have been very difficult for her to make a rather good life for us. I was there when she died of cancer at age 79, and her anxiety surfaced on her deathbed. She worried that she hadn't done enough good in her life and wanted to live longer and prove herself, mostly to God, even though she had been a faithful fundamentalist Christian. It makes me sad. I do spend most of my time alone when I'm not working.
Your mother sounds like a very strong and caring woman. How wonderful to have been raised by her. I'm sure she's found her peace with God. God bless her. 😊
I have natal Saturn in my 12th house and I’m a Pisces (my 2nd house)… finally an explanation for ancestral pain and issues. I need me a reading with my sun coming around 3/9…deep gratitude Christopher❤
Thank you for this!When you mentioned the light house I said to myself Christopher always delivers! I have Saturn in Pisces with a Pisces moon as well and I am a Capricorn rising so this transit i will surly feel on a physical and spiritual level . Transiting Saturn is right now triggering my Jupiter in the 12 house and opposing my mercury so triggering my T-square. As a child watching the hunchback of Notre Dame and I would wish that I could jump into the screen and hug Quasimodo! My Leo sun related to Esmeralda, put my Pisces related to Quasimodo lol. This video was amazing and you always do an amazing job! ❤❤❤❤❤
This is interesting at the end. My answer to people who play the victim and what bothers me about that is that they aren't tapping into their own soul, and recognizing the potential they have they gave up on. It also caused them to ignore people who crossed paths with them that provided opportunity or advice they didn't see because they were closed minded. But it isn't their fault, they grew up in an environment that influenced them that way..so as a Pisces my reaction isn't anger, it's trying to get their perspective on what causes them to feel that way. I love to open conversation with people about why they are who they are. Some people know exactly their reasons and what they experienced where they can spit it out right away, and others have the same reasons but they didn't really live it or blame others and they just put it on their backs to carry based on what others say or tell them, and because no one helped them know how to move forward..and instead of exploring who they really are they let others influence them .As a Pisces I empathize with everyone, literally think of a serial killer .. I don't feel bad for them however I feel intrigued to understand how they became that way in the first place. Now to try and relate to when you said to think about what bothers us when people says they are victims to dig deep and it's probably your own feeling of abandonment that was interesting..but what came to mind was how I feel when Oprah says shes oppressed, and that's a victim hood comment. I mean a female, black, billionaire. Perhaps she used to be but it bothers me when I ( as a Pisces)sees her portray this through current times and the victim hood makes me wonder why she doesn't speak about empowerment instead of victim hood. That is probably the answer to why those who feel like a victim with out actually being one happens. When they are listening to the doom and gloom from a billionaire or first lady or star basketball player it's normal to spread the hopelessness. I am hoping you can shed light on why that bothers me. ua-cam.com/video/zdRYP2azu2U/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts Lak Cunha. I like the way you open conversations with people about why they are who they are. I think it's something we could all learn from - including the people being asked. 🙂 I think the fact that people react to the word "victim" in so many different ways speaks to the deep chord it strikes in all of us. That's the conversation that Saturn in Pisces brings up by its transit and it's one we will all be wrapping our hearts and minds around in the next couple of years. 😊
I have Saturn in Pisces - 15°. My story fits the model of the child who was left alone much of the time, went to live with relatives for a period of time, AND at age 11, I overheard my mother laughing over coffee with a friend about how she tried to "douche me to death" when she found out she was pregnant with me. I wasn't feeling the love that day. BUT... I've become very comfortable with being alone, although I can get along just fine with other people. I'm very comfortable with who I am.
The most entertaining and intelligent astrologer on the UA-cam. This video is 100% accurate and hit me hard. Please could I request one for Saturn in cancer?
I subscribe to aspect tweets and this came through while listening to this: “9:51am EST: Moon in Virgo biquintile Pluto in Capricorn. Gifts of brilliance from the heavens. It's a great time to put what you've discovered into practice. Suddenly this feels a whole lot easier than it used to. 05°Vi38' D 29°Cp38' D”. You are SO gifted, thank you for this 🌸
Christopher just gets better with each episode! Incredible & so relatable. I learned so much applicable information!!! Thank you so much for this excellent & enjoyable talk. ❣️
Very beautiful, thought-provoking analysis. Astrology in a hole, completely new level. Not the usual new age crap. You must have a big library in your house.
❤️🧡💛💚💙💜💙💚💛🧡❤️ We are ALL the SAME PERSON experiencing life in a BUNCH OF DIFFERENT BODIES!!! which means that EVERY PERSON that you meet, is really just YOU...LIVING IN ANOTHER BODY!! you see..you are INTERACTING with YOURSELF at ALL TIMES!!! & once you understand this, you can achieve unity! 💜💙💚💛🧡❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
You have a gift ❤. This is very interesting, especially the bit about trauma being passed down. Pluto will transit my 12H and I am definitely working through some things.
Thank you for being the lighthouse that illuminates the signs creating more compassion towards each other. Worth listening to this a few more times. Fascinating as usual 💜 Additional point to sanctuaries ..Bedouin or nomadic tribes in the desert. Once one steps into their abodes, no harm can come to them and they would be treated with utmost respect. Nowadays it could include race or gender or any variety of outcasts finding refuge in more tolerant countries. In modern Israel The Shabbat is not as religiously observed..maybe we could go back and adopt the wisdom of the ancient traditions😊
Thank you for sharing your story of the Bedouin. It's a wonderful custom. And I am in TOTAL agreement about going back and adopting the wisdom of the ancient traditions. 😊
As a moon conjunct Saturn individual who over time has become Saturn’s friend. May I dare to say that you Sir, have so well described my friend, and have aptly expanded on how Saturn can rejoice and say Hurray! in the 12th house. If I may speak on behalf on Saturn “ Haha! Where else can I wield my sword more than in the house of self undoing and self sabotage…. I can blissfully help you wreck the damages you so eagerly wish…..Well, until you come to your senses, then I can leave you alone (Lesson learned)😂. Thank you Sir, for this delightful lecture.
this may be generational, I look forward to your thoughts in a future video possibly, pisces fish here- my mother was born in 1937… she would say, “when you stop being the victim and look within your soul what is the list of everything you will change in your future; take responsibility and change you.” She would not allow the thought of an external situation to be voiced. Her position was I will listen to you and our discussion will be around your responsibility after you’ve gone within”. LOVE your videos❤ #grateful
Through all these years of astrology podcasts and talks, this is by far the most valuable I've ever listened to. You took this to another level Christopher, and made someone with this placement cry, I hope that speaks for itself. Thank you a thousand times
I was just thinking how he is one of the few people who can get through to my emotions when I'm usually just cold-hearted as a defense mechanism but also genuinely just stoic and not very expressive lol
This was very inspiring and can make a huge difference in how we move forward. I'm finishing my first Saturn return as he moves out of Aquarius and one thing I learned that Chris also helps me remember is that yes logic is great but logic is one of the things that makes his "reasoning" beings but so do our feelings and emotions. Tapping into them has been scary AF but so liberating!
I am so glad that you enjoyed this week's episode Universal citizen. Saturn in Pisces means a lot to me. It is a profound and powerful placement. 😊
I agree, as one with Saturn in the 12 native, I have struggled to understand this relationship. Every one of your talks opens a new door of understanding. This one in particular was like a light was turned on. I now understand my draw toward working in hospice and teaching yoga to those in recovery and so much more. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom
Christopher is my Sabbath! He truly makes me a better person ! A glass of wine and a hour listening to my favorite Renaissance man on Sunday is Nirvana!
@@mercedesfoster8257 I'm so glad that you found this week's episode helpful. The two occupations that you mention are very in keeping with Saturn in the 12th. ☺
Christopher is unequaled to any other astrologer on the Internet and my Sunday is simply not complete without him. With the added bonus of Always being guaranteed to learn some thing about astrology that could have taken a life time of study to learn. I’m simply amazed by this man and his gift of storytelling that is always thought provoking. You make us a better person. A true renaissance man if there ever was!
He is the Shakeoeare of the Astrology world today!
I suddenly have more compassion for Saturn.😊
Thanks for another well articulated lesson Christopher!
You're welcome Nicki R. And thanks for watching. 😊
My dad has Saturn in Pisces and this describes him so well. He was having a cardiac stress test, which. is given in several stages. He was in the waiting area to go back in for the next stage and I asked him how the last stage had gone because he looked terrible. He said it had been pretty uncomfortable. I said "Oh I'm sorry you're going through this" and he practically spat at ne "I don't need your pity!" So I shook my head and went back out to run some errands. Right after that, the doctor had to call an ambulance to take him for an emergency heart cath. He is fine now but this experience has helped him accept help. I don't consider him a burden, but his fear of being a burden or a victim certainly makes him difficult to help or care for!
What you say is SO true! It's hard for people with Saturn in Pisces to express pain. He's very lucky to have a child who's as sensitive and caring as you. 😊
@@christopherrenstromastro Thank you! ☺ I really enjoy your work! Your energy is so lovely.
@@mflow6485 As is yours. ☺
I love how Christopher says do we listen ? No we never listen . 😂 Great lesson .
True! Unfortunately . . . 🤣
Everything you said is so 100% true about Saturn in Pisces ♓️ . Eye opener for me as I have this aspect in my natal chart. I am so thankful 🙏🏼❤️to you for explaining the not wanting to listen to victimization from others or expressing it yourself. I will from now on try to express my pain to people I am close to. It will bring me so much relief.
I know… scarily accurate
I need to listen to this on repeat.
Expressing pain can be one of the most courageous things that you can do. 😊
And just yesterday I was sharing my pain with a friend
Baby Left at the Church Door Syndrome...
Oh my, Christopher, this hits so close to home for me. Literally. My dear, late grandmother was sent to live in a convent at age 8, during a time of financial hardship for her family. They were in turn compensated financially by the church. She remained in the convent until age 23, when she requested exit so that she may honor God's calling to become a wife and a mother. As long as I've known her, she has battled the demons of abandonment, and fear of rejection. Hardships of any kind- financial, emotional, etc- would push her into a dark pit of coping mechanisms... which of course, sprayed from her like buckshot- piercing innocent bystanders (us). Due to these behaviors, which were indeed toxic, most of my family gifted her her worst fear- they cut ties with her and she died mostly alone. I think that because i was able to see *through* her coping mechanisms and into the *root* of her behaviors, I was never as compelled to cut ties. My heart is still broken knowing the pain and absolute betrayal she had to endure from her own family and also from what should have been the epitome of a safe space- the church.
Ugh. I'm now in tears, wondering why I've rambled on so to strangers on the internet... but instead of deleting, I'm going to be brave and hit enter. Not even sure why.
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If someone is in pain, they are (consciously or not) asking for empathy or assistance. And Saturn being limits in Pisces which is all about universal love means someone who is restricted or constricted where they otherwise could or should be empathetic and caring.
Christopher’s wise words that the Saturn in Pisces person is a victim mentality, in other words: someone with woundedness that needs to be looked at. And when the victim person looks at his own hurts, and reaches out to help another, he also heals himself through the connection and care.
You got it Sandy! 😊
I don't know if this counts as a prison or not, and how it would relate to the natal chart, but an abusive childhood can certainly feel like a prison... that's what came up for me when he described the 12th house... Love these horoscopes Christopher puts together. They are so well illustrated!
An abusive childhood definitely counts as a prison.
Museums & libraries should be 12th house favorites.
Wow, thank you so much Christopher, my concept of Saturn has been transformed!
My childhood was so traumatic that I didn’t remember it til after my 1st Saturn return. It’s been tough. I hadn’t recognised Saturn as a friend until right now, cos:
in my most difficult moments when small, I had a sense of a profoundly loving protective energy that enfolded and contained my innermost being and kept my soul safe, despite what my body endured.
Your description of Saturn in Pisces exactly describes that energy - and now I see that it is Saturn who has been my greatest friend, protector and benefactor!!! 💗 Huge thanks 🙏🏼
Sun/Saturn/Chiron in Pisces(opp Virgo Pluto/Uranus & sq Gemini Jupiter)
Similar placements to my husband... I have to share this insight of yours with him when he wakes up because I think the way you worded it so eloquently would resonate well with him!
It takes time to recognize Saturn's blessings. I think we can only see them in hindsight. 😊
This is so beautiful Argenia . With my Saturn and Chiron in Pisces opposite Pluto and Uranus, I’m guessing we are of the same generation💕
Contains the self amidst the chaos
Man, did this resonate! Having Saturn in Pisces, I am independent to a fault (and therefore have trouble connecting). My attitude of not accepting help has led to people no longer offering. Seems so clear now! Thx
Thank you Christopher...I love your depth. I have venus in Scorpio in the 12th house. Needless to say everything is deep for me...even what others are projecting into the world and do not belong to me. Spiritual practices that allow me to have good boundaries with others including the divine are essential to my path in this lifetime.
That's so interesting 🖤❤️
God that was great thanks for mentioning being raised by Grandparents and the feeling of not being a burden to othere and wow pain and how we cope with that within and with others xxxxx BEAUTIFUL
This message was very enlightening for me. I am a natal Saturn in Pisces getting ready for my 2nd Saturn return. I cannot believe how this describes me and my whole life patterns!!! Wow. I understand myself a lot better. You are truly amazing!!!
And you are truly amazing too, Wendy. 😊
I have Saturn coming with zero points in to pieces….last time around I was so lost
@@jitenderpaldhillon1633 Since you found Christopher and astrology, ask your guides and ask angels to help you. They will help you find what you need to hear. Don’t forget you are strong and loved. Good luck! I have many family members with Saturn in Pisces, plus a lot of people are ‘feeling’ the transit. You are not alone. ❤
I like how he is so explicit and thorough, he also has great charm.
Thank you Christopher for this wonderful gift! I was born with Saturn in Pisces and never have fully wrapped my head around it . When you said "the baby left on the church steps", you unlocked a door for me. I have always had that feeling of something beingwrong with me, of being abandoned or left behind. Your explanation made so much sense and helped me to piece together more than a few [puzzle pieces. Of course, I also have Chiron nearby Saturn to add to the wounding. My Saturn opposition was a walk through he'll, but I am feeling very optimistic about my saturn return. Thank you again!
This was explained so eloquently. Christopher's storytelling and insights sound very approachable but they also strike a very deep chord.
I'm so glad that this week's horoscope worked for you K Gill. I believe in making Astrology both approachable and resonant. 😊
I love how you explain Saturn in Pisces. It helps me better understand both Saturn and Pisces. And it is really true, the feeling of being in the same boat really does bring us closer together. Thank you!❤
I'm so glad that this week's episode resonated with you. 😊
people with Pisces placements, sun, moon, rising and Saturn in Pisces need to get to the ocean always but especially during this time to earth/ground yourself. Protect and take care of your feet.
Great advice, A.L. Thanks for sharing! 😊
Hearing your voice is ultimate comfort and self care for me. This is just fantastic. Whenever you talk about Saturn especially is just wonderful. I think because mythology is so important for my foundations of learning and it's not a part of Hellenistic which I'm officially studying.
Saturn has certainly given me an extremely strong test. But my favourite. My most respected. And he IS, in my mind, the hermit card in the mythic tarot which I've had for 25 years, from the age of 12.
I'm so glad that you enjoy getting to know Saturn. He has such a long and rich history. I think he may very well be the most complex of all the planets. 😊
To the Lighthouse ! Xxx
I am flabbergasted by the accuracy of how this resonates within my soul. Gratitude💧🩸
And gratitude to you too Colleene for watching. It really means a lot to me. 😊
No wonder i always feel more peace and joy in our sea temple here in our island since new year start spend more time in this temple more than other temples and today is our first day of our full moon ceremony too here, thank you for all your knowledge that you share for us here 🙏🙏🙏 rahajeng rahina purnima 🙏
Your temple sounds lovely. I wish I could visit it. 😊
Holy moly! Saturn in Pisces feeling unwanted! This is in my 8th house and my natal Saturn is conjunct Chiron there. I want to laugh and cry.
You got this Eleanor!
I love the point on the dual-sides in(all) the planets! I have Saturn in Pisces, and your points are duly noted and being worked upon. It's a matter of not being stuck in the extremes of the dual sides of the planet and placement: be open, but also be mindful of people's (real) intentions. Another spot-on discussion! Thank you, again, Christopher! 🤔
You're welcome TheTimeForChange44. and thanks for stopping by and watching. It's always nice to hear from you. 😊
@@christopherrenstromastro Thank you again, for all you do, for all of us. Christopher!
Thank-you Christopher. My Father is a Piscean with Parkinsons who loves his astrology. You've given him sanctuary ❤
You're welcome Jay. And thank YOU for watching. And please tell your Father Hello😊 from me.
@@christopherrenstromastro will do 😊
As always Christopher offers a deeper insightful sensitivity. This was an amazing teaching on Saturn in Pisces & the 12th House. So good i listened twice.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it ell. Thanks for watching. 😊
You’ve done it again, Christopher. Blown my mind with your story telling. I learn so much this way. I’m able to absorb the message so much easier as it’s not so heady. I bet Saturn was a good story teller too. I have deep reverence for Saturn, probably because I’m a Cap rising. Oh, you begun the talk with the metaphor of a Lighthouse. I have to tell you this story…my father was a Capricorn /Aquarius Sun cusp. His birthday was 20th January. He wasn’t a great lover of people, especially in his elder years. One of the things he would often say is that he would be much happier living alone in a Lighthouse with no one around him, except his dog. Well, he kinda got his wish. He was in his 80’s when my mother left him, all my siblings lived in another state and so it was really on me that he had contact with. He was one of those that found it almost impossible to except help or advice from anyone. And so he became quite lonely. He didn’t want anyone else but Mum, but she was never going to return. Quite sad for him. Anyhoo, at the end of his life, in palliative care in Hospital, I was stunned to see a beautiful framed photo of a Lighthouse on the wall of his room. I thought right there…wow you got your wish. A self fulfilling prophecy of sorts don’t you think?
Thankyou Christopher, this one really hit home for me. 🥰🙏🏻
That is such an extraordinary story Chez. Thank you SO MUCH for sharing it. So poignant and profound. 😊
The ending…expression of pain/trauma coming up all over the world. A trend…same boat? Compassion…healing🙏🙏
This is amazing. So much great insight. Grandmother left on a doorstep as a baby, went on to have 8 children, 21 grandchildren and 30 great-grandchildren (thus far). So many themes you mention apply here. Namaste.
Oh my goodness really? I'm so glad that this week's horoscope resonates with you. 😊
@@christopherrenstromastro Hi, yes 💯 there were MANY points that made sense and were very relevant. Excellent. Thank you!
Thank you Chris for every Sunday story time!! I listened to you doing homework today. Sometimes im cooking or cleaning while listening too, or just relaxing and smoking. I look forward to next Sunday which is my birthday. I wonder what story you'll have for me✨️💛🌈
Stars FOREVER?! I love this name! Especially thinking about how physics itself has been determining we are made of stardust and so when we return to the other parts of the cosmos we're.. "ashes to ashes dust to dust" maybe that's STARdust not just...mud? In the meantime we're trans-dust while walking around in our human meat suits. Hahahaha. Seriously, happy birthday my fellow water sign. I love Pisces. One of my cats is a Friday the 13th Pisces. Baby Amy Tail Interrupted. 🐈⬛🐟 ☀️ 🦂 🌙 🦀 ASC ... My little spooky baby cat. She's very mystical and my moon is conjunct her ASC her moon conjunct my Sun. Have a lovely solar return! 🌞 🎂 🎉
I love Sunday Story-time. ❤
Thank you for linking Saturn with self fulfilling prophecy that was very helpful to visualise. I actually had a very literal experience of Saturn at the anaretic degree of Aquarius moving through my 12th house also conjunct mercury in Pisces where my neighbour crossed the border of his land (naively and illegally!) into mine and cut down a tree on my property. It took me a few days to recover from what I experienced as a violation and I certainly felt like a victim. I see the impact of Pisces/12th house on Saturn as something that potentially weakens Saturn’s ability to stand guard between worlds borders or between property lines in my case. Thank you again for your exquisite detail ❤
You're welcome Prose2418. And thank you for sharing your story. I think we can all relate. 😊
Dearest Christopher, you are spot on about Saturn in the 12th house. In our family there is a history of alcoholism and 'Chronos' illness. I've got a stellium in my 12th♓🤔 with saturn, my moon and chiron. I'm still learning to live a very healthy lifestyle and i'm making positive progress. With small steps but i feel better than ever. And doinf my own shadow work of asking myself what is this triggering in me, helps me to get more balanced and be kinder to people, have more understanding for their sorrow and pain. Thank you🙏thank you 🙏thank you🙏 my favourite astrologer🙌 for taking us with you in this incredible journey called life. You explain it so beautifully👑✨🪐🌞🌝🏆
I'm so glad that you enjoyed this week's episode Caramena A. 😊
Trauma is according to experts stored in the vegus nerve which runs through the whole body. So you can recover your brain but your body keeps that stored so it would make sense that it is stored in our DNA. A book that explores this is, The body keeps score"
Sounds like a fascinating book Lynda. I'll check it out. 😊
Thank you, Christopher. I have Saturn, Moon, and Chiron in Pisces in the 2nd house. I'm also going through my 2nd Saturn return. Ugh. Well, this explains why I have felt unwanted throughout my life. When I have expressed my emotions, I have been laughed at or yelled at. Not fun. I just go within.
I totally get it Alisa. No one wants to be laughed at or yelled at when they're expressing their feelings. I hope that this second Saturn return will bring a release from that cycle. It's often what second Saturn returns do. 😊
@@christopherrenstromastro Thank you. It looks like Saturn return in Pisces will be bringing 6 inches of rain tonight. I got a CodeRed from the county to be prepared for flooding. Yikes!
@@alisaaustin8431 Yikes is right! I hope things turn out OK.
Wow I'm sitting here wondering about my second Saturn return which is just days away. I'm a professional astrologer but also work in the healing arts in various modalities. My business tagline is Be a lighthouse. For yourself and others. Saturn is the only planet in above the horizon in my chart. I have strong feelings about what this placement really means and I felt SEEN. Thank you for this, I turned it on and felt so understood, it moved me to tears. Thank you, this soul hears you.
And this soul hears you too, Catherine. It's nice to hear from another Lighthouse. 😊
Wow! I'm almost through this but I have to say that the last part of pushing people away and then being hurt about people not paying attention to you really resonates with me 🥺. My Saturn is 5⁰ Pisces in my 4th. 2nd return will be in April (born in 1964). Thank you for this It has helped so much and I will definitely be watching it again.
I'm so glad that this week's horoscope resonates with you Laurie and I hope that you find it helpful. 😊
Such incredible metaphors for Saturn!!! Wow, I hope you can get a ton more views for this! You’re a cosmic minister!
Thank you for your kind and encouraging words Mary. They're greatly appreciated. 😊
Cosmic minister! Very apropos
You're delightfully brilliant, Christopher!
And I love being a Pisces (sun)!
I am comfortable with Saturn. My 12th house is Capricorn with my North Node and Chiron. Saturn in tbe 9th house in Scorpio. All ok with me.
You are spot on about my husband's Saturn in Pisces in the 10th house. No father in his life; raised by grandparents (immature mother). He was very self reliant at a young age. Further, he cannot stand someone playing the victim!
I can't wait for Epic the Musical to come out! A perfect Saturn in Pisces welcome!
the experience of persons with whom one thought might be of comfort in a time of crisis and loss...who further the pain by a hard response, or apparent glee at your suffering... is so bleak and shattering.
So interesting to have Saturn in Jupiter's house. Tests and reaching limits in the sign of the boundless. How much compassion do we have? Where do we lose boundary to a fault? Thank you Christopher - really love the friend or foe and attitude about planets - very helpful. I think Saturn can be very strengthening. Saturn as virtuous. Perfect.
Brilliant Christopher. Your deep awareness is such a gift to us. Really. That was just beautifully said. Thank you
You're welcome Mimi. And thank YOU for watching. 😊
I listened to Pearl Jams "Sirens" yesterday🤩
Holy cow! Dear Christopher, ever since I began my journey in learning astrology 3 years ago, I wasn’t able to understand my Saturn in Pisces, in the first house😳, but you created such a clear picture of storytelling and examples that allowed me to see what this placement means. It breaks my heart to hear about the baby left at the church syndrome as not only do I have this placement but my daughter does, my husband and my friends. You have opened the door to my understanding and I hope to help my loved ones understand as well. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! Interesting to hear the number 7 associated with Saturn as it’s my favorite number and with my ascendant in Aquarius and natal Saturn also in my first house as well, he’s a big part of my life! You’re amazing Christopher❤️🥰❤️🤩
I"m so glad that you enjoyed this week's episode on Saturn in Pisces. I know it must be heartbreaking to think of the placement in the charts of so many people you know, but think of the common bond this creates among all of you. You really understand where the other person is coming from and that's always a wonderful thing. 😊
@@christopherrenstromastro so true, thanks Christopher ❤️
That was so beautifull, so profound. I really think you are a great master of the human understanding. Listening to you is a moving experience, a blessing. The relation with the expression of pain is indeed complicated. Years ago, I used to express pain with anger. Nowadays I still feel a little guilty and ashamed but I manage to express It. The result of doing so is being despised by some but It also allows others to express there vulnerability. Now I think there are moments to be strong but there are also some moments not to be strong in order to recognise our real feelings and be able to know ourselves. Thank you so much, Christopher!
Pain isn't easy to express because it's . . . painful. It's something many people don't want to be reminded of, but it's a signal flare of camaraderie to those who understand it. 😊
Listening again in June 2024 with Saturn Rx in Pisces. As always, learning so much from Christopher. I have Saturn in my natal 12th house(Libra, not Pisces).. I love, love love Christopher's description of Saturn as sanctuary. Over the the years Ive become accustomed to Saturn's tests, yet still appreciate Christopher's validation that good outcomes are possible, and depend on one's inner attitude. Yes, Charles Laughton was amazing as Quasimodo. Thank you Victor Hugo.❤
So true my parents had difficult time when i was born
This has been a phenomenonal rendition and another side of Saturn in Pisces that I feel was personally ground breaking.... a complete eye opener. Thank you for your fantastic wisdom and insight and I will definitely remember the key principles during this Saturn transit. 🙏🏻
I'm so glad that this week's episode resonated with you Darsit. And thanks for watching. 😊
So good.. I'm a Saturn in pisces..now I know why I feel this way.. and why I dislike seeing people who I perceive as "playing the victim"...
You made this video for me.... spot on! Starting my 2nd Sat return tomorrow. I will treasure this talk.
I'm so glad that this week's episode resonates with you. 😊
I absolutely love the manner in your delivery of the truth! So enjoyable! 😘♥️ Thank you!
You're welcome Dorothy. And thank YOU for watching. 😊
Most wonderful lesson ever❤️❤️❤️Like was directed to me,first I love Saturn and always understood it as planet that protects you(at least for me!),so nice the way you put it in words!Also, I really don’t like people that play the role of victim all the time,and I don’t allow myself to be a victim,don’t want anyone feeling sorry for me🤔Saturn in the first house would fit this description ?The best 12th house explanation!Thank you so much!Saving it to listen again 🙏
I"m so glad that this week's horoscope resonated with you. 🙂
I’ve got Saturn in Pisces in the 1st house and don’t like ever being perceived as a victim. 😢
@@giovannam7 I hear you. ☺
I have to say this is the best lecture I've ever listened to on saturn, pisces and the 12th house...I learned so much today and received so much hope and freedom...thank you from the bottom of my heart Chris!
oh my, I find this episode incredibly thought provoking. especially for me with Sun 12th Aquarius 0'14...I thank you Christopher Renstrom for this most ...see above!! blessings.....🙏🙏🙏
Fascinating! My family members fit this so well and tho I saw it, I didn’t 👀…now to figure how to alter the dynamic…will listen again! As always your examples are always eye opening! Thank you!❤
I"m so glad that this week's horoscope resonated with you. 😊
Christopher is honestly the most amazing storyteller! Every time I listen to him I go through ALL of the emotions. Just the best!
Oh, you are so sweet brandiblueeyes83. Thank you for your kind and encouraging words. 😊
Absolutely loved this fantastic interpretation of Saturn in Pisces. I also enjoyed the brilliant examples from literature and Renaissance philosophy. This was a valuable episode and I learned so much. Really broadened and deepened my understanding of Saturn and the 12th house. Thank you. 🙏✨
You're welcome Julie. And thank YOU for watching. I really appreciate it. 😊
Christopher, you are such a gift to this world. Your knowledge and wisdom of how to share something in a manner that allows us to use the information is something that inspires me to try to do the same! I’m always grateful for diving deep with you in your videos. Thank you.
Thank you for your kind and encouraging words Inner Intuitive. It's a pleasure to deep dive with you too. 😊
What a profound way to explain such a freighting thing as Saturn in Pisces ♓️ for me (got it’s transit in my AC) and definitely recognize that resistance to people play victim and will reflect on my own capacity to express sadness and worries
That was very inspiring... I used to like to watch a science fiction movie on Sunday nights.. Now your lesson has replaced it... thank you!
Your words bring me comfort Christopher. Thank you 🙏🏽💙
Absolutely fantastic Christopher. So much clarification, so well explained. I’ve not heard such a revealing look at Saturn, ever. This is important to me as I have Saturn in Aquarius in my 12th house. Double challenge. Just completed my second Saturn return, only to have it enter my first 😅. The first Saturn return was challenging however at that age, I had no idea about astrology, but was not too perturbed! The late 80’s and Sydney Australia was in it’s prime! Not inclined to partake in it’s offerings during my 2nd 😉. As I listen, again, to your expose of Saturn with it in Pisces, my 1st house (6 planet stellium), all I can say is “happy Mardi Gras”!! Month long celebration starting in 2 days. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽✌🏽👍🏽😁
Thank you Christopher for such a rich exploration of Saturn in Pisces. Especially the contemplation of fellowship of pain and awakening of connection in compassion. You have enriched my 2nd Saturn return ❤
First time I had run across your channel 🤗❤️ This is Me! 😲Omg! I've never seen, heard or felt my life explained this way! Yes all 3 situations were in my life 🧬😲 Wow 🥺😳 Really Helpful Knowledge! Thank You for Just Being You ❤️ 🙏🏻 God Bless You 🤗🌻🌺🌼🌅
I"m so glad this week's episode resonated with you Michelle. And I hope you swing by and watch again. 😊
Deeply insightful and serendipitous as only it can be! In a rigorously mystical way that it resonates with me oddly enough as I interpret it personally and definitely on point, today's episode on Saturn in Pisces by the incomparable excellent Christopher Renstrom!
You are very kind Genghis Galahad. Thank you for your encouraging words. 😊
You are so much fun to listen and learn from!
Excellent reflections on Saturn in Pisces - Fellowship- thank you Christopher
I have Pluto at 0° in my 12th house. I also have Saturn conjunct my Sun in the 4th house. I think I'm the only one of my 6 siblings that fully felt the heaviness and sadness my mother carried for having endured a childhood with an alcoholic father who would disappear and then reappear. When he was present, there was frequent if not constant discord, and plenty of shouting between her parents. I never even knew the details or the extent of it till I was in my 50's, and my aunt told me about it. My mother said very little about her past, and even though she raised us very differently, and had a good husband, I could see her underlying sadness, even when i was young. I don't know what she did exactly to make a home so improved for us, but she's gone now, and I'm impressed. It must have been very difficult for her to make a rather good life for us. I was there when she died of cancer at age 79, and her anxiety surfaced on her deathbed. She worried that she hadn't done enough good in her life and wanted to live longer and prove herself, mostly to God, even though she had been a faithful fundamentalist Christian. It makes me sad. I do spend most of my time alone when I'm not working.
Your mother sounds like a very strong and caring woman. How wonderful to have been raised by her. I'm sure she's found her peace with God. God bless her. 😊
Amazing, once again you've gone so deep and unlocked complete treasures for us. Thank you
Love this. More CR storytelling. Always revelatory.
I have natal Saturn in my 12th house and I’m a Pisces (my 2nd house)… finally an explanation for ancestral pain and issues. I need me a reading with my sun coming around 3/9…deep gratitude Christopher❤
I need more Christopher in my life! I wish you had your own channel 💜 love your explanations
Thank you for this!When you mentioned the light house I said to myself Christopher always delivers! I have Saturn in Pisces with a Pisces moon as well and I am a Capricorn rising so this transit i will surly feel on a physical and spiritual level . Transiting Saturn is right now triggering my Jupiter in the 12 house and opposing my mercury so triggering my T-square. As a child watching the hunchback of Notre Dame and I would wish that I could jump into the screen and hug Quasimodo! My Leo sun related to Esmeralda, put my Pisces related to Quasimodo lol. This video was amazing and you always do an amazing job! ❤❤❤❤❤
This is interesting at the end. My answer to people who play the victim and what bothers me about that is that they aren't tapping into their own soul, and recognizing the potential they have they gave up on. It also caused them to ignore people who crossed paths with them that provided opportunity or advice they didn't see because they were closed minded. But it isn't their fault, they grew up in an environment that influenced them that way..so as a Pisces my reaction isn't anger, it's trying to get their perspective on what causes them to feel that way. I love to open conversation with people about why they are who they are. Some people know exactly their reasons and what they experienced where they can spit it out right away, and others have the same reasons but they didn't really live it or blame others and they just put it on their backs to carry based on what others say or tell them, and because no one helped them know how to move forward..and instead of exploring who they really are they let others influence them .As a Pisces I empathize with everyone, literally think of a serial killer .. I don't feel bad for them however I feel intrigued to understand how they became that way in the first place.
Now to try and relate to when you said to think about what bothers us when people says they are victims to dig deep and it's probably your own feeling of abandonment that was interesting..but what came to mind was how I feel when Oprah says shes oppressed, and that's a victim hood comment. I mean a female, black, billionaire. Perhaps she used to be but it bothers me when I ( as a Pisces)sees her portray this through current times and the victim hood makes me wonder why she doesn't speak about empowerment instead of victim hood. That is probably the answer to why those who feel like a victim with out actually being one happens. When they are listening to the doom and gloom from a billionaire or first lady or star basketball player it's normal to spread the hopelessness. I am hoping you can shed light on why that bothers me.
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Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts Lak Cunha. I like the way you open conversations with people about why they are who they are. I think it's something we could all learn from - including the people being asked. 🙂 I think the fact that people react to the word "victim" in so many different ways speaks to the deep chord it strikes in all of us. That's the conversation that Saturn in Pisces brings up by its transit and it's one we will all be wrapping our hearts and minds around in the next couple of years. 😊
I have Saturn in Pisces - 15°. My story fits the model of the child who was left alone much of the time, went to live with relatives for a period of time, AND at age 11, I overheard my mother laughing over coffee with a friend about how she tried to "douche me to death" when she found out she was pregnant with me. I wasn't feeling the love that day. BUT... I've become very comfortable with being alone, although I can get along just fine with other people. I'm very comfortable with who I am.
What a fascinating way of explaining this placement... Fantastic storytelling as well, thank you.
The most entertaining and intelligent astrologer on the UA-cam. This video is 100% accurate and hit me hard. Please could I request one for Saturn in cancer?
I subscribe to aspect tweets and this came through while listening to this: “9:51am EST: Moon in Virgo biquintile Pluto in Capricorn. Gifts of brilliance from the heavens. It's a great time to put what you've discovered into practice. Suddenly this feels a whole lot easier than it used to. 05°Vi38' D 29°Cp38' D”. You are SO gifted, thank you for this 🌸
And thank YOU Chrissy for watching. 😊
Christopher just gets better with each episode! Incredible & so relatable. I learned so much applicable information!!! Thank you so much for this excellent & enjoyable talk. ❣️
You're welcome Patricia. And thank YOU for watching. 😊
Thank you so much for this beautiful talk Christopher. You brought me tears 🙏✨🌹
This is a deep and practical lecture on this placement. One if the best I've heard.
Thank you!
Very beautiful, thought-provoking analysis. Astrology in a hole, completely new level. Not the usual new age crap. You must have a big library in your house.
The library is enormous. And in desperate need of reorganization . . . 😊
This was a brilliant dissertation. Thank you.
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We are ALL the SAME PERSON experiencing life in a BUNCH OF DIFFERENT BODIES!!! which means that EVERY PERSON that you meet, is really just YOU...LIVING IN ANOTHER BODY!! you see..you are INTERACTING with YOURSELF at ALL TIMES!!! & once you understand this, you can achieve unity!
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You have a gift ❤. This is very interesting, especially the bit about trauma being passed down. Pluto will transit my 12H and I am definitely working through some things.
Profound !. This is my second Saturn Return and I am going to MASTER it this time.
Yes indeed.
Wonderful,love this magnificient explanation.
Love from Portugal
This was in-depth... So good . I'm a Saturn 6th house.
As always thank you!! ❤️🙏🏼🌞
What a magnificent interpretation ! Thank you!
Thank you for being the lighthouse that illuminates the signs creating more compassion towards each other.
Worth listening to this a few more times. Fascinating as usual 💜
Additional point to sanctuaries ..Bedouin or nomadic tribes in the desert. Once one steps into their abodes, no harm can come to them and they would be treated with utmost respect.
Nowadays it could include race or gender or any variety of outcasts finding refuge in more tolerant countries.
In modern Israel The Shabbat is not as religiously observed..maybe we could go back and adopt the wisdom of the ancient traditions😊
Thank you for sharing your story of the Bedouin. It's a wonderful custom. And I am in TOTAL agreement about going back and adopting the wisdom of the ancient traditions. 😊
what a super explanation of this phase
As a moon conjunct Saturn individual who over time has become Saturn’s friend. May I dare to say that you Sir, have so well described my friend, and have aptly expanded on how Saturn can rejoice and say Hurray! in the 12th house. If I may speak on behalf on Saturn “ Haha! Where else can I wield my sword more than in the house of self undoing and self sabotage…. I can blissfully help you wreck the damages you so eagerly wish…..Well, until you come to your senses, then I can leave you alone (Lesson learned)😂. Thank you Sir, for this delightful lecture.
That's a fun way of putting it My beautiful journey. Thanks for sharing. 😊
this may be generational, I look forward to your thoughts in a future video possibly, pisces fish here- my mother was born in 1937… she would say, “when you stop being the victim and look within your soul what is the list of everything you will change in your future; take responsibility and change you.” She would not allow the thought of an external situation to be voiced. Her position was I will listen to you and our discussion will be around your responsibility after you’ve gone within”. LOVE your videos❤ #grateful
Thanks to you and thanks to your mum. 💖🌕
Your mother sounds like a very wise woman. Thank you for sharing. 😊
You are sooooooooo anazing Chris
And you are too Dalia loves doggies! 😊
Thank you for such a colourful message. You never disappoint! 😊🙏🏻
Loving my 12th house Saturn! Thank you for a new perspective, Christopher🙏✨💥✨