I just got to see your video now, two years after posting it, and it has inspired me to get back at the trombone. Excellent video with a great teaching of how to change to those high tones.
Great to hear it, Andrew! Playing melodies is definitely my favorite way to work on my high register, too. I made another video similar to this using the melody to Swan Lake, if you want to check it out: ua-cam.com/video/NIwR1u7zrnc/v-deo.html
Haven't played since High School.... starting to play with a small church orchestra, waiting for my new Back Stradivarius model 42 (no F attachment). Exited. Will follow your videos.
Excelente me ha encantado; ya lo he agregado a mi rutina diaria, lo hago igual y a veces inicio en el registro medio. Gracias por el tutorial, un abrazo desde República Dominicana.
Gracias! I am happy you added this video to your daily routine! Let me know how it goes. You can say hi and keep in touch with me on social media @lisaliztrombone
THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT ADVICE. Listening to you play that little bit of "Over the rainbow, and not finishing the line is like unto doing "Shave and a hair-cut...: You're screaming for TWO BITS !!!😜
Thank you Allen. I was able to get this range by doing exercises like this everyday! Please stay tuned to my channel, I will make more tutorial videos like this in the future. Happy practicing!
anyone can see this is a King. My dad bought me one as my 1st bone when I was 13. I had a 2B. no idea what it must have cost back then. In the 70's. I quit playing at 18 and actually gave it away. can you believe? I have recently got a Yamaha - reaaaaal cheap. in perfect condition and am playing again. At 60+ -loving it.
Only got this trombone for a couple of weeks. Here, I managed to go all the way! to the Top F - maybe because I have also been playing trumpet for a couple of years. Maybe that is a good trick. Get a cheap trumpet - acustom/train your lips to vibrate at these higher frequencies. Ever try that? SUbbed your channel.
Yeah, it’s a King 3B! That’s so cool to hear you got your Yamaha for super cheap and it sounds like it’s a good horn! What model is it? I actually got this King used for super cheap too. Finding great used horns is the best!
@@LisaLizTrombone It's the 354. And it is remarkably good - but not as easy to blow as my old King 2B used to be :( I paid £100! ($138 US) It's almost minty! Slide is perfect, too. What do you think of my "play trumpet to get high note range on trombone" idea? Ever try trumpet? I've not picked up a bone for 10 years and still have the high range as I play a bit of trumpet these days.
Thanks Tim! I am glad you liked the video and happy to hear you will put it in your routine. Let me know how it goes! I am curious: Which part of the exercise did you skip to?
@@LisaLizTrombone From somewhere in the middle. If you are doubling with bass trombone would you do this with both bass and tenor or just one or the other? To develop low range could you play " Over the rainbow " upside down?
Tim Scofield I double on bass bone as well. When I am working on my bass trombone chops, I usually focus on lower register playing since that is where the majority of the music is written. Also, getting into the trigger register (F and D). So I take this same concept, and extend downward, one half step at a time. Haha, yes, you could totally flip Over the Rainbow upside down! I have never thought of that before! Or, you can pick another melody, anything you want!
Are you saying playing high while playing trombone? A really good tune to play A Nightingale Sang In Barkley Square.. up by half steps.. keep up the great work
Hehe well, that works too! 🤭 I love that tune! I’ll give it a try 😉 Here’s a trombone quartet video I played with some friends of that song. I was playing bass on this one! ua-cam.com/video/48MVv0PPY0Y/v-deo.html
Hi Lisa, this Is a very cool video and extremely helpful ! Thank you so much !! May I just ask (clueless composer here), I have seen trombones notated in the tenor clef but in such heights, do you guys prefer the treble clef? I notate most instruments with an octave sign or in another clef when the ledger lines start becoming confusing but I've never seen trombones notated in a treble clef as in orchestration they usually don't go up there and I haven't reviewed much solo literature for this instrument. Thanks so much !!
Hello! So sorry for the late response time! In regards to clefs for trombones I have seen it all! In solo and orchestral rep you mainly see tenor clef for the high register and sometimes even alto clef. For jazz, show, and pop music I have seen bass clef with and 8va and treble clef. My personal preference is bass clef 8va, but I think you will find that preference will vary from trombonist to trombonist.
Wow! I didn't know they made 3B valved versions! I would love to play that 😆 Good luck getting a slide for it too - they're the best! I love the nickel plating, it's so light. Sounds like you have quite the trombone collection!
I am happy you liked it! Yes, this a great exercise for getting into the higher register. Give me a try and let me know how it goes. 😊 I also have another video like this on my channel using the melody from Swan Lake if you want to try it! ua-cam.com/video/NIwR1u7zrnc/v-deo.html
Here you take a melody that goes up an octave to the top note. The other one you chose from swan lake even starts on the high note. Would it not be advisable for a less able high player to take a melody that goes up step wise to the highest note?
That would totally be advisable! Going up step wise would be great. My “Joy to the World” video goes up the major scale, from the 5th... although, it’s not as fun to play Christmas music all year round haha. Do you have any favorite melodies that go up step wise?
@@LisaLizTrombone I like You dont know what love is. First I heard the Jimmy Cleveland version, which is impressive. Then I heard Sonny Rollins and I was blown away.
Thanks a lot, Joe. Thanks for watching! I have many more videos on my channel if you want to check them out. 😊Including more of these "How to play high" videos. I've made a series out of them!
So you said in 1 video thst playing high is about pointing your air down? However, when I get to high gs and as, I'm already pointing the air practically straight down. How do I go higher?
I have some students that find the pointing the air down analogy helpful. If you already feel like your air is straight down, maybe you will find another analogy more helpful? The thing that works the best for me personally is the "O" to "E" concept. I make the vowel shape O for lower notes, and as I go higher, I make the vowel shape E. This allows my tongue to raise higher in my mouth.
Hi, Lisa! I was wondering if you do some buzzing for warm ups or playing high exercises, if so, is there a routine you could share with us? thanks for your videos, it's been very helpful.
Hey Rafael, thanks for your question. I am actually not a fan of buzzing on the mouthpiece and I almost never include it in my practice routine. I know there are two different schools of thought on this in the brass playing world. I guess you could say I am team "no buzz" haha. It is just so different than when you are actually playing the horn, I do not see the benefit. However, I sometimes recommend mouthpiece buzzing to certain students if they are having trouble centering their pitches and cracking notes. I use the think, sing, buzz, play method and this usually helps them out. Just matching single pitches or a simple melody.
Check out these videos from Christian Lindberg. I agree with his views on this topic. I am curious to know what you think! ua-cam.com/video/Fz5fow-pf68/v-deo.html
@@LisaLizTrombone Hey !! Thanks for replying. I just watched both videos! As a newbie Trombone player (I started like 2 years ago, I've never had played any bass instrument before), I did not know how divided trombonists were on this matter. TBH, Christian seemed a little arrogant or overconfident on his view about this matter on the first video, BUT, of course, he's an ultra experienced player, it's not a common opinion, but it gave me the impression that it would be not only an error but a dumb thing to do so. Naturally, the internet reacted badly, therefore the second video. Anyway, I'm not criticizing him or whatever, just my impressions. I liked his point of view after all! Funny thing, this video was listed as related: ua-cam.com/video/CqDy8G1d80I/v-deo.html I found it interesting as well. Very controversial subject. I like it. My point of view could be totally wrong, feel free to argue back, but here it goes... One of my main dificulties is to develop lip resistance and reach high notes. I started blowing air late in my life, I activated my mouth muscles just recently, I feel kind of "outdated". My intention when I do free buzz (without the mouthpiece) is not only to reach the notes (I do it while I hear a drone or something, to keep in tune) but to work out and develop my mouth muscles. I also see it as a simple & fast way to warm up or keep the daily exercise, as we can't play trombone anywhere at anytime. I'm very curious about your live tomorrow !! Thanks again.
Hello, I enjoyed your video, and starting playing a 1965 Conn Director I bought on eBay. At 68, this is my first brass instrument. I can hit the first F above middle C quite reliably, but it's very "hit or miss" for even the G. I'm taking lessons and practicing every day, although my instructor doesn't want me to "force" higher notes--for example, one exercise I have this week goes up to the G, and he just said "great if you reach it, but don't worry if you don't". I was wondering how long it takes to increase one's range if doing the exercises you've illustrated here--that is, for one to reach even the first B-flat above middle C and perhaps the F above it (i.e., an octave above where I am now). Are these notes something I might be able to play 6 months from now, or is it more like 6 years? I have somewhat of an overbite so my upper lip sticks out a bit over my lower so I tend to blow somewhat below horizontal, but it seems to work well for me. I especially like to play various marches, and can keep playing them higher.
My apologies for the late reply on this comment! That's awesome to hear you're learning to play a brass instrument (especially the trombone 😉 ) at 68! That F to G you mentioned can be quite a hurdle to jump over, and it will take some time. I have another video you might find helpful, it goes into some concepts I like to think of when playing in the higher register. ua-cam.com/video/bqqOTHFG5fw/v-deo.html The concept I find most helpful is changing the vowel shape in my mouth from "O" to "E" as I go higher. You might need a significant vowel change to get from that F to G. It will "feel" different on the inside of your mouth. Once you get that change, it's just slow practice and repetition. As far as a timeline goes to comfortably play the high Bb and above, it's different for everyone. I started playing trombone the summer before my freshman year of high school and I would say the high Bb wasn't comfortable until I got to college and was playing those notes regularly. So about 4 years there. It wasn't until my masters that I really started doing exercises like this to go for the high F and beyond. So add a few more years. However, adding in high range practice from the beginning might have yielded faster results? You'll just have to see what works for you!
@@LisaLizTrombone Thank you very much! I've been playing some songs and passages that incorporate the G, and sometimes I hit it. One day I actually touched the B flat. Mostly for fun, I bought a cheap trumpet mouthpiece, a French horn mouthpieces and a tube mouthpiece to see what happens. It's easier to hit the higher notes with both of the small mouthpieces (and with trumpet mouthpiece the trombone actually sounds much like a trumpet, at least from my perspective, while playing it). However, I believe this simply shows I could play those notes on the respective instruments. (The tuba mouthpiece doesn't fit, so I will need to find a way to couple it to the trombone, and see if I can get the lowest pedal tones easily besides just the low B flat and sometimes the A and a flat.) In any case, I'm making some progress even with the trombone's own mouthpiece. I'm traveling right now, but I'll watch your suggested video when I get home if not earlier. Thanks, again, for your suggestions!
Truly every day for this? I was taught somewhere to alternate hard- practice days with easy-practice days to allow recovery, and perhaps I have misinterpreted that to mean I work my high range every OTHER day. I have to say it has not been that effective.
I used to do exercises like this everyday when I was in college. Now that I’ve built up the range, I feel it stays pretty well as long as I do stuff like this a couple times a week. When I’m playing and gigging a lot, I tend to do exercises like this less. It’s all about what works well with you and your schedule!
Thank you Peter! This is my first time making a play-along video in this style. I am thinking of making it a series if people like it? 🤔 As far as the embouchure goes: I actually taught myself how to play trombone (right before I went to high school) and that’s just what I came up with. I have never really thought much about my embouchure or the mechanics behind it. I’ve always been more of a “concept of sound” kind of player. That if you have the sound in mind, your body will do what it needs to do to produce that sound. I know it’s a huge topic among brass players and you made a video on embouchure recently! Very interesting topic.
Marcano Music thank you, I am glad you liked it! I like to play my “high register” exercises/melodies throughout the entire register of the horn to build strength. But yes, I know some people will skip to the end or start in the middle! The low notes are there if you want them 😊 #options
Lisa Liz Trombone I’m getting back to playing after a long hiatus since changing majors from jazz performance back in ‘98. I am a new subscriber and will definitely keep up with your videos. Thank you for sharing.
Too bad. I was hoping to find some more basic info here when I saw the title. I am unable to play even slightly higher tones, my trombone teacher could not tell me why. In fact, I do not even know if it is a technique issue, if my anatomy makes it impossible or if this is a general problem every beginner has? Since I do not even know that I stopped taking lessons and have not touched my trombone anymore. I read a lot about embochure and tried all sorts of variations with my lips but no change. In the end I was more focused on how to form my lips than anything else, making things even more complicated. Had the same issue on trumpet and I switched to trombone as it had a bigger mouth piece, hoping that might help (and it does a little bit). I cannot even whistle higher tones, not sure if that is related. Other people gave me useless advice "oh everyone got to figure that out by themselves" while I saw little kids who played it all naturally.
You can get a downloadable version of this practice track here: lisaliztrombone.com/store/play-high-with-over-the-rainbow-practice-track
Oh, I understand, all the technique is based on the naturalness of what we express, in this case this song
Thanks Liza.
This is a good phrase for practicing alternate positions.
Oh for sure! You can use it to practice many things at once 😊
That was very beautiful playing. Especially on that super F!!!
Thanks Nathan, I appreciate the comment! I am curious - Did you try out this exercise? I'd like to hear your thoughts!
This is wonderful
I love this
Please madam Lisa fix a class for me
wow whats is your trombone
I just got to see your video now, two years after posting it, and it has inspired me to get back at the trombone. Excellent video with a great teaching of how to change to those high tones.
Glad to inspire you to get back at the trombone! How’s it coming? 😊
I like how you do it so easy without any effort. Nice
Your intonation is so good. Really cool you added that synth pad to make it more musical. Enjoying your content, cheers
Thanks for this tutorial. This is great and is really helping me increase my range!
Great to hear it, Andrew! Playing melodies is definitely my favorite way to work on my high register, too. I made another video similar to this using the melody to Swan Lake, if you want to check it out: ua-cam.com/video/NIwR1u7zrnc/v-deo.html
Hello i am a trombone player. An average player only... A fan of you..thanks you for sharing your skills to as
Thanks for being a fan! Trombone power!!! 💪
Haven't played since High School.... starting to play with a small church orchestra, waiting for my new Back Stradivarius model 42 (no F attachment). Exited. Will follow your videos.
You have mad chops! Thank you for sharing! God Bless!
Absolutely great tone!
god woman you are simply amazing....over the top amazing...I never could do that even when I was playing every day for hours at a time.
Lisa, you are AMAZING! I miss playing with you back in the day.
Excelente me ha encantado; ya lo he agregado a mi rutina diaria, lo hago igual y a veces inicio en el registro medio. Gracias por el tutorial, un abrazo desde República Dominicana.
Gracias! I am happy you added this video to your daily routine! Let me know how it goes. You can say hi and keep in touch with me on social media @lisaliztrombone
@@LisaLizTrombone Gracias, te sigo en Instagram
Nice job! Wish my trombone teacher would have told me this.
Thank you! I had an amazing teacher, Ryan Haines, who taught me this concept. Look him up on UA-cam, he’s 🔥
That was awesome. Good stuff. I like that tune for playing high too.
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed it! That's awesome to hear you use it too, this is one of my favorite melodies for sure!
Superb playing. Really something to work with. Keep swinging.
Thank you so much! Thanks for listening.
I'm testing it since 4 weeks - and I feel - it's working ;-)
That’s so awesome! Glad it’s helping! 😊 keep going 💪
THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT ADVICE. Listening to you play that little bit of "Over the rainbow, and not finishing the line is like unto doing "Shave and a hair-cut...: You're screaming for TWO BITS !!!😜
Embocadura bien segura, bravo!!!👏👏👏
It will be my new exercise for high notes. I 'll show you the results soon. Greetings from Perú.
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
Okis
wow.. really really impressive range.. wow...and great tutorial
Thank you Allen. I was able to get this range by doing exercises like this everyday! Please stay tuned to my channel, I will make more tutorial videos like this in the future. Happy practicing!
You are awsome Lisa Liz !
anyone can see this is a King. My dad bought me one as my 1st bone when I was 13. I had a 2B. no idea what it must have cost back then. In the 70's. I quit playing at 18 and actually gave it away. can you believe? I have recently got a Yamaha - reaaaaal cheap. in perfect condition and am playing again. At 60+ -loving it.
Only got this trombone for a couple of weeks. Here, I managed to go all the way! to the Top F - maybe because I have also been playing trumpet for a couple of years. Maybe that is a good trick. Get a cheap trumpet - acustom/train your lips to vibrate at these higher frequencies. Ever try that? SUbbed your channel.
Yeah, it’s a King 3B! That’s so cool to hear you got your Yamaha for super cheap and it sounds like it’s a good horn! What model is it?
I actually got this King used for super cheap too. Finding great used horns is the best!
@@LisaLizTrombone It's the 354. And it is remarkably good - but not as easy to blow as my old King 2B used to be :(
I paid £100! ($138 US) It's almost minty! Slide is perfect, too.
What do you think of my "play trumpet to get high note range on trombone" idea? Ever try trumpet? I've not picked up a bone for 10 years and still have the high range as I play a bit of trumpet these days.
Very helpful, thanks. I just downloaded the sheet music.
Your sound is really good . Congratulations I started enjoying your videos .
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate it 😊
Very nice sound
More wonderful. So pretty easy up there. I want to talk about lessons
Very nice tone quality
this could also be a good exercise to practice transposing licks i assume ,, great video !!
For sure! Gotta get all 12 😂
THANK YOU LIZA GOOD JOB ON THE PLAY ALONG VIDEO WITH NOTATION VERY HELPFUL , best Albert
You are welcome, Albert! I am so happy you liked it. I hope you can use this video in your routine. Happy practicing 😊
Good challenge to improve.
Yes! It's a constant challenge for me as well! One half step at a time, haha.
Muito esse estudo!
Você sobe com uma facilidade nos super_agudos
Your embouchure looks great.
Thank you, I do my best! Lots of time playing while looking into the mirror when I was in school.
Great video and great playing.
Thank you! I find these exercises so helpful!
Fantastic Lisa!!!
Great lesson. I will put it in my routine. I did skip to the end.
Thanks Tim! I am glad you liked the video and happy to hear you will put it in your routine. Let me know how it goes! I am curious: Which part of the exercise did you skip to?
@@LisaLizTrombone From somewhere in the middle. If you are doubling with bass trombone would you do this with both bass and tenor or just one or the other? To develop low range could you play " Over the rainbow " upside down?
Tim Scofield I double on bass bone as well. When I am working on my bass trombone chops, I usually focus on lower register playing since that is where the majority of the music is written. Also, getting into the trigger register (F and D). So I take this same concept, and extend downward, one half step at a time. Haha, yes, you could totally flip Over the Rainbow upside down! I have never thought of that before! Or, you can pick another melody, anything you want!
Show off! 🤣 That's an insane range. I better get to work!
Lisa...parabéns...
Perfeito..☆☆☆☆☆
Fortaleza-Ce/ BRAZIL
Yes!
I have Wotch it
You Are nice musician 👋😘😘
Nice one just came across your video now
Wow wonderful
Step 1: play trumpet for 3 years
Step 2: start playing the trombone
Step 3: put those trumpet skills in trombone playing
Interesting! I have a trumpet that I play sometimes too, but I've never thought about using it to improve my high range on trombone. Do you play both?
Are you saying playing high while playing trombone? A really good tune to play A Nightingale Sang In Barkley Square.. up by half steps.. keep up the great work
Hehe well, that works too! 🤭 I love that tune! I’ll give it a try 😉 Here’s a trombone quartet video I played with some friends of that song. I was playing bass on this one! ua-cam.com/video/48MVv0PPY0Y/v-deo.html
Thank you,one of mine too,
Great Tip!!!
Impressive!
That was awesome!
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it 😊
Amazing
Thank
Hi Lisa, this Is a very cool video and extremely helpful ! Thank you so much !! May I just ask (clueless composer here), I have seen trombones notated in the tenor clef but in such heights, do you guys prefer the treble clef? I notate most instruments with an octave sign or in another clef when the ledger lines start becoming confusing but I've never seen trombones notated in a treble clef as in orchestration they usually don't go up there and I haven't reviewed much solo literature for this instrument. Thanks so much !!
Hello! So sorry for the late response time! In regards to clefs for trombones I have seen it all! In solo and orchestral rep you mainly see tenor clef for the high register and sometimes even alto clef. For jazz, show, and pop music I have seen bass clef with and 8va and treble clef. My personal preference is bass clef 8va, but I think you will find that preference will vary from trombonist to trombonist.
I fell in love 😜❤️❤️❤️
I have a King. 3B valve but would love a slide section for as well, also a Rath and a. Besson
Wow! I didn't know they made 3B valved versions! I would love to play that 😆 Good luck getting a slide for it too - they're the best! I love the nickel plating, it's so light. Sounds like you have quite the trombone collection!
@@LisaLizTrombone just acquired a soprano one.
@@mazadan nice!!! Where did you get it from? I would love to add one of these to my collection as well. Maybe someday 😊
@@LisaLizTrombone I got it from www.thomann.de/gb/other_trombones.html. For £88 plays well
@@mazadan that’s awesome! I’ll check out the link, thanks!
i love it！❤
Gostei. excelente para treinar meus agudos que não estão muito bons.
I am happy you liked it! Yes, this a great exercise for getting into the higher register. Give me a try and let me know how it goes. 😊
I also have another video like this on my channel using the melody from Swan Lake if you want to try it! ua-cam.com/video/NIwR1u7zrnc/v-deo.html
wow, beautiful!
Thank you Gonzalo 🙏 Did you give it a try?!
excelente
This is just so impressive. Thanks. Got work to do… :-)
Well it takes a lot of practice for sure! So… how’s it going?
Awesome
what type of mouthpiece do you use?
hi lisa what brand your trombone mouthpiece?
Hello! In this video I was playing a King 3B and a Bach 6 1/2AL. Now I am using a Bach 12C.
Bravissima 👍🏻
Here you take a melody that goes up an octave to the top note. The other one you chose from swan lake even starts on the high note. Would it not be advisable for a less able high player to take a melody that goes up step wise to the highest note?
That would totally be advisable! Going up step wise would be great. My “Joy to the World” video goes up the major scale, from the 5th... although, it’s not as fun to play Christmas music all year round haha. Do you have any favorite melodies that go up step wise?
@@LisaLizTrombone I like You dont know what love is. First I heard the Jimmy Cleveland version, which is impressive. Then I heard Sonny Rollins and I was blown away.
hi just realised after getting the practice track the sheet music is not included. How do i get a copy? Cheers Darian
Hi Darian. Please send me an email - lisaliztrombone@gmail.com and I can send you a copy. Thanks!
Amazing!,!
Hi Lisa, nice stuff!!
Thanks a lot, Joe. Thanks for watching! I have many more videos on my channel if you want to check them out. 😊Including more of these "How to play high" videos. I've made a series out of them!
So you said in 1 video thst playing high is about pointing your air down? However, when I get to high gs and as, I'm already pointing the air practically straight down. How do I go higher?
I have some students that find the pointing the air down analogy helpful. If you already feel like your air is straight down, maybe you will find another analogy more helpful? The thing that works the best for me personally is the "O" to "E" concept. I make the vowel shape O for lower notes, and as I go higher, I make the vowel shape E. This allows my tongue to raise higher in my mouth.
Hi, Lisa! I was wondering if you do some buzzing for warm ups or playing high exercises, if so, is there a routine you could share with us?
thanks for your videos, it's been very helpful.
Hey Rafael, thanks for your question. I am actually not a fan of buzzing on the mouthpiece and I almost never include it in my practice routine. I know there are two different schools of thought on this in the brass playing world. I guess you could say I am team "no buzz" haha. It is just so different than when you are actually playing the horn, I do not see the benefit.
However, I sometimes recommend mouthpiece buzzing to certain students if they are having trouble centering their pitches and cracking notes. I use the think, sing, buzz, play method and this usually helps them out. Just matching single pitches or a simple melody.
Check out these videos from Christian Lindberg. I agree with his views on this topic. I am curious to know what you think!
ua-cam.com/video/Fz5fow-pf68/v-deo.html
One more: ua-cam.com/video/d7XnY4wjF74/v-deo.html
@@LisaLizTrombone Hey !! Thanks for replying. I just watched both videos!
As a newbie Trombone player (I started like 2 years ago, I've never had played any bass instrument before), I did not know how divided trombonists were on this matter.
TBH, Christian seemed a little arrogant or overconfident on his view about this matter on the first video, BUT, of course, he's an ultra experienced player, it's not a common opinion, but it gave me the impression that it would be not only an error but a dumb thing to do so. Naturally, the internet reacted badly, therefore the second video. Anyway, I'm not criticizing him or whatever, just my impressions. I liked his point of view after all!
Funny thing, this video was listed as related: ua-cam.com/video/CqDy8G1d80I/v-deo.html
I found it interesting as well. Very controversial subject. I like it.
My point of view could be totally wrong, feel free to argue back, but here it goes...
One of my main dificulties is to develop lip resistance and reach high notes. I started blowing air late in my life, I activated my mouth muscles just recently, I feel kind of "outdated". My intention when I do free buzz (without the mouthpiece) is not only to reach the notes (I do it while I hear a drone or something, to keep in tune) but to work out and develop my mouth muscles. I also see it as a simple & fast way to warm up or keep the daily exercise, as we can't play trombone anywhere at anytime.
I'm very curious about your live tomorrow !! Thanks again.
ua-cam.com/video/SKBNeXKmXRw/v-deo.html
Very interesting as well!
Muito bom mesmo!
I may or may not have popped a blood vessel in my forehead going for the E.
Haha
Great exercise.
🤣🤣🤣 I literally just laughed out loud. I hope you’re ok 😉
Hello, I enjoyed your video, and starting playing a 1965 Conn Director I bought on eBay. At 68, this is my first brass instrument. I can hit the first F above middle C quite reliably, but it's very "hit or miss" for even the G. I'm taking lessons and practicing every day, although my instructor doesn't want me to "force" higher notes--for example, one exercise I have this week goes up to the G, and he just said "great if you reach it, but don't worry if you don't". I was wondering how long it takes to increase one's range if doing the exercises you've illustrated here--that is, for one to reach even the first B-flat above middle C and perhaps the F above it (i.e., an octave above where I am now). Are these notes something I might be able to play 6 months from now, or is it more like 6 years? I have somewhat of an overbite so my upper lip sticks out a bit over my lower so I tend to blow somewhat below horizontal, but it seems to work well for me. I especially like to play various marches, and can keep playing them higher.
My apologies for the late reply on this comment!
That's awesome to hear you're learning to play a brass instrument (especially the trombone 😉 ) at 68! That F to G you mentioned can be quite a hurdle to jump over, and it will take some time. I have another video you might find helpful, it goes into some concepts I like to think of when playing in the higher register. ua-cam.com/video/bqqOTHFG5fw/v-deo.html
The concept I find most helpful is changing the vowel shape in my mouth from "O" to "E" as I go higher. You might need a significant vowel change to get from that F to G. It will "feel" different on the inside of your mouth. Once you get that change, it's just slow practice and repetition.
As far as a timeline goes to comfortably play the high Bb and above, it's different for everyone. I started playing trombone the summer before my freshman year of high school and I would say the high Bb wasn't comfortable until I got to college and was playing those notes regularly. So about 4 years there. It wasn't until my masters that I really started doing exercises like this to go for the high F and beyond. So add a few more years.
However, adding in high range practice from the beginning might have yielded faster results? You'll just have to see what works for you!
@@LisaLizTrombone Thank you very much! I've been playing some songs and passages that incorporate the G, and sometimes I hit it. One day I actually touched the B flat. Mostly for fun, I bought a cheap trumpet mouthpiece, a French horn mouthpieces and a tube mouthpiece to see what happens. It's easier to hit the higher notes with both of the small mouthpieces (and with trumpet mouthpiece the trombone actually sounds much like a trumpet, at least from my perspective, while playing it). However, I believe this simply shows I could play those notes on the respective instruments. (The tuba mouthpiece doesn't fit, so I will need to find a way to couple it to the trombone, and see if I can get the lowest pedal tones easily besides just the low B flat and sometimes the A and a flat.) In any case, I'm making some progress even with the trombone's own mouthpiece. I'm traveling right now, but I'll watch your suggested video when I get home if not earlier. Thanks, again, for your suggestions!
Truly every day for this? I was taught somewhere to alternate hard- practice days with easy-practice days to allow recovery, and perhaps I have misinterpreted that to mean I work my high range every OTHER day. I have to say it has not been that effective.
I used to do exercises like this everyday when I was in college. Now that I’ve built up the range, I feel it stays pretty well as long as I do stuff like this a couple times a week. When I’m playing and gigging a lot, I tend to do exercises like this less. It’s all about what works well with you and your schedule!
I need trombone pentatonic
Great video and embouchure!!
Thank you Peter! This is my first time making a play-along video in this style. I am thinking of making it a series if people like it? 🤔
As far as the embouchure goes: I actually taught myself how to play trombone (right before I went to high school) and that’s just what I came up with. I have never really thought much about my embouchure or the mechanics behind it. I’ve always been more of a “concept of sound” kind of player. That if you have the sound in mind, your body will do what it needs to do to produce that sound. I know it’s a huge topic among brass players and you made a video on embouchure recently! Very interesting topic.
@@LisaLizTrombone Great approach! Seems like you haven't run into any major issues with this setup and that it has worked out very well for you.
I did skip to the end too!! Nice lesson
Marcano Music thank you, I am glad you liked it! I like to play my “high register” exercises/melodies throughout the entire register of the horn to build strength. But yes, I know some people will skip to the end or start in the middle! The low notes are there if you want them 😊 #options
Excelente!!!!
Impressive.
Thank you! Give it a try 😉BTW - I have a new video like this one coming out on Friday. Same concept, except it uses the melody to Swan Lake.
Lisa Liz Trombone I’m getting back to playing after a long hiatus since changing majors from jazz performance back in ‘98. I am a new subscriber and will definitely keep up with your videos. Thank you for sharing.
I like it!
That's Good!
Thank you! Haha, I just replied to your other comment to come watch this video. I see you found it! 😉
Like a BOSS
Tao, I know you have another octave on this! Or more! 🤣🤣🤣
@@LisaLizTrombone lol only to bury the trumpets 😂
@@tao88h The Bone Zone’s favorite hobby!!!
Do you use your tongue?
Gostaria que vc falasse em português kkkk a minha curiosidade é grande de saber o que vc está falando professora.
Ciao sono un trombonista Italiano
God dang that tone quality, I can maybe sound good on an F above the staff, on a good day lol
The more you play high Fs, the more you'll have those good days! 😉
Why didn't you slur the octaves?
You can definitely slur the octave for an added challenge and to work on your lip slurs! I like to try it both ways.
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Muito bom!!👏👏👏👏
Thank you very much! I just released a new video today, if you want to check it out! ua-cam.com/video/qqgz9lgC5Ug/v-deo.html
I am a trumpet player and I am spying on your technique! Ha!
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As a 🎺 player U enjoyed the last 3 keys. 😏
The Trumpets are calling, they want back their high notes😂
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I love u baby😘😘 thank u its cool method
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Too bad. I was hoping to find some more basic info here when I saw the title. I am unable to play even slightly higher tones, my trombone teacher could not tell me why. In fact, I do not even know if it is a technique issue, if my anatomy makes it impossible or if this is a general problem every beginner has? Since I do not even know that I stopped taking lessons and have not touched my trombone anymore. I read a lot about embochure and tried all sorts of variations with my lips but no change. In the end I was more focused on how to form my lips than anything else, making things even more complicated. Had the same issue on trumpet and I switched to trombone as it had a bigger mouth piece, hoping that might help (and it does a little bit). I cannot even whistle higher tones, not sure if that is related. Other people gave me useless advice "oh everyone got to figure that out by themselves" while I saw little kids who played it all naturally.
Wow.. Salute.. can I.. lol..
I for some reason am gifted with the power of absurd high notes but it was fun to follow along!
bruh why you got like giygas playing in the background
What's giygas?
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Ooo
Does that mean you like it? 😉 Or is that a bad “ooo”? Lol
i stopped playing high two years ago. the weed made me go too much out of rythm