@@als-ko6oe she’s not. She sings opera as a hobby. She has some classical training, sure, but she definitely wouldn’t be ready for a real Opera performance. Her skill level is that of a freshmen in a college vocal performance program.
honestly i find it hilarious how kpopies love acting like they are vocal coaches and dance teachers when they know nothing. lmao. Specially the ones that think popularity = talent / quality
@@wookjins1supporter132 right? While gowon doesn't have the typical trained voice, the colour of her voice is so unique and every song she sings on she brings a certain charm to it. That's just as important as technique.
I can maybe get why someone would think the members of LOONA can’t sing (they’re still wrong, but sometimes the only videos you see of a group are when they’re having bad vocal days) but if you’re saying they can’t dance you have to be either literally blind or willfully ignorant.
Every group has bad vocal days and weaker vocals overall. So I totally agree. It also doesn't help that the line distributions don't really do justice to many members. I think LOONA are slowly getting more confident and are improving everytime we see them. At the end of the day, they even said it themselves, they're a performance-based group. And that's by far their best quality. 🤗
Loona are easily the best and most complex dancing group out there. There are individual dancers better than Loona's best (Yves and Olivia) but as a unit no one I've seen tops them. Anyone that says they can't dance has an opinion that can be thrown in the trash.
Unpopular opinion here: They don't sing live as often whilst dancing which would be okay IF their dancing was top notch. But in my opinion it's not. Most of their dances are lackluster and don't have as much energy as needed. Butterfly fitted the way they can dance, elegantly, but why not and so what needed more tight movements. Some members from Loona are good, but most don't have any stage presence. Ofcourse you can still have your opinion, but maybe this clears up why people might not always agree
@@LOONATE i became a part of the fandom by listening to her solo. And was wondering why people disliked her and her song. Damn Twitter was so toxic during that time and I remembered most (if not all) ranking videos here on UA-cam putting her solo to last because it's too mediocre. I feel devastated bc the flashbacks- t'was a hard time then specially bc she's my bias
@@orbitwastaken5292 ugh, I know right? And it's odd cuz her solo is one of my favorites! It's so catchy, the lyrics are so meaningful, and she sounds precious. 🥺💓
@@LOONATE same like literally her voice is so gentle and pleasing to her and this was only just a solo with lore plot going on. It wasn't a performing song where you can show your skills off, but fine, haters can cry in a corner, while loona is on a winning streak 💅
I feel offended because there is no Yeojin in this comment and as someone who has Yeojin as my biaswrecker...how could you possibly leave her out like that
@@shrutis yall i can NOT wait to slap the korean music industry in the face with this comebacks impact...they want their monopoly? Too bad loona are communists
there's this chemestry with chuulip while they're singing, its just so beautiful to hear, i really hope bbc gave them a ballad or something together, still cant move on from the i see the light cover even if its not included in the video
It's so touching because they're school friends even before debut. They must have dreamt of it together as kids, and look at them now! Holding the trophy with their arms around each other from their first win!
*sorry for my English* All loonas members can sing, but in live performance with their difficult choreography it's hard to sing clear, and they use pre-record, I'm not shaming loonas members, it's okay. Yes, maybe not everyone in loona has a strong voice (like Vivi, her voice is very beautiful and unique, but not strong at all), but they can sing.
You saw the future with this comment, watching their # stages it's obvious Chuu is struggling to hit her high notes later in So What, the choreography just don't give them enough time to rest while at the same time having a crazy bridge and really late high notes.
@Saynnyeong I think they used backing tracks? Some sound live and some don't,, but also in # era they were being overworked so that is probably another reason,,
LOONATE no not that,it was more laid back it didn’t have sny vocal parts and in fact it was actually not even straining bcz the song only had upper register(falsetto and head voice parts) and they used the members who are really confident in that register liek Haseul Kim Lip etc they all had that prechorus i think so compared to Hi High it had way less vocals and less strain bcz the notes were just not really high
@@izonexbae I agree that the song didn't have any big vocal moments. However, I didn't find the song flattering for many of their voices. Most of them couldn't even hit the notes live, even the stronger vocalists. Granted, it's hard to hit such notes when dancing at their level. But the high notes were VERY high. And definitely out of range for members like HyunJin and YeoJin. I felt it wasn't flattering for many of them. But it's still a great song! I'm hoping "So What" is more on the deeper side.
The positions you stated are wrong according to BBC there is no main vocalist, main dancer, main rapper, visual or center! The only members who have positions are (HaSeul: Leader & YeoJin: Maknae) BBC stated that loona members are constantly switching positions & if we give a permanent position to a member it will be unfair to the other girls who are constantly working hard & improving! also BBC planned that the center will change every year so 2018 (Hi High/favOriTe) HeeJin was the center & 2019 (Butterfly) HyunJin was the center. (this all happened when loona were preparing for their debut)
Haseul isn't the official leader either, though. She's the 1/3 sub-unit Leader. We have yet to see the non 1/3 girls refer to her as "their leader", let alone see Kim Lip and Yves (the other sub-units leaders) refer to her as such. It seems the group will work with 3 leaders, each one dealing with their own set of girls (their sub-unit). I for one don't think it would be such a bad idea to set permanent positions (well, they can change in a few years if some of the girls make drastic improvements in some categories, or any other circumstances). It would clear up a lot of debates. I know LOONA likes to be *unique* and *different*, but like 90% of the whole K-Pop scene have fixed positions, it wouldn't really hurt them at all.
@@a.t.6610 Well out of the three members you mentioned HaSeul is the only one who is stated as the leader in OT12 eras by BBC itself + ViVi said what they have shown to orbits isn't even 10% of what they actually have so It's obvious that BBC can't rank the girls! In my opinion I can't really choose anyone as the main dancer, main vocalist or main rapper cuz all of them are almost equally good
Nasir's Kpop Do you happen to have a link of an official source from BBC stating that? I’m a pretty huge fan, have been since before debut, and I don’t remember seeing that on BBC’s part. Just curious to see where I missed it. :) (The Vivi thing I’ve seen, I think. That’s what I meant by Haseul not being called a leader by any of the non 1/3 girls. Which makes things really confusing/obscure, because we can’t know 100% for sure if the 1/3 girls refer to Haseul as their leader (as the 1/3 sub-unit) or for the full group. )
A. T. Haseul is literally the leader of LOONA overall, this has been stated multiple times through LOONA TV and said by Haseul herself. Any real orbit knows this
Not about singing but: Guys I found a comment on UA-cam that said Loona wasn't synchronized in Butterfly or their dance covers. And I just want to say...what a clown. Anyway, about singing: Loona has amazing vocalists and some of them, especially Gowon and Vivi, are being slept on. Gowon has a rather childlike voice, which leads people to believe that she's not a good vocalist. However, in my opinion, she can utilize her voice well. Of course, she's not a perfect vocalist, but it's not a "she can't sing" situation lmao. (Also, cRunCh.) Vivi is very underrated. Technique-wise, she's obviously not perfect. However, she has a beautiful tone. These two need more attention! (Mkay now I'm going to rant about the other members, just wanted to give these two some more attention because they're so underrated. Of course they're not perfect, but, again, it's not a "she can't sing" kind of thing. Also, to the person who said they're not sure where Gowon's talent lies: I would say that she is strongest in dancing. Gowon is a great dancer. Vivi, as said before, is a soft vocalist who has a very pleasant voice to listen to.) Heejin - Heejin has a wonderful tone as well. She has a great range and is able to sustain high notes. Although she sometimes has some tuning issues, she is still a wonderful vocalist. Hyunjin - Hyunjin has a nasal and airy voice, but because of her breathing control it doesn't sound too airy and is pleasant to hear. Haseul - Haseul has trained in opera and is obviously very amazing technique-wise. The reason why she can sometimes sound a little airy to uncultured people is because she uses her head voice often. All in all, Haseul can sustain high notes very easily, has great technique, and is able to utilize her head voice, chest voice, and falsetto. Yeojin - Yeojin is a very underrated vocalist. She's able to belt and her voice has been rather impressive ever since she was 14. Yeojin has a good range and I admire how she can keep so much energy in her voice. Kim Lip - Lip has a beautiful tone. Her voice is rather unique (in a good way) and she is able to hit high notes well. Her voice seems to suit her concept perfectly and I think she is a wonderful vocalist. Jinsoul - Jinsoul is a great vocalist. Her voice sounds rather mature (Idk how to explain it) and she has also proven that she can hit high notes as well. She also has a lot of emotion in her voice (it's not shown so well in Loona's songs, but in this one fan meeting she sings this song and captures the emotions very well). Choerry - Choerry has a soft yet powerful voice. (I don't really know how to explain this, I'm sorry.) Her tone is very pleasant to hear and her voice seems to suit any concept. Yves - Yves has an amazing tone as well. Her voice is a little sharper than some of the other girls, which provides a nice contrast. She can also belt very well. Chuu - Chuu is a powerhouse vocal. She is a high notes goddess and has a very strong voice, although it can sound delicate as well. I would say that she is also another girl that is able to capture emotions in her voice well. Olivia Hye - Olivia is a good vocalist but I think that she has the same issue as Gowon where she has a rather child-like voice. (They are soulmates. Hyewon uwu.) However, as said above, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Olivia has a great range and is a good vocalist.
I like to think that Hyunjin is in a similar situation as NCT Jaehyun (also Around You and his SM Station Try Again give me such the same vibes that if one goes into a playlist, the other is sure to follow lol). They have deeper, creamy (?), rich, and smooth voices (lol it sounds like I’m talking about the ideal latte or hot chocolate) that are perfect for gentlely coaxing you to sleep but are sadly underutilized because their voices don’t always work well with their concept, or even more specifically, the higher notes their songs are composed for. Their dancing and rap are also sadly under appreciated and people tend to only talk about their visuals :( Also stream Around You and Try Again, for some reason they aren’t so liked by their fandoms :(((((
somehow i’ve never seen that clip of yeojin at hertz... her voice is so sweet, i hope she can get more lines that show off more of that! i literally cant get over it the nation’s maknae has no weak spots except for tall shelves
LMAOOO DID THEY NOT SEE WHAT LOONA DID ON THE CHARTS? AN UNPROMOTED, MV-LESS SONG (365) GOT #1, A ~8 MONTH OLD ALBUM GOT BACK ON THE CHARTS (XX),,, i could go on for hours about what these women did.
*edit* guys, the positions are just for reference. It's been brought to my attention many times that they don't have official positions. my info is from kprofiles and is just there to be helpful, even if not official. 🥰 all the clips are linked in the description.
jinsoul surprised me when i first became an orbit. i thought she was JUST a rapper, so i assumed she wasn't that good at singing. then i heard love letter…. and from then on, i KNEW i was wrong
This video made me realize how beautiful Choerry’s vocals are !! They are insane !! Like I always loved her vocals but the clips you chose were literally amazing! Also that first clip you showed of Jinsoul she looked godly
are loona the most skilled singers out there? NO! they’re still young and learning and improving but still amazing and sound great..people who say they cant sing confuse me
The haters are def. I can admit that some of they don't sing so well like the others but they CAN sing. Loona is not perfect and is okay, the group is going to be better with the years. I'm also a twice stan and i was seeing the progress of the girls, is just time
Oh totally, I feel the same way. All the girls can sing. But some are weaker, just like in any group. They all have things they're strong at and improve constantly! 🥰
LOONA Studio really helped establish the girls as great vocalists imo. BBC struck gold with 12 main vocalists, 12 main dancers, 12 main visuals and 11 main rappers. I AM EMOTIONAL.
honestly i find it hilarious how kpopies love acting like they are vocal coaches and dance teachers when they know nothing. lmao. Specially the ones that think popularity = talent / quality.
"LOONA CAN'T SING" Haseul: Take my cheese -fights in opera- Jiwoo: Take my Yves -fights with the high note of Hi High- All the girls: Take my loonaverse -fights in "we debuted with solos, your fav wish"-
It's weird how people become absolute music experts on social media, right? Some LOONA members don't have strong vocals but they CAN definitely sing. They deliver melodies hitting the right notes in tune, and that's the easiest way to prove they can sing. You might not like some member's voice, the way they rap, the emotions they convey while singing, their vocal color, etc., but they're doing their job perfectly fine. If you don't like it then don't listen to it instead of trying to hate on them, it can't get easier than this.
People confuse the fact that having an airy voice doesnt equal not being able to sing, all loona girls have extereme visuals, loads of dance talent and very good vocals.
Edit: time stamp 11:00 I love how confident Yeojin sounds here, I wish she had more parts like this and her line in Satellite where her voice isn't forced to be cute and high pitched
Classical musicians (we know who i'm talking about :D ), Vocal Coaches and Teachers have reacted to their stuff - actually qualified people, just remember that hate blinds, this is why haters always sound idiotic and are alot of the times wrong. Spread Love
I sadly didn’t like her voice (or Eclipse for that matter) at first but once my ears adjusted to LOONA’s sound, I got to appreciate it a lot more. I generally have a preference to soft, velvety voices like SHINee’s Taemin, Day6’s Jae, and our dear Hyunjin in first impression tho so maybe it’s because hers is the polar opposite of theirs that’s why it took a while to “get” it.
There is already a lot of videos that prove them wrong. Those people just need to take 5min of their time to check them out on UA-cam So... Actually they are one of the talented rookie group considering that they are 12 with 8 clear vocalist and 4 stable vocals. If you don't agree... let's compare
the thing that people don't seem to get is that, while vivi/gowon/olivia hye aren't the most incredible singers, they all have a really unique and beautiful tone that adds to loona's colour as a whole. if you took out any of the members with 'weak vocals', loona wouldn't have the same sound or appeal. plus i really don't understand what people mean by 'can't sing'. like the members are all in tune, have a strong range and some form of technique, so they can DEFINITELY sing
Heejin: deep but also „girly” nice voice. Idk how to describe it but. Ugh queen Hyunjin: such a cute and „melody” voice. Like... her voice is so beautiful Haseul: opera singer but can go deep omg legend and an icon Yeojin: deep and unique voice!!! We want more of her btw Vivi: very nice voice i cant:( edily&ediny outsold Kimlip: very unique and pretty voice:) legend wbk Jinsoul: strong vocals!!! Amazing:) Choerry: not only cute voice, but also very melodic and pretty like. Girl omg how u can be THAT talented:( my baby amazing Kimlip: deep and strong voice. Such a queen:) Chuu: no caption here. Everyone knows jiwoo CAN sing. And that she is a vocal queen(with haseul but haseul underrated) Gowon: very lovely voice!!! We love that song Hyeju: unique and pretty voice. She can go high and deep omg. Yes go off legend
I like how they can sing with Emotions, most Idols don't know how to do that and they sound really bland and their highnotes sound the same in every song. But in Loona every song has a different emotion and they know how to bring that Emotion out, especially Choerry she's very underrated.
I always come back to this video, just because I'm so nostalgic for the good ol loona days... (Not that the days now are bad, but those days back then were good in a different way~)
Haseul, Yves and Hyunjin have my favorite voices in the group. Haseul is unique and perfect, Yves is rich and addictive, Hyunjin is soft and beautiful... they fit their solos and roles in the Loonaverse so well. BBC made an amazing job finding variety in the members...
Even though Gowon and Vivi are some of the weaker vocalists of loona, they're still pretty capable and the fact that they're able to manage their own single is better than some idols in kpop today
they can definitely sing, but a big problem in kpop is that idols don't perform live anymore. and even if they do, a lot of videos of them performing live sound more perfect bc the audio is fixed with autotuning. more companies should be focused on giving their idols proper vocal training and breath control, so they can sing while they dance. and for the more difficult dances, the onces where singing during dancing is almost impossible, it's ok if they sing it all live but the industry (not just kpop, pop in general) should stop focusing on perfection and start focusing on bettering the skills of their idols. right now, haseul, kim lip and chuu are probably loona's biggest vocalists (even if haseul is underused) and i wish the company just let them sing live more. even in their recent concert, i could hear that a lot of the "live singing" was kinda fixed with autotune. and i'm not hating on the members!!! they're all very skilled!!! it's not their fault.
Yeah the industry's obsession with perfection is what keeps screwing groups like Aespa over, SM doesn't let them sing live despite them being very capable as Choachella showed us, and it's just sad to see that performances just focus on dancing even in some groups with simple choreo
Thx for uploading this , some people were talking abt 4gen vocalists and I said that loona was I good vocal group, that acted like a vocal coach and said that Chuu and Yves falsetto was not stable and bla bla bla , i just send a bunch of links and this video's
I know Loona can sing but I feel that they need to control their vocals more. The talent is there but BBC's vocal trainers need to bring Loona to their full potential.
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"Loona can't sing"
Haseul: *lowkey highkey an opera singer in training*
I'm sure Haseul WAS an opera singer at one point
not even in training my guy she IS
@@als-ko6oe she’s not. She sings opera as a hobby. She has some classical training, sure, but she definitely wouldn’t be ready for a real Opera performance. Her skill level is that of a freshmen in a college vocal performance program.
@@applepie7520 I think haseul performed opera live before?
The point is she can sing
I love how these people in the beggining acts like they're vocal coaches or sumn.
@rosxwood
I’ll come. I live in England so we don’t have Target, I’ll still fly over just to knock the bitch out though
@rosxwood
I’ll come. I live in England so we don’t have Target, I’ll still fly over just to knock the bitch out though
honestly i find it hilarious how kpopies love acting like they are vocal coaches and dance teachers when they know nothing. lmao.
Specially the ones that think popularity = talent / quality
right everyone has a different technique of singing and dancing just because you don't like their style doesnt mean that they cant sing
@@wookjins1supporter132 right? While gowon doesn't have the typical trained voice, the colour of her voice is so unique and every song she sings on she brings a certain charm to it. That's just as important as technique.
Loona the first kpop girl group to have a number one song and album on iTunes in US
really??
@@hey3301 yes they are 😭😭
Hahahaaa who's selling albums now @ losers in the beginning of the video
3rd actually, 1st girl group not being in the top 3.
Carlos Rangel 3rd for albums, first for both albums and single song.
I can maybe get why someone would think the members of LOONA can’t sing (they’re still wrong, but sometimes the only videos you see of a group are when they’re having bad vocal days) but if you’re saying they can’t dance you have to be either literally blind or willfully ignorant.
Every group has bad vocal days and weaker vocals overall. So I totally agree. It also doesn't help that the line distributions don't really do justice to many members. I think LOONA are slowly getting more confident and are improving everytime we see them. At the end of the day, they even said it themselves, they're a performance-based group. And that's by far their best quality. 🤗
Yeah,wait for So What choregraphy,the hardest choreo on kpop.
Loona are easily the best and most complex dancing group out there. There are individual dancers better than Loona's best (Yves and Olivia) but as a unit no one I've seen tops them. Anyone that says they can't dance has an opinion that can be thrown in the trash.
Taylor Huston-Allen exactly
Unpopular opinion here: They don't sing live as often whilst dancing which would be okay IF their dancing was top notch. But in my opinion it's not. Most of their dances are lackluster and don't have as much energy as needed. Butterfly fitted the way they can dance, elegantly, but why not and so what needed more tight movements. Some members from Loona are good, but most don't have any stage presence.
Ofcourse you can still have your opinion, but maybe this clears up why people might not always agree
Haseul literally study music. She's an opera singer.
Not only her, Jinsoul is graduated in music and specialized in vocals
no, music study haseul
@@yamilbazan3896 yes💅💅💅💅
Majority of this being GoWon slander during her solo MV release :(
I remember the hate she got during her era. She almost immediately became my yyxy bias. 🥰
@@LOONATE i became a part of the fandom by listening to her solo. And was wondering why people disliked her and her song. Damn Twitter was so toxic during that time and I remembered most (if not all) ranking videos here on UA-cam putting her solo to last because it's too mediocre.
I feel devastated bc the flashbacks- t'was a hard time then specially bc she's my bias
@@orbitwastaken5292 ugh, I know right? And it's odd cuz her solo is one of my favorites! It's so catchy, the lyrics are so meaningful, and she sounds precious. 🥺💓
@@LOONATE same like literally her voice is so gentle and pleasing to her and this was only just a solo with lore plot going on. It wasn't a performing song where you can show your skills off, but fine, haters can cry in a corner, while loona is on a winning streak 💅
@@yunonono3495 AMEN
Literally every. Single. Member. Has a solo. Of course they can sing. You guys are just deaf. Periodt
Heejin, Deep jazzy voice
Hyunjin, Calming sweet voice
Haseul, Strong melodic voice
Yeojin, Charming powerful voice
Vivi, Soft cutesy voice
Kim Lip, Beautiful high voice
Jinsoul, Concistent emotional voice
Choerry, Versatile girly voice
Yves, Soulful sensual voice
Chuu, Gifted amazing voice
GoWon, Sweet unique voice
Olivia Hye, Cute High voice
Such good descriptions! But the lack of YeoJin offends my YeoJin stanning ass. 😩😂
I think you mean Gowon, Crunchy voice 😉😂
I feel offended because there is no Yeojin in this comment and as someone who has Yeojin as my biaswrecker...how could you possibly leave her out like that
@@LOONATE Omg sorryy, i added her ^^
@@sssourwav Really sorry, i added her ^^
If Yeojin had power behind her voice, she would end up sounding a lot like BOA. She got that natural 90s-2000s nasally voice
what do you mean by power? I mean, i'm not trying to sound roud, i just don't know XD
@@sunbleachedfIies I think they mean more confidence/breath support
Jinsoul make funny faces while singing.
Lol, I love her singing faces. They're adorable. 😂🥰
And that's why she's my ult. bias
bc she’s a belting queen
Sis belongs to Broadway cuz she's dramatic when singing and easy crier lol
those funny faces is her devoting her entire body to her voice and performance... not really something to make fun of
jinsouls singing expressions are so cute it's like she's always trying to hold back a big smile
isn't she precious? she's so passionate when she sings and you can feel the message without even understanding korean. she's so talented! 🥺
They only stan groups in Big3 entertainments and noy acknowledge the talented groups from unknown entertainments even in the music shows what a shame
Or BTS lmao
I'm army too but some of them just...
Roflss Gggg it is honestly frustrating tho.
FACT
@@shrutis yall i can NOT wait to slap the korean music industry in the face with this comebacks impact...they want their monopoly? Too bad loona are communists
exactly especially now that bighit is attempting to buy other companies i think we can add their fans here;; they think they’re vocal geniuses
Clowns:
They can’t sell anything
Orbits meanwhile trying to buy all the albums, because they’re out of print
Istg if they underestimated the preorders again I’m gonna scream
then we got people in hella bidding wars on ebay tryna get the scrap skajfasfjafj
Bruh loona is literally one of the most popular ggs right now what-
fr tho, but I got a ++ normal b version on amazon for 30 dollars
@@sodiumchloride3040 They're still not popular in Korea which is a shame :'/
there's this chemestry with chuulip while they're singing, its just so beautiful to hear, i really hope bbc gave them a ballad or something together, still cant move on from the i see the light cover even if its not included in the video
It was originally in the video. But it got blocked from all countries. So I had to reupload. 😭 That's one of my favorite loona vocal moments.
lesbians really be like that
It's so touching because they're school friends even before debut. They must have dreamt of it together as kids, and look at them now! Holding the trophy with their arms around each other from their first win!
I will never forget hyunjin heejin and haseul covering love letter on loona birth!!
Everytime Jinsoul sings my heart explodes, how can one human be so gorgeous
She always sings with so much emotion. 🥺💓 Shes amazing!
Same here, stan JinSoul stan perfection😭😭💕💕💕
*sorry for my English*
All loonas members can sing, but in live performance with their difficult choreography it's hard to sing clear, and they use pre-record, I'm not shaming loonas members, it's okay. Yes, maybe not everyone in loona has a strong voice (like Vivi, her voice is very beautiful and unique, but not strong at all), but they can sing.
Yes! That's exactly how I feel. 🥰
Couldn't have put it better myself
You saw the future with this comment, watching their # stages it's obvious Chuu is struggling to hit her high notes later in So What, the choreography just don't give them enough time to rest while at the same time having a crazy bridge and really late high notes.
@Saynnyeong I think they used backing tracks? Some sound live and some don't,, but also in # era they were being overworked so that is probably another reason,,
...Some people are deaf, what can we do about it?
Anyways Loona vocal dance visual rap queens soty is dropping 5th february
I think hyunjin has a very charming and breathy voice. It’s so calm and sweet I wish to se her sing more
She has some of my favorite vocals! 🥰
"Not a single one of the girls can sing" Well clearly, you've never heard any of their songs.
They deaf, hearing impaired, and jealous
Bruh they need to clean their ears or smth. Like bruh get a q-tip luv 💅
@@honneurauventi LMFAOOOO
chuulicious _ it won’t help them, their ears are messed up *_periodt_* 😫
@@assa7425 you're right 🗿
@Stan loona then they can't hear talent 😭
gowons voice is literally so soothing, even if she couldn't sing, her just speaking is beautiful.
Gowon asmr-
As much as I love Butterfly, it did not show their vocal ranges
Agreed, it was more straining on their vocals.
LOONATE
no not that,it was more laid back it didn’t have sny vocal parts and in fact it was actually not even straining bcz the song only had upper register(falsetto and head voice parts) and they used the members who are really confident in that register liek Haseul Kim Lip etc they all had that prechorus i think so compared to Hi High it had way less vocals and less strain bcz the notes were just not really high
@@izonexbae I agree that the song didn't have any big vocal moments. However, I didn't find the song flattering for many of their voices. Most of them couldn't even hit the notes live, even the stronger vocalists. Granted, it's hard to hit such notes when dancing at their level. But the high notes were VERY high. And definitely out of range for members like HyunJin and YeoJin. I felt it wasn't flattering for many of them. But it's still a great song! I'm hoping "So What" is more on the deeper side.
LOONATE yes❤️
LOONATE yes❤️
The positions you stated are wrong according to BBC there is no main vocalist, main dancer, main rapper, visual or center! The only members who have positions are (HaSeul: Leader & YeoJin: Maknae)
BBC stated that loona members are constantly switching positions & if we give a permanent position to a member it will be unfair to the other girls who are constantly working hard & improving! also BBC planned that the center will change every year so 2018 (Hi High/favOriTe) HeeJin was the center & 2019 (Butterfly) HyunJin was the center. (this all happened when loona were preparing for their debut)
Thank you!! The positions are general guesses from kprofiles and I thought they'd be useful for reference at the very least. 🥰
Haseul isn't the official leader either, though. She's the 1/3 sub-unit Leader. We have yet to see the non 1/3 girls refer to her as "their leader", let alone see Kim Lip and Yves (the other sub-units leaders) refer to her as such. It seems the group will work with 3 leaders, each one dealing with their own set of girls (their sub-unit).
I for one don't think it would be such a bad idea to set permanent positions (well, they can change in a few years if some of the girls make drastic improvements in some categories, or any other circumstances). It would clear up a lot of debates.
I know LOONA likes to be *unique* and *different*, but like 90% of the whole K-Pop scene have fixed positions, it wouldn't really hurt them at all.
@@a.t.6610 Well out of the three members you mentioned HaSeul is the only one who is stated as the leader in OT12 eras by BBC itself + ViVi said what they have shown to orbits isn't even 10% of what they actually have so It's obvious that BBC can't rank the girls! In my opinion I can't really choose anyone as the main dancer, main vocalist or main rapper cuz all of them are almost equally good
Nasir's Kpop Do you happen to have a link of an official source from BBC stating that? I’m a pretty huge fan, have been since before debut, and I don’t remember seeing that on BBC’s part. Just curious to see where I missed it. :)
(The Vivi thing I’ve seen, I think. That’s what I meant by Haseul not being called a leader by any of the non 1/3 girls. Which makes things really confusing/obscure, because we can’t know 100% for sure if the 1/3 girls refer to Haseul as their leader (as the 1/3 sub-unit) or for the full group. )
A. T. Haseul is literally the leader of LOONA overall, this has been stated multiple times through LOONA TV and said by Haseul herself. Any real orbit knows this
no one
not a single soul
people who hates groups because they are popular: they cant sing tho hehe
Not about singing but: Guys I found a comment on UA-cam that said Loona wasn't synchronized in Butterfly or their dance covers. And I just want to say...what a clown.
Anyway, about singing: Loona has amazing vocalists and some of them, especially Gowon and Vivi, are being slept on. Gowon has a rather childlike voice, which leads people to believe that she's not a good vocalist. However, in my opinion, she can utilize her voice well. Of course, she's not a perfect vocalist, but it's not a "she can't sing" situation lmao. (Also, cRunCh.) Vivi is very underrated. Technique-wise, she's obviously not perfect. However, she has a beautiful tone. These two need more attention!
(Mkay now I'm going to rant about the other members, just wanted to give these two some more attention because they're so underrated. Of course they're not perfect, but, again, it's not a "she can't sing" kind of thing. Also, to the person who said they're not sure where Gowon's talent lies: I would say that she is strongest in dancing. Gowon is a great dancer. Vivi, as said before, is a soft vocalist who has a very pleasant voice to listen to.)
Heejin - Heejin has a wonderful tone as well. She has a great range and is able to sustain high notes. Although she sometimes has some tuning issues, she is still a wonderful vocalist.
Hyunjin - Hyunjin has a nasal and airy voice, but because of her breathing control it doesn't sound too airy and is pleasant to hear.
Haseul - Haseul has trained in opera and is obviously very amazing technique-wise. The reason why she can sometimes sound a little airy to uncultured people is because she uses her head voice often. All in all, Haseul can sustain high notes very easily, has great technique, and is able to utilize her head voice, chest voice, and falsetto.
Yeojin - Yeojin is a very underrated vocalist. She's able to belt and her voice has been rather impressive ever since she was 14. Yeojin has a good range and I admire how she can keep so much energy in her voice.
Kim Lip - Lip has a beautiful tone. Her voice is rather unique (in a good way) and she is able to hit high notes well. Her voice seems to suit her concept perfectly and I think she is a wonderful vocalist.
Jinsoul - Jinsoul is a great vocalist. Her voice sounds rather mature (Idk how to explain it) and she has also proven that she can hit high notes as well. She also has a lot of emotion in her voice (it's not shown so well in Loona's songs, but in this one fan meeting she sings this song and captures the emotions very well).
Choerry - Choerry has a soft yet powerful voice. (I don't really know how to explain this, I'm sorry.) Her tone is very pleasant to hear and her voice seems to suit any concept.
Yves - Yves has an amazing tone as well. Her voice is a little sharper than some of the other girls, which provides a nice contrast. She can also belt very well.
Chuu - Chuu is a powerhouse vocal. She is a high notes goddess and has a very strong voice, although it can sound delicate as well. I would say that she is also another girl that is able to capture emotions in her voice well.
Olivia Hye - Olivia is a good vocalist but I think that she has the same issue as Gowon where she has a rather child-like voice. (They are soulmates. Hyewon uwu.) However, as said above, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Olivia has a great range and is a good vocalist.
Omg, an intellectual. 😩💓
I like to think that Hyunjin is in a similar situation as NCT Jaehyun (also Around You and his SM Station Try Again give me such the same vibes that if one goes into a playlist, the other is sure to follow lol). They have deeper, creamy (?), rich, and smooth voices (lol it sounds like I’m talking about the ideal latte or hot chocolate) that are perfect for gentlely coaxing you to sleep but are sadly underutilized because their voices don’t always work well with their concept, or even more specifically, the higher notes their songs are composed for. Their dancing and rap are also sadly under appreciated and people tend to only talk about their visuals :(
Also stream Around You and Try Again, for some reason they aren’t so liked by their fandoms :(((((
Antis: LoOnA cAn’T sInG
LOONA : *hold my butterfly*
GoWon is lesbian
somehow i’ve never seen that clip of yeojin at hertz... her voice is so sweet, i hope she can get more lines that show off more of that! i literally cant get over it the nation’s maknae has no weak spots except for tall shelves
"No weak spots except for tall shelves." 🤧 I love that. And isnt her voice lovely? She just needs more confidence in herself!
LMAOOO DID THEY NOT SEE WHAT LOONA DID ON THE CHARTS? AN UNPROMOTED, MV-LESS SONG (365) GOT #1, A ~8 MONTH OLD ALBUM GOT BACK ON THE CHARTS (XX),,, i could go on for hours about what these women did.
Some of them haven’t seen heejin’s full moon cover and it shows
*edit* guys, the positions are just for reference. It's been brought to my attention many times that they don't have official positions. my info is from kprofiles and is just there to be helpful, even if not official. 🥰
all the clips are linked in the description.
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@@yo_yeojin omg, yay! what's your name? I'll follow you back if I don't already.
@@LOONATE my username is Oops
out of all the recent girlgroups, Loona probably has one of the highest sing-ablity across all members... just sayin'
jinsoul surprised me when i first became an orbit. i thought she was JUST a rapper, so i assumed she wasn't that good at singing. then i heard love letter…. and from then on, i KNEW i was wrong
AND GOWONS VOICE IS T I N Y I LOVE IT
this is my favorite video now
🥺💗 tysm!
11:52 RAP GOD VIVI COME THROUGH
She HAS to rap in # or I'm calling the police
Also LOONA members are like 16-23 they’re still young af and developing their sound individually but they mesh well af as a group no denying THAT
This video made me realize how beautiful Choerry’s vocals are !! They are insane !! Like I always loved her vocals but the clips you chose were literally amazing! Also that first clip you showed of Jinsoul she looked godly
Ahh, I love her vocals too!! She's improved so much! I'm glad you enjoyed 🥺💓
KIM LIPS VOICE IS JUST SO- COULD SHE SING JN MY FUNERAL PLEASE??? EARS BLESSED
Them: Loona can’t sing!
Chuu: I WANT TO BE WITH YOUUUUUUUUUUUU
are loona the most skilled singers out there? NO! they’re still young and learning and improving but still amazing and sound great..people who say they cant sing confuse me
Exactly!! The amount they've improved since their solo debuts is actually super impressive. They're so passionate and have worked hard. 🥺
Yeojin and choerry are underrated vocalists. Their tones are really nice.
The most underrated imo 💓
The haters are def. I can admit that some of they don't sing so well like the others but they CAN sing. Loona is not perfect and is okay, the group is going to be better with the years. I'm also a twice stan and i was seeing the progress of the girls, is just time
Oh totally, I feel the same way. All the girls can sing. But some are weaker, just like in any group. They all have things they're strong at and improve constantly! 🥰
yeojin is so baby and that smol thing got so much talent i-
Haseul a LITERAL OPERA SINGER and you’re telling her she can’t sing when she has STUDIED OPERA.
How anyone can say a group containing Heejin, Haseul and Chuu-riah Carey can't sing is beyond me. Madness.
LOONA Studio really helped establish the girls as great vocalists imo. BBC struck gold with 12 main vocalists, 12 main dancers, 12 main visuals and 11 main rappers. I AM EMOTIONAL.
Who is not a rapper??
@@sararibeiro1208 KSKSJSJS KIMLIPS FAMOUS LINES "Rap no no no"
honestly i find it hilarious how kpopies love acting like they are vocal coaches and dance teachers when they know nothing. lmao.
Specially the ones that think popularity = talent / quality.
I can't tell if this was a drag at me or a drag at the people this video is meant for. 😂🤧
god really just spilled all the talent while making loona and it shows
The curious case of Haseul, the main vocal who has no lines in any ot12 song, poor girl, bbc does her so dirty
"LOONA CAN'T SING"
Haseul: Take my cheese -fights in opera-
Jiwoo: Take my Yves -fights with the high note of Hi High-
All the girls: Take my loonaverse -fights in "we debuted with solos, your fav wish"-
Idiots : L0oNa C4nt s1Ng
Chuu: *allow me to introduce myself*
When ppl say idols can’t sing but can they sing any better then them?
It's weird how people become absolute music experts on social media, right? Some LOONA members don't have strong vocals but they CAN definitely sing. They deliver melodies hitting the right notes in tune, and that's the easiest way to prove they can sing. You might not like some member's voice, the way they rap, the emotions they convey while singing, their vocal color, etc., but they're doing their job perfectly fine. If you don't like it then don't listen to it instead of trying to hate on them, it can't get easier than this.
People confuse the fact that having an airy voice doesnt equal not being able to sing, all loona girls have extereme visuals, loads of dance talent and very good vocals.
Edit: time stamp 11:00
I love how confident Yeojin sounds here, I wish she had more parts like this and her line in Satellite where her voice isn't forced to be cute and high pitched
Right?? She lacks confidence at times. But when she is confident, she proves how talented she is!!
YES i want more of her real deep voice like BBC why are you making her sing like that?
I clicked thinking this was a hate video and was *so* ready to defend my *queen's*
This has got me so hyped for the comeback I love their voices so much
OMG Olivia singing that XX added 10 years to my life span
that one comment who said "we ain't getting the burn comeback"they said too much
jinsoul's voice is soooo emotional and also looks pretty while singing
Classical musicians (we know who i'm talking about :D ), Vocal Coaches and Teachers have reacted to their stuff - actually qualified people, just remember that hate blinds, this is why haters always sound idiotic and are alot of the times wrong. Spread Love
Yeojin is such an underrated singer, I wish BBC would make her sing more because all the lines she gets are talk singing lines
*kim Lip has the most universally likeable tone*
I would say that's Yves or even JinSoul but no matter what all of them have beautiful voices💕
I sadly didn’t like her voice (or Eclipse for that matter) at first but once my ears adjusted to LOONA’s sound, I got to appreciate it a lot more. I generally have a preference to soft, velvety voices like SHINee’s Taemin, Day6’s Jae, and our dear Hyunjin in first impression tho so maybe it’s because hers is the polar opposite of theirs that’s why it took a while to “get” it.
Zephyrs Blade ohh i understand but i feel like ppl would like Kim Lip’s tone the most
There is already a lot of videos that prove them wrong. Those people just need to take 5min of their time to check them out on UA-cam So... Actually they are one of the talented rookie group considering that they are 12 with 8 clear vocalist and 4 stable vocals. If you don't agree... let's compare
Exactly. Those people just don't want to do their research because they'll know they'll be proved wrong. 🙄
Dude 2:55 just a moment before that tekst popt up i litteraly also got chills and i don't usualy get chills while listening to music,that's crazy
the thing that people don't seem to get is that, while vivi/gowon/olivia hye aren't the most incredible singers, they all have a really unique and beautiful tone that adds to loona's colour as a whole. if you took out any of the members with 'weak vocals', loona wouldn't have the same sound or appeal. plus i really don't understand what people mean by 'can't sing'. like the members are all in tune, have a strong range and some form of technique, so they can DEFINITELY sing
Heejin: deep but also „girly” nice voice. Idk how to describe it but. Ugh queen
Hyunjin: such a cute and „melody” voice. Like... her voice is so beautiful
Haseul: opera singer but can go deep omg legend and an icon
Yeojin: deep and unique voice!!! We want more of her btw
Vivi: very nice voice i cant:( edily&ediny outsold
Kimlip: very unique and pretty voice:) legend wbk
Jinsoul: strong vocals!!! Amazing:)
Choerry: not only cute voice, but also very melodic and pretty like. Girl omg how u can be THAT talented:( my baby amazing
Kimlip: deep and strong voice. Such a queen:)
Chuu: no caption here. Everyone knows jiwoo CAN sing. And that she is a vocal queen(with haseul but haseul underrated)
Gowon: very lovely voice!!! We love that song
Hyeju: unique and pretty voice. She can go high and deep omg. Yes go off legend
Hater: lol, y'all dead blind. loona can't sing, rap nor dance periodt
Me (a stan): yeah, Haseul doesn't approve that behavior
I like how they can sing with Emotions, most Idols don't know how to do that and they sound really bland and their highnotes sound the same in every song. But in Loona every song has a different emotion and they know how to bring that Emotion out, especially Choerry she's very underrated.
I always come back to this video, just because I'm so nostalgic for the good ol loona days...
(Not that the days now are bad, but those days back then were good in a different way~)
i miss these days a lot sometimes, i know what you mean. :)
lmao i love how orbits can clap back with literal opera singing
"LOONA cant sing"
Me: bish, then try doing Chuu and Haseul's high note.
Haseul, Yves and Hyunjin have my favorite voices in the group. Haseul is unique and perfect, Yves is rich and addictive, Hyunjin is soft and beautiful... they fit their solos and roles in the Loonaverse so well. BBC made an amazing job finding variety in the members...
Assa~zero competition.
I bet the 1 dislike is the one of the same clowns that tweeted that week shit in the beginning of the video.
How haters/Netizens define *GOOD SINGING VOICE* :
- Stable singing voice in live stages 20%
- High note belters/carriers 10%
- *PURE HATE* 70%
Do you realize that Loona is a group of great vocalists, when the "weakest" singer has a beautiful sweet voice
It really makes me sad seeing people saying this stuff about gowon, she's awesome and really talented. All of them are. Stan Loona 💜
9:10 CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS?!?! LIKE PLEASE JINSOUL I’M GOING TO CRY
Q-tips are a dollar at the Dollar Store😥
Good lord haseuls tone is TO DIE FOR
I was waiting for the Chuu sneezing loona kick
STAN ViVi QUEEN OF PROGRESS!! LOVE HHER SM AAAA
I love hyejoo’s voice.
0:46 check next month sweetie
Even though Gowon and Vivi are some of the weaker vocalists of loona, they're still pretty capable and the fact that they're able to manage their own single is better than some idols in kpop today
why do people hate on Vivi’s voice? girl sounds like an angel✨
you forgot hyunjin's: into the UNKOOOOOOOOOOOWWW
GOWON??? CANT SING AND RAP??? DID THEY LISTEN TO ONE&ONLY BACKGROUND VOCALS??? SHE HIT A LEGIT HIGH NOTE IM SO DONE
People said that LONNA can't sing like ... Do you know who Chuu Is?
Gowons voice color isn’t my favorite but she definitely can sing
they can definitely sing, but a big problem in kpop is that idols don't perform live anymore. and even if they do, a lot of videos of them performing live sound more perfect bc the audio is fixed with autotuning. more companies should be focused on giving their idols proper vocal training and breath control, so they can sing while they dance. and for the more difficult dances, the onces where singing during dancing is almost impossible, it's ok if they sing it all live but the industry (not just kpop, pop in general) should stop focusing on perfection and start focusing on bettering the skills of their idols. right now, haseul, kim lip and chuu are probably loona's biggest vocalists (even if haseul is underused) and i wish the company just let them sing live more. even in their recent concert, i could hear that a lot of the "live singing" was kinda fixed with autotune. and i'm not hating on the members!!! they're all very skilled!!! it's not their fault.
Yeah the industry's obsession with perfection is what keeps screwing groups like Aespa over, SM doesn't let them sing live despite them being very capable as Choachella showed us, and it's just sad to see that performances just focus on dancing even in some groups with simple choreo
LOONA 👏 CAN 👏 SING 👏 their true talent just ain't displayed in their songs though 😔
Loona's sing is good. I am real orbit. You may think Loona can't sing in your ears, My ears Loona's sing is very well.
Real orbit are like that.
They are amazing 💖
their vocals make me cry because they have some of the most beautiful voices personally I bias all the girls 🤭
Thx for uploading this , some people were talking abt 4gen vocalists and I said that loona was I good vocal group, that acted like a vocal coach and said that Chuu and Yves falsetto was not stable and bla bla bla , i just send a bunch of links and this video's
haseul omfg she gave me sm chills
I know Loona can sing but I feel that they need to control their vocals more. The talent is there but BBC's vocal trainers need to bring Loona to their full potential.
True, it takes time though. The girls have already come a LONG way since their solo eras.
And their voices got even better this year.