You can’t tell me he didn’t have real feelings for her, he was tearing up after the whole “how does it feel to lose” conversation. It’s the whole Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde story… split personality. Just like how he didn’t know why he pulled that messed up “prank” on Xavier in the past.
Thank god.. I thought that I was the only one to notice this particular. Many in some vides were saying that people are crazy to ship these two because he his a killer or something like that but clearly they didn't notice these particulars😠😠 He didn't want to kill people or doing anything of this but due that his that side of him control by his damn mother he cannot stop killing ..... that tears on his eyes tell that he has that good side of him but buried inside by his mother which has heavely drug him to turn him in that hyde... I literally hate her ... because of her , he has to suffer in this way....how a mother can use her own son to take revenge that shows the reason of why his father never made him meet his mother ... I hope that Tim Burton find a way to make him comeback.. it cannot be end like that 😭😭😭😭
@@taofiqasultana6056 But she wasn’t his mom. She was a stranger to him that offered him information about his mom and used that to manipulate him until she unlocked the Hyde monster trait he unfortunately inherited from his mother. Just a teenager that was manipulated until they became a killer.
@@WorldTree33 Probably, I have confused but either way she is the true moster one... she has tortured him to unlock that side of him and use him to take revenge... she is a pyscho.... I feel bad for him because he is totally under his control and cannot stop to kill people because of that even when she don't wanted..... The idea of someone able to control me in that way is very scary... Think about him ... I feeling very bad him because he has no choice to not do
I feel like the him tearing up thing was just him going back to his original face, to fool his dad. Because previously he was 'upset' and just wanted to say 'goodbye' to Wednesday, then he needed to revert back to that face so he wouldnt seem suspicious. Does that make sense? Idk, thats just what i thought. Its kinda sad though i wanted them to be a happy couple at the beggining
@@bdb802 It will make sense if u think someone is controlling your mind in way to bring to kill people with no mercy. So, the change of his behaviour of him fighting ia him trying to fights his inner demons and the control of Laurel on him. It is not easy when u get the genes of your parents that make kind like a " slave".... Now probably his inner demons have buried that human side which is the one that love and care about Wednesday... and I think that it is injustice after the tourture that he went through to become someone that he don't wanted to be... as he said he done bad stuff but he is not a bad person because he really is not is.....😭😭😭😭😭
To be honest I feel Tyler truly somewhere in his heart loved her, he was just being controlled and manipulated, I think S2 could be his redemption season
3:32 you can see Tyler tear up a bit. I feel like doesn’t actually want to hurt Wednesday but the Hyde does. It’s like he’s fighting good and evil within himself.
What I noticed was that he was always representing weakness in front of everyone.. but after he faced her with his truth.. he returned to representing the same sad face yup can't believe him anymore :(
@@user-kf9ec4ty6t it depends of how we feel this scene. In my mind when he grab her and told her „you don’t know what’s coming” could be also a warning (if he is fighting Hyde) or a threat (if he is totally coldass psycho). I mean I feel like he don’t even know what is he saying and why. In the background of the whole season we were seeing him tearing up so many times that I want belive he is fighting his inner side. Also the concept of Jackyll and Hyde is there purposely. I hope it will be explain better in the season 2 and I really really hoping I’m not wrong about it… :(
@@user-kf9ec4ty6tsuch a lovely couple They are a match honestly a sociopath and a killer But the feeling of betrayal and manipulation Is the one that ruins it all
Just remember what Tyler went through even before becoming the hyde. Tortured, manipulated by his master and dismissed by his father. I actually felt sad when Tyler screams in the bathtub. I look forward to what will happen next season.
Right like people are talking abt he killed people so did her parents that she harmed people she loved she does it basically all the time with pugsley let him beeee😭😭
"did u think this was love" yes I did and I do. You're gonna tell me that Wednesday "chop my head off my dolls and bonded with him over tormenting other people" Addams wouldn't fall for a Hyde?
In a certain way, I feel bad for Tyler. He never met his mother, and his dad is always cold and distant from him, telling him nothing and doing nothing to bond with his son. Lonely and clueless young people are easier to manipulate cause they have no one to count on it. Throughout the series, we saw his relationship with his father, he always felt left out. in the episode where his father was going somewhere, he sarcastically told him that he wasn't fond of eating and watching tv together. When he see the Addams going to see the therapist together, he envied them, because Wednesday's parents were with her. The only person that approached him and showed a little (fake) interest in him was Lauren. She just wanted to use him for her own benefit. She saw that he was vulnerable and needed some answers, she took advantage of him and he ended up indebted to her for giving the answers that he was looking for. In the end, he ended by embracing his dark side cause it's the only part of him that really mattered to someone for the first time in his life. IF only the school principal had seen this coming or his father paid more attention to his son and tried to embrace what his son really is and not denied it.
Therefore, we really need to get some answers to what happened when the Hydes were excluded from the school, or how they were handled (Where did they go? because by just excluding them, would only make them more dangerous). Furthermore: What relationship did Morticia have with Tyler's mother Francois? After all they fought side by side in "The Nightshades" to protect the outcast from repression and harm. Therefor it makes no sense that those in the club have been harmful to Francois, possibly they were protecting her. But again, Francois “Hyde” was first awakened when she had postpartum depression, so at that time she didn't even go to Nevermore anymore, which leads too: What have Laurel actually told Tylers about Francois/his mother’s past? Does she even know the whole truth about what happened? Or was she just making something up/ad something untrue to the story, about the Outcasts/Nevermore being the “real” reason for his mother’s death, to manipulate him more and win him over. But, as we know, Francois didn’t even where at Nevermore when the “Hyde” inside of her were born, so something is missing here…? Cause unfortunately there would always be someone who wants to exploit others in their advantage, including students and teachers at Nevermore, as well as nomies outside Nevermore. Maybe there really was someone trying to exploit/taking advantage of those students who were Hydes before they were banned? Or where is the real truth hidden? I think that part could be interesting to explore In any case, it would make absolute no sense, if no one ever tries to finish the research that Nathaniel Faulkner did about Hydes, with the aim of preventing those who are Hydes from harming themselves or others in the future .
I think people forget that Wednesday is like also a sociopath? Like she tried to kill her brothers bullies...the reason why she was interested in the killer was because she was infatuated on to why someone would do it cuz *she* didn't get it (check out Jenna's interview on this) she didn't save Nevermore (initially) to be heroic but as a pride thing. But when she got closer to Enid and her other friends it's when it changed, Tyler was included in tht close circle. So for her, the first guys she's interested basically hurt her pride and the few few people she gives a fuck about. So it's this immense betrayal of both their romantic relationship and platonic. HOWEVER I don't think Tyler being a killer would sway her regarding her emotions for Tyler. Let's be honest here if anything I think she LIKED that part of him being a killer it's just the Context and WHO he Killed and why that bothered her . Its the fact that in Wensday eyes and also the audience that Tyler BETRAYED her and given the Addams family theme of unity even with difference and also Wednesday being prideful it's a double hit and understandable why she grows indifferent to spiteful of him, Tyler went against her , hurt her pride the few people she cares about AND her families morals. I headcanon that their exes that are still very much romantically and physically attracted to one another but can't because of all the shit that happened in the past.
I think tyler was really enjoying himself during the ball and date. And wednesday actually smiled when he kissed him. Aand she loves blood and murder. Tyler is the perfect match. They’re both crazy and enjoy the darkness.
I loved Tyler, but he almost killed Eugene, a little innocent boy, I don't think she can forgive that...I'm not sure if he actually regrets it or he meant what he said about enjoying killing, I wish it was Hyde and not Tyler
@@emomsen1089 that's the thing tho, he ALMOST killed Eugene. He easily could've completed the murder but he didn't and I think it's because he knew how much Eugene mattered to Wednesday.
I dont like xavier cuz hes got a 'nice guy' complex where he seems to think wednesday has to like him because hes nice (bare minimum) to her, and then gets moody and annoyed with her when she doesnt. She doesnt owe him that just because hes nice.
I kinda agree with you, but seriously, wouldn't you be a little pissed too if someone would think you're a cold hearted murderer monster, would ask you to a ball just to prove her point and get you arrested, and then would ask for your help, while being all chained in a dirty cell because of her? No hate, just sayin'
he was mad because she FALSELY accused him of being a hyde that was killing everyone and then she asked him for help after locking him up and not listening to him. i think you would be mad too. and tbh tyler had the same complex he said she was “giving him signals” when he knows shes not a romantic person at all but thats just how i interpretated it.
because they are both messed up, twisted people who cared for each other and would be a glorious, twisted mess together, the very essence of the addams family!
@@rant3044 oh please Tyler never cared for Wednesday. The one time he saved her was also because his master needed Wednesday alive till the blood moon.
I love the contrast of Wednesday presenting as a monster while being a good person on the inside and Tyler presenting as a good person but being a monster on the inside.
@@Dularr hmmmm, i would have to object... what you are saying is just the outside of wednesday. deep down, she's actually one of us, humans who have emotions. my opinion tho~~ :0
For some reason I still ship them. Tyler reminds me of Klaus Mikaelson. A monster created by someone else. Klaus by his parents, Tyler by Laurel. I do believe he can be redeemed and I hope he does. I think that if he was truly someone who doesn't care, is cold, a murderer with no redeeming qualities then he wouldn't tear up like it's shown at the end of this video. He'd probably laugh like a psychopath. I believe there's good in him, hopefully we get to see that in S2. ^^
i still ship them he just needs to redeem himself - he was literally tortured to get the hyde to come out of him, he was manipulated and abused, he can't just go back to being normal after all that trauma. yeah i know he killed people but i really just need him tgo have good character development and for wednesday and tyler to be together again PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I suspected him but was hoping to be wrong. Hell even when he revealed himself I was hoping he actually liked her deep down even if I knew he didn't. It was heartbreaking to be right.
What I don't understand is that the Addams family always had a different moral code than everyone else so why wouldn't Wednesday like a serial killer? Even the black and white TV show expressed how murder wasn't an issue for them and police definitely wouldn't touch the Addams because they are afraid.
This was a whole different take on Addams while still trying to keep it Addams. I think it was mainly inspired by the youtube web series "Adult Wednesday Addams Season 1 & 2" by Melissa Hunter, she had it taken down on her youtube due to copyright but you can still find it on other channels that have reposted.
@@veezbeez4015 I don't think it was based on that but I agree that this is a different take of the Addams Family since Jenna Ortega literally said that on an interview.
Their character is so exceptional... I like the relationship they have and hoping for more complexity as the show progress but would want them to have an end game
@@youarecheesefaceit me too... I would want it to kinda knowing what a hyde really is and letting them have character developments... It would be fun to be frustrated because they have an on and off relationship (seems toxic but it would definitely give some insights about how you work on that feelings and relationships)
The actors, have great chemistry!!!!! My opinion about Tyler... We don't know Tyler yet. We saw him already manipulated. What I do know is that before he met that woman, he was broke and depressed because of his mother. And because of the bad relationship with his father. I don't know how far it is Tyler and the monster. The police hallway scene, to me obviously wasn't Tyler. It was manipulation. What I'm saying is that he was used, abused. I really wanted to see that in season two. How much was this manipulation? Of course, controlling the monster isn't easy, but without manipulation, who is Tyler? I'm really interested in seeing that in season two. I'm sorry, but I see that in a certain part, he is innocent yes. Look, not everything is about ships. There is no Tyler and Wedsnesday. That was all a setup. They have amazing chemistry, and I shiped them. But it wasn't real. I just hope he can get a second chance, and be happy with his dad. Not everything is about ships.
I love your points. While victims of trauma can be prone to manipulation during periods of hopelessness, I honestly disliked the hyde twist from a character perspective. Tyler's efforts in therapy and desire to go with his father suggested he wasn't resolute in any kind of closure over his mother's passing. If Laurel seemingly gave him answers, why was he still searching? Why make a continued effort? I don't feel like his behavior on his own tracked with the twist either. When Thing (best character) first came to him, Tyler reacted with fear but quickly backed off once the emotion passed. At this point, he was unaware that the little handy man was associated with Wednesday, so there was no reason to respond with anything other than his genuine self. While alone, he wasn't vindictive at the break in, instead cooperating with little fight beyond the initial bat debacle. Likewise, the "hint" about his nature (screaming in the bathtub) didn't sit right. He chose a harmless emotional outlet, something that was neither destructive nor pointed toward any one person or group. It was merely yelling into water, and that shit is good for releasing the inner 'motions. Done it plenty of times...Very therapeutic. My personal coping mechanisms aside, Tyler's public and private personas were nearly identical, which made such a change feel unwarranted. At this point, I too don't feel like we know Tyler. No fault to Hunter, he played the character very well and had a great screen presence. I honestly just don't know where they're going with this, and right now, it just doesn't make sense to me.
@@virginiabonnie780 Its because in season 1 we dont have the point of view of Tyler. We get Wednesday's point of view and the woman who controls him. We don't know when Tyler is talking to Wed at the police station, if it was him talking. At least I don't know, I was confused. It would be interesting in season 2 to show Tyler's point of view from the beginning. To see how much of that was manipulation by hypnosis. To see if at some point in s1 it was him. But I don't know, maybe the writers are just going to make him the villain, and not delve into that, which would be a shame.
@@jhenniferandrade8722 It would like if they in a potential season 2 explored this scenario: First of all I would be exciting to see Wednesday go to Nevermore again, now with a new principal hired, which potentially could be Wednesday's mother Morticia (which Wednesday probably doesn't seem entirely happy about). For my perspective It could be interesting to let their relationship grow and for them to get closer. We also need to explore and get some answers to what happened when the Hydes were excluded from the school, or how they were handled (Where did they go? because by just excluding them, would only make them more dangerous). Furthermore: What relationship did Morticia have with Tyler's mother Francois? After all they fought side by side in "The Nightshades" to protect the outcast from repression and harm. Therefor it makes no sense that those in the club have been harmful to Francois, possibly they were protecting her. But again, Francois “Hyde” was first awakened when she had postpartum depression, so at that time she didn't go to Nevermore anymore, which leads too: What have Laurel actually told Tylers about Francois/his mother’s past? Does she even know the whole truth about what happened? Or was she just making something up/ad something untrue to the story, about the Outcasts/Nevermore being the “real” reason for his mother’s death, to manipulate him more and win him over. But, as we know, Francois didn’t even where at Nevermore when the “Hyde” inside of her were born, so something is missing here…? Cause unfortunately there would always be someone who wants to exploit others in their advantage, including students and teachers at Nevermore, as well as nomies outside Nevermore. Maybe there really was someone trying to exploit/taking advantage of those students who were Hydes before they were banned? Or where is the real truth hidden? I think that part could be interesting to explore In any case, it would make absolute no sense, if no one ever tries to finish the research that Nathaniel Faulkner did about Hydes, with the aim of preventing those who are Hydes from harming themselves or others in the future .
@@jhenniferandrade8722 while seeing one’s direct point of view can be an important narrative tool, it shouldn’t be a bandaid for poor characterization. In order to sell that twist of evil via corruption and manipulation, we as viewers deserve to see those effects throughout the series…even if in just small glimpses. Like you said, the police station felt like a completely different character. It didn’t match at all with any of what Tyler was previous established to be. I feel like they wanted so badly to surprise the viewer that they made him into two disjointed characters. Right now, I don’t know who he is, and I’m not 100% sold that the writers know any more than me. If there is more to be explored in following seasons, I’ll definitely be there to watch, but right now I’m just disappointed.
I had it spoiled too (I was looking up the actors and it had the character’s name listed as “Tyler/The Hyde”). I thought maybe he was being controlled or didn’t know what was going on and maybe that was how they’d keep him around for next season; have him enrol at Nevermore and learn to control his powers. But I honestly did not expect him to be completely evil :(
After the reveal, I'm still down with this ship. The look he had after he said you have no idea what's coming, he looked conflicted. Hoping they'll be more of them if there's a season 2
@@maevab2923 you have to remember this is the Addams Family we’re talking about, the rules are different. Applying real world morals won’t work. Although Wednesday seems to be “toned down” a bit so we’ll see
guys.... he's not a bad person...trust me... maybe we'll learn more about his stories in the next season....I'm not trying to justify anyone but....I don't wanna give up on him just yet
That last scene..when he says bad things,but with tears in his eyes.. the conflict between good and evil inside him..hope he doesn't sacrifice his life for her in the end, to show how much she means to him..😭
I don’t think people realize what Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is they are two split personalities and the one where he’s nice is his genuine feeling and so is the Hyde but it’s basically the sinister things he’s wanted to do but couldn’t as his other character but those emotions are amplified
2:19 this scene makes me sorry for him. He didn't control that he was manipulated. It is sad. And like why especially after the kiss she need to have this vision? Like if she needed to kiss him to find that he is the monster. He was just the victim and he was suffering from pain. It isn't his fault. Really depressing story for me.
They have so much chemistry....i like him as a villain! Wednesday is no good with his feelings and he could make her go deeper. Mixed love, hate, anger...she would be cruel and yet emocional with him. And she didn't get Tyler what he deserves yet.
I'm actually reading every single comment and theories to convince myself that Tyler isn't the bad guy and his love for Wednesday was real 😁🤞🏻 srsly I can't imagine a better pairing with Wednesday; he is evil enough to be her BF.
I like Tyler, and I don't think that Tyler is toxic. Guys he's a MONSTER he can't control himself. And he must do things that his owner says. I think he has two personalities I mean like split personality. He was really into Wednesday and he was good. He is good now too. But his dark side became more powerful. And he doesn't control it now, that's why he said terrible things to Wednesday at the police office. His face changed really quickly and I think it's weird. There's a battle inside him. Bit now dark side wins. I like Xavier too. I think there will be more interaction between them in season two. But I think Tyler has a chance with Wednesday.
Sooooooo, purely in the context of this show, where our antiheroine has psychopathic tendencies anyway ... I have to admit I still ship them. In fact, now I think it could actually work out. (After a redemption arc, of course.) I always thought Tyler was adorable, but also a lamb to the slaughter. Then he orchestrated that picnic in the crypt with the 'horror' film and I thought, 'Actually, they could be a really cute couple until he becomes cannon fodder.' Now I think he's a better match for her longer term, provided he's Jekyll a much as he's a Hyde. The only time I liked Xavier was when he explained his painting of Wednesday playing the cello and I agreed with him. The rest of the time he seemed needy and petulant.
He played his role professionally. He was so sincere at the very beginning. I thought there was something between these two... Looks like it was a mistake. It makes me upset😢
I figured out the twist way early on about the hyde's owner, but I was taken completely by surprise by Tyler's words to Wednesay in the police station- talk about a fantastic build up that felt out of left field but when you go back and listen to his words everything made so much sense I was so angry- good writing! good show!
I love how your edit captured the intensity. Their relationship before, I just thought of it as cute. I knew he was suspicious...but after the police station scene I really wanted them together. That they're both messed up, and could relate on morbid topics Wednesday would say. I don't know. I just want Wednesday to have a partner that she could converse with about topics that she likes.
i think his monster side makes him apsycho but deep inside he really love her, you could kind of see the pain in his eyes when he said the "you have no idea what's coming"
if they find a cure in the season two, he will be the love interest for sure : he never wanted to become a psycho and he's not, every weird thoughts he got were made about the red haired normie and keeped by the monster
I think it was real. He wasn’t in control when laurel brought the Hyde out but through the show you can see his personal fight with himself even when telling her it’s hun and “bragging” he’s starting to cry that’s the real tyler inside screaming. You have to think about the fact the Hyde literally protected Wednesday multiple times. He had plenty of chances to kill her and didn’t. It’s like jackyll and Hyde kind of situation
There's one thing that people are forgetting to account for. At the beginning of the series, Tyler saved Wednesday's life while being a Hyde. It happened in the scene where she ran into the forest and the nerd told her he was going to kill her to save the school. Tyler probably followed Wednesday and when he noticed she was in danger, stepped in to save her life. He would also hold himself back from hurting her when he was a Hyde. Then there was a shift where he started to go after her and hurt Thing. I think this shift was caused by Laurel. I think he did love her at one point, but due to Laurel, he changed. I think Laurel might have told him to attack Wednesday.
@@murielyllanes Maybe. I mean we don't have his point of view, but there was definitely a shift between him protecting her and her becoming his target.
I think, above all the arguments about Tyler being suitable for Wednesday, a quotation of her will work. She said after their kiss and her vision that, she isn’t surprised to see her first man turning out to be a psycho serial killer monster, bcz, she definitely has a type. And Tyler is the Type.
I can totally see Wednesday being more attracted to him than ever when they were in the woods after she is stabbed by Crackstone and he comes close to her, grabbed her collar, and just looked into her eyes for a second. lmao. I know they said no romance next season but I feel like this will be a ongoing problem for Wednesday with him. Like, she was into him as the boy-next-door normie but not enough that she was crying after she realized who he was. But now she's seen the dark side of him and you know there is nobody better for a girl like Wednesday. I can see Laurel either being dead or her control over him broken, and him either being free to do what HE wants or Wednesday being his master because she killed Laurel, Tyler working for redemption by working with them and helping them (I laughed at the sheriff saying something about Velma and the Scooby Gang because I can see that being what the group ultimately turns into: Wednesday, Enid, Bianca, Kent, Davina, Yoko, Ajax and MAYBE Xavier if he stays in his fucking lane...hell...maybe even normie Lucas if he is dating Bianca) investigating and trying to eliminate the huge threat to outcasts. I feel it is implied in the final scenes of the season that there is a bigger conspiracy at play and that Laurel's plan was just a facet of it. And Tyler and Wednesday working together makes it hard for her to just forget her feelings and she finds herself very much attracted to his hyde side as well. I don't know WHY Jenna and whoever think this wouldn't add an interesting element to the plot. Wednesday showed interest in boys in the 90s movies. She was a child in most of the other iterations which explains no love interests. The couple where she's a teen, she is interested in boys. Just not the typically boy crazy, romance minded girl we typically think of with teen girls. It doesn't have to FOCUS on the romance but I think the fighting Wednesday does with herself over her feelings for him while needing to utilize his help, and him having falling for her in the first season and not totally letting that go leaving a lot of "sexual" tension between them in the midst of everything else...that's good tv, man!
"I did a terrible thing but I swear I'm not a terrible person" always gets me😭😭😭😭 I honestly don't know what to think about Tyler anymore like I liked him from the beginning and now they made him a murder like what😭 I'm curious how will autors potray his character in season 2
Wednesday is a tough nut to crack, and Tyler did it. Tyler made her feel something and, more importantly, made her *show* it. He had feelings for her on some level and I don't doubt that because Wednesday is a person who is difficult to get to know and even harder to open up. You wouldn't keep coming back to her unless you had some powerful feelings towards her. However, the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde ends with Jekyll becoming Hyde permanently. Hyde took over Tyler, and Laurel Gates didn't help that. But Tyler isn't really to blame. Hyde isn't Tyler and the Tyler in the finale is just Hyde with Tyler's face.
I 100% agree! I just finished the show and really thought about it. It’s not Tyler’s fault! Laurel tortured him and brainwashed him into loving the feeling. Tyler is not the Hyde.
@@Laraisthegreatest I don't think Wednesday will trust him completely ever again, but she does care about him. Who knows? Maybe there's a redemption arc in there somewhere.
@@Luc42 Yeah, probably. It was shock for her to know that person that she put a trust on or felt something than friend, it is turn to be the killer she is looking for. But obviously, I am not blaming Tyler. Poor boy..😭 I couldn't stand seeing him being tortured in that cave for who is know how long there to make him turn in someone that he don't want to be...I hope also in a redemption arc... I cannot accept this end of him being close in a psychiatric hospital or something like that....
I think he did love her, he was abused, traumatized, and controlled by Laurel. She mentally, verbally, and maybe even sexually abused him….. Tyler feelings towards her definitely seemed true. Laurel was abusive and controlling. But he could have just been playing it off nice, I know people( old friends) who seemed so nice and normal until they backstabbed you and started talking shit. I think he loved her, but he may not off. I really don’t know what to expect for season 2!
tbh Wednesday didn't deserve this okay maybe she's a horrible psychotic person but nobody deserves their heart being broken, just when she was just starting to love
@@cypstfu "he tried to kill her?" If we are talking about Wednesday Addams here, then he passed the flirting stage with flying colors. After all, it is canonically established that torture is a quality family time within the Adams family. I think people tend to forget that within the franchise the Adams family is obsessed with everything related to death, decay and danger. They could be seen as the inversion of the nuclear family. The killing part might be the line here, but even then I am not so sure. Tyler by himself as a character fits very neatly into the whole Adams family aesthetic.
it was clearly an act wth are you talking about. The tear was clearly for show for the other people around him to show how "devastated" and hurt he was by Wednesday's actions
Nah gotta believe enemies to lovers in season 2 without Thornhill maybe he’ll get Wednesday to be his master or some shit or have a redemption arc either way I need them together in season 2 so bad
OH. MY. GOD. This was amazing! You've blended their lines, impressions and reactions so perfectly, which I think is REALLY impressive since you had only eight episodes to get creative with. I'd say the best edit I've seen of them so far. Great job, really :)
Tylor has two sides, one of them loves Wednesday unequivocally 🖤 My theory is that there is someone else behind all this (maybe another Hyde). I don't know if T & W will have a happy ending, but the chemistry between them is just a blast. Let's hope that in the next season they will show us more and reveal the main characters and show everything that happened before and after
It makes me wonder because he is tearing up when he tell her that she doesn't know what is coming, being that he loves her and maybe doesn't want to cause the damage that will happen?
@@chibikooky4665 Probably. Because he knows that side him can kill her with no mercy when it is active. He didn't want to kill her or anyone else but the other personality , yes as like the story of Dr Jack and Hyde,
@@destinydouglas7046 it’s a murder mystery show with a seemingly unfeeling heroine that falls for the soft boy, he’s either dead or evil and with Wednesday specifically I feel like him being evil would’ve been better for the story (also Xavier was wayyy to obvious)
Actually Tyler never was a bad person and villain in my opinion. He always was a lost boy manipulated by this cruel woman... He loves Wednesday, I know it. I know it. ❤
He confessed to being a sadist murderer. And he warned/threatened wednesday at the end. But I do feel that he doesn't want to be that way and it's the Jekyll and hyde effect where he really doesnt want to be that way but it's just who he is and he cant help it. Thought I'd share my opinion in reply to yours
@@michaelegotti6439 Tyler was groomed and abused... It's pretty clear watching from that scene that he was grappling with how he'd been brainwashed as well as his feelings for Wednesday. For me, the confession scene solidified that there's still some good in him :) just my opinion though
@@doldfamily9983 you cant really have an opinion on that… it’s literally shown in the show 💀 thornhill chained him up and tortured him AND groomed and manipulated him into thinking outcasts were evil and it was their fault his mum died… there’s really no way to have an opinion on a fact 💀
@@queenbeet688 heres the thing, I dislike both of them. Out of everyone else wednesday cld have possibly liked(imo wednesday shldnt have a love interest anyways considering her chac), she fell in love with TYLER. A basic boy that has not personality other than being nice. There's nothing memorable about him, hence why i feel like him being her love interest was soooo out of place. Xavier at least have a personality, and thats why i much rather her end up with him. As you said he was cocky, and thats great you know theres smth about him that actually STICKS OUT, because the last guy i expect wednesday to like is some bland nice guy with no personality.
"I did something terrible but I swear I'm not a terrible person". This wasn't really about that stupid jokes with his friends, come on. It was deeper and I think this was the first clue that he's a hyde. He did something terrible (killed many people of course) but HE IS NOT a terrible person. Lauren manipulated him.
I believe the first sign was him telling her that at least one of them will get out of this hellfull town and he wished he coud go with her (probably wanting to run away from the Hyde curse).
In my opinion, Taylor was in love with Wansday because if he wasn't in love with her, he wouldn't ask if wensday would be his girlfriend and their relationship would be on the level of friends. 😭My dream at the moment is for Taylor to get on the right track. I'm very disappointed that their relationship turned out this way.
As much as I love him, Tyler is way beyond redemption. He thinks outcasts are the reason he and his mother are hurt. He never loved Wednesday, he would kill her, he hurt her friends, he ENJOYS KILLING. No one comes back from that. He Won't as well. And if Wednesday goes back to him I'll lose a lot of respect because I only have respect for Wednesdays intolerance to such bullshit. I used to be Tyler team, but now Xavier ftw.
Are you crazy that is creepy and Wednesday never like the other guy and Tyler was there for Wednesday and he was ready for her and he does care about her the only reason wy it seems like that was one he was mind controlled and he was in pin and she didn't have the right to do that for him just for a stupid reason 😤😤😤😤😤😤🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😰😰😰😰 I was Tyler and Wednesday back together 😰😰😰😰😰😰😰
@@ashleygalicia6389 tyler was there for Wednesday because he had to keep her Alive as to his masters order. Also what right of hers are you talking about?
@@cryingcontinuously5729 he was mind controlled he was obeying his master you just said it if you're mind control you're going to have to do everything that your master tells you to do even though you're going to hurt the people that you love he loves Wednesday and he cares about her and sorry that part was wrong opos
People saying that we shouldn't blame Tyler bc he's a victim and was manipulated by ms.thornhill need to realize that he was manipulated into doing her bidding but him actually enjoying the killings was all on his own so he's still held accountable for that and is not a full victim(don't even think he's one to begin with)
Is funny how you all that is judging Tyler but likes Wednesday that tried to KILL a boy because he practiced bullying with her brother, that is obviously not a excuse to try to kill someone, and she showed no remorse on doing it, when she saw the paint, she thought was blood at first, so she smiled , she is also a “psychopath” just like Tyler, the difference is that Tyler was MANIPULATED, TORTURED and FORCED to become something he didn’t wanted to, while Wednesday is “bad” because that is how she is, Tyler has a dark side just like Wednesday, but he is not evil like you all are saying he is.
@@isabellelilausa9907I’ll repeat this Wednesday might deal with things differently and in a dark way because that’s just how she is. She was born like that. She’s an outcast in a school of outcasts. From the series it was clear that she only wished death on those who were deserving of it. Her mind is dark but there’s good in her heart and most of her actions prove that she’s got a good heart but a darker mind… you can’t compare Wednesday and Tyler because they are different and Wednesday was born dark but she’s good in her own dark way unlike Tyler
he started to like killing his victims because of turning into a Hyde so many times and that wasn’t his fault, he was being manipulated by Thornhill to change. Remember at some point, Hydes become numb to what they do. They will do anything their masters say and they will think it’s right because it’s what their masters think it’s right. Like a dog to their owner.
for me it would have been much logical that Xavier was the monster tbh his obsession with Wednesday was just creepy he liked her and had only spoke to her once lol it was so weird at least Tyler got to know her and spend time with her but knowing that Tyler is the monster makes Xavier way more creepy idk why some ppl ship it
@@chaosspy6723 so? lol if a total stranger saved my life i would be really grateful thats it but being completely obsessed over them and have a massive crush just because of that it aint it lol even if they knew each other as kids they have grown and they don’t anymore like it’s still weird
Lol I feel the same. Wednesday doesn't even remember meeting Xavier until he tells her the details, so it probs wasn't anything dramatic. I really can't imagine anyone obsessing over a person they met just ONE time when they were kids, even if it's a life saving encounter. If the writers really do want to put in a romance arc season 2, I hope Tyler becomes redeemable because Xavier is just a big NO. He's always sulking and acts like Wednesday owes him a big deal when she doesn't.
I do Not ship xavier and Wednesday being obsessed to people just because they saved you is definitely a weird feeling They have a good chemistry as good friends but not more (This is my opinion i ship them as friends not lovers) No hate
Prediction: Tyler comes and saves Wednesday and tries to regain her love by telling her it was a mistake and etc but she will never see him the same again
He never had feelings for her, so I don't understand how it will be possible but it maybe can, I'm just saying he was only there because of Ms. Thornhill's plan
@@lovely7029 I also don’t understand why for goddamn reason people like shipping Wednesday and Tyler 😂 While Xavier who saved her from the gargoyle was always by her side 🫠 Tyler deserves better
![Wednesday & Tyler II Trust [Their story]](/img/n.gif)
You can’t tell me he didn’t have real feelings for her, he was tearing up after the whole “how does it feel to lose” conversation. It’s the whole Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde story… split personality. Just like how he didn’t know why he pulled that messed up “prank” on Xavier in the past.
Thank god.. I thought that I was the only one to notice this particular.
Many in some vides were saying that people are crazy to ship these two because he his a killer or something like that but clearly they didn't notice these particulars😠😠
He didn't want to kill people or doing anything of this but due that his that side of him control by his damn mother he cannot stop killing ..... that tears on his eyes tell that he has that good side of him but buried inside by his mother which has heavely drug him to turn him in that hyde... I literally hate her ... because of her , he has to suffer in this way....how a mother can use her own son to take revenge that shows the reason of why his father never made him meet his mother ...
I hope that Tim Burton find a way to make him comeback.. it cannot be end like that
😭😭😭😭
@@taofiqasultana6056 But she wasn’t his mom. She was a stranger to him that offered him information about his mom and used that to manipulate him until she unlocked the Hyde monster trait he unfortunately inherited from his mother. Just a teenager that was manipulated until they became a killer.
@@WorldTree33 Probably, I have confused but either way she is the true moster one... she has tortured him to unlock that side of him and use him to take revenge... she is a pyscho.... I feel bad for him because he is totally under his control and cannot stop to kill people because of that even when she don't wanted..... The idea of someone able to control me in that way is very scary... Think about him ... I feeling very bad him because he has no choice to not do
I feel like the him tearing up thing was just him going back to his original face, to fool his dad. Because previously he was 'upset' and just wanted to say 'goodbye' to Wednesday, then he needed to revert back to that face so he wouldnt seem suspicious. Does that make sense? Idk, thats just what i thought. Its kinda sad though i wanted them to be a happy couple at the beggining
@@bdb802 It will make sense if u think someone is controlling your mind in way to bring to kill people with no mercy. So, the change of his behaviour of him fighting ia him trying to fights his inner demons and the control of Laurel on him. It is not easy when u get the genes of your parents that make kind like a " slave".... Now probably his inner demons have buried that human side which is the one that love and care about Wednesday... and I think that it is injustice after the tourture that he went through to become someone that he don't wanted to be... as he said he done bad stuff but he is not a bad person because he really is not is.....😭😭😭😭😭
To be honest I feel Tyler truly somewhere in his heart loved her, he was just being controlled and manipulated, I think S2 could be his redemption season
3:32 you can see Tyler tear up a bit. I feel like doesn’t actually want to hurt Wednesday but the Hyde does. It’s like he’s fighting good and evil within himself.
What I noticed was that he was always representing weakness in front of everyone.. but after he faced her with his truth.. he returned to representing the same sad face yup can't believe him anymore :(
@@user-kf9ec4ty6t it depends of how we feel this scene. In my mind when he grab her and told her „you don’t know what’s coming” could be also a warning (if he is fighting Hyde) or a threat (if he is totally coldass psycho). I mean I feel like he don’t even know what is he saying and why. In the background of the whole season we were seeing him tearing up so many times that I want belive he is fighting his inner side. Also the concept of Jackyll and Hyde is there purposely. I hope it will be explain better in the season 2 and I really really hoping I’m not wrong about it… :(
He sure does! He is clearly Fighting something!
@@zuzannakuc684 I hope so:( he was with Wednesday such a beautiful couple
@@user-kf9ec4ty6tsuch a lovely couple
They are a match honestly a sociopath and a killer
But the feeling of betrayal and manipulation
Is the one that ruins it all
Just remember what Tyler went through even before becoming the hyde. Tortured, manipulated by his master and dismissed by his father. I actually felt sad when Tyler screams in the bathtub. I look forward to what will happen next season.
Not to mention his trauma was used as leverage to groom him…. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was sexually abused.
The fact that we are talking about Wednesday Addams and we can confirm he's absolutely her type 🤣
Right like people are talking abt he killed people so did her parents that she harmed people she loved she does it basically all the time with pugsley let him beeee😭😭
"did u think this was love" yes I did and I do. You're gonna tell me that Wednesday "chop my head off my dolls and bonded with him over tormenting other people" Addams wouldn't fall for a Hyde?
exactlyyy
Some guy in my class (used to?) rip off barbie doll heads and puts them in a tower
@@youarecheesefaceit NOT THE QUESTION MARK AFTER USED TO LMAO
@@strigzs5681 I genuinely don't know if he still does but it's like a thing in my social studies class now.
In a certain way, I feel bad for Tyler. He never met his mother, and his dad is always cold and distant from him, telling him nothing and doing nothing to bond with his son. Lonely and clueless young people are easier to manipulate cause they have no one to count on it. Throughout the series, we saw his relationship with his father, he always felt left out. in the episode where his father was going somewhere, he sarcastically told him that he wasn't fond of eating and watching tv together. When he see the Addams going to see the therapist together, he envied them, because Wednesday's parents were with her. The only person that approached him and showed a little (fake) interest in him was Lauren. She just wanted to use him for her own benefit. She saw that he was vulnerable and needed some answers, she took advantage of him and he ended up indebted to her for giving the answers that he was looking for. In the end, he ended by embracing his dark side cause it's the only part of him that really mattered to someone for the first time in his life. IF only the school principal had seen this coming or his father paid more attention to his son and tried to embrace what his son really is and not denied it.
Therefore, we really need to get some answers to what happened when the Hydes were excluded from the school, or how they were handled (Where did they go? because by just excluding them, would only make them more dangerous).
Furthermore: What relationship did Morticia have with Tyler's mother Francois? After all they fought side by side in "The Nightshades" to protect the outcast from repression and harm. Therefor it makes no sense that those in the club have been harmful to Francois, possibly they were protecting her. But again, Francois “Hyde” was first awakened when she had postpartum depression, so at that time she didn't even go to Nevermore anymore, which leads too:
What have Laurel actually told Tylers about Francois/his mother’s past? Does she even know the whole truth about what happened? Or was she just making something up/ad something untrue to the story, about the Outcasts/Nevermore being the “real” reason for his mother’s death, to manipulate him more and win him over. But, as we know, Francois didn’t even where at Nevermore when the “Hyde” inside of her were born, so something is missing here…?
Cause unfortunately there would always be someone who wants to exploit others in their advantage, including students and teachers at Nevermore, as well as nomies outside Nevermore. Maybe there really was someone trying to exploit/taking advantage of those students who were Hydes before they were banned? Or where is the real truth hidden?
I think that part could be interesting to explore In any case, it would make absolute no sense, if no one ever tries to finish the research that Nathaniel Faulkner did about Hydes, with the aim of preventing those who are Hydes from harming themselves or others in the future .
I think people forget that Wednesday is like also a sociopath? Like she tried to kill her brothers bullies...the reason why she was interested in the killer was because she was infatuated on to why someone would do it cuz *she* didn't get it (check out Jenna's interview on this) she didn't save Nevermore (initially) to be heroic but as a pride thing. But when she got closer to Enid and her other friends it's when it changed, Tyler was included in tht close circle. So for her, the first guys she's interested basically hurt her pride and the few few people she gives a fuck about. So it's this immense betrayal of both their romantic relationship and platonic. HOWEVER I don't think Tyler being a killer would sway her regarding her emotions for Tyler. Let's be honest here if anything I think she LIKED that part of him being a killer it's just the Context and WHO he Killed and why that bothered her . Its the fact that in Wensday eyes and also the audience that Tyler BETRAYED her and given the Addams family theme of unity even with difference and also Wednesday being prideful it's a double hit and understandable why she grows indifferent to spiteful of him, Tyler went against her , hurt her pride the few people she cares about AND her families morals. I headcanon that their exes that are still very much romantically and physically attracted to one another but can't because of all the shit that happened in the past.
Tyler’s perfect for her
ye but she doesn’t like being a killer or others killing ppl. she was mad at her parents for the death of gates
but she was also afraid the one like him after figuring out, from lover to ex and from love to hate
@@1saamor897 she more so didn’t like that her parents lied to her. And she is an objective detective.
Thank you. Someone else gets it.
People who harp on Tyler for being a psychopath...like did you not watch the first ten minutes of the show?!
1:27 first genuine smile of Wednesday and I had my doubts but why it had to be him I really loved them 😭😭
I think tyler was really enjoying himself during the ball and date. And wednesday actually smiled when he kissed him. Aand she loves blood and murder. Tyler is the perfect match. They’re both crazy and enjoy the darkness.
Yeah I hope in the upcoming season he learns to control his monster and they get together ♥️
I loved Tyler, but he almost killed Eugene, a little innocent boy, I don't think she can forgive that...I'm not sure if he actually regrets it or he meant what he said about enjoying killing, I wish it was Hyde and not Tyler
Yes 💖
@@emomsen1089 that's the thing tho, he ALMOST killed Eugene. He easily could've completed the murder but he didn't and I think it's because he knew how much Eugene mattered to Wednesday.
@@jadehunter9868 Wdym Wednesday came before he could kill him and also he said to Wednesday he liked killing all his victims.
1:20 Wednesday: "Of course, the first boy I kiss would turn out to be a psychotic, serial killing monster. I guess I have a type." ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I dont like xavier cuz hes got a 'nice guy' complex where he seems to think wednesday has to like him because hes nice (bare minimum) to her, and then gets moody and annoyed with her when she doesnt. She doesnt owe him that just because hes nice.
I kinda agree with you, but seriously, wouldn't you be a little pissed too if someone would think you're a cold hearted murderer monster, would ask you to a ball just to prove her point and get you arrested, and then would ask for your help, while being all chained in a dirty cell because of her? No hate, just sayin'
he was mad because she FALSELY accused him of being a hyde that was killing everyone and then she asked him for help after locking him up and not listening to him. i think you would be mad too. and tbh tyler had the same complex he said she was “giving him signals” when he knows shes not a romantic person at all but thats just how i interpretated it.
0:54
3:19 3:20
T H I S.
bro for real this show is actually making me deppresed i NEED tyler and wednesday TOGETHER for s2
why am i still so attracted to him. and the concept of them together.
Fr
because they are both messed up, twisted people who cared for each other and would be a glorious, twisted mess together, the very essence of the addams family!
@@rant3044 oh please Tyler never cared for Wednesday. The one time he saved her was also because his master needed Wednesday alive till the blood moon.
Yep
I love the contrast of Wednesday presenting as a monster while being a good person on the inside and Tyler presenting as a good person but being a monster on the inside.
Wednesday is psychopath learning how to pretend to care about others.
@@Dularr that’s not true at all
@@Dularr hmmmm, i would have to object... what you are saying is just the outside of wednesday. deep down, she's actually one of us, humans who have emotions. my opinion tho~~ :0
@@5yreghre824 I don’t think that they actually watched the show lol
@@5yreghre824 no, I'm in the camp that Wednesday has no genuine emotions, particularly no empaty.
For some reason I still ship them. Tyler reminds me of Klaus Mikaelson. A monster created by someone else. Klaus by his parents, Tyler by Laurel. I do believe he can be redeemed and I hope he does. I think that if he was truly someone who doesn't care, is cold, a murderer with no redeeming qualities then he wouldn't tear up like it's shown at the end of this video. He'd probably laugh like a psychopath. I believe there's good in him, hopefully we get to see that in S2. ^^
let's hope they don't do Tyler as dirty as they did with Klaus and Caroline!
@@Sop1916 istg if they do, I’m suing. I’m a huge Klaroline fan and I’m starting to become a huge Tyler and Wednesday fan as well.
i still ship them he just needs to redeem himself - he was literally tortured to get the hyde to come out of him, he was manipulated and abused, he can't just go back to being normal after all that trauma. yeah i know he killed people but i really just need him tgo have good character development and for wednesday and tyler to be together again PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Also, a psychotic serial killer would be perfect for her
Finally a human that has a brain
@@akeet96 wednesday seem to hate him after finding out he was the hyde, so no he was in fact not perfect for her
Simp
She love tyler but not the hyde.
Edit: does that makes sense?
I just finished this and I’m heartbroken 💔 I loved both Tyler and Xavier, but I never once suspected that Tyler was the Hyde. I shipped them so hard 😭
I suspected him but was hoping to be wrong. Hell even when he revealed himself I was hoping he actually liked her deep down even if I knew he didn't. It was heartbreaking to be right.
What I don't understand is that the Addams family always had a different moral code than everyone else so why wouldn't Wednesday like a serial killer? Even the black and white TV show expressed how murder wasn't an issue for them and police definitely wouldn't touch the Addams because they are afraid.
This was a whole different take on Addams while still trying to keep it Addams. I think it was mainly inspired by the youtube web series "Adult Wednesday Addams Season 1 & 2" by Melissa Hunter, she had it taken down on her youtube due to copyright but you can still find it on other channels that have reposted.
@@veezbeez4015 I don't think it was based on that but I agree that this is a different take of the Addams Family since Jenna Ortega literally said that on an interview.
@@givemebackmybias1457 Yeah, i watched her interviews (a couple of them)
but he manipulated her, multiple times, that’s not hot and she wouldn’t like that
@@eh9147 They actually respect that
Their character is so exceptional... I like the relationship they have and hoping for more complexity as the show progress but would want them to have an end game
Yeah I hope they find a way to show Tyler really loved her (if he did) and not let someone unlock him or something
@@youarecheesefaceit me too... I would want it to kinda knowing what a hyde really is and letting them have character developments... It would be fun to be frustrated because they have an on and off relationship (seems toxic but it would definitely give some insights about how you work on that feelings and relationships)
I hope Tyler gets a redemption episode and I hope they can continue their love story
only an episode ?
@@lauraentzi7143 a season !! MY WHOLE LIFE !!!
@@lauraentzi7143 well no, over the season I should have said. I'm sorry
The actors, have great chemistry!!!!!
My opinion about Tyler...
We don't know Tyler yet. We saw him already manipulated. What I do know is that before he met that woman, he was broke and depressed because of his mother. And because of the bad relationship with his father.
I don't know how far it is Tyler and the monster. The police hallway scene, to me obviously wasn't Tyler. It was manipulation.
What I'm saying is that he was used, abused. I really wanted to see that in season two. How much was this manipulation?
Of course, controlling the monster isn't easy, but without manipulation, who is Tyler?
I'm really interested in seeing that in season two. I'm sorry, but I see that in a certain part, he is innocent yes.
Look, not everything is about ships. There is no Tyler and Wedsnesday. That was all a setup. They have amazing chemistry, and I shiped them. But it wasn't real. I just hope he can get a second chance, and be happy with his dad.
Not everything is about ships.
I love your points.
While victims of trauma can be prone to manipulation during periods of hopelessness, I honestly disliked the hyde twist from a character perspective. Tyler's efforts in therapy and desire to go with his father suggested he wasn't resolute in any kind of closure over his mother's passing. If Laurel seemingly gave him answers, why was he still searching? Why make a continued effort?
I don't feel like his behavior on his own tracked with the twist either. When Thing (best character) first came to him, Tyler reacted with fear but quickly backed off once the emotion passed. At this point, he was unaware that the little handy man was associated with Wednesday, so there was no reason to respond with anything other than his genuine self. While alone, he wasn't vindictive at the break in, instead cooperating with little fight beyond the initial bat debacle. Likewise, the "hint" about his nature (screaming in the bathtub) didn't sit right. He chose a harmless emotional outlet, something that was neither destructive nor pointed toward any one person or group. It was merely yelling into water, and that shit is good for releasing the inner 'motions. Done it plenty of times...Very therapeutic. My personal coping mechanisms aside, Tyler's public and private personas were nearly identical, which made such a change feel unwarranted.
At this point, I too don't feel like we know Tyler. No fault to Hunter, he played the character very well and had a great screen presence. I honestly just don't know where they're going with this, and right now, it just doesn't make sense to me.
@@virginiabonnie780 Its because in season 1 we dont have the point of view of Tyler. We get Wednesday's point of view and the woman who controls him.
We don't know when Tyler is talking to Wed at the police station, if it was him talking. At least I don't know, I was confused. It would be interesting in season 2 to show Tyler's point of view from the beginning. To see how much of that was manipulation by hypnosis. To see if at some point in s1 it was him. But I don't know, maybe the writers are just going to make him the villain, and not delve into that, which would be a shame.
@@jhenniferandrade8722 It would like if they in a potential season 2 explored this scenario:
First of all I would be exciting to see Wednesday go to Nevermore again, now with a new principal hired, which potentially could be Wednesday's mother Morticia (which Wednesday probably doesn't seem entirely happy about). For my perspective It could be interesting to let their relationship grow and for them to get closer. We also need to explore and get some answers to what happened when the Hydes were excluded from the school, or how they were handled (Where did they go? because by just excluding them, would only make them more dangerous).
Furthermore: What relationship did Morticia have with Tyler's mother Francois? After all they fought side by side in "The Nightshades" to protect the outcast from repression and harm. Therefor it makes no sense that those in the club have been harmful to Francois, possibly they were protecting her. But again, Francois “Hyde” was first awakened when she had postpartum depression, so at that time she didn't go to Nevermore anymore, which leads too:
What have Laurel actually told Tylers about Francois/his mother’s past? Does she even know the whole truth about what happened? Or was she just making something up/ad something untrue to the story, about the Outcasts/Nevermore being the “real” reason for his mother’s death, to manipulate him more and win him over. But, as we know, Francois didn’t even where at Nevermore when the “Hyde” inside of her were born, so something is missing here…?
Cause unfortunately there would always be someone who wants to exploit others in their advantage, including students and teachers at Nevermore, as well as nomies outside Nevermore. Maybe there really was someone trying to exploit/taking advantage of those students who were Hydes before they were banned? Or where is the real truth hidden?
I think that part could be interesting to explore In any case, it would make absolute no sense, if no one ever tries to finish the research that Nathaniel Faulkner did about Hydes, with the aim of preventing those who are Hydes from harming themselves or others in the future .
Why he hated wednesday? And her family? They didnt do anything to his mother…did they?
@@jhenniferandrade8722 while seeing one’s direct point of view can be an important narrative tool, it shouldn’t be a bandaid for poor characterization. In order to sell that twist of evil via corruption and manipulation, we as viewers deserve to see those effects throughout the series…even if in just small glimpses. Like you said, the police station felt like a completely different character. It didn’t match at all with any of what Tyler was previous established to be. I feel like they wanted so badly to surprise the viewer that they made him into two disjointed characters. Right now, I don’t know who he is, and I’m not 100% sold that the writers know any more than me. If there is more to be explored in following seasons, I’ll definitely be there to watch, but right now I’m just disappointed.
I got spoiled that Tyler is the Hyde. I still feel betrayed coz I like him for Wednesday.
Same girl
I had it spoiled too (I was looking up the actors and it had the character’s name listed as “Tyler/The Hyde”). I thought maybe he was being controlled or didn’t know what was going on and maybe that was how they’d keep him around for next season; have him enrol at Nevermore and learn to control his powers. But I honestly did not expect him to be completely evil :(
enemies to lover for next season
He’s definitely a lot more interesting now
generic white boy is a brilliant cover up
@@user-insight hopefully she doesn’t end up with Xavier. One generic white boy is enough lol
After the reveal, I'm still down with this ship. The look he had after he said you have no idea what's coming, he looked conflicted. Hoping they'll be more of them if there's a season 2
If you think that's what love look like you need help 💀Stop romanticing psychopaths
@@maevab2923 you have to remember this is the Addams Family we’re talking about, the rules are different. Applying real world morals won’t work. Although Wednesday seems to be “toned down” a bit so we’ll see
@@maevab2923 Wednesday literally threw piranhas in a high school swimming pool... Most of the characters aren't exactly angels.
@@maevab2923 bro Wednesday and Tyler are both crazy psychopaths 😂 the only thing I guess Wednesday hates about Tyler is how he manipulated her
@@maevab2923bro they both are literally a killer they both killed people
guys.... he's not a bad person...trust me... maybe we'll learn more about his stories in the next season....I'm not trying to justify anyone but....I don't wanna give up on him just yet
yesss please i wanna see them together again i mean he is not a bad person 😭😭
When is the next season
*BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST YOU* - Says in Tessa Young voice.
Jokes! I agree with you. I want sappy to happen with them!
@@snowieplays pov you cannot wait.
@@snowieplaysidk maybe late 2023 but I doubt it so it’ll probably be sometime in early 2024
That last scene..when he says bad things,but with tears in his eyes.. the conflict between good and evil inside him..hope he doesn't sacrifice his life for her in the end, to show how much she means to him..😭
I think smthg like that could very well happen. I wish they were endgame, they could be happy together, but I feel like the show is setting up Wavier.
@@fanc.5711 I think you're right. Xavier is so uninteresting as a character and too entitled.
@@fanc.5711 he got fired from Wednesday s2
Bullshit. I’ve seen that look before. Even you fell for it just now and that’s just TV.
I don’t think people realize what Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is they are two split personalities and the one where he’s nice is his genuine feeling and so is the Hyde but it’s basically the sinister things he’s wanted to do but couldn’t as his other character but those emotions are amplified
2:19 this scene makes me sorry for him. He didn't control that he was manipulated. It is sad. And like why especially after the kiss she need to have this vision? Like if she needed to kiss him to find that he is the monster. He was just the victim and he was suffering from pain. It isn't his fault. Really depressing story for me.
i still want them together i think he will change in the season two 😢
nooo
Wednesday for me Only
Yes
that legit cant happen bruh look at what the plot lead to
He was acting the whole time though
i just finished the show today, 10/10
on the side note I would never ever think that Tyler would actually be a hyde,
how dare they make the cute boy evil. absolutely unacceptable.
@StrawberryEclairesdid their tongue work? I think they're making out, if Wednesday didn't get a vision
😂ikr
My mom kept saying that he was sus but I was like nahhhh he's innocent😂😂
@@scarlettprice8311 yes he is suspicious cause when the Hyde "attack him" He didn't die just a lil bit hurt so that is weird
thats reality right there 🙌🏻
He was her first kiss damn
I feel like Wednesday is lowkey into Tyler when he hit the 180 flip personality and is a monster of a person
They have so much chemistry....i like him as a villain! Wednesday is no good with his feelings and he could make her go deeper. Mixed love, hate, anger...she would be cruel and yet emocional with him. And she didn't get Tyler what he deserves yet.
I'm actually reading every single comment and theories to convince myself that Tyler isn't the bad guy and his love for Wednesday was real 😁🤞🏻 srsly I can't imagine a better pairing with Wednesday; he is evil enough to be her BF.
Finally a normal good opinion about this duo I respect you so much 🫶🏻🫶🏻
@@thomastzioros9234 🙏🏻🌸
exactly like people are against wednesday x tyler because hes a psychotic killer but so is wednesday lmao
@@laila.jw08 imagine 1 or 2 puppies hydes cute monsters 😂😂
I love your comment, And I Love Wednesday & Tyler love team because they are match in heaven 😍😍😍
I like Tyler, and I don't think that Tyler is toxic. Guys he's a MONSTER he can't control himself. And he must do things that his owner says.
I think he has two personalities I mean like split personality. He was really into Wednesday and he was good. He is good now too. But his dark side became more powerful. And he doesn't control it now, that's why he said terrible things to Wednesday at the police office.
His face changed really quickly and I think it's weird. There's a battle inside him. Bit now dark side wins.
I like Xavier too. I think there will be more interaction between them in season two.
But I think Tyler has a chance with Wednesday.
I STILL WANT TYLER THAN XAVIER 😢
Lollll Tyler is a evil psychopath. Let’s just ignore the fact that he enjoys killinh
@@greatestnitemare6626 Just like Wednesday enjoys too, you are hypocrite.
@@isabellelilausa9907 good bad vs bad bad she didn’t kill innocent ppl that hadnt done anything did she?
I do think he has a chance but he is giving me Darth Vader vibes, villain till the very end.
Sooooooo, purely in the context of this show, where our antiheroine has psychopathic tendencies anyway ... I have to admit I still ship them. In fact, now I think it could actually work out. (After a redemption arc, of course.) I always thought Tyler was adorable, but also a lamb to the slaughter. Then he orchestrated that picnic in the crypt with the 'horror' film and I thought, 'Actually, they could be a really cute couple until he becomes cannon fodder.' Now I think he's a better match for her longer term, provided he's Jekyll a much as he's a Hyde.
The only time I liked Xavier was when he explained his painting of Wednesday playing the cello and I agreed with him. The rest of the time he seemed needy and petulant.
I mean Wednesday Addams psycho with her psycho Tyler bf, I can totally see it
He is the best suit for Wednesday, someone who can match her energy!! Who are we to decide what's love and what's not with Wednesday and Tyler
Delusional
This is the best edit I have ever watched, truly captured Tyler essence. It's giving me hope that Tyler can get better.
He played his role professionally. He was so sincere at the very beginning. I thought there was something between these two... Looks like it was a mistake. It makes me upset😢
I figured out the twist way early on about the hyde's owner, but I was taken completely by surprise by Tyler's words to Wednesay in the police station- talk about a fantastic build up that felt out of left field but when you go back and listen to his words everything made so much sense I was so angry- good writing! good show!
I love how your edit captured the intensity. Their relationship before, I just thought of it as cute. I knew he was suspicious...but after the police station scene I really wanted them together. That they're both messed up, and could relate on morbid topics Wednesday would say. I don't know. I just want Wednesday to have a partner that she could converse with about topics that she likes.
i think his monster side makes him apsycho but deep inside he really love her, you could kind of see the pain in his eyes when he said the "you have no idea what's coming"
if they find a cure in the season two, he will be the love interest for sure : he never wanted to become a psycho and he's not, every weird thoughts he got were made about the red haired normie and keeped by the monster
Yeah it almost looked like he was crying
Xavier tells Wednesday he likes her, and Tyler does things that make Wednesday like him.
I mean, that is how you can get a girlfriend.
When he said, “and it was delicious” that was it. im in. this is the ship im sinking on.
Yeah talking about how you murder and frighten people is real charming and cute
@Pyry Markkanen ...this is Wednesday Addams, not Twilight.
I don't want a sappy romance, I want murder, mystery and action.
I feel bad for Tyler tbh- like he was forced into something you never knew abt and grew mad at the intense murder he caused😭
I’m excited to see what he’ll be like in season 2
Their chemistry is something else 🤍
No cause I still ship them 😭
this is the best wednesday edit I've ever seen, especially the "did you think this was smart" snap part
tyler x wednesday best ship ever ever ever ever ever ever ever evere vere
no
@@myrmillo7986 yes
@@myrmillo7986 yes
@@myrmillo7986 reply me if u like 8 year old girls
@@stelarushaj LMFAO
one thing im still confused by is if it was an act all along or if he really did fall for her
its an act so tyler can gain wednesday trust
I think it was real. He wasn’t in control when laurel brought the Hyde out but through the show you can see his personal fight with himself even when telling her it’s hun and “bragging” he’s starting to cry that’s the real tyler inside screaming. You have to think about the fact the Hyde literally protected Wednesday multiple times. He had plenty of chances to kill her and didn’t. It’s like jackyll and Hyde kind of situation
@@raegenarmer2351 Tyler didnt kill her because she needed to be alive to summon crackstone
There's one thing that people are forgetting to account for. At the beginning of the series, Tyler saved Wednesday's life while being a Hyde. It happened in the scene where she ran into the forest and the nerd told her he was going to kill her to save the school. Tyler probably followed Wednesday and when he noticed she was in danger, stepped in to save her life. He would also hold himself back from hurting her when he was a Hyde. Then there was a shift where he started to go after her and hurt Thing. I think this shift was caused by Laurel. I think he did love her at one point, but due to Laurel, he changed. I think Laurel might have told him to attack Wednesday.
He saved her just because the red hair needed her alive to bring back to life the peregrine dude
@@murielyllanes Maybe. I mean we don't have his point of view, but there was definitely a shift between him protecting her and her becoming his target.
@@anakerendoofenshmertz9985 Stfu. He’s evil af
Bruh he saved her life cuz damn teacher said it cuz she was the only key that teacher wants
@@kadambaeva1181 this
My heart sank when he made his confession 😭
One thing is for sure they LIKE each other. Perfect Killer Couple
No Laurel.. you made him a monster!
I think, above all the arguments about Tyler being suitable for Wednesday, a quotation of her will work.
She said after their kiss and her vision that, she isn’t surprised to see her first man turning out to be a psycho serial killer monster, bcz, she definitely has a type.
And Tyler is the Type.
AND tyler father married a outcast so only natural that Tyler will like a outcast too so seem like Tyler has a type too and it Wednesday
@@ellaxlopez Tyler himself is an outcast right
I can totally see Wednesday being more attracted to him than ever when they were in the woods after she is stabbed by Crackstone and he comes close to her, grabbed her collar, and just looked into her eyes for a second. lmao. I know they said no romance next season but I feel like this will be a ongoing problem for Wednesday with him. Like, she was into him as the boy-next-door normie but not enough that she was crying after she realized who he was. But now she's seen the dark side of him and you know there is nobody better for a girl like Wednesday. I can see Laurel either being dead or her control over him broken, and him either being free to do what HE wants or Wednesday being his master because she killed Laurel, Tyler working for redemption by working with them and helping them (I laughed at the sheriff saying something about Velma and the Scooby Gang because I can see that being what the group ultimately turns into: Wednesday, Enid, Bianca, Kent, Davina, Yoko, Ajax and MAYBE Xavier if he stays in his fucking lane...hell...maybe even normie Lucas if he is dating Bianca) investigating and trying to eliminate the huge threat to outcasts. I feel it is implied in the final scenes of the season that there is a bigger conspiracy at play and that Laurel's plan was just a facet of it. And Tyler and Wednesday working together makes it hard for her to just forget her feelings and she finds herself very much attracted to his hyde side as well. I don't know WHY Jenna and whoever think this wouldn't add an interesting element to the plot. Wednesday showed interest in boys in the 90s movies. She was a child in most of the other iterations which explains no love interests. The couple where she's a teen, she is interested in boys. Just not the typically boy crazy, romance minded girl we typically think of with teen girls. It doesn't have to FOCUS on the romance but I think the fighting Wednesday does with herself over her feelings for him while needing to utilize his help, and him having falling for her in the first season and not totally letting that go leaving a lot of "sexual" tension between them in the midst of everything else...that's good tv, man!
Did they actually say no Romance nest season
"I did a terrible thing but I swear I'm not a terrible person" always gets me😭😭😭😭 I honestly don't know what to think about Tyler anymore like I liked him from the beginning and now they made him a murder like what😭 I'm curious how will autors potray his character in season 2
Wednesday is a tough nut to crack, and Tyler did it. Tyler made her feel something and, more importantly, made her *show* it. He had feelings for her on some level and I don't doubt that because Wednesday is a person who is difficult to get to know and even harder to open up. You wouldn't keep coming back to her unless you had some powerful feelings towards her. However, the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde ends with Jekyll becoming Hyde permanently. Hyde took over Tyler, and Laurel Gates didn't help that. But Tyler isn't really to blame. Hyde isn't Tyler and the Tyler in the finale is just Hyde with Tyler's face.
I 100% agree! I just finished the show and really thought about it. It’s not Tyler’s fault! Laurel tortured him and brainwashed him into loving the feeling. Tyler is not the Hyde.
@@Laraisthegreatest I don't think Wednesday will trust him completely ever again, but she does care about him. Who knows? Maybe there's a redemption arc in there somewhere.
I really hope he gets a redemption arc :(
@@yashironene9565 yeah same
@@Luc42 Yeah, probably. It was shock for her to know that person that she put a trust on or felt something than friend, it is turn to be the killer she is looking for. But obviously, I am not blaming Tyler. Poor boy..😭 I couldn't stand seeing him being tortured in that cave for who is know how long there to make him turn in someone that he don't want to be...I hope also in a redemption arc... I cannot accept this end of him being close in a psychiatric hospital or something like that....
I think he did love her
I am sad that it was tyler but please give tyler a second chance..i like this ship hehehe
PLEASE DIRECTORS GET THEM BACK TOGETHER IN SEASON 2!!!
I think he did love her, he was abused, traumatized, and controlled by Laurel. She mentally, verbally, and maybe even sexually abused him….. Tyler feelings towards her definitely seemed true. Laurel was abusive and controlling. But he could have just been playing it off nice, I know people( old friends) who seemed so nice and normal until they backstabbed you and started talking shit. I think he loved her, but he may not off. I really don’t know what to expect for season 2!
This is friends to lovers to enemies
But let's not forget Tyler was used
team Tayler always forever idc
tbh Wednesday didn't deserve this okay maybe she's a horrible psychotic person but nobody deserves their heart being broken, just when she was just starting to love
Wen need to see Tyler and Wednesday confrontation in the second season, it'd be DELICIOUS to watch
I know he loves her and they need to be together there perfect for each other
he tried to kill her?
But he did love her
@@cypstfu "he tried to kill her?" If we are talking about Wednesday Addams here, then he passed the flirting stage with flying colors. After all, it is canonically established that torture is a quality family time within the Adams family. I think people tend to forget that within the franchise the Adams family is obsessed with everything related to death, decay and danger. They could be seen as the inversion of the nuclear family. The killing part might be the line here, but even then I am not so sure. Tyler by himself as a character fits very neatly into the whole Adams family aesthetic.
@@mIRI567 I feel like Tyler's feelings are genuine..
He used her I believe it was all a act
Omg this video is so well done it's breaking my heart all over again 😭😭 pleeeeeaaseee i honestly need these two to have a happy ending together
Was I the only one who saw that he was about to cry at the police station? No one is talking about that! I was so sad-
Ikr! i think laurel was forcing him to say those awful things and he couldnt control it
@@lucyvt15 that would make sense... u_u
it was clearly an act wth are you talking about. The tear was clearly for show for the other people around him to show how "devastated" and hurt he was by Wednesday's actions
Literally! I believe the ginge i don’t remember her name lmao was forcing him to say that but ons he didn’t wanna say it cuz he loves her yk?
@@lucyvt15 laurel doesnt have a telepathic bond with him he was in control of what he was saying laurel was nowhere near him 💀
Nah gotta believe enemies to lovers in season 2 without Thornhill maybe he’ll get Wednesday to be his master or some shit or have a redemption arc either way I need them together in season 2 so bad
Fr I felt so sad when she found out that he was the monster :(
OH. MY. GOD. This was amazing! You've blended their lines, impressions and reactions so perfectly, which I think is REALLY impressive since you had only eight episodes to get creative with.
I'd say the best edit I've seen of them so far. Great job, really :)
Thank you so much ❤
I FEEL USEDDDD😭😭😭😭😭😭
Shit i need some serious help cause i still ship them😭😭
Same bro💀
he isnt necessarily a villian, he was manipulated by the normie teacher 100%
Same 😭😭😭😭😭
Same bru
Lovers to enemies 🙂
Mmmmm hopefully enemies to lovers
A nice twist to the cliche
I hope Tyler and Wednesday get back together I think the Hyde part of Tyler was controlling him
I think he still has feeling for her but he can't control him self cuz he's being mind controlled
nah he said she has no idea what's coming that was a threat
@@haz9923 It can also be a warning.
@@kpoppy9635 same thing
@@haz9923 not always.
@@haz9923 I also said he is being mind controlled lol have you seen other movies that also happens?
Also Opinions mate
Tylor has two sides, one of them loves Wednesday unequivocally 🖤 My theory is that there is someone else behind all this (maybe another Hyde). I don't know if T & W will have a happy ending, but the chemistry between them is just a blast. Let's hope that in the next season they will show us more and reveal the main characters and show everything that happened before and after
Much like his namesake of Jekyl & Hyde!
He never loved her
It makes me wonder because he is tearing up when he tell her that she doesn't know what is coming, being that he loves her and maybe doesn't want to cause the damage that will happen?
@@chibikooky4665 Probably. Because he knows that side him can kill her with no mercy when it is active. He didn't want to kill her or anyone else but the other personality , yes as like the story of Dr Jack and Hyde,
NETFLIX, YOUR DMS WILL BE FILLED WITH MY ANGRY MESSAGES UNTIL YOU MAKE TYLER X WEDNESDAY A BETTER SHIP-
What a perfect edit omg
Just for the record, I fully called he’d be evil in the fourth episode when he said ‘I thought we liked each other’
How come ? That was just a normal statement he said
@@destinydouglas7046 it’s a murder mystery show with a seemingly unfeeling heroine that falls for the soft boy, he’s either dead or evil and with Wednesday specifically I feel like him being evil would’ve been better for the story (also Xavier was wayyy to obvious)
Actually Tyler never was a bad person and villain in my opinion. He always was a lost boy manipulated by this cruel woman... He loves Wednesday, I know it. I know it. ❤
He confessed to being a sadist murderer. And he warned/threatened wednesday at the end. But I do feel that he doesn't want to be that way and it's the Jekyll and hyde effect where he really doesnt want to be that way but it's just who he is and he cant help it. Thought I'd share my opinion in reply to yours
He definitely loves her nevertheless
@@emma-km6cf Yep
He is still being used I think, there is someone else we are not seeing in the shadows. Something we missed! They are the perfect couple for sure
@@slicesofsib5572yes this is a good comment
I can feel that we are missing something but we don’t what is it
Am I the only one that thought it was hot when he confessed in the end..?
Honestly, if there is someone capable of taming a Hyde, it'll probably be Wednesday. Could be pretty cool
it’s love, it was real to me 😢
am I the only one who fell for him after his confession?
u fall for manipulative and murderous ppl?
@@michaelegotti6439 Tyler was groomed and abused... It's pretty clear watching from that scene that he was grappling with how he'd been brainwashed as well as his feelings for Wednesday. For me, the confession scene solidified that there's still some good in him :) just my opinion though
@Tensei for a split second you see the real tyler if you watch his eyes
@@lucydover3858 I don't think that he was groomed or abused.
@@doldfamily9983 you cant really have an opinion on that… it’s literally shown in the show 💀 thornhill chained him up and tortured him AND groomed and manipulated him into thinking outcasts were evil and it was their fault his mum died… there’s really no way to have an opinion on a fact 💀
Soledad, thank you for this amazing video! the moment at 0:12 is genious!
I was so stupid I rlly fell for his act
i was just rly icked out by him. Then he turned out to be the hyde-
@@enderflames9669 that was me with Xavier who is too cocky and only likes the idea of Wednesday not the actually Wednesday 😭
@@queenbeet688 heres the thing, I dislike both of them. Out of everyone else wednesday cld have possibly liked(imo wednesday shldnt have a love interest anyways considering her chac), she fell in love with TYLER. A basic boy that has not personality other than being nice. There's nothing memorable about him, hence why i feel like him being her love interest was soooo out of place.
Xavier at least have a personality, and thats why i much rather her end up with him. As you said he was cocky, and thats great you know theres smth about him that actually STICKS OUT, because the last guy i expect wednesday to like is some bland nice guy with no personality.
Me too
"I did something terrible but I swear I'm not a terrible person". This wasn't really about that stupid jokes with his friends, come on. It was deeper and I think this was the first clue that he's a hyde. He did something terrible (killed many people of course) but HE IS NOT a terrible person. Lauren manipulated him.
I believe him too.
I believe the first sign was him telling her that at least one of them will get out of this hellfull town and he wished he coud go with her (probably wanting to run away from the Hyde curse).
In my opinion, Taylor was in love with Wansday because if he wasn't in love with her, he wouldn't ask if wensday would be his girlfriend and their relationship would be on the level of friends. 😭My dream at the moment is for Taylor to get on the right track. I'm very disappointed that their relationship turned out this way.
When Xavier gets Wednesday
Me @Tyler simps : How does it feel? To lose?
If Tyler gets her then vice versa
As much as I love him, Tyler is way beyond redemption. He thinks outcasts are the reason he and his mother are hurt. He never loved Wednesday, he would kill her, he hurt her friends, he ENJOYS KILLING. No one comes back from that. He Won't as well. And if Wednesday goes back to him I'll lose a lot of respect because I only have respect for Wednesdays intolerance to such bullshit.
I used to be Tyler team, but now Xavier ftw.
Dont know ab Xavier tho, he seems way too OBSESSED with her
@@atNguyen-cr5ub I'll take obsessed over murderous intent any day
Are you crazy that is creepy and Wednesday never like the other guy and Tyler was there for Wednesday and he was ready for her and he does care about her the only reason wy it seems like that was one he was mind controlled and he was in pin and she didn't have the right to do that for him just for a stupid reason 😤😤😤😤😤😤🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😰😰😰😰 I was Tyler and Wednesday back together 😰😰😰😰😰😰😰
@@ashleygalicia6389 tyler was there for Wednesday because he had to keep her Alive as to his masters order. Also what right of hers are you talking about?
@@cryingcontinuously5729 he was mind controlled he was obeying his master you just said it if you're mind control you're going to have to do everything that your master tells you to do even though you're going to hurt the people that you love he loves Wednesday and he cares about her and sorry that part was wrong opos
People saying that we shouldn't blame Tyler bc he's a victim and was manipulated by ms.thornhill need to realize that he was manipulated into doing her bidding but him actually enjoying the killings was all on his own so he's still held accountable for that and is not a full victim(don't even think he's one to begin with)
Is funny how you all that is judging Tyler but likes Wednesday that tried to KILL a boy because he practiced bullying with her brother, that is obviously not a excuse to try to kill someone, and she showed no remorse on doing it, when she saw the paint, she thought was blood at first, so she smiled , she is also a “psychopath” just like Tyler, the difference is that Tyler was MANIPULATED, TORTURED and FORCED to become something he didn’t wanted to, while Wednesday is “bad” because that is how she is, Tyler has a dark side just like Wednesday, but he is not evil like you all are saying he is.
@@isabellelilausa9907I’ll repeat this Wednesday might deal with things differently and in a dark way because that’s just how she is. She was born like that. She’s an outcast in a school of outcasts. From the series it was clear that she only wished death on those who were deserving of it. Her mind is dark but there’s good in her heart and most of her actions prove that she’s got a good heart but a darker mind… you can’t compare Wednesday and Tyler because they are different and Wednesday was born dark but she’s good in her own dark way unlike Tyler
@@Frenchbae Technically he was born like that too, just that he discovered it later
he started to like killing his victims because of turning into a Hyde so many times and that wasn’t his fault, he was being manipulated by Thornhill to change. Remember at some point, Hydes become numb to what they do. They will do anything their masters say and they will think it’s right because it’s what their masters think it’s right. Like a dog to their owner.
@@macpcnriles Yea, that is right, is not his fault
for me it would have been much logical that Xavier was the monster tbh his obsession with Wednesday was just creepy he liked her and had only spoke to her once lol it was so weird at least Tyler got to know her and spend time with her but knowing that Tyler is the monster makes Xavier way more creepy idk why some ppl ship it
He likes her because she saved his life before. They probably got to know each other as kids.
@@chaosspy6723 so? lol if a total stranger saved my life i would be really grateful thats it but being completely obsessed over them and have a massive crush just because of that it aint it lol even if they knew each other as kids they have grown and they don’t anymore like it’s still weird
Lol I feel the same. Wednesday doesn't even remember meeting Xavier until he tells her the details, so it probs wasn't anything dramatic. I really can't imagine anyone obsessing over a person they met just ONE time when they were kids, even if it's a life saving encounter. If the writers really do want to put in a romance arc season 2, I hope Tyler becomes redeemable because Xavier is just a big NO. He's always sulking and acts like Wednesday owes him a big deal when she doesn't.
hero syndrome
I do Not ship xavier and Wednesday being obsessed to people just because they saved you is definitely a weird feeling
They have a good chemistry as good friends but not more
(This is my opinion i ship them as friends not lovers)
No hate
Prediction: Tyler comes and saves Wednesday and tries to regain her love by telling her it was a mistake and etc but she will never see him the same again
He never had feelings for her, so I don't understand how it will be possible but it maybe can, I'm just saying he was only there because of Ms. Thornhill's plan
Plz let this happend i was sad that wesndays true live was the villain
@@lovely7029 The actor himself confirmed the feelings were real, it's just that laurels mission took priority considering shes literally his master.
Too bad that prediction is so wrong 😂
@@lovely7029 I also don’t understand why for goddamn reason people like shipping Wednesday and Tyler 😂
While Xavier who saved her from the gargoyle was always by her side 🫠
Tyler deserves better
The real plot twist for me was at 0:57 obviously i didnt want it to be true and thought smth like her vision was lying to her, but it is 😭
yeah that part was really painful to watch