Crusaders Coach Hits Back at Journalist - Was He Right?
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- Crusaders Coach Rob Penney dropped a C-Bomb after his interview with a journalist from One News. Was he right to call the whole thing a disgrace? Or is this the price he pays for the losing record his team has in 2024
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*Correction - Havili-Talitui is with Moana Pasifika this year, so actually the Saders back row is also disjointed. Grace has played more games this year than last year though
Were the questions fair? Life isn't fair. Sometimes you get the short end of the stick or the bad bounce of the ball. It just is.
The bigger story is how the heck can a team with a 2-10 record still be in the running for the title. What the heck is the point of the round robin.
Agreed. It should be brought down to the top 4
Crazy alright. The Saffas are a big loss to this comp.
This has been the case for a while to get a few more games for the TV rights perhaps?.
The point is this competition solely exists to make money, and since NZR and ARU don't make a lot of money, there are more games to boost their revenue. Why are there more finals slots you ask? Simply put, they need more money.
@@jamescooper-hope6930@liverpool6058 we as Saffas miss Super Rugby. Was very dear to hearts this comp. Old rivalries fierce comp it was super special.
Journos with pre-prepared questions are essentially useless.
Yeah I like it when they at least give some thought to the answer given and then ask a follow up. Rather than just rattling off a list
I don't know. We live in a world where we expect the hard questions to be asked. He's only asking.😢
Thanks to my English, Aussie and Kiwi friends I’ve incorporated the C bomb into my vocabulary.
Churr... Hearty as my bro. You defo a good C🙊🙉t!!.
Thanks to Tom Curry too😂😂
Why is Rob Penney even the Crusaders coach? Aren't there heaps of better choices in Canterbury? He has the lowest record for an NZ Super Rugby coach with more than 20 games. Just look at him during the Waratahs.
He is almost the lowest record of ANY super coach ever. He is ranked 70 out of 71. That's shocking. Especially since Razor was 1 of 70
It's called gutter journalism....
A barrage of questions designed to provoke a response....
Regardless of the Coaching results, without asking directly about the injury list and player loss is not competent research....
The "reporter" knew full well his questions could result in a classic gotcha moment....they even left the microphone live after the ambush/interview ended....
Anyways, Beaudy's back.....
Great video and especially the comparison with the players in the final last year. Who'd be a coach? Thankfully people do choose to be but there's such huge scrutiny snd pressure.
Keep Penny as coach....from a Canes fan😉
Why did the W/Tahs sack him......Penny was appointed as he was a mate of the current CEO, see Burnside connection, Penny's level as a coach was NPL, full stop. THE current team is not showing the polish and shine that they had under Razor...WHY...that is down to the coach
Hello Mark - I think we are all grown up and things are said in the heat of the moment. I have started to follow the Crusaders because of the Welsh connection.
Lost to
Chiefs by 4
Waratahs by 13
Fiji by 10
Hurricanes by 4
Blues by 20
Waratahs by 3
Force by 22
Reds by 5
Highlanders by 3
Brumbies by 7
So apart from waratahs blues and force most of these games were close and if a few of them had gone differently we might have had them in the quarters, so I think we are being harsh it takes time to build a team.
stop with the excuses. The team is dysfunctional and predictable. When razor was in charge, we came back after a loss. This season we are getting WORSE as the season goes on. Don't just look at the end scores, pay attention to how the team is actually playing.
We're not even in a rebuild either, we're stacked with all blacks, the season is fundamentally flawed and people who are too nice don't want to admit what it is.
He’s average coach, poor record.rebuild what? Still had more All Blacks than most teams.he deserves to be let go at end of season.crusader franchise have messed up. Wear it n move on.
I'm sick of the brown nosing fans with their "we go again, always backing this team" BS comments. As crusaders fans, we should DEMAND excellence from this team because of the success. Enough with the injury and people leaving comments, this team is better than 2-10. Rob Penney is clearly delusional and doesn't care about actually winning, if he cared about the team he would resign for the good of the club. His overall super rugby record is something ridiculous like 7-26. The board needs to man up and actually sack him at the end of the season, admit they got it wrong, and bring in someone with a WINNING record who demands only the best for the team.
As a landers fan, I would always have imagined that the Saders have earned a bit of credit in the back pocket with their fans. Possibly being the most successful rugby club in the world, ever. And they had a huge exodus, most of their key players have left. Coaching staff have all left minus two. Had injuries to remaining key players. There's so many moving parts to a performing team, blaming the coach seems odd to me.
Whoever suggested and employed rod Penny are the one's who need sacking
Most people in NZ have the same opinion about journalists, I agree with Rob Penny
As the ACC said, there are heaps of ways RP could have answered which would have stopped that line of questioning and came across as sincere
Yes and no. I thought his response that it was a private thing he wasn't prepared to share with the public was actually a good response and should have ended that line of questioning, the journalist seemed pretty aggressive and I'm not sure what the public interest was after that point. Penney was an idiot for doing what he did after that.
The thing I want to know is, is this down to Penney? Did he do anything between the Tahs and Saders? Because if not that's 2 gigs in a row that have gone *very* badly.
As a Crusaders supporter, irrespective of what some journo says , the results are unacceptable. Like most other Crusaders supporters I think we've been guilty of using words like ' rebuilding ' as some excuse for the results , and that is an extremely un - Crusader like way to think. We're kidding ourselves if we think this seasons results are acceptable , if you do then you have no idea what level of consistency & success is expected from this club. This season doesn't cut it. The coach has to go.
Penney has to go u say,well guess wat he's not going anywhere he reckons 😂he's staying put to rub dirt in deeper he's so bloody arrogant he won't take any blame and by mid season next year your dynasty is gonna be reduced to rubble,Burke leaving,seevu leaving Penney staying on music to non crusader supporters ears 👂 🎶 saders are down and teams ain't gonna let them get up many more seasons like this to come many more
@ManaBlack208 lol , dynasty crumbling. They told us that in 97, then they told us that in 2003 , and again in 2009, and again in 2016......
@@krisiotua223 It's falling to pieces now right infront of your eyes worse season ever worst sader team in history 🤭a record 12th loss coming up this week coach is shit and refuses to go oh boy wat a demise your in denial
@@krisiotua223 Even moana pacifika is above you on the table 🤣if that's not a sign I don't know wat is wat a fall from grace long may it continue and other teams will make sure of it they ain't gonna let u guys get up anytime soon the time is now to destroy the legacy once and for all and we will be successful a decade of demise is on the cards
It’s extremely arrogant when supporters of franchises think they shouldn’t have to endure a losing season or bad season ever. It’s pretty disgusting. Go cry harder.
Did Rob Penny have a good record elsewhere before the Saders job? I seem to remember a 2 Cents video speaking about his very mixed record. Why was he given the reigns of a top team then? I feel this result was inevitable…
This is a very out there opinion but maybe the Saders board realised there is no other coach that will match what Scott Robinson did so they got a very average guy so the next coach who comes in can “fix” the situation and is at least appreciated by the fans.
Start of the season wasn't too sure what to make of Penney. When he was at Munster, he tried to implement a wider and more attacking focussed game. But the best performances from the team during his tenure were when they reverted back to a tight, territorial style. Thought the tahs looked alright during his tenure, but some of that could be down to the players they had (many of whom are now at western force). Wouldn't be optimistic about the last few games or next season, but there has been so much disruption at saders this year it's probably not fair to assume the worst for next year.
Crusaders 2024 coach is a poison chalice thanks to the last 20 years and in recent years the highly successful Robertson era.
Who can top that?
Put Man City coach Guardiola in there and he would struggle as Penney is, understandably.
It's tough, the transition will take time, but the jury is still out on Penney.
I hope he makes it there but I don't think the timing is right for him or the club.
There will be no transition. The puppy mill is ended. Grass roots rugby is in decline. People only care about the All Blacks and even them losing has become acceptable. The South Canterbury rugby team just pulled out of a shield challenge against Hawks Bay for lack of funds. Meanwhile the rugby union is all about diversity and bleeding the pot dry on overseas jaunts etc. I'm loathe to say it but it is over for rugby as we knew it. Nevermind, I had more than fifty years watching the greatest players ever.
As a crusader fan I see what other fanbases see in some of us now lol... im starting to get annoyed with alot of them having a short 7 year goldfish memory, riding on that high and thinking default mode for us is always making the finals. In fact many times we finished the comp rounds outside the top 4... 2016 and 2015 we came 7th, 2001 we came 10th, 97' we were 6th and 96' we were 12th... Always was going to be a hard year and that is just conflated with the largest injury toll ive ever seen a rugby side needed to manage, a tricky draw and that dumb NH preseason tour that he inherited .. Give the coach at least one more season with his first choice players consistantly on the field! FFS we gave BlackAdder 8 years with out a result lol!
Deliberate provocation by the reporter, hiding behind his privilege for the sake of a reaction.
Poor form, and also the news anchors having a chuckle about a 'man under pressure' (The irony, given the focus on mental health these days).
Penny may be a poor coach, but I wouldn't have blamed him if he punched the journalist.
As a retired journo, I back the c-bomber for having asked the hard questions. That's a journo's job. They're not marble-polishers. The Crusaders' stats took a severe knock, surprising fans and foes alike, and the hard questions needed to be asked. The onus was on Rob Penney to either concede "liability" or explain the reasons for the teams' demise, not to like or dislike questions. Cheers from Safferland chaps! 🇿🇦
I thought the questions were pertinent, and that the responses were those of an immature person, not the head coach of a major sports franchise.
If I was the CEO of the Crusaders I would have had Penney on the carpet today for a please explain regarding his responses noy to mention the teams dismal performances so far this season.
Never understood the Penney appointment. Rumours are that Razor backed his appointment as they are old mates. But Penney's record as a coach is deplorable. His stint in Munster and Japan are average at best, and his record with the Tahs was shockingly poor. Penney has left teams in worse condition than when we found them, that is very much his narrative. The Saders have a squad that is much better than their position on the table. Game management and tactical nous are missing, and that sits with the coach. Honestly.....I hope you keep him. A shit Crusaders team makes rugby better!!
Will you do a video on the new rugby World Cup qualification routes for 2027. Asia getting given a direct spot and Canada 3 opportunities
Tvnz not really playing ball by broadcasting it it wasn’t part of the press conference, mic still on is gotcha journalism at its worst not what you expect from our national broadcaster
Yeah that's true - wouldn't blame Penney for not wanting to speak to TVNZ (not sure if he has the power to refuse though)
Really?
Did you seriously expect better ?
@@Mysterx1440 me no, crusaders probably would
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Sounds like sonja mclaughlan on the BBC
Sione Havili Talitui does not play for Crusaders, he has been playing for Moana Pasifika this season.
Oh man you're totally right! So even the back row not stable. I think I'm confusing another double barrell surname in Lio-Willie
Aside from the c bomb, it's clear this is related to coach/tactics. The stats, and my own eyes back it up, show that the cruz are winning enough possession and territory but not creating gaps in opponents defence. The attacking strategy is fundamentally flawed. I get that there's new players, but with the team named recently, that excuse is gone. These players are, imo, good enough.
That all said, while i don't believe the coach is right, i like Penney, and I bet that reporter is a complete
That's good u like him coz he's not going anywhere don't change your mind next year wen the disastrous results continue coz that's wats gonna happen many more seasons like this year to come
Yeah I've had a look at the stats as well aye - in previous years they were always up there, if not first in some categories, still top 3. This season is way different
@@TwoCentsRugby didnt we finish 2015 and 2016 in 7th place??
So you’re saying it’s the attack coaches fault?
I just mean stats like clean breaks, lineouts etc. Crusaders teams in the past are usually in the top few, if not first
There is no problem with the cattle in the Crusaders squad. The individual attacking skills of the players are still there and the scrum is great. The lineout is rubbish. the defence is rubbish. Different captain every week almost! and some of the player selection is bonkers! Rob has to go. and Matt Todd as well. Nothing personal, they are great Canterbury rugby men. But the numbers and the play we see don't lie. But that begs another question? Who's the next coach? The Coach drain from NZR is bigger than the player drain!!
Hmm I don’t know, the media are vile in every country and I think if they’re being disrespectful, then they’re going to get the response they deserve. I don’t like badgering people until they break, which sounds like what happened. There’s a lot that goes into a winning team, the coach is the most important but there’s other factors and it seems they’ve just hit a time when everything is going wrong. Probably he’s not the right coach, but no need to harass him. I hate stuff like this. Sport should make people happy 😊
Looking forward to tomorrow's game - Home vs Blues. Blues have never won in Christchurch, yea? Time for a change
I feel they should keep Penney around, but maybe consider bringing in a skills coach or something to help the team gel.
On another note, I get the sense there's some bts issues in the Crusaders camp, maybe in part being brought on by too much success. Feels like some complacency is at play.
What is the "C-bomb"? Is it the Aussie term of endearment?
Didn’t you say on two cent gets distracted when asked a question about why did the crusaders change logo that after the Christchurch massacre you think a change is right for the crusaders logo should be dropped So it looks like habits die hard with regards the head gear 😢
Crusaders have had a great run and i would give Penny next year to redeem himself but if the results are still poor it will always reflect on his coaching. I agree that there are a lot of young new players in the squad and experienced players missing through injury but the defence has been well below accepted levels. I've seen some of these young players leave holes in the defensive line and run alongside opponents when they should be schooled to drill the opponent ball carrier into the ground asap ! . Penny has also made some strange substitutions during games and apart from a couple of games the gameplan has been poor. This team is lacking in the confidence to impose their gameplan on the opposition and appears indecisive or reactive to what is thrown at them. In any physical contest who hits first and hardest usually wins.
penney was the most ridiculous appointment from such a savey organisation. too good keep him please. when the enemy is fucking up HELP THEM 😂
Part of me thinks he’s under pressure so fair enough, but mostly I think we are trying to make rugby family accessible. Rob definitely failed media training which is a huge part of being a coach.
Tom Curry enters the chat.
😂😂😂 If Tom Curry was offended by something he pretended to hear in the RWC, he better never tour South Africa. The c-word rocks when used appropriately!
It’s a bit of a non-story in my opinion. The reporter knew what he was doing and essentially asked the same question multiple times. He was prodding and seeking a response. Nothing wrong with the way Rob handled it in my opinion.
Rob Penney is a good man. He has lost loads of players. He needs time.
Yeah it was weird the journo didn't ask one question about the player turnover... but yeah I don't think he was a sports journo
He failed dismally with the Waratahs even with decent players.
Mike if your a saders fan your a good man the only gracious fan so far everyone else is calling for his head already so impatient its a rebuilding period obviously and after 7 titles in a row u would think fans would accept a rebuilding year but oh no they want success and they want it now🤦♂️my goodness,that's why I give saders fans shit sooo entitled it's terrible,heads been in the clouds for far too long time to be brought down to earth long may it continue 😉
enough with the brown nosing. He's a terrible super rugby coach, and he needs to go.
@@joshhudson7413 Well guess wat buckle up he's digging his toes in and refuses to go anywhere he loves the team and is determined to stick around 😆 u beauty music to my ears more of the same next year,even if he does go who else is there?give us a name and I bet you want be able too it will only get worse
TV1 journo = zombie.
Boo fucken hoo, the Crusaders won 7 titles in a row, so apart from their fans, who cares if they are having a shit season. Welcome to what it's been like for the rest of us these last 7 seasons hahaha