The cable is not why there called fiber lasers, rather it's the coil of optical fibre inside the machine, that stores the output from multiple diodes, and then realeses it in a pulse (which then travels down the external cable)
The fibre laser frequency is the rate at which it fires light pulses at the target. The speed is the speed at which it moves linearly so if you move fast and the frequency is low, you will see a series of dots. This is also the reason why you can mark metals, there is so much power in that single pulse, much less than 1 microsecond long, that the metal is ablated. Average power might sound low but those pulses are supplying a large fraction of, for example, 1 milli Joule in 100 nanoseconds, the instantaneous power is = energy / time, or 10 kilo Watt.
I designed and built a 200 W version of this thing and it's pretty impressive. Mine will actually cut out metal patterns but it's not an inexpensive idea even if you can design it build one yourself.
@ I might have to do that. It cost around $6000 to build the unit that I did. But if I were to try to purchase one from a manufacturer, it might cost me as much as 50,000.
On their website they state that the non MOPA ones are MAX lasersources, while the MOPA types have JPT sources, they also sell lenses where you can change your working area up to 150mmx150mm or down to 70mmx70mm
Was looking into a powerful laser system for etching Yeti bottles, engravings, coins (with heavy relief), cutting metal etc for SIGNS and making metal signs etched… Any recommendations on gear?? We are looking around a 10-20k price budget. And looking for all the accessories that I would need for doing all that… i was looking at fiber lasers from these companies around 80-100watt... any thoughts on them?? CLOUDRAY, OMTECH LASER, AEON LASERS, EPILOG LASERS, and MONPORT Lasers.
Hi, very useful and informative 👍. Can you tell me how much material is removed during the process? I’m thinking of brass, could it be used to create a wood brand, perhaps with multiple/many passes.
Great question, I don't think something at this power could give you a deep enough engrave to make a stamp. typically thats going to need a CNC router to get deeper in metal.
@@makeorbreakshop hi, thanks for getting back to. I’ve been considering a cnc but was thinking the laser could give a finer resolution for smaller brands.
Nice Video! Take care, laser is addiction! I got two fiber marking machines; a 50W to normal marking and medium deep marking, and a 100W to deep making and cutting .
In these videos on different machines you barely show the actual results of any engraving. No comparisons to other machines output, no closeups, dim and blurry shots, no common objects like a pencil or ruler next to the engraving for scale, no side by side comparisons to commercial products with engraving, no comparisons to the same engraving printed with a office laser printer. The manufacturers web sites also don't generally show anything with any detail. I can only conclude these non-industrial laser engraving machines in general don't do a good job. I think anybody shopping for any laser engraver should see results in person with the products they want to engrave.
I just bought the xTool F1 because I want to engrave stainless steel and brass. Does that mean I can do neither with it and need a fiber laser instead?
When test’s / reviews are done and not shown in a long enough shot to have a better look at them there are only 3 reasons for it I can think of: 1) the producer does not know a thing about reviews should look like and what information are needed for the audience to get enough information to come to their own conclusion or 2) the test did not turn out great 3) it is not a review but a paid presentation of the unit (aka advertisement) and the host has been restricted in what can be shown and said with the aim not to harm the product
Usually I try to keep things pretty fast to not waste people's time. Metal engravings are a little unique because things like stainless and sometimes aluminum are pretty hard to show on camera because of the reflections. This wasn't a paid presentation, I mentioned that at the beginning. I appreciate the feedback though
@@makeorbreakshop Thank for your reply. If it can’t be shown on camera would a picture added during editing the video show it better? Then nanosecond that you presented them in the video caused my suspicion.
Hi, we have been following your UA-cam channel and are impressed by your professionalism and creativity. We really enjoyed your unboxing video. NymoLabs is a new CNC brand and we hope to establish a cooperative relationship with you. Our channel has information about our machines. We hope to communicate with you further.
I am sure there's a word for that very 2020 thing vloggers do where you signal the end of the video by blocking the lens with your hand. Now, the question is not what that word is, but can anyone please tell me when it will frikkin die out? Please find the place "hold my beer!" went to lie down and die. It was jarring the first time it happened and now, years later still is. And nah, it was never cool. Anyhow, thanks for the video.
it's a different use case, i wouldn't get a machine like this if you are looking to cut, but if you need to mark on items and do a bunch of them this is going to do amazing.
Wrong application. MOPA is a marker. Not a cutter. Fiber laser cutter will set you back $50K to start. CO2 cannot engrave anywhere fast as MOPA laser marker/engraving. Though engraving and marking space becomes limited with these desktop marker.
The cable is not why there called fiber lasers, rather it's the coil of optical fibre inside the machine, that stores the output from multiple diodes, and then realeses it in a pulse (which then travels down the external cable)
The fibre laser frequency is the rate at which it fires light pulses at the target. The speed is the speed at which it moves linearly so if you move fast and the frequency is low, you will see a series of dots. This is also the reason why you can mark metals, there is so much power in that single pulse, much less than 1 microsecond long, that the metal is ablated. Average power might sound low but those pulses are supplying a large fraction of, for example, 1 milli Joule in 100 nanoseconds, the instantaneous power is = energy / time, or 10 kilo Watt.
Great post thank you. That was helpful to read.
I designed and built a 200 W version of this thing and it's pretty impressive. Mine will actually cut out metal patterns but it's not an inexpensive idea even if you can design it build one yourself.
U should make a video on how to build one 😃
@ I might have to do that. It cost around $6000 to build the unit that I did. But if I were to try to purchase one from a manufacturer, it might cost me as much as 50,000.
On their website they state that the non MOPA ones are MAX lasersources, while the MOPA types have JPT sources, they also sell lenses where you can change your working area up to 150mmx150mm or down to 70mmx70mm
I must have missed the MAX lasersource, I know the MOPA is JPT which is great but didn't find info on this one.
@@makeorbreakshop it is shown in the comparison tables when you scroll down on the models pages.
Was looking into a powerful laser system for etching Yeti bottles, engravings, coins (with heavy relief), cutting metal etc for SIGNS and making metal signs etched…
Any recommendations on gear?? We are looking around a 10-20k price budget. And looking for all the accessories that I would need for doing all that… i was looking at fiber lasers from these companies around 80-100watt... any thoughts on them?? CLOUDRAY, OMTECH LASER, AEON LASERS, EPILOG LASERS, and MONPORT Lasers.
Does this laser produce fumes? Are there any issues with running it indoors? Thanks for the great videos.
Yes, it produces fumes and smoke.
FYI: you can etch stainless with metal marking spray ( we do it at work every day ) on an CO2 machine. But the cans we buy run almost $100 each.
I have been able to laser directly onto stainless steel with my blue diode laser. However it won't engrave or mark on any other type of metal.
Maybe I’m just not seeing it but do you have a video talking about the differences between a fiber and a UV?
Hi, very useful and informative 👍. Can you tell me how much material is removed during the process? I’m thinking of brass, could it be used to create a wood brand, perhaps with multiple/many passes.
Great question, I don't think something at this power could give you a deep enough engrave to make a stamp. typically thats going to need a CNC router to get deeper in metal.
@@makeorbreakshop hi, thanks for getting back to. I’ve been considering a cnc but was thinking the laser could give a finer resolution for smaller brands.
Hi, this is a stamp made by our 20w laser: ua-cam.com/video/FjSzv3a3BEU/v-deo.html Hope this helps you. :)
Nice Video! Take care, laser is addiction! I got two fiber marking machines; a 50W to normal marking and medium deep marking, and a 100W to deep making and cutting .
In these videos on different machines you barely show the actual results of any engraving. No comparisons to other machines output, no closeups, dim and blurry shots, no common objects like a pencil or ruler next to the engraving for scale, no side by side comparisons to commercial products with engraving, no comparisons to the same engraving printed with a office laser printer. The manufacturers web sites also don't generally show anything with any detail. I can only conclude these non-industrial laser engraving machines in general don't do a good job. I think anybody shopping for any laser engraver should see results in person with the products they want to engrave.
What is the best laser machine for cutting metal like silver, stainless steel and gold. Just want make name tags like neckless. Please advise.
I just bought the xTool F1 because I want to engrave stainless steel and brass. Does that mean I can do neither with it and need a fiber laser instead?
I'm getting one for my new shop!
Hello, do you need a laser marking machine? Our company specializes in this type of product. If you need it, you can reply to me. Thank you.
You said 8000mm/sec for both, what did you actually mean? 8000mm/sec and 8000mm/min?
Whats a millimeter?
Smaller than a cinnameter
Great work!
The only thing that has prevented me so far from getting one is the price...
Do you know Any fiber machine that has a price around $1000?
When test’s / reviews are done and not shown in a long enough shot to have a better look at them there are only 3 reasons for it I can think of:
1) the producer does not know a thing about reviews should look like and what information are needed for the audience to get enough information to come to their own conclusion or
2) the test did not turn out great
3) it is not a review but a paid presentation of the unit (aka advertisement) and the host has been restricted in what can be shown and said with the aim not to harm the product
Usually I try to keep things pretty fast to not waste people's time. Metal engravings are a little unique because things like stainless and sometimes aluminum are pretty hard to show on camera because of the reflections.
This wasn't a paid presentation, I mentioned that at the beginning.
I appreciate the feedback though
@@makeorbreakshop Thank for your reply. If it can’t be shown on camera would a picture added during editing the video show it better? Then nanosecond that you presented them in the video caused my suspicion.
I saw you hit Start in this video and not once did I see you with laser safety glasses on.
yeh good catch. I should have been wearing them and will mention the safety aspect next time.
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Hi, we have been following your UA-cam channel and are impressed by your professionalism and creativity. We really enjoyed your unboxing video. NymoLabs is a new CNC brand and we hope to establish a cooperative relationship with you. Our channel has information about our machines. We hope to communicate with you further.
I am sure there's a word for that very 2020 thing vloggers do where you signal the end of the video by blocking the lens with your hand. Now, the question is not what that word is, but can anyone please tell me when it will frikkin die out? Please find the place "hold my beer!" went to lie down and die.
It was jarring the first time it happened and now, years later still is. And nah, it was never cool.
Anyhow, thanks for the video.
😂😂😂maybe değil vaybee
1800 dollar laser that wont cut materials. im good
it's a different use case, i wouldn't get a machine like this if you are looking to cut, but if you need to mark on items and do a bunch of them this is going to do amazing.
Wrong application. MOPA is a marker. Not a cutter. Fiber laser cutter will set you back $50K to start. CO2 cannot engrave anywhere fast as MOPA laser marker/engraving. Though engraving and marking space becomes limited with these desktop marker.
They aren't meant to cut. And often they are actually called marking lasers. So, there's that.
unrelevant video