My Final Thoughts on Plants vs. Zombies 3
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Continuing the soft launch for Plants vs. Zombies 3 and going insane. I share my closing thoughts at the end. This video includes level 110 to 150.
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0:00 - Level 110
7:39 - Vasebreaker
8:12 - Level 111
9:25 - Level 112
12:00 - Level 113
12:48 - Level 114
17:32 - Level 115
20:16 - Vasebreaker 2
20:34 - Level 116
23:10 - Vasebreaker 3
23:27 - Level 116
27:24 - Level 117
30:54 - Level 118
36:21 - Level 119
39:34 - Level 120
40:56 - Vasebreaker 4
41:32 - Level 120
43:16 - Level 121
46:19 - Level 122
47:28 - Level 123
49:24 - Level 124
51:41 - Level 125
54:58 - Level 126
57:47 - Level 127
1:02:03 - Level 128
1:03:21 - Level 129
1:06:35 - Level 130
1:08:02 - Level 131
1:09:32 - Level 132
1:11:52 - Level 133
1:13:22 - Level 134
1:16:29 - Level 135
1:23:19 - Level 136
1:25:05 - Level 137
1:30:14 - Level 138
1:31:20 - Level 139
1:32:14 - Level 140
1:35:37 - Level 141
1:38:39 - Level 142
1:40:05 - Level 143
1:45:00 - Level 144
1:46:58 - Level 145
1:48:33 - Vasebreaker 5
1:48:47 - Level 145
1:53:21 - Level 146
1:56:59 - Level 147
1:57:50 - The best level ever made
1:58:09 - Level 147
2:01:15 - Level 148
2:03:49 - Level 149
2:07:07 - Level 150
2:13:12 - My Closing Thoughts - Ігри
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This may sound controversial, but I don't think PvZ3 was a COMPLETE failure. It was very successful at making the other PvZ games look more appealing! (yes even bfn)
whats wrong with bfn
@@chosenoneyesOverall just an inferior gw game (no spinoff bs it uses gw mechanics, characters, ideas, and even called gw3 internally) that somehow butchers the mechanics at their core while also providing less variety than gw1.
Look at ops for example. Half the defender spawnables dont even work most of the time, the game is so easy you half to be asleep to lose, less enemies than gw1 as there's no vampires, backup dancer, and so on.
Lack of variants severly harmed the replayability and no upgrades were gonna fix that. Some of the upgrades are even just old variant/alt ability effects.
The game's maps also arent very good. Go play driftwood shores and then play tourist trap island and tell which map allows more freedom and flanking routes.
@@superbrainz2357 also controversial take, their campaign is worse than gw2’s campaign, also can’t bring friends on to those campaign islands (atleast last time I played)
@@greenpotato8744I didnt mind some of the boss fights and I appreciate the missions not having reskinned ops.
The issue is that the areas are so repetitive. After weirding woods came out I genuinely didnt have the desire to play the other 2 when they came out.
None of them really had any standout missions in remember that much either. I still remember the buildup to the boss hunts with captain smasher and hypno flower. The Butterhawk mission was also pretty memorable.
We also got infinity time for completing it which gave a reason to play through all of it. Before the packs this was also the only way to get the party characters.
Bfn doesnt really have anything like that.
I see you everywhere saying bfn is bad, and I'm here to give some points of why bfn is actually decent.
1. If ur a pc player, Bfn is your only solic choice,I think Bfn is the only Gw game that does not have a server dead(gw2 Asian, Gw1 as a whole are dead).
2. It's definitely more appealing to newbies, I found gw2 frustrating when I played it 3 years ago(yeah i played bfn firest), those two game are just so different, and in many scenario, different desn't mean worse.
3. Cosume. Need I explain? Reward-o-tron is just a better stickershop in any way. It gives you less bullshit.
4. Overall game conversation. The existence of text bubbles just singlehandedly changed bfn into a social game.
The difficulty ramp up in PvZ3 feels like the devs just looked at the endless mode in PvZ2 and said, "What if this had a story mode?"
Yeah it feels like that lol
Woah, I didn't expect to get a Flag Zombie voice jumpscare at 2:13:12
In PvZ2, the powerups were a balanced solution due to being able to choose your seed slots. If you come into a level unprepared, they're an option to help you out in a pinch. They were always an option and not as reliant because every level was manageable in some way without them.
Here, I don't think PopCap even tested their levels. Because all your plants are pre-chosen, that would mean every level can be beatable with the right strategy, right? The difficulty scaling is atrocious, where winning without powerups is either due to RNG dependent zombie spawns or losing a level over and over to lower the difficulty. You're heavily forced to use the powerups or else you have to suffer replaying these levels again and again. It's not fun, and leans even more to their greedy micro-transaction model to purchase more powerups.
yea from what i've seen so far from pvz3 level designs, seems like they made levels with the expectation of their players using at least 1 powerups each level. they really want their players to use those consumables so they can either sell more or make their players stop finishing their games in 1 sitting
@@hasbinurrahim3280Look how many zombies are in one lane at a time. Its basically screaming at you to use jalapeno since both peashooters take way too many shots to down a single zombie.
Heck most of these levels are carried by bonk choy damage wise.
I think we can all agree that these level should be 100% possible without power ups.
"possible"? technically yea since they have that dynamic difficulty, but you know it won't be fun especially coupled with the notorious stamina system
What’s the point of a stamina system anyway? It does nothing other than annoy the player that they can only lose so many times before having to wait to try again. Or to skip this long waiting time you could…you know…
half of the level design in this game forces you to use power ups or lose lives to turn down the dynamic difficulty
And then there's Level 116.....
The pain and suffering is finally over. Good job Flag, and thank you for saving our sanity.
Sun shroom with another chunk of levels:
PAIN AND SUFFERING.
PAIN AND SUFFERING.
I think this game is great, the devs clearly put a lot of time and efforts into making this game. As a long time fan, I can see that the devs have keep all the things that make the prequels fun and interesting to play. This game is packed with variety and originality. There is just so much to love about this game. In my opinion, this is the best Homescapes game so far.
Underrated fucking comment, I too believe this is the best installment in the Homescapes series
bro got us in the first half ngl
So true. This is absolutely peak homescapes. Now I wonder how they'll continue their hit franchise Plants vs Zombies, surely they'll do it justice!
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Wdym?
Facts
@@ydrusmaulanamalik WDYWFM?
Popcap, of all people. What makes them think that PvZ, a slow tower defense strategy game, would work well as a quick paced “puzzle” game? This isn’t some mobile puzzle game! It’s an experience of tower defense that takes on a new level of strategy that separates it from other games! Why is it here trying to unsuccessfully copy mobile games that are worse than the original concept of PvZ? Why strafe the formula away from what it worked with? A simple pinch of a penny? Even Popcap isn’t that greedy, right? I hope not. The hands that hold PvZ must be in some state of an identity crisis. This should not be as bad as it is. Plants vs Zombies became so successful. Where, when, why, what, and how, did it all go so wrong?
Because of EA and PopCap greed.
@@victorio2005 EA isn't the one who is developing but fired one of the great devs
Pvz 2 did the faster pace pretty well in the harder worlds tbh
The thing is, these levels are thrown together in an EXTREMELY brain-dead way. A lack of plant selection removes lots of simple synergy, (or making levels harder, such as swarms of pidgeons when the lightning reeds are gone), many great gamemodes are gone, such as the Pre-planting "Plan your defense" levels. All of these downsides negate practically everything good, if not decent, such as the interesting art style, mediocre sun rework, and silly comic character cameos. Imo, I think this game just needs to have plant selection, plus more plants to boot that up. This isn't even a "I'm bored, I'll just play this game," type thing. There are MANY other quick games, including the FIRST TWO pvz games that are much better, and more enjoyable time-burners.
"Plan your defense" levels called Last Stand. No thanks.
13:37 "WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?!"
Game: Become braindead and use the power ups that you can buy with ur real life money DUH!
nice leet timestamp
@@robertlupa8273omg I didn’t even notice that
13:47**
Cannot believe it they made it into a homescape game
The fact that you can feel flag zombies anger is frightening to me
epic voice section I watched all that just to hear "Hi! Yeah I exist" and explode out my chair
“Skill? What skill?! The only skill you need to is the ability to pull out your credit card!” -Popcap (most likely)
Or your parent's
EA*
@@marcscratch33No, no its popcap
They really did take PVZ, take away everything that made it good, and then left a shell to try and make a few dollars off of. If they were to make it any less appealing, they’d have to make you pay to open the app, and have it crash regularly
20:34 The song used here comes from a level in pizza tower whose name perfectly describes this level.
Glad someone caught that.
We love tubular trash zone
@@therealno_one*_Oh shit!_*
Yep, fits well.
12:00 LUIGI'S MANSION DARK MOON MUSIC, HELL YEAAAH!!!!!!!!
2:13:13 the whiplash I got after hearing your voice, like wow you're an actual human being with a voice lol
1:43:20 an interesting thing about the slope mechanic is that imps’ hitbox is actually shorter than other zombies
Ateast somthin makes sense.
The only interesting part of pvz3 is that Mo canonically killed baby plants
indeed, this makes him the second most relatable character in the game (behind tugboat)
Truly an anakin/william afton moment
And wants to BBQ the family pet. Mo is unironically evil
Purple mo
48:57 Tugboat is the only reason to play this trainwreck of a game
Not good enough reason for me to play this steaming pile of 💩
Tugboat is the best character in anything ever. No question about it.
@@Somerandomperson-hl1kt please explain the hype about him? I just genuinely don't get it
There is no reason to play this game
@@steponkusceponas4085meme character that makes people laugh I guess
I feel like they could’ve easily included some kind of mystery by introducing the Gnomes. Only Garden Warfare 2 really uses them, so maybe have it so while the regular game of stopping Zomboss from becoming Mayor is going on, you’re getting hints and scraps of gnomes behind the scenes who are up to something.
Ive been playing a mobile game named the battle cats, and if grapes were like the cat cannon they would be much more useful
Rare battle cat player sighting
Imagine if battle cats levels force you to use cat god's power to beat them lol.
@@thenohacksandmoneyspending2210the funny thing about this is that you can only use the cat god's power for like 8% of the game if not less and the rest is just actual strategy
@@TheStarlingGuy Cat God is straight-up banned in every level difficult enough to warrant him tbh
@@RainMarrlen I mean I know this hence the "8% of the game if not less". You can only use Cat God in the main story chapters anyway (besides CotC Big Bang and Aku realms albeit its more so a bonus chapter).
honestly, i like the idea they had with the cut scenes, and at least it *is* a new zombie and not just another pre-existing zombie
The peashooter and snow pea ttk is so bad.
They literally can't reliably deal with more than one zombie at a time and since this game is just throwing zombies at them they get overwhelmed so easily.
I went back to pvz 1 and a peashooter can defeat a basic before it even reaches the third tile and a conehead with enough space.
Remember when snow pea was an upgrade that cost more respectively and had weaknesses to torchwood who could buff regular peashooter to close the gap and you had to plan around that?
Or how repeater was introduced early on to help your arsenal deal with the coneheads and bucketheads easier?
46:54 The bar is in hell
If you guys also didn’t know, Fred the sunflower is also from the comics. Like Patrice, twister, and tugboat! Also great vid flag.
44:55 that's because the gameplay is not connected to the overworld story, you can just play the game and make it to the end without progressing the story at all by not spending the tickets so if the story connected it would cause a problem, that's why people comparing it with gardenscapes where the gameplay mode is just there so you can get the consumeable to progress the story as if the game mode and the overworld story is a two different games, at least in gardenscapes it's more understandable because the gameplay moment is just connect 3 game and is fine to have no story at all to begin with
Well that's just lazy
tbh they need to reset.. dont come at me like "oh they will fix this" they wont.. the only way that this game will made some decent buck is if they reset again this simply wont bring players in the moment they relize its a cash grab game
Dang 2 whole bloody hours to binge, love it
Gotta say, I have never been more motivated to make my own PVZ fan game, hopefully I can just learn some coding
I wish you the best of luck.
1:48:50 Gotham “FUN”land, PvZ3’s clownery is joker approved.
80 new levels with 1 plant and 1 zombie. This is going to be an infinite game with a "story" that will keep going and going. At this pace, they can go for like 5000 levels no problem.
Unreal that they make you suffer night levels like that with little to no help, really trying to entice power ups, which Sucks.
Also you hurt my soul in several different ways when you said Umbrella Leaf is forgettable, but even though it is my favorite, I still agree with that statement :(
18:39 What has this game done to you??
NOOOOOOO!!!
Turned him clinically insane
90% of this game van be featured in Terrible level design series
9:28 Wrong analogy. Playing PvZ 1 Night levels without Puff-shroom is not fun.
1:06:58 First, because Umbrella Leaf didn't appear in PvZ since very first game. Second, because fans like to be nostalgia bated. Also, I like that Umbrella Leaf has 5 petals on seed packet, but only 3 when planted, and I like how it retains all petals back when knocking bowling ball/Swashbuckler back to lose it after doing that.
2:00:01 I like how Tugboat just teleport. Totally canon ability of his.
The first one doesn't make sense, isn't that what he said?
@@-io.oi- He said playing PvZ 1 Night levels with Sunflower is no fun (which is not so true). Then he adds the fact Puff-shroom doesn't exist in PvZ 3, which makes situation even worse.
Sorry, I misunderstood the captions somehow
Wait, isn't Umbrella Leaf does make their return at PvZ Heroes?
Alternate title: Horrible level design deluxe edition.
Okay, but real talk. Thank you so much for suffering through this complete s@$@ show for our entertainment while also trying to avoid using powers and boosts the entire time. It takes a lot of commitment and dedication to pull something like this off, so thanks for suffering through this to bring to light the issues this game has in a professional and entertaining manner. :D
Popcap saw Flags Horrible Level Design videos and saw those levels as competition.
Thank you Flag Zombie for alot.
lvl 116 is peak comedy
PVZ3 In summary: WHAT GOOSE CODED THIS GAME?!?! How can this even be named after PVZ and PVZ2 with such horrid level scaling and non-existent level design while somehow combining and amplifying the worst parts of it's predecessors and ADDING to them. The progression of the game is also just not there at all, no being able to pick your plants, no being able to see the lawn or zombies before starting and no real location gimmicks so everything is everywhere all at once and i hate it. Plants feel incredibly expensive for absolutely pathetic damage and i hate it. Plants can't really be used as blockers due to being fragile and i hate it. Ugh... don't even get me started on how many levels it takes to introduce things compared to the other games, like... just don't... screw this game
Also greeeat input on the night gameplay!
Paltns vs zbomeis :D
Can you take your time and spell properly?
real!!!
Can you make a part two that explains this in more detail? I feel as if some things were just randomly brought up then immediately forgotten. Thanks.
I tried giving this game a chance, but I gave up on level 116, top tier game design
Can't blame you. It doesn't look fun.
I like how everyone can agree, that level 116 can burn in hell.
13:46
Make you lose so you get annoyed and use power ups, which are eventually gonna run out so you have to spend money on more!
they teased landscaper and a forest-y area and they haven't delivered on it yet
i feel like popcap does not have the best work conditions
2:16:43 they have seedium plants that you can unlock with seed packets
I Can't deny that i really like umbrella leaf,although,it ins't *THAT* Powerful
But something good to remind,its that,on an trailer,or The Trailer,we did have seen bungee jump zombies
1:22 Tangle Kelp always goes for the zombie in its tile with the highest hp
I'm gonna make a prediction here, if/when Tall-nut gets added, they're gonna bring back Pole Vaulting Zombie too
This game is harder than pvz brutal ex. The fact that pvz 3 is not even a fan game 💀
This shows that fans are more loyal to the game than the creators and also the pfp is a great game but sadly it just went downhill after the lag and unbalanced gameplay idk why was rach even thinking to make these slashers
26:18 Mo vs Zombies (The plants don't do anything)
- The game
Are you going to go back to PvZ Heroes and more Decks? You haven't done one in a while.
level 116 is crazier than the previous level 85, imagine only providing 5 sunflowers on the field, no sunflower seeds at night and plus there are bowling zombies. You're crazy Popcap, why did they think of making level 116 like that?🤦
Honestly I *think* they could add something to revolve around the Lock and Load thing, like they could add special plants that you could choose at the beginning to add it to the other locked ones, like Galting Pea, Twin Sunflower, Melon-Pult or Pea Pod ? That could increase the strategy value but they had to take more effort balancing these plants so that there isn't a single meta.
Apparently, they are going to add plantern and hypno shroom to the game, what are your thoughts on that?
Plantern will probably be an EXTREMELY situational gimmick like Umbrella Leaf
Hypno Shroom meanwhile, if the cost or recharge aren't screwed up - it would make for a decent insta to pick off a Zombie and maybe ones behind it
Plantern was just added (as was Disco) and you can feel the nostalgia pandering seep through the game
Tugboat singlehandedly carries the whole game ngl
But its still not enough
An indicator for the music that's always there when doing non ingame music would be nice
What do you mean, I always show what music is playing at the start of the songs.
@@flagzombie Yeah, but it would be nice not to have to go back to find the music name
My favorite mechanic of this game is the concept of one lawnmower, I feel like it really puts a new layer of strategy rather than using lawnmowers to either completely make the last wave irrelevant or stall the early game. Otherwise, game suuuuucks
is it just me or does umbrella leaf double the volume of bowling balls when it blocks them?
I think ducky zombies should be able to resist water surges if they would hurt the zombie, and puddles on dirt should make mud which slow down zombies like water
I'm honestly surprised they didn't make mo a powerup
Don't give them ideas.
1:01:44 lmao not the imp casually reduced to atom
brainstorming time: we need a new name for Sunflower meat shields because they aren't made of meat
my suggestion: Leaf-nut
22:11 default Eclise Alpha newbie experience
I believe that 116 is the dev powerup check. It's the game checking if you are using power ups because if you are not then your going to suffer. The fact that you had to beg for rng to go your way shows that this level demands you to use power ups. It's power ups or RNG in 116. I can tell you were giving it your all on every try of 116 and that you always died on the last wave because it was the final push of going over board on being able to handle with what you are given for plants.
No other game is such an example of "Schizophrenic Difficulty" as this one
Some levels have like 4 zombies in total, while others mimick PvZ's Survival Endless at flags 30-50
How to fix the game:
Remove the story.
Remove the non-sensicle "build your picnic area" shit.
Allow us to pick our plants.
Bring plant food ba-
JUST MAKE IT LIKE PVZ2, make it PVZ1 but more!
...
Then again, by PvZ2, I mean more like Reflourished. I couldn't bear to play the original PvZ2 with its microtransactions.
2:16:31 if you count it as it was in old pvz3, pvz3 has NO new plants :P
My opinion on this game is :
New pop cap screwed UP , they dont have the charm of the old one and turned this game into a frustrating garden scape like game with unfair level and not much to do so yeah , thats not pvz 3 , thats just a ripoff
Do you know that there is update that add more levels?
Flag zombie you have such a pretty voice!
Tugboat is the best part of the game.
Dude you gotta make a video about plant upgrades
Do you think old pvz3 was better than this version? Because I think it is
It definetly had more interesting ideas: taco time, 2 tile tree plants, support plants in general like lemon aid, and far more new zombies and plants.
It still wasn't a good game but in comparison to now it had ideas that couldve gone somewhere in another game that pvz 3 now refuses to be.
PVZ3 be like: Oops, all Locked & Loaded levels!
You know how bad levels are when flag zombie doesnt care about simetry
so uh i found a misconception with umbrella leaf
it has a flower that loses a petal each time it bounces a bowling ball or swinging zombie, and i noticed when it had none left and it bounced another bowling ball it died
wait nevermind im just stupid there was a swinging zombie that landed on it and the bowli g ball hit it at the same time
Level 140 is like the most normal level I have seen in the entire game
12:00 this level could be perfectly a last stand level.
It got butchered I remembered last stand wasn't this simple and easy
What i noticed is the fact that PVZ3 devs downgraded Umbrella Leaf *twice* , first they made it's ability limited, then lowered the overall usage from 5 to 3, as seen at the seed packet.
They really did Umbrella Leaf dirty.
So I'm the new update they added sunshroom which is the most broken plant, it gives 1 sun just like sunflower and it only costs 1 sun and it also upgrades very quickly to produce 2 sun and you know that every level with it is insanely easy
Nice
Two smaller nitpicks since everyone else pointed out the standout bad stuff. I don't like how the zombies are placed on the lawn. They look like they are floating and sometimes that makes It harder to understand on which lane they are. Gargantuars suffer from this problem a lot worse than the others.
Second problem (and this May be a problem I have with the comics as well, but I haven't read them) is Crazy Dave. He's such a boring character here. His craziness reduced to: he uses weird words and is kind of eccentric
why does Umbrella Leaf have a mouth and why does it overlap everything???
Whatever you say bout the game, cabbqge pult 101% carried🔥🔥🔥
I sure love fighting the exact some basic zombies and using eight plants for 200 levels straight. Great job ditching the original 3d version with around 50 plants and plantfood when people critiqued the art style Popcap. Clearly the gameplay was what was the problem. Who needs content anyways
It's even above memory lane hard mode level 9?
Popcap forgot the main draw of the pvz games was choosing your plants. There so much stuff in this game (like the gardenscapes aspect) that would have fit perfectly if you got to choose your plants. Each choice giving you a different plant.
However they decided to make it essentially a more complicated match 3 game that wants to steal your money by making impossibly hard levels that require multilple attempts or time, and deliberately neutering your defense by only giving you one mower. This move might have single handedly killed the franchise.
Honestly, you deserve this $2 for surviving this game! also great content 10/10 channel
It sure was starting to get exhausting, especially those levels that took over 10 tries. Thank you so much for the support, I really appreciate it :)
Can you do update levels at some point
new coumminty manager : GET BACK TO WORK GET BACK TO WORK I SAID YOU COULDN'T STOP WORKING HAHAHAH GET BACK TO WORK!
1:52:50 I don't even know how to describe this...
Umbrella leaf isn't that forgettable, people still use it in endless mode
the first pvz3 beta: bad looking, new plants, new zombies, kid game (so easy), bad 3d style art.
the lastest pvz 3 ver: fine looking, 1 NEW PLANT, 2 new zombies, demon level and easy level only (unbalanced), alright 2d style art, power up is insta-plant instead normal power like pvz 2, YOU CAN'T CHOOSE YOUR PLANT!
my opinion: 6/10 for the first beta one (have choose the plant and new stuff)
2/10 for the lastest ver one (power up is insta meaning those plant will not exist during complete level, can't choose the plants but art is not bad)
(anyone agree?)
Demo phase was actually kinda good since it was made after the release of modern day the artstyle of the zombies kinda nails it same with the plants but the artist left the game they were focusing on a new pvz game that EA decides to cancelled over a star wars game and just cancel it too ea sucks
Umbrella Leaf icon shows 5 petals but the plant only has 3…. I wonder if it used to have 6 total uses but it got nerfed