Very interesting features with this fairly recent module. One captivating news is the "Temp" monitoring and actuating possibility. To my humble opinion, this board has been designed with an array of uses to fit modern electronics and in particular, computer based devices. For instance, the Temp connector would be very useful and allows laptops' batteries to be refurbished with safe charge controller including Thermistor sensor. I think hobbyists will find it rewarding as a device that allows versatility and innovation.
Just thinking out loud: The fact that it uses the older miniUSB socket would indicate to me that rather than being new, this board is as old as the older TP4056 module. The one without the output pads used miniUSB. I suspect this might be a dumping of an obsolete board that was specifically designed to do what a particular client needed. Perhaps it was for a product line that just didn't make it. Or it was for a specific industry, and we never saw it. Also, the quality of the push button switches is better than expected, which contributes to that last assumption. Might have been part of some obsolete portable computing device. The negative voltage may be, as another user mentioned, for op-amps. Perhaps the device it was meant for had audio circuitry as well. A portable audio calibration device? Anyway, I am not convinced that it is a "new" product. Cheers from Canada!
Thats actually what I am looking for - except the minus voltage part. The 3.3v is usefull to run for example an NodeMCU or ESP8266 or something like that on Battery. Then you can use it directly on the 3.3v pin instead of the VIN Pin which consumes current. Depends on how good the linear voltage regulator is on that device. The minus voltage can be usefull for example for LCD-Displays as there are displays outside which need a minus voltage for the V0 Pin - the contrast adjust pin. That little guy is a bit too fancy - I found the schematics of that other board you where shoing and added an AP2112 to the output to drop the output voltage from 4,2 (if fully charged) to always 3.3v with a current draw of only 50uA which makes it suitable for long-life battery usage on low power devices like the NodeMCU in sleep-mode. At least... thats my 50 cents to it, I am just guessing :)
The 5v feeds might be able to power some of those cheap digital voltmeters seen on the Bay of E. Might be a great addition to a board project as it will give an indication when the charge will be done. Some need at least 4 volts to run. Look for "Mini DC 0-100V Voltmeter 0.56" LED Display Digital Panel Volt Meter Gauge" Beware which one you choose, some start reading at 4.5v
nice furtures. handy ekstra funktions usable when flashing chips and other elektrick works. the full mA range ? great to have. arduino and so very limited on mA output
If it doesn't have some kind of boost circuitry, it's just the input voltage. They just threw all kind of (unnecessary) "options" onto the board so it could be sold for higher price. If it had booster to 5V, then it would be useful for 5V Arduino and other 5V stuff. Now it can be used only with 3.3V Arduino (although I wonder it can keep 3.3V when battery is half-way full or less), but why bother?
I want to power this with a couple of small solar cells and charge a 18650 battery to use with an ESP8266 based weather station which uses 3.3v, so i think it's a neat little device and exactly what i need. However he's not selling to my location 😡 I am assuming/hoping that 3.3 voltage regulator would work only from the battery as well when it's not being charged since this is not shown on the video. Also, i think the temperature input pin is neat and i would like to test it with an NTC thermistor attaching next to the 18650. I think that temp pin would be useful in extreme temperatures since my project is for a weather station which will be working sometimes in very hot days and sometimes under bad winter conditions. I would actually appreciate any comments on this.
I designed a new module TP4056ADV-FLEX based on the TP4056 which has a 5V USB input as well as a screw terminal and DC-Jack inputs for 7-25V input from various sources, like a router power pack for example. It allows to select various charge current settings via jumpers (60mA-1A) and gives output straight from the battery (with protection) but also 4-25V via a booster chip (200mA-700mA depending on voltage). if anyone is interested, let me know.......
hey buddy, great vid, I have a question, I'm gonna charge a a tablet battery, just the battery alone with the tmodule, my source of energy will be a solar cell, 6v 300mah, my question to you or if anyone would be kind to help me, how long can the tmodule and the battery stay unattended after being fully charged?
+THE LEGEND 27 Generally you can't. The negative is common from input to output. When you connect a USB power supply to each module you can cause a short.
If you mean AA and AAA as the normal 1.2 volt battery types, then NO, you cannot use this. But, the ONLY exception is if you meant a 3.7 volt lithium-ion cell that has the size and shape of an AA battery. If you're not sure what I mean, then the overall answer is NO. Do not use a TP4056 for anything other than a 3.7 volt Li-Ion cell. (Note: 4.2 volts is the charging voltage for 3.7 volt Li-Ion batteries, as stated by Adam, above)
+DerpyDoom I hope I'm not copying. I'm a massive fan of his channels and have certainly used them as inspiration, but I'm trying very hard to look at different things. The pen knife was a gift and helps me ensure people don't copy my videos (which has happened). If I'd have written my name on my bench I could be accused of copying Big Clive! Julian has been very kind to my little channel. I hope he's let me know if he saw a problem. Thanks for your comment.
Just so You know, even if copied, I don't care. Both of You do awesome videos. That's why I am a subscriber of You and Julien, and not to forget Big Clive :)
+Gustavo Severo The TP4056 IC itself can only take up to 6v on its input. Modules could be made with a buck regulator to drop the voltage down for the TP5056 but it might not be mass market. TP5000 modules generally claim up to 9v on the input. So I think you'll need to drop the voltage first, then use a dedicated charging IC.
hey buddy, great vid, I have a question, I'm gonna charge a a tablet battery, just the battery alone with the tmodule, my source of energy will be a solar cell, 6v 300mah, my question to you or if anyone would be kind to help me, how long can the tmodule and the battery stay unattended after being fully charged?
+erick sal Once the tp4056 terminates the charge the current drained from the battery is in the microamps. There shouldn't really be any issue leaving them connected. I thought the datasheet stated the voltage at which the charge would start again - but now I can't find that detail.
for many sound circuits, this is perfect.
Very interesting features with this fairly recent module. One captivating news is the "Temp" monitoring and actuating possibility. To my humble opinion, this board has been designed with an array of uses to fit modern electronics and in particular, computer based devices. For instance, the Temp connector would be very useful and allows laptops' batteries to be refurbished with safe charge controller including Thermistor sensor. I think hobbyists will find it rewarding as a device that allows versatility and innovation.
Do laptop battery assemblies include NTC sensors ?
Just thinking out loud:
The fact that it uses the older miniUSB socket would indicate to me that rather than being new, this board is as old as the older TP4056 module. The one without the output pads used miniUSB. I suspect this might be a dumping of an obsolete board that was specifically designed to do what a particular client needed. Perhaps it was for a product line that just didn't make it. Or it was for a specific industry, and we never saw it. Also, the quality of the push button switches is better than expected, which contributes to that last assumption. Might have been part of some obsolete portable computing device. The negative voltage may be, as another user mentioned, for op-amps. Perhaps the device it was meant for had audio circuitry as well. A portable audio calibration device? Anyway, I am not convinced that it is a "new" product.
Cheers from Canada!
Thats actually what I am looking for - except the minus voltage part. The 3.3v is usefull to run for example an NodeMCU or ESP8266 or something like that on Battery. Then you can use it directly on the 3.3v pin instead of the VIN Pin which consumes current. Depends on how good the linear voltage regulator is on that device.
The minus voltage can be usefull for example for LCD-Displays as there are displays outside which need a minus voltage for the V0 Pin - the contrast adjust pin.
That little guy is a bit too fancy - I found the schematics of that other board you where shoing and added an AP2112 to the output to drop the output voltage from 4,2 (if fully charged) to always 3.3v with a current draw of only 50uA which makes it suitable for long-life battery usage on low power devices like the NodeMCU in sleep-mode.
At least... thats my 50 cents to it, I am just guessing :)
The 5v feeds might be able to power some of those cheap digital voltmeters seen on the Bay of E. Might be a great addition to a board project as it will give an indication when the charge will be done. Some need at least 4 volts to run. Look for "Mini DC 0-100V Voltmeter 0.56" LED Display Digital Panel Volt Meter Gauge" Beware which one you choose, some start reading at 4.5v
Let's hook this board up to the discharge system as a variable charger for lipo batteries!
It did cross my mind...!
nice furtures. handy ekstra funktions usable when flashing chips and other elektrick works.
the full mA range ? great to have. arduino and so very limited on mA output
If the 5V output is also on when only the battery is connected its great for a DIY powerbank.
+Tobimai I didn't check that but I will. Not holding my breath though a sim fairly sure that's just a the input voltage.
If it doesn't have some kind of boost circuitry, it's just the input voltage. They just threw all kind of (unnecessary) "options" onto the board so it could be sold for higher price. If it had booster to 5V, then it would be useful for 5V Arduino and other 5V stuff. Now it can be used only with 3.3V Arduino (although I wonder it can keep 3.3V when battery is half-way full or less), but why bother?
Well it's actually useless if it cant boost the voltage back up....
Also it won't support high currents, no heatsinks
3.3 volt would b good for audrinos and things like that that need 3.3 volt and any diveces that may go with that needeing dependent voltages
I want to power this with a couple of small solar cells and charge a 18650 battery to use with an ESP8266 based weather station which uses 3.3v, so i think it's a neat little device and exactly what i need. However he's not selling to my location 😡 I am assuming/hoping that 3.3 voltage regulator would work only from the battery as well when it's not being charged since this is not shown on the video. Also, i think the temperature input pin is neat and i would like to test it with an NTC thermistor attaching next to the 18650. I think that temp pin would be useful in extreme temperatures since my project is for a weather station which will be working sometimes in very hot days and sometimes under bad winter conditions.
I would actually appreciate any comments on this.
right, they have thrown in all in a single board. not sure what is the purpose tho.
The -3v and -5v switch is dangerous. An accidental touch and something could fry.
Yeah - bit risky I guess. Thanks
Multi-chemical battery charging maybe? So, you can multiple or minus voltage outputs.
+Mehmet Kaya Interesting theory - thanks.
I designed a new module TP4056ADV-FLEX based on the TP4056 which has a 5V USB input as well as a screw terminal and DC-Jack inputs for 7-25V input from various sources, like a router power pack for example. It allows to select various charge current settings via jumpers (60mA-1A) and gives output straight from the battery (with protection) but also 4-25V via a booster chip (200mA-700mA depending on voltage). if anyone is interested, let me know.......
Thanks for sending me the pictures - it looks like a great module you've built.
Wow really cool
I actually just started selling TP4056FlexAdv and TP5100FlexAdv on Tindie!
www.tindie.com/stores/soubitos/
Hi Adam, I believe these ultra precise potentiometers have 25 turns on them
Yep, it seems 1K Ohm, 10% tolerance with 25 turns.
Link: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10pcs-3296W-102-3296-W-1K-ohm-Trim-Pot-Trimmer-Potentiometer-CG/152217956302?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38661%26meid%3Da1b5addb29ed4fccbac66a3c96c3ceec%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D291820619495
Mehmet Kaya I like them
Hey Adam, big fan. I was wondering if you could do a video on this module/PCS (DD04CVSA)
Please, if you discover it, tell us!
I was thinking about a small USB powered, multi-speed, winch.
Seems to me that this is a nice rechargable/adjustable power supply for IC logic control circuits. I dont see the mystery here!
But its setup makes no sense, nor do the buttons
hey buddy, great vid, I have a question, I'm gonna charge a a tablet battery, just the battery alone with the tmodule, my source of energy will be a solar cell, 6v 300mah, my question to you or if anyone would be kind to help me, how long can the tmodule and the battery stay unattended after being fully charged?
ultra capacitor and/or discharge for battery reconditioning?
Yeah weird but how do you charge multiple batteries in series with a simple thing like this?
+THE LEGEND 27 Generally you can't. The negative is common from input to output. When you connect a USB power supply to each module you can cause a short.
this does seem like it's uses are limited :p
+BitsAndBites To just charging lithium cells? :-p I'd love to find out if it was designed with a specific use in mind.
cool
Could we use tp4056 board to charge aa and aaa rechargeable batteries?
No, it's set to charge to 4.2 volts and uses a different termination method I'm afraid.
If you mean AA and AAA as the normal 1.2 volt battery types, then NO, you cannot use this.
But, the ONLY exception is if you meant a 3.7 volt lithium-ion cell that has the size and shape of an AA battery. If you're not sure what I mean, then the overall answer is NO. Do not use a TP4056 for anything other than a 3.7 volt Li-Ion cell. (Note: 4.2 volts is the charging voltage for 3.7 volt Li-Ion batteries, as stated by Adam, above)
are you coping julien illet? you have almost the same style of videos as julien, including a flashlight with the name on it
+DerpyDoom I hope I'm not copying. I'm a massive fan of his channels and have certainly used them as inspiration, but I'm trying very hard to look at different things. The pen knife was a gift and helps me ensure people don't copy my videos (which has happened). If I'd have written my name on my bench I could be accused of copying Big Clive! Julian has been very kind to my little channel. I hope he's let me know if he saw a problem. Thanks for your comment.
Just so You know, even if copied, I don't care. Both of You do awesome videos.
That's why I am a subscriber of You and Julien, and not to forget Big Clive :)
Even if he were, it's the highest form of complement. Just found this channel and am enjoying.
+derpydoom Ditto :)
The question is "Julien Illet copying who?". This is the internet.
Hi Adam!
Is there a TP4056 that support input more then 5v? 12v?
Thank you for your attention.
+Gustavo Severo The TP4056 IC itself can only take up to 6v on its input. Modules could be made with a buck regulator to drop the voltage down for the TP5056 but it might not be mass market. TP5000 modules generally claim up to 9v on the input. So I think you'll need to drop the voltage first, then use a dedicated charging IC.
why do people use -5v?
audio amp
Ask Julian Ilett or BigClive.com! !
hey buddy, great vid, I have a question, I'm gonna charge a a tablet battery, just the battery alone with the tmodule, my source of energy will be a solar cell, 6v 300mah, my question to you or if anyone would be kind to help me, how long can the tmodule and the battery stay unattended after being fully charged?
+erick sal Once the tp4056 terminates the charge the current drained from the battery is in the microamps. There shouldn't really be any issue leaving them connected. I thought the datasheet stated the voltage at which the charge would start again - but now I can't find that detail.