Pfaff 260/360 Overview and discussion
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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2018
- In this video, I talk (a lot!) about my Pfaff 260 and 360 sewing machines. I discuss some common problems, things I like, and why I don't think I'm ultimately going to keep these machines around.
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Can't resist posting this. My dad came back from a long overseas trip back in the late 50's or early 60's I think (he was in the Navy) and brought this fancy Pfaff 360 as a gift to my 'non-domestic' mother. It didn't go over well and my dad learned a very valuable lesson about gifts for my mother. It had almost no use in over 40 years. She gave it to me without batting an eye. I had it cleaned and the darn thing can sew through anything! Now that they are both gone it makes me smile every time I see it.
I wonder how many of these machines are still sitting in garages and attics waiting to be brought back to life. I guess not too many Pfaffs because of their expense and being a "foreign" brand (as compared to the ubiquitous Singers and other domestic models).
I picked one up but haven’t taken it apart.❤
I like the way machines stand the time and yet work well against aged of time.😊
I was given a 1963 Pfaff 360 which had not been used for 30 years and it had rusted from being neglected. It took me a lot of penetrating oil and some hot African sun to loosen the dried up oil and rust. Eventually everything loosened it all but the timing was out of kilter. I reset it and now use it regularly to sew tripod bags. Because it is all metal it is relatively straightforward to fix. There are no computers involved.
I have a 360 that's been in my family since new 1968. My wife scarely used it, but I have made numerous Sumbrella car covers, truck covers, boat covers, bags, and marine upholstery. As mentioned, 6 layers of canvas is possible, using manual pressure on the flywheel, new needle, working it in/out slowly. I never used the embroidery cams. I have saved 1000's of $ making and repairing my own stuff, I bought big rolls of Sumbrella back when it was cheap. Did I mention replacement canvas awnings and slide toppers on my RV? I bought a DVD with exploded diagrams and parts, but never needed to fix anything. I oil the machine a lot. The motor seems weak for heavy duty use.
Engineering intuition is the nylon-gear is meant to be a failure point. So if you really jam up the works, the gear will strip before more expensive, harder to replace parts.
KitchenAid mixers are a classic example of this.
I agree with this, but I think the reason it is seen as a problem for vintage machines is the gears are mostly no longer available; at best you can get another vintage gear that was removed from a parts machine and use it for as long as it lasts.
Recently, Sailrite changed their Posi-Pin to plastic for the exact reason you describe (the metal one was also designed to shear off, but the plastic one apparently does so more reliably). This is a great way to implement this kind of engineering, as it is a very inexpensive part to replace, and no effort is required (removing and replacing that pin is part of regular use of the machine, as opposed to disassembling a machine enough to change a gear).
So I think you are correct in your assessment, it's just more problematic for vintage machines.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mum still loves her Pfaff 360 she got in 1959 with the age of 19. She's a kind of "semi-professional sewer". We bought a new sewing machine for her, but she hated it. So the old 360 has to be repaired again (and again ;) ). By far best sewing machine in the world (that's what she said ;-) ).
Changed motor coals at my visit this Christmas.
As an older retired widower male in SW Florida, I too have gotten the sewing bug, just for something to do. Although I own a newer Janome and a Sailrite, the idea of digging into an older machine lays dormant in the back of my mind. Maybe. Someday.
In any case, I enjoy your videos, a thumbs up for you and I hope you keep making them.
I have just acquired a Pfaff vintage 1958 purchased in Germany. I am the second person to use it. It hadn’t been used in a long time but a general cleaning and oiling and it sews beautifully! Thanks for the video!
Just a quick correction, the belts are a fiber belt with the metal cogs. I own several 360 and 362’s along with several 1221, 1222 and 1229. These machines are definitely over engineered with tight tolerances. I believe the oils used back in their day turned into a varnish. evident by, as you’ve already mentioned, the stuck zigzag mechanism and also, the rotary hook. There’s a very close tolerance bushing assembly in the hook drive gear box that is responsible for MOST of the machines that exhibit seizure. I love digging into these machines and bringing them back into working condition for as you said, nothing runs like them when they are right. I believe they may be responsible for the phrase, “runs like a sewing machine” haha. But just like the German cars, these are not hammer and screwdriver fixer uppers. If one doesn’t have the service manual for adjusting the zigzag assembly and timing the machine, forget about trying to fix them. It’s a long drawn out step by step procedure to dial in the zigzag mechanism. I buy all the non working ones that I can find, if the price is right just because I love them that much❤️. Just some quick differences I’ve seen in my machines. The 362 is like the 360 with the addition of an automatic needle raise mechanism. Identified by a small Morse type cable running along the top inside of the cover between the presser foot lift lever, to the back of the machine to a microswitch assembly. I also HAD a 362 that was beautiful with NO embroidery features. Unfortunately it arrived destroyed due to piss poor packing and was returned after getting Ebay involved. They require very careful packing to ship. Anyways, thanks for making a nice video about these sweet machines. ❤️❤️
Thanks for the info!
Hi! I know you commented a while ago, but wondered if you would share your Pfaff expertise, or if you have a 360 for sale. I have a 360 I'm trying to fix! Thanks so much!
@@peanutsinthebed look around your neighborhood/city for sewing machine repair. I found a 360 on CL for 35 dollars bought it for a friend, paid another 100+ to a sewing machine repair shop, the person this was for, left and is never coming back, so now, I have a 360. She had 3 other sewing machines, she said she wanted it, why not ? YOLO. I am looking forward to sewing seat covers for my german cars...
I have my grandmother's 260 along with the purchase receipt. She paid $253.00 for it. I think in the 1960`s. Works perfectly. I love it.
Wow, that was a big investment back then! Holy cow!
Great info! I have been using a Pfaff 230 for 45 years, and now I'm adding the 260 flatbed this weekend! The price was right ($1.00) and it's been used often. I can't wait for the embroidery unit, and I hope it's as well maintained as it looks. I'm sure I'll be referring back to your videos in the next week.
I just love old sewing machines! I have found a few for great price points at thrift shops. I only buy machines that work. I oil, lube, clean, polish and wax to bring out their beauty...so gratifying! I learn a lot in the process about how they work...so fascinating. My most recent gems are a 1936 Featherweight ($50), and a beige singer Sew Handy hand crank “toy” ($20). My next project is a 1958 Kenmore 117.841 made in Germany by Pfaff before the company was Pfaff. This one has great sentimental value, my mom’s machine. She died last Aug. It has been her only machine and she sewed on it her entire adult life, right up to the day she died. It is now owned by my daughter. Thanks for the great videos.
Wow, a $50 Featherweight?!? That's a great find!
Awesome! a Featherweight! This is a gift that keeps on giving.Worth keeping in the Family! It always hurts a bit when grandkids give their grannys Machine away for a few bucks bc they dont know what its worth and dont care to get themselfes informed about it! they own a Ferrary and sell it like a cheap old car..
I love that you tell your kids how rare this Machine is...
Thank you. I just picked up a Pfaff 230 at a good price. I spent a lot of time getting it running good but it does a great job. Thanks for the information on the sticky control. Mine had that problem but it is getting better. I love the common sense and practical engineering that the German machine's have.
Welcome back. They do look very well engineered and sturdy. Thanks for the overview!
Precisely I was about to buy that exact machine. Thanks for the review 💕
Thanks à lot, Love to see that there is more than me who have this interest/hobbie.I just got à pfaff260 that was totally stuck. Used My hairdryer that i usually do and à LOT of patience. Im not à mechanic but i have the interest and will. So Thaks again/Sofia Sweden
Thank you for being honest about the mistakes you've made, and you have a beautiful kitty.
Yay! I just found one of these for $15, and I can't find anything wrong with it. Thanks for this video, it helped me to find out what to look for. My machine looks like it will just need lubricating and dusting!
Yes, make sure you give it a service before you put it to work. I busted one. Being there done so. Enjoy your jewel.
Looking forward to seeing more. Thank you.
I have watched this video probably twice a year since it came out (it came out just as I was learning to sew) and these machines come up on ebay classifieds in germany fairly frequently. One of these days, I'm going to buy one.
and I did.
hows it treating you?!
How much does it cost??
Yes, how much did you pay for it?
@@jaycentyler2154 it's one of my favorite sewing machines
Hello Jason. I am new to the trade and enjoy watching your channel. I also live in south west Florida. So much to learn. thank you for the lessons.
As an English speaker living in Germany, this has been vey helpful, thank you. Just bought one of these off my friend but i'm not fluent enough to understand the German videos about them.
I'm a bit late to the party, but in case this helps someone...
You can often loosen gummed-up controls (any make of machine) by heating the area with a hair dryer, then re-oiling. I bought a Pfaff 262 (made in 1968) for $30 at Goodwill, with the table, no less. Dating information is readily available on the net. I also found a service manual and owners manual online, though not free. This was some years ago...I just Googled it, and now viewable free.
Thanks for sharing, Bill!
I bought a Pfaff 262 for $60.00 AUD last year. I have to get fixed as the foot and the feed dogs clam shut when I try to sew on it. I bought it because these old machines have a reputation for being twice as fast the modern domestic sewing machine.
This video was helpful for me.
Wonderful machine and beautiful cat! Amazing the solid build of both machines. My mom has a 260, I think and I'm now in the process of helping her to restore it to working condition. Let's see how it goes. This video makes me hopeful! Thanks a lot!
I'm glad you had the chance to take some time off. I like to hear about the machines, but I think the favorite part is the cat.
Honestly, I make cat videos. The sewing is a front. :)
This machine just showed up in the thrift shop for tada: nothing. Ok, I am.not.a great sewer . But I had to grab it. Now: it has light and seems to be working. But not really.... I looked for the instructions manual which I found easily! Maybe I need to clean it thoroughly and learn how to even thread the yarn 🙄
Nice mug and that souvenir from Key West is not bad either.
LOL!
Welcome back Jason, hopefully you are refreshed and ready to take on more projects. I have replaced some nylon gears in my Singer 3102 and it still gives me issues with tension- thread bunching at times. I have a Sailrite Z model on my wish list for this winter. Glad you are giving it a good rating ( though noisy compared to those "elete light /designer models ). Have you ever tried spray penetrating oils on your lacquer- sticky mechanism issues without dis-assembly ? J K
Thanks James!
I liberally sprayed the mechanism with PB Blaster (my favorite penetrating oil, and what I happened to have on hand) and it did absolutely nothing. I've had this machine for quite some time and have just put off doing the repair out of dread, and I really hoped PB Blaster would do the trick. It didn't work for me (and I applied several times over a couple of days, too).
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@thejasonofalltrades Kerosine
It seems like something about older sewing machines kept their documentation from finding its way onto the internet. These beautiful Pfaff machines have caught my eye since I started back with this hobby and already I am finding it really difficult to find in depth information on the vintage models.
Hi. I am so happy to see this video. Pls, a friend dismantled the leather belt that acts as a pulley mechanism for the foot press. He could not fix it back. I need a video or pictures of the underneath it could help me. Thanks
There are 360's and there are 360's. I'm looking at one that does not have the embroidery cam but the manual says that this can be added if desired ( when the machines were still in manufacture). Lots of pressure feet available but basically just straight or zigzag.
Thx Jason
Glad to know your videos are providing a little "So the wife tolerates it" cash. :)
Thanks David!
Thanks
I found a 230 for $20 and it was stuck in every way. I latter found a 360 for $50, it was not stuck but it had other issues that I was able to work out. I didn't know until I watched your video that they use a different needle. It's marked on the machine as a 130 R.
I have a German made 1245 and it takes a 190 R. Also as common as hens teeth. I was advised to adjust the needle bar length in order to accommodate a common needle of similar in length. The newer 1245's use a common needle.
I have 2 Pfaff sewing machines. The one is a 7560, that I use everything day. I know it is not a Vintage machine. I also have a Durkopff tredle.
Thank you for the video. Please can your 262 work manually, with a treadle belt. It doesn't seem to have a compartment for the treadle belt. I look forward to your response
Hi it’s Norm I just wanted to check in and say hi and make sure you new the hot knife is working great hope your doing well
Hey Norm! I was using a hot knife at work yesterday and thought of you. Glad to hear it's working well for you, good to hear from you!
But your a very kind onest person
I have a Pfaff 2600 and my shuttle race is stricking. It does not turn smoothly. I was wondering if there is some adjustment or other remedy ot should I look for replacement?
Great video as usual. Are you still liking your Singer 237 ?? I found one a year ago based on your video and I am liking mine very much. Does a great job, parts are still available and it's easy to work on, and all metal innards. Mark in Colorado.
Hi Mark!
I LOVE my 237. I'll be publishing a video (hopefully later today) I just made using it to rebuild my running water bottle carrier that my knife destroyed.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Interesting to see the bibbin you use isn't what Pfaff supplied here in Europe
We have a slightly different one for these in stock.
Also standard needles don't exist.
130/705h should be fine. ^_^
Anyhow loved watching your video whilst servicing a 360 for a client
Hi would you be able to explain how to put together the tension unit for pfaff 362 which I think is the same as pfaff 262 many thanks xx
Thanks!
Thank you!
Hi. Can you tell us how to fix a rotary hook thread jamming with pfaff 260 ? We couldnt figure out how to open the hook.. thnx
I got a 230 my grandma bought. The warranty certificate says 1954
I have owned 14 Singers (all sturdy old ones, except the newest one, a Singer Talent, which broke and has been back to Singer 4 times, now given up with it. I won't buy Singer again), a Toyota, and am just about to buy one of these, hence being here.
Did you buy Pfaff 262 or 360? How did you find it? I am interested. Please advise me. I have 262
@@omawladiana-my8tn I decided against it and have bought a Janome 6700p. Main reason, Janome is solid and robust and the dealer is not far from me.
I just bought the 260 for 300 euros together with the table.i still haven't manage to get used to it. The person who sold it to me told me that it hasn't been used much.the truth is that i dont need more than straight stitch and zic zac. But i feel that i paid way too much
I don't know what the used market in Europe is like for those machines, but they are a very nice machine. If you use it and enjoy it, I wouldn't worry too much about how much you paid; very few sewing machines are good investments in terms of appreciating in monetary value, but they can be great investments in terms of usefulness and joy.
It was like reading my own story. Bought 332, and spent extra $100 to make it work. Tensioner breaks constantly, and bobbin case jams quite often due to thread entanglement. Great engineered machine, just not for me who is technically challenged.
Please is pfaff 230 only for decorating
I have a 362 for several years now and I used a heat gun as a method, common recommendation on forums, to unstruck the zig-zag. You don't have to dwell into more than what he has shown.
Another issue with pfaffs is that the presser foot bar tends to get frozen if they are left to sit for years. Some penetrating oil and a small heat gun careful applied to the bushings will get them loose.
How can I stop the zig zag in pfaff 230
Nice video, Jason. I have a 260 and 360 as well and love them both. I also have a file that correlates the serial number to the date of manufacture. I also have the shop manuals in .pdf. Contact me if you'd like any of the afore-mentioned.
The embroidery mechanism is useless as boobs on a boar for us folks that are using these to make gear. I make motorcycle gear and typically sew 1000D Cordura and ballistic nylon. What I have done with both machines is 'flat-top' them; that is, I have a removed the mechanism and replaced the tops with non-embroidery tops. They show up on e-bay fairly often. This makes servicing and periodic oiling much easier.
I use the 360 solely as a free-arm and so have removed the table. However, if you like the table then find the table extension as it makes the table that much better.
I've also found that replacing the 360's light-weight phenolic hand wheel with a nice, heavy metal wheel from a 332. Gives the machine a bit more ooomph once it is running.
Don't sell them; you'll live to regret it. A nicely matched pair of machines that are in good shape are not easily replaced.
That's great info, and I'll reach out to you - I suspect a shop manual would be helpful in getting this thing back together!
Thanks for the excellent comment, and thanks for watching!
I've put them here for you; grab them at your convenience.
www.souperdoo.com/stuff%20that%20i%20think%20about/files-for-folks
Thanks for the good leads. And in the middle of repairing my Pfaff 360, I committed the fatal error of losing the spring like you warned against because it was the hardest thing you had to recover. Can you please tell me where the spring connects near the bottom of the machine. I was able to fish the free end up but, alas, it came up unconnected and I can't find a repair manual that shows where to reconnect the bottom of the spring.
Hi,
I'm so sorry for taking so long to reply. Hopefully you've resolved this by now, but if not, email me at the jason of all trades @ gmail . com (remove the spaces) and I can send you a picture of where it attaches.
@@thejasonofalltrades Hi. I made the exact same mistake the other day while working on my 360 but managed to solve it after a while. It's almost impossible to see that lower attachment point from above as it's really dark down there. What I did, though, was I removed the rear motor cover plate and used a really strong LED lamp to light up the inside, ie the area above where the motor sits, When looking down again from above, you'll see a small black hook down there. Straight down but a bit toward the opposite side of the machine, ie where the power cord inlet is. Then I just attached a piece of steel wire to the spring and lowered it down from above and attached it to the hook. That part was pretty easy, actually Then I used another piece of wire to connect the spring to the lever arm. Hope that helps a little. Otherwise, hope it will for others :-)
THANK YOU for the video. I should replace both levers (zig zag and back and forth) of the pfaff 260. can you give me some advice on how to do it? or links to others vedeo? thank you
Hi Franco,
My experience working on this machine ended with one broken lever, so I don't think I'm the best person to ask. Unfortunately, I don't know of any resources for detailed instructions. I haven't worked with these machines in some time.
Sorry I can't be more help, good luck!
Thanks for the review! I wonder whats the thickest thread you've used on the 360? I am struggling to make mine have the correct tension with a Tex 70 Thread... Thanks for any tips
Hi,
I think I've only used V69/T70 in this machine, but I've used a lot of it. It should definitely handle V69/T70 just fine. Can you describe what issue you're having exactly? Have you tried other thread thicknesses without issue?
thejasonofalltrades hey! Just read your reply, thanks! I realized my tension issues come after I swap the standard presser foot for the zipper foot or any other non-hinged foot... the topstitch looks good but the bottom is a mess. This happens only with tex 70 thread. All-fabrics thread works fine all times. Have you tried that thread with those special foot pressers?
Cool cat.
Looking for a timing belt 260. And rotary hook
How did you finally get the spring hooked back up? That is the point I’m at right now.
Hi!
I hate to say this, but I honestly don't remember at this point. There was a lot of profanity involved, but I don't remember any specific method that finally got the job done. Sorry!!!
Oh my could I use your help! I'm trying to do alterations in a shop for a lady out sick. There's like 9 of these and industrial Pfaff machines. I can't get any of them to work and no one to show me how! Have a lot of jeans to hem and the lil cheapo machine I'm using can't handle it!
Hi,
Feel free to email me. The jason of all trades @ gmail . com (remove the spaces)
I have never heard that Pfaff domestic machines use a different needle and I can't find any info on it. 130/705, HAx1, 15x1 are all the same needle as far as I know. The only needle I know of that is the same as the 15x1 needle except for a shorter point, like the needle you showed, is a Singer Class 206 needle. The Class 206 is a proprietary Singer needle for Singer Machine models 206, 306, 319 and maybe a few others. I wonder if someone put a class 206 needle in the machine?
The manual for the Pfaff 260 states that a system 130R needle is the correct needle, and I don't find ay references to any other machines using that after a cursory Google search. Scouring the internet, I find either no information, vague information, or unsupported opinions about 130R.
The closest to a "supported" statement I've found is on the Schmetz website, in a reply to a question - "According to one of the SCHMETZ technicians, 130R is the same as 130/705 H - Universal needle."
To the best of my knowledge, 130R is, if not exactly the same, close enough to 15x1 that it probably doesn't matter. The fact that we're even having this discussion sort of underscores one of the "issues" that I have with this machine - there are questions that aren't as easily answered as with more common machines, even with all of the world's collected information right at our fingertips!
Oh, and the shorter needles I have are in a package that is Pfaff-labeled, so I don't think it's a Class 206 - but that's great information, too!
The lives of sewing enthusiasts would be improved if needle and thread manufacturers all decided on ONE standard to use lol!
Thanks for your input, and thanks for watching!
Hello Sir ! Can I have the French user manual for the Pfaff 360 sewing machine?
Hi Jason. So I let go of the zig-zag lever spring. When reinstalling the zig-zag assembly. I can't tell yet where the lower end connected down below. (Pfaff 362) long spring that goes from top down to bottom towards motor area. Any ideas?
Hi Dean,
It's REALLY hard to see, and harder for me to explain without showing you. If you remove the side cover (lower-right side of the machine if you're standing in front of it, approximately 2.5"x4" with four screws) you might see the hook that the spring hooks on to.
If you still can't find it, send me an email at thejasonofalltrades @ gmail . com and I might be able to send you a photo.
Good luck. Getting that spring re-attached is a pain!!!
@@thejasonofalltrades I wish I'd watched your video earlier. As I had the spring anchored over night then it slipped off my thread loop. So Ya, if u can pin point the connection point down inside so I know where to fish. (: I emailed u.
Can you recommend a sewing machine for heavy fabrics? Like denim, vinyl, or leather ?
Hi Dana,
I have several videos on my channel about the Sailrite Ultrafeed machine, if you aren't familiar with them, that's where I would suggest you start!
(To save you from a lot of time watching videos, the Ultrafeed machines are not cheap, and there are many lower-priced machines on the market that look just like them. I have gone on and on about this topic in various videos, but suffice to say, my strong opinion is the Sailrite is worth the premium price, and I have serious doubts about the lower-priced machines.)
Thanks for watching!
Do you have any idea where I might find parts for these machines? I am looking for the lever/switch for the zigzag function.
I guess I should have asked more about the sites you have found them.
Hi Kirby,
I ordered a zig-zag lever from brubakerssewing.com/product-category/machine-accessories/sewing-machine-replacement-parts/retro-pfaff-parts-oem/page/3/
What I received was actually a stitch-length adjustment lever. They look identical on the outside, but connect to the machine differently and are not interchangeable (at least as far as I can tell). They were very good about the return, and they have some other vintage Pfaff parts, but last I checked they still only have the stitch length lever (for $60!). They do carry some other vintage Pfaff parts, though, and their customer service was very good.
Sadly, probably the best way to get a zig-zag lever is off of another Pfaff 260/360, if you can find a cheap broken one that isn't cheap and broken because of the zig-zag lever being damaged or destroyed in the process of repairing the common "stuck zig-zag" problem.
My 360 is sitting on a shelf, waiting for me to find that lever.
Good luck, and if you find a better source, let me know!
hi interesting video thank you, i have a Pfaff 260 in one of this sewing cabinet, and i want to get it out of from this. do you know where I can find instructions for removing the machine from this cabinet? Thank you, Sylvia
I don't know where to find instructions specific to your cabinet, but it should be held in the cabinet by two pins inserted into holes in the back of the base of the machine. There will be a set screw locking the pins. Tilt the machine back, loosen the set screws, and lift the machine off of the pins.
I hope that helps!
For a sewing machine to sew well you need good bearings and good fit between the gears. All metal gear sewing machine wear out. The fit between the gears become sloopy. Most vintage sewing machines with metal gearing probably need all of the gears replaced. How can you tell? Sew a straight stitch and simply measure the stiches length with a set of calipers. (Longest stitch length.) If your stitch length varies more then the width of your needle, most likely the gears are worn.
So why nylon gears. Metal gears wear out at the same rate as nylon gears. But if one gear is a nylon gear, the only gear that will wear out is the nylon gear, it easier and cheaper to replace just 1 gear than having to replace all the gears. I use to believe all metal gears are the way to go but after finding out the reason behind a nylon gear, it make sense.
Interesting info! Thanks for sharing!
Hello, how can I replace the carbon brushes, from the Pfaff 260 sewing machine, thanks in advance
Hi,
I'm not a qualified sewing machine mechanic, and I haven't ever replaced brushes in an electric motor. I don't know if he has a video specifically on the Pfaff 260, but you might check out the channel of AndyTube, he does a lot of sewing machine repairs and might be able to help you.
Thanks for watching!
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Why is my tread in bobbin breaking
can you sew thicker materials with it? like layers of denim?
Hi,
Sorry for taking so long to reply!
These machines are as capable as any other domestic sewing machine, and probably more than some. I've used them to sew heavier fabrics like 1000d Cordura nylon. Like all non-walking-foot machines, thicker seams in heavier fabrics can be difficult for the machine to feed, but no more so than any other domestic non-walking-foot machine.
I hope that helps, thanks for watching!
I have a beautiful Pfaff 362 and hope you can help me. I've successfully removed and cleaned the zig-zag knob and regulator (no damage). I am having the DARNDEST (putting it politely after six hours!) time trying to re-coordinate these two parts. Outside the machine the knob is smooth, both levers move freely and the dial rotates nicely throughout its range. When I try to install the regulator something's out of alignment or time. Installed, the dial locks up at #1 and the horizontal lever moves only slightly with no result. I've tried installing in reverse to no avail. Is there a 'trick'? I'm confounded...
Hi...Chris Nielsen. Do you come from Holland?? I have just installed The zig zag regulator with succes. But have problem with finding the tension spring pivot point at the bottom. So what do you want to know.
Hi, I'm afraid I don't have much to offer here at the moment. My Pfaffs have both been on a shelf since about the time this video was produced. Hopefully some other viewers have advice for you, good luck!
@@chrismulder7093 Chris, no I'm in Halifax, NS Canada!. Remove the right end plate ( 4 bolts) covering the motor to give some light down there. Looking down, there is a small downward tab like a finger that you can about 10cm you can see with a flashlight. Take a piece of wire about 25cm long (I used 2mm copper strand from electrical wire) and bend a hook in it to catch the upper end of the spring. You can also use a strong string with a loop. Grasp the upper end of the spring with a pair of LONG needle-nosed pliers and shove it down to hook the lower hook around the finger while keeping a hold and tension on the spring. carefully pull up and hook it over the hook on the regulator. It took me a few tries.
@@chrisnielsen641 Hi Chris, thanks for advise. The job is done using yours clues.
Jason- my 360 makes a clicking noise under the top cover - these roller finger things seem to roll off the cam with a loud click - why ? thanks
Hi,
I'm sorry, I don't have enough knowledge of how these things work to give you an answer.
Some guesses would be that some component is stuck in the wrong position - maybe something like PB Blaster can help free up a stuck component. Something might be bent or broken. If you NEVER use the cams for embroidery stitches, the whole assembly can be removed and the machine will function as a straight-stitch (and I think zig-zag) machine.
Sorry I can't answer any better, good luck!
Vc poderia me ajudar preciso da correia do motor desta máquina a PFAFF 360 e gostaria de ver vc mostrando todos os acessórios que podemos ainda encontrar a venda tais como as chaves e a borrachinha circular de encher a bobina . Moro no Brasil teria como vc achar a correia do motor desta máquina e me enviar? Qual o valor?
Hallo Jason I can buy a Pfaff 360 that is new. Somebody bought it and dit nothing with it. Do you think I get high costs if I buy it? Ida
Hi Rudy,
If you can get it for a good price, it's a great machine. If it's been sitting for a long time, there's a very good chance the zig-zag will be glued stuck by the anti-corrosion substance applied by the factory. If you're willing and able to do the work to unfreeze it, it can still be a good buy.
Good luck, and let us know how it works out!
Do you have a parts diagram for the 260. Have one we got in a cabinet but it needs both belts replaced, Thanks
Hi Richard,
Sorry for taking so long to reply! I do not have any additional information on these machines unfortunately. The info is probably somewhere out there on the internet, although the best information may be in German. Good luck with your project, these machines are worth the effort!
Hola ua pregunta ,mi maquina 260 no retrocede le doy a la palanca y nada es iguala la que usted tiee ahi gracias si me puede decir que hacer agradecida
Hola, es difícil decirlo sin ver la máquina, pero es posible que el mecanismo inverso necesite lubricación. A veces, las partes de estas máquinas se bloquean y una lubricación completa puede aflojarlas. Espero que eso ayude, ¡buena suerte!
Was watching your video, if you go to the ismacs site and click on research and check Pfaff, they have now .obtained the info via Australia that can help you date your Pfaff
I can't get the stitch width dial to turn on my 360. I just bought the machine and it runs great in all the other ways. I don't have the manual, is there a trick I'm missing.
Nevermind, you answered my question.
Yep, sounds like the classic Pfaff issue. It's a bit of a pain to get to the part that is stuck. Someone once commented on a video of mine that they were able to get theirs loosened up with liberal application of lubricant, so you might give that a try if you're hesitant to dig in to the mechanics.
Good luck, it's a beautiful machine!
Don't know if you're still answering questions on this video, but is there really a difference between the 15x1 needle and the System 730R specified in the 260/360 owners' manual? Schmetz Needeln, who ought to know, says they are interchangeable. You're right about the bobbin; it's not compatible with the Class 66 or Class 15 bobbins most sewers are familiar with.
Hi,
My current understanding is that they are close enough to be interchangeable. I haven't experimented with my own machine, though.
Thanks for the question, and thanks for watching!
@@thejasonofalltrades Thanks! BTW I admire someone as physically active as yourself who still finds time to master the detail necessary to make beautiful and useful objects.
Would the Pfaff sew camper canvas?
Hi!
Short answer is "yes." Long answer is "it depends."
Most sewing machines can sew most fabrics, the tricky part is when those fabrics get sewn in to complex/thick shapes, and get things like zippers, drawcord channels, folded-over hems, overlapping seams, etc. If you're sewing something like a simple tarp, with nothing more than a double-fold hem, you would probably be fine with something like these, or any other vintage domestic sewing machine. You may have to plan carefully; when a double-folded hem (three layers) meets another double-folded hem at a corner, there are now 6 layers. You might need to miter corners or find some other way to keep the layer count manageable.
My general advice is if you're just tinkering or have a small number of projects to do, a vintage domestic machine is the most affordable way to get it done, but you may have to struggle a little. If you're making a lot of stuff with heavier fabrics, you'll probably want a walking-foot sewing machine, either portable (Sailrite Ultrafeed) or an industrial.
I hope that helps, thanks for watching!
Hi my mother has Pfaff 260 and it’s starter is not working and I am looking for a new starter and also new belt but I don’t know from where I can buy Pfaff 260’parts 😕.
Unfortunately, I think eBay may be the best answer. I've been told the German eBay site has a lot, if you can work with that.
Good luck!
thejasonofalltrades thank you
Era importante ter representantes e peças de reposição da PFAFF aqui no Brasil pois estou precisando da correia do motor da PFAFF 360be aqui nao temos está peças . Vc sabe como posso conseguir está correia amo minha máquina e gostaria muito de ver ela funcionando outra vez .
Os cintos podem ser adquiridos no site alemão do eBay, mas não sei se você pode acessá-lo. Espero que ajude, boa sorte!
I have my mother's pfaff 360 that my dad gave to her in 1960. It is the only machine that I have ever used and I love it. Only problem is it is hard finding someone to repair and service. If anyone has had any luck getting a vintage pfaff repaired in connecticut please post. Thanks
They aren't in Connecticut, but this place has ben helpful to me. They might be able to suggest someone closer to you if they can't help.
brubakerssewing.com
Hi, I have a Phaff 360. but im having trouble with the zigzag. Do you think you can help me. With this Covid-19 going right now, everything is closed including sewing repair shops.
Hi Belinda,
can you tell me what kind of trouble you're having?
If it's the typical stuck zig-zag, here is a link to a video I found that explains how the repair is done. I would not say the repair is easy, but if you are mechanically inclined it can be done. I did it to my 360, but I broke some stuff while I did it. I'm not always as careful as I should be.
ua-cam.com/video/I88JB_5QxBg/v-deo.html
I hope that helps, let me know if it's something other than the stuck zig-zag.
@@thejasonofalltrades it will only move needle positions just slightly. i had it moving good from side to side and then put it back together... once together it didnt work again. How can we talk privately to see if i can get this thing working.
You are welcome to email me at the jason of all trades @ gmail . com (remove the spaces).
I want to be clear, I am NOT a sewing machine mechanic, and it's been some time since I've even looked at my Pfaffs. I have them and can pull them off the shelf and try to puzzle things out with you, but I can't promise I'll be any help. It's worth a try, though!
@@belindasommerville Hi Belinda. I just bought a 240 converted to a 260. It too had stuck zig-zag control and it wouldn't follow the cams in embroidery mode. I could hardly get the mechanism to move. So I soaked it heavily with WD40 while working the levers. Eventually and quite suddenly it worked free. So I soaked it some more and oiled all the lubrication points. They have red circles painted around them on top and underneath they are drilled out cups where the shaft bearings are. I think a penetrating oil would have worked faster. Also, I didn't realize the bobbins are different. I don't think pre wound bobbins will work in these machines. And the needles are special. Their cheap on Amazon and plentiful but different. My other machine is a 241 Singer that I inherited. A beast.
Where can I get a complete manual for the Pfaff 360?
www.pfaff.com/SiteMedia/PFAFF/Products/Machines/Support-manuals/pfaff_360-manual-EN.PDF
@@thejasonofalltrades
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Thank you, Jason, oh so very much for the manual for my beloved 360 Pfaff.
Your service is above and beyond superior. You are what makes the internet wonderful and friendly, let alone I do not have to pull my hair out anymore. LOL
Colleen
My Pfaff 360 is overheating after 5 minutes etc. You experienced this?
Hi,
I have not experienced this. The motor for the 360 is inside the base of the machine. If you haven't, you might check to see if dust and lint have built up around the motor, which might prevent the motor from cooling efficiently.
I hope that helps, good luck!
Can you run T69 thread through this machine?
I use size V69/T70 pretty much exclusively, and these machines run it just fine.
Thanks for the question, and thanks for watching!
@@thejasonofalltrades
I purchased one of these machines and with a expensive service it runs like a champ. These machines definitely win in the cool category! I was afraid to run heavy thread through it. Going to give it a shot with some 69 thread. Thanks for reply.
Just imaging your stitching giving out in 40 below weather.....
262 n. Machine banwana hy khan se samprk kryn indea my
witam czy jeszcze się zajmijesz naprawą maszyn ? potrzebował bym pomocy
odpisz proszę
Witam, przepraszam ale nie jestem specjalistą w naprawie maszyn do szycia. Dwa kanały, które polecam, a które mogą Ci się przydać, to „In Stitches” i „AndyTube”. Mam nadzieję że to pomogło!
i have 100 pic in Germany
Mine did not come with the disc, so I'm wondering if there is a proper name for it? Thank you so much for this video.
Only one of mine came with the disk.I think it is called a "stitch pattern wheel."
I hope that helps, thanks for watching!
@@thejasonofalltrades thank you!!
I have a 362-261 & had a 332-260. What can you say of the differences from 360 to 362 as far as which is older or has what newer added features? I was thinking motors were different.
I wish I had more info for you, but my already limited Pfaff knowledge is pretty restricted to these two machines that I have. Hopefully someone who actually knows can comment on your question!
Thanks for watching!
@@thejasonofalltrades Thankx on the reply. I'm learning as I go on these two Pfaff 362 332. What is the heaviest (thick) thread I can get through these machines on a 120/19 Needle? 92 polyester ok?
In very general terms, size 69 is considered the heaviest thread one should use in most domestic sewing machines. I've used 92 in my Singer 237 (comparable to the Pfaff machines you have) without issue.
Basically, you should select the thread based on the material, and the needle based on the thread (this can get a lot more complicated, but that's a good general rule). If I were limited to one thread size, I'd choose 69. It works great on 1000D Cordura and similar tech fabrics, I've used it on lightweight silnylon (not ideal, but it worked), and we use it on some leather applications at work. So if 92 is a concern or your machines don't like it, try 69.
Good luck, and ask away if you have questions. I have 100+ videos on sewing on my channel, so have a look around if you haven't already!
@@thejasonofalltrades thank you for following up. I am digging through parts & original paperwork in a Pfaff 368 indicate the 360 260 262 but no 362 yet so as soon as I date this 368 I can narrow it down. I'm guessing 1966 or so. I noticed the 360 362 motors are the same size but different model numbers inside.
@@khanscombe619 did you end up trying 92 thread? If so did the machine do okay with it or would you recommend 69 thread instead?
What's kitty's name? He's adorable, and stole the show!!! LOL!!!
His Bobbin, and it's his show. He just lets me be in front of the camera from time to time ;)
Sorry to correct you, but every bit of technical info you could ever want is available for these machines as it is for most post war Pfaffs, in German. So, what you're looking at is a language issue, not a matter of unavailability.
Thanks for the correction. If you have recommendations on where that information can be found, I'm sure others would benefit from it!
I know the problem, they have hair balls.
You may have a point. :)
Hard to watch 15 minutes you talking about what you going to say later. Just say it!
Hi,
I'm genuinely curious as to what, exactly, you think the result of your comment will be. If you don't care for my presentation style, that's totally fine (many people would agree with you, I'm sure), but do you think I'm going to read your comment and completely change my personality from what it actually is? I watch a LOT of UA-cam, and when I click on a video and find it isn't my style, I generally click the "back" button and look for something else. Is there something you hope will happen because you took the time to type this comment? Seriously, I am sincerely wondering.
Hi, I glad you ask. Not everybody can evolve. Explaining.
I was looking for some Pfaff 260 information, and stepped in yours. Still wondering, why did you make it? and what was the point ?
99BS +1% useful info.
After I got your reply, I looked again and immediately found this one. It is about problems you faced in both your machines : locked zig-zag .
100% useful information. (link below)
ua-cam.com/video/I88JB_5QxBg/v-deo.html
I have 2 hopes.
1. You will make better videos, containing more than 1% of useful info.
2. You will finally fix your machines.
Kind regards
@@McXyu It appears you and I completely disagree on what my content is intended for. With all due respect, I'll stick with my intent for my content, and I congratulate you for being able to find what you were looking for by continuing to search the internet. It should be noted that the title of my video is "Overview And Discussion." What exactly did you expect if not an overview of, and discussion about, these machines?
I checked your channel, and was completely unsurprised that you offer no content of your own. Not creating content certainly doesn't preclude one from being able to critique the content of others, but over the years I have found one thing to be true; the least helpful critical comments always come from people who don't contribute anything of their own.
You should probably not bother with any of my other content, you definitely won't find it to be to your specific desires.
@@thejasonofalltrades
Do not consider your video as contribution. It falls in spam category . Total waste of time. "Gorgeous"...! C'mon.
Just show my message to your poor cat.
Kind regards