For the intro, I was going to have Sideshow BOB strangle Mr. Snrub to death, but the The Simpsons didn't reply back with the animation work in time. Oh well.
In 1993 when Bart became a mascot for Nestle Butterfingers. They did a contest called "who stole Bart's Butterfinger?". It was nationwide. People were encouraged to find out who from the suspects... Homer, Mr Burns, and Krusty were among the line of suspects... There was even a winner's cash prize of 50000$$ . It turned out the criminal was Krusty disguised as Homer. Two years later in 1995. Season 7 opened with Mr. Burns being shot by Homer disguised as Krusty.
There's a simpler way to explain why Burns accuses Maggy: He really thought she shot him. He was so focused in the baby's candy, struggling her for it, that never saw Homer (or Marge or Bart) approaching from behind. During the struggle his pistol fell, but outside the car instead of inside. The alternative attacker could get it and shot Burns while the old man was still fighting Maggy, who is the last thing he sees before collapsing, so the half-conscious victim assummed she do it somehow. The attacker panicked, throwing the gun in the open car before fleeing. Luckly for him/her, his identity wasn't revealed. The problem with the Simpson's DNA is easy to solve too: The eyelash on Burn's suit was Homer's, stuck on the clothes after he assaulted him in burn's Office a day or two ago. Or maybe it came from different interaction.
The actual shooter coming from behind is something I thought of but wasn't he shot from the front? I don't think it would be possible for that to happen without Burns noticing.
The eyelash could have come from any simpson during any close quarters interaction. Most likely Homer because he's the only person who dares get up in Burn's personal space. But it's weak evidence of any shooting. I go home covered in hair, spit, boogers, and God knows what else from the toddlers I look after...Their DNA on my shirt would not be amble evidence to convict their parents of any foul play if my body turned up dead. The DNA evidence, even from Maggie, would be WEAK sauce. I blame this on the writers being dumb though.
Or he could have been knocked unconscious either by his head hitting the ground or Homer punching him before he took the gun. Homer is a massive man at around 6'3" and 250+ pounds or so the man can pack a punch and has been shown to be far from a slouch in hand to hand combat before. I have no doubt that he'd be able to knock out Mr. Burns which in turn would likely cause a small lapse of memory, you tend to not remember between the full 2 hours to a few minutes minutes before you got knocked out depending on how bad it is.
@@de132 19:51 pretty much proves my point, the fact that TheRealJims emphasized the who shot Mr. Burns case specifically. at 20:13 TheRealJims even says he will make new Simpsons mysteries
I think the flashback to the gun under the seat actually is necessary. Krusty wears gloves, as does Homer in his Krusty costume. Therefore we would need an explanation for why the gun has Homer’s fingerprints. It’s always a possibility he forgot the gloves, but their explanation works. Great video.
It'd be extra hilarious of Homer did go through this elaborate plan to dress up as Krusty, gloves and all, only to later screw up by accidentally getting his fingerprints on the gun he left in his car.
@@BenCol That's his left hand. Searching for another picture from this scene, his right only has his pinky exposed, however images from other scenes in Homie the Clown show him wearing fully intact gloves with no fingers exposed.. Also 13:30 shows prints from 3 of Homer's fingers.
Also, when Homer is dressed up like Krusty, you can see when the third hair spike on the top of his head is tilted, which means it’s most likely a prop, not put on correctly.
Also, special thanks to the awesome PIEGUYRULZ for doing some very last-second consulting for this video. It was very kind of him to take some time to help me out with this project. :)
@@TheRealJims Well that was cool of him to help you out. I just found myself thinking that you two interacting seemed so odd and yet it made so much sense.
Mona Simpsons shot Mr Burns. Mona Simpsons was once accused for attempted murder of Mr Burns. She keeps a eye on Springfield and her worst enemy Mr Burns. She knows those hippie people and they must had told her about Mr Burns. She came back to stop Mr Burns like what she had done in the past. Mona is a hippie and was trying to stop his oil mining and the doom shield that was blocking the sun.
I just watched this scene again and noticed after Marge says "everyone in town's a suspect" there's a pan of people's close-up faces, and every character is drawn with their normal amount of detail, besides Krusty. Barney, Moe and Willie all still have wrinkles under their eyes. When Chief Wiggum says "It's a mask!", Krusty-Homer is standing directly behind him.
Since you encouraged us to share more crazy fan theories, here's mine: Mr. Burns was actually shot by... Chief Wiggum! (I know I'm not the first person who has thought of this, but I have more.) The simplest explanation to why Burns would accuse Maggie instead of naming the real shooter is that the shooter had already visited Burns in the hospital and negotiated a secret deal with him. So the shooter is either someone who was seen visiting Burns' hospital room alone after Burns recovered (Dr Nick, Homer) or someone who could have an unrestricted access there (members of the police force or the hospital staff). From these people, Chief Wiggum is the only one who could offer something so valuable to Burns that Burns would have a reason to accept the deal and let the person who shot him walk free. Burns commits a lot of crimes himself (and would probably commit more if there wasn't a risk of getting caught), so having the police chief permanently in his pocket would be extremely beneficial for him. The obvious advantage of the Wiggum theory is that we can ignore all the forensic evidence such as the Simpson DNA because Wiggum could have simply planted them during his "investigation" to protect himself. Also, a lot of Wiggum's actions in the story get new levels of hidden brilliance. Here's how I think it went: Part 1 After the town hall meeting Wiggum realises that Burns doesn't have a license for his new gun (as a slow person Wiggum gets this when Burns has already left the building). Wiggum goes after Burns to confiscate the gun. He enjoys the opportunity to use his authority to humiliate the most hated person in town, explaining Burns' "What are you so happy about?" line. Wiggum is so clumsy in handling guns that he accidentally shoots Burns while trying to grab the gun from him. Although it was just an accident, Wiggum still needs to cover it up to make sure his incompetency won't cost him his job. To get rid of the gun quickly he tosses it to the nearest parked car through the open window and notices Maggie with a lollipop. Perhaps Maggie drops her lollipop while trying to pick up the gun so they both end up under the seat. After Burns has collapsed on the sundial, Wiggum does the "It's a mask!" thing to make sure Burns is unconscious. The letters W and S could stand for "Wiggum [is] Shooter". Part 2 Wiggum gradually improvises a plan while pretending to investigate the shooting. He first tries to frame Smithers as the shooter, but Smithers turns out to have an alibi. Same thing happens with all the suspects that Lisa suggests. Wiggum realises that the wisest thing is to frame someone who can't possibly have an alibi, the only other person who actually was there - Maggie. Better yet, as a baby she can't tell her own version of what happened (or remember it afterwards when she grows up), and she can't be charged so there won't be any trial either. When supposedly interrogating Maggie and Santa's Little Helper as witnesses, Wiggum plucks one of Maggie's eyelashes to plant it later as evidence. The Twin Peaks dream gives him an idea where to plant it, so he pretends to find it on Burns' suit. However the DNA result only narrows the suspects down to the Simpson family. Then Mr. Burns wakes up and says "Homer Simpson". Because of the Simpson DNA it would now look really weird if Wiggum didn't investigate Homer, so he has to. He also has to arrest Homer after his fingerprints are found from the gun (we may assume they got there in the way Lisa describes). Wiggum knows that Burns could get his memory back any moment and tell the truth, so it's more urgent for Wiggum to get to the hospital to have a private conversation with Burns than to interrogate Homer. Wiggum purposely causes an accident at the Krusty Burger drive-through so that Homer gets a chance to escape while Wiggum hurts his arm (or pretends to hurt it) and is taken to the hospital as a patient. While the whole police force (and the town in general) is busy chasing Homer, Wiggum sneaks to Burns' room. They make a deal that Burns will identify Maggie as the shooter in exchange for Wiggum's services. The fight over the lollipop could be either Wiggum's or Burns' idea (or it really happened but was irrelevant). Wiggum can't be sure whether Burns will keep his promise, so when Homer attacks Burns, Wiggum intentionally lets Homer to grab his gun in the hope that Homer would shoot Burns dead. It doesn't happen, but Burns keeps his end of the deal anyway and tells the Maggie story. After this Burns can be a lot more shameless in his crimes because he knows that the Springfield police won't ever act against him. This explains why Burns tries to assassinate Abe Simpson in broad daylight in the later Flying Hellfish episode without having any consequences. (Sorry for the long post. I put way too much thought into this.)
@@TheRealJims Thanks again! This would obviously be really frustrating as the official solution because Wiggum contributes so little to the first part but it makes a pretty fun fan theory because of his heavy involvement in the second part. So many things can get completely different meaning if the main investigator is dishonest. I also noticed that when Smithers announces the reward in front of tv cameras Wiggum has his arm in a sling and bandages on his head, but when the crowd slightly later rushes to the hospital his bandages are all gone and he acts as if he wasn't really injured. Continuity error or a hidden clue?
I've said it almost every time, human memory is deeply flawed. If after a trauma that clearly induced some level of brain damage (only saying Homer Simpson) he only remembered Maggie was there and his brain piced together the fragments
I was wondering that too, but on top of that, wondering: how could the plan be executed in a way that whoever pulled the trigger timed everything right? The main thing would be avoiding Marge, who was in the parking lot twice
Honestly the idea of Mr Burns only remembering Homers name (and who he is) while hes in costume is nothing short of hysterical. I seriously wish there was a scene where Homer was dressed as Krusty or something where Mr Burns just casually says hello to Homer.
There is something crucial that supports Homer Theory... and that is in my opinion something most other explanations fails to cover, except for the Maggie explanations. That is the fact that Homer tries to kill Burns again. I mean.... Burns survived the shooting. But he was still an asshole, the town was still pissed, Santa's little helper was still injured, the school was still indebted.... every character who wanted him dead still had their motivations for wanting him dead, and now he was more vulnerable than ever. But nobody went to th hospital to finish the job. Is excusable for Maggie, being just a baby, and despite some ambiguous expressions in the end, it was still kind of an accident. But if it was Abe, then why not finish the job? If it was Lisa, why not finish the job? If it was Bart, why not finish the job? Well, Homer went there to finish the job. He was going to kill Mr. Burns, and for the exact same reason as before, he was still angry about the name thing, his rage didn't go away. That's what I expect for the shooter, to not loose their motivation overnight when Burns was still alive and the problem was still going.
@@SonofMrPeanut Not only that, but the reason why the revolver was in the car could have just been that it went flying when Burns fell down, with it landing on the car while Burns got up and struggled out of the parking lot.
*Gasps* The condom dispenser! It's so perfect! It distracts the audience's attention in the Who REALLY Shot Mr. Burns Finale by being a sight gag, and the deed mocks Mr. Burns because he is "as impotent as a Nevada boxing commission." Now what kind of condoms would pack enough of a wollop to force Maggie's hands?...
Mr. Burns confused Maggie with "Krusty." Both had blue bow ties (Krusty --> neck, Maggie --> hair). Both had red circles on them (Krusty --> nose, Maggie --> pacifier). Mr. Burns is blind, saw colors and shapes, and that is why this theory works.
Probably. He most likely rewatched the episode specifically to get all the facts right. This is not the only time he did this with this miniseries either. Marge Gets a Job led into the Marge theory.
I think the "I had a damn good reason" line is protesting his innocence. Lisa says it's some lunatic who does it for no reason, everyone looks at him, Homer says he couldn't have done it because he DID have a reason.
I am glad to watch everything you put out, it’s been very entertaining sir. Also a difference between homer and krusty you missed is that their mouths are different. Krusty has an extra circle hump at the ends of his mouth. At 3:43 the nose, eye wrinkles, and how homers mouth is drawn are the dead giveaways.
Mr. TheRealJims, this series has been a fantastic exploration of possibilities within the realm of an already concrete canon. You have changed my mind from 'Maggie did it' to 'Maggie did it...or did she?' That is a hard task. This episode had a profound impact on me as a child. So profound, that in fact, I am deathly afraid of sundials. But if you need material for a new Simpsons mystery, I humbly present to you this lore breaking discovery. In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is a magic xylophone, or something? Ha ha, boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
Very very very interesting. I have no noticed the krusty character design differences at the end. I am definitely going to re-watch it. I had different explanation for homer shooting burns a few years ago. - Burns recognizes homer but cannot remember his name, - "oh its you" is him referring to Homer but cannot remember his name - When he wakes up from the coma, all he can remember is the bizzare rantings of the unidentified assailant who attacked him in his office - He pins it on maggie as revenge bobo - or perhaps as in hope that police lock up maggie and its like some bizzare twist on the "do it for her" I think the only weakness of your narrative is Burns wanting blackmail krusty. Within the same season burns has already bribed krusty in a way that MOVED HIM TO A BIG HOUSE! As ever keep up the amazing work!
That's really interesting how they drew krusty like homer at that part. Very bizarre, how they seem to be consistent with separating them most of the time. One problem however, is that Ned Flanders is standing next to homer at the time. Remember, ned is the only person in town who DID easily recognise homer in the krusty makeup, and so likely wouldve seen through the disguise in this episode too, especially since he's standing so close.
I can't believe I missed this one. The earlier ones are what got me into this channel in the first place. The Homer argument was flawless. Really well put together :)
It should also be mentioned that Homer is the one simpson with the most animosity toward Burns. Even before it was revealed, he was responsible for him losing his mother. Burns is just a bad boss Burns has also tried to take away his wife and son from him, so I think there's more to Homer's motivation than just Burns not remembering his name
I've always liked these alternate theories on your Simpsons Mysteries series, and I hope we get more Simpsons Mysteries videos. Great job as always Jim.
To me, a key question we need to ask is "What does Mr. Burns get out of accusing Maggie if he doesn't think that she shot him?" I don't think he has anything to gain, but it does hurt some people: Homer and Marge. Burns has had a mixed history with Marge, both positive and negative, but his interactions with Homer have been almost exclusively negative. In Burns "Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk", Burns declares a slow vengeance on Homer, and in "And Maggie Makes Three", it is shown that Homer keeps all of the photos of Maggie in his office at work, to motivate him to keep working there. Both Burns and Smithers has been in and out of that office countless times in the series, so they would know both who Maggie is and how Homer feels about her. I believe that Burns is deliberately harnessing Homer by pretending to forget his name as a small form of petty revenge, choose to accuse Maggie to complete his revenge on Homer. What would be worse for Homer than to continually suffer Burns' petty harassment at the power plant while the person he is doing it for is in jail because of something Homer did? Even if Homer decides to confess, he still has to goto jail, and Burns can claim he was confused due the coma, so Burns loses nothing either way. A prefect scheme for a supervillain.
I have one problem that Bart would’ve never helped Homer dress up as Krusty if he knew he was going to attack Mr. Burns because Krusty is his Idol and he already helped prove his innocence in Krusty gets busted
True but 1. They were planning on making sure Burns was killed and not still alive. And 2. Bart was among the Simpsons at the sundial when Burns collapsed on it so it would at least make sense as to why he was there, whereas Lisa and Grandpa weren't (Before Burns was shot, Marge asked "Where's Homer, and Bart, and Lisa, and Grandpa?" so it makes sense).
This is the content I'm here for. Absolutely love these Simpsons Mysteries. So much more to uncover and you put so much effort in. Love it. Keep it up!
Just rewatched all these videos and I’ve got to say they are incredibly fun theories! For me I would rank the suspects from best to worst as Marge, Grandpa, Lisa, Bart and Homer I would say is the least plausible but honestly they’re all enjoyable thought experiments. Surprised Santa’s Little Helper didn’t get a video though
Personally, I still think it could be anyone. Hear me out. In the official version, the simpson dna got there from Mr. Burns fighting with Maggie for the Candy. That remains the same in every version suggested. With that in mind, Burns could have been shot by anyone and still gotten the Maggie dna on his coat. The reason why he would cover varies, but there is also the possibility that Maggie was the last person he saw after getting shot, making so in his old age and injured state, he assumed that she was the one at fault.
Damn, you are absolutely KILLING it lately. My favourite channel. It's so good to see other people who are just as passionate about The Simpsons as myself.
I'd pick as my "Who REALLY Shot Mr. Burns?" Larry Burns, his long lost son, because there's this obscure bit of Simpsons ancillary canon that listed Burns as a distant relative of the Simpsons so it's possible Larry's DNA could've come up as Simpsons when sequenced, and he shot him for completely unrelated inheritance and Burns didn't out him cause he's his son
No joke, I was actually rewatching the Who Really Shot Mr Burns quintology (now sextilogy) only an hour or so before this video was published. Still, though, I can't help but feel as if the real killer might have just slipped through our grasps yet again. Maybe the real culprit is the system Mr Burns grew up in, the economic and cultural landscape that made him into the man he was at the moment of his shooting. Maybe if Mr Burns hadn't been so incentivised to destroy Springfield in the pursuit of the almighty dollar and his own jollies, he wouldn't have been shot. Perhaps, just perhaps, we all, as a society, shot Mr Burns.
Those are mysteries i´d like to see... - Has Homer ever had sex with another character (in canon)? (Mindy? Laurleen Lumpkin?) - Has Marge ever had sex with another character (in canon)? (Jacques? Maybe Ruth the neighbour?) - Whatever happened to Utter the German student? - What really made Mona Simpson a runaway? And for simpson stories - Lindsey Nagel - Lu Anne VanHouten - Ms Hoover
I've loved this channel and these videos for a very very long time. One of my favourite things is seeing one of the notifications because your videos are always interesting and help to calm me if I'm stressed. Can't wait to see more from you!
Oh wow, I just discovered this series and just watched it all. I used to watch the Simpsons as a kid, not so much as an adult that, you know, understands good writing, and I never realized this episode was so well written. I have to go rewatch it now
To summarize, here's why Mr. Burns accuses Maggie for each alternative solution: Marge: Cover-up Lisa: Disguise Abe: Burns can't talk about the painting fiasco. Bart: Burns respects Bart Homer: Blackmailing Krusty wouldn't benefit Burns.
I love Simpsons Mysteries. I hope this isn’t *really* the end of this particular topic in the series. Come on, there’s gotta be more suspects outside the family. What about Flanders??
Dude i cant believe how well thiught out all these are. I start out like nah thats dumb, then thinking hmm maybe theres a slim chance, to finally omg that has to be it! Great work!
binged watched all of these today. great videos and i loved all the analysis that went into these amazing theories. i think the grandpa simpson theory might be my favorite followed by marge.
That line where Homer says he shot Mr. Burns has always confused me. That episode has almost zero connection to Who Shot Mr. Burns and that line is just said and never elaborated on it's so weird that it exists but hey I guess it proves this theory.
Homer clearly used his makeup shotgun, thats how he managed to get his makeup on so fast.
Yes, he finally figured how to set it to something other than "whore."
"Homer, you've got it set on clown!"
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer It's still pretty neat
Women will like what I tell ‘em to like
Is that where the second gun shot came from? Lol
That's right. Mr. Burns was ACTUALLY shot by you, the fans.
YES, hope they are proud of themselves!!
The J.K. Rowling answer.
@@gamingguru2k6 nah that'd be he's black and gay now
I shouted out "who shot Mr. Burns" when, after all, it was you and me.
I put my blame on you, THE VIEWERS!
For the intro, I was going to have Sideshow BOB strangle Mr. Snrub to death, but the The Simpsons didn't reply back with the animation work in time. Oh well.
Don't worry it was almost as surreal as Twin Peaks. Almost...
Outstanding, as usual! It reminded me of Blair Witch! What about videos of the other suspects? Willie, Tito Puente, Skinner, Smithers, Moe and Barney?
Wait, so is this Part 6?
They think they’re so better than everyone
Sideshow BOB,
Like Killer BOB?
In 1993 when Bart became a mascot for Nestle Butterfingers. They did a contest called "who stole Bart's Butterfinger?". It was nationwide. People were encouraged to find out who from the suspects... Homer, Mr Burns, and Krusty were among the line of suspects... There was even a winner's cash prize of 50000$$ . It turned out the criminal was Krusty disguised as Homer. Two years later in 1995. Season 7 opened with Mr. Burns being shot by Homer disguised as Krusty.
Brilliant.
There's a simpler way to explain why Burns accuses Maggy: He really thought she shot him. He was so focused in the baby's candy, struggling her for it, that never saw Homer (or Marge or Bart) approaching from behind.
During the struggle his pistol fell, but outside the car instead of inside. The alternative attacker could get it and shot Burns while the old man was still fighting Maggy, who is the last thing he sees before collapsing, so the half-conscious victim assummed she do it somehow.
The attacker panicked, throwing the gun in the open car before fleeing. Luckly for him/her, his identity wasn't revealed.
The problem with the Simpson's DNA is easy to solve too: The eyelash on Burn's suit was Homer's, stuck on the clothes after he assaulted him in burn's Office a day or two ago. Or maybe it came from different interaction.
Or alternatively the eyelash is Maggie's, from the struggle
The actual shooter coming from behind is something I thought of but wasn't he shot from the front? I don't think it would be possible for that to happen without Burns noticing.
*Luckily for them, their identity wasn't revealed. Use this to fix your comment
The eyelash could have come from any simpson during any close quarters interaction.
Most likely Homer because he's the only person who dares get up in Burn's personal space.
But it's weak evidence of any shooting.
I go home covered in hair, spit, boogers, and God knows what else from the toddlers I look after...Their DNA on my shirt would not be amble evidence to convict their parents of any foul play if my body turned up dead. The DNA evidence, even from Maggie, would be WEAK sauce.
I blame this on the writers being dumb though.
Or he could have been knocked unconscious either by his head hitting the ground or Homer punching him before he took the gun. Homer is a massive man at around 6'3" and 250+ pounds or so the man can pack a punch and has been shown to be far from a slouch in hand to hand combat before. I have no doubt that he'd be able to knock out Mr. Burns which in turn would likely cause a small lapse of memory, you tend to not remember between the full 2 hours to a few minutes minutes before you got knocked out depending on how bad it is.
The real Krusty's beardline is also differently shaped.
Please don't stop doing Simpsons mysteries, they're fantastic!
It's a who shot Mr. Burns finale, not a Simpsons Mysteries finale
I agree!
@@R0-83-RT u sure
Sebastian Fitzptraick yeah they are
@@de132 19:51 pretty much proves my point, the fact that TheRealJims emphasized the who shot Mr. Burns case specifically.
at 20:13 TheRealJims even says he will make new Simpsons mysteries
I think the flashback to the gun under the seat actually is necessary. Krusty wears gloves, as does Homer in his Krusty costume. Therefore we would need an explanation for why the gun has Homer’s fingerprints.
It’s always a possibility he forgot the gloves, but their explanation works.
Great video.
It'd be extra hilarious of Homer did go through this elaborate plan to dress up as Krusty, gloves and all, only to later screw up by accidentally getting his fingerprints on the gun he left in his car.
But Homer’s gloves are all tattered and have holes at the tips of some fingers - check the still at 13:00.
Nice! I forgot about the gloves in the Krusty costume. Don't know how I missed that one!
@@floyd2386 That's awesome! Love the idea of Homer bungling the fingerprints too.
@@BenCol That's his left hand. Searching for another picture from this scene, his right only has his pinky exposed, however images from other scenes in Homie the Clown show him wearing fully intact gloves with no fingers exposed.. Also 13:30 shows prints from 3 of Homer's fingers.
Who didn't shoot Mr Burns at this point
I didn't, I stabbed him in the back 17 times
Anyone who isn’t a simpson
@@dalegarvey326 I'm referencing Lisa's Wedding
That little wiener kid Milhouse
Burns himself I guess, no wait that's the next theory
Also, when Homer is dressed up like Krusty, you can see when the third hair spike on the top of his head is tilted, which means it’s most likely a prop, not put on correctly.
Also, special thanks to the awesome PIEGUYRULZ for doing some very last-second consulting for this video. It was very kind of him to take some time to help me out with this project. :)
Who is that?
What kind of insight did he provide?
@@Mentally_Will I sent him the intro footage in advance, seeking feedback on whether this experimental opening works or is even a good idea.
@@TheRealJims Well that was cool of him to help you out. I just found myself thinking that you two interacting seemed so odd and yet it made so much sense.
Mona Simpsons shot Mr Burns. Mona Simpsons was once accused for attempted murder of Mr Burns. She keeps a eye on Springfield and her worst enemy Mr Burns. She knows those hippie people and they must had told her about Mr Burns. She came back to stop Mr Burns like what she had done in the past. Mona is a hippie and was trying to stop his oil mining and the doom shield that was blocking the sun.
I never noticed Homer in his Krusty disguise! Mind blown
The America's Most Wanted special knew more than it was letting on.
And this is why you reviewed Homie the Clown. Gotta love subtle foreshadowing.
The foreshadowing goes even further than this. There's a visual reference to the Homer-as-Krusty theory at the end of Part 4 of this series.
*"Oh, it's you."* Burns recognized his attacker. Does Burns ever acknowledge Krusty before this episode?
@@xtzyshuadog he said that to maggie, who was also at the scene
The real shooter was the friends we made along the way
Cynthia Newcastle and that’s all that matters
Marge was the saddest
Lisa was the most shocking
Abe was the most lore heavy
Bart was the funniest
Homer was the most canonical
Maggie did it
@@razkable No, it was actually
Moe's bar rag
@@DommbuscusNah, it was Peter Griffin
It was clearly Bob Ross looking for revenge after Mr Burns destroyed his prized painting.
This makes too much sense
I just watched this scene again and noticed after Marge says "everyone in town's a suspect" there's a pan of people's close-up faces, and every character is drawn with their normal amount of detail, besides Krusty. Barney, Moe and Willie all still have wrinkles under their eyes. When Chief Wiggum says "It's a mask!", Krusty-Homer is standing directly behind him.
I can't believe the first video was made almost 5 years ago.
And the intro is still fire.
Since you encouraged us to share more crazy fan theories, here's mine: Mr. Burns was actually shot by... Chief Wiggum! (I know I'm not the first person who has thought of this, but I have more.)
The simplest explanation to why Burns would accuse Maggie instead of naming the real shooter is that the shooter had already visited Burns in the hospital and negotiated a secret deal with him. So the shooter is either someone who was seen visiting Burns' hospital room alone after Burns recovered (Dr Nick, Homer) or someone who could have an unrestricted access there (members of the police force or the hospital staff). From these people, Chief Wiggum is the only one who could offer something so valuable to Burns that Burns would have a reason to accept the deal and let the person who shot him walk free. Burns commits a lot of crimes himself (and would probably commit more if there wasn't a risk of getting caught), so having the police chief permanently in his pocket would be extremely beneficial for him.
The obvious advantage of the Wiggum theory is that we can ignore all the forensic evidence such as the Simpson DNA because Wiggum could have simply planted them during his "investigation" to protect himself. Also, a lot of Wiggum's actions in the story get new levels of hidden brilliance. Here's how I think it went:
Part 1
After the town hall meeting Wiggum realises that Burns doesn't have a license for his new gun (as a slow person Wiggum gets this when Burns has already left the building). Wiggum goes after Burns to confiscate the gun. He enjoys the opportunity to use his authority to humiliate the most hated person in town, explaining Burns' "What are you so happy about?" line. Wiggum is so clumsy in handling guns that he accidentally shoots Burns while trying to grab the gun from him. Although it was just an accident, Wiggum still needs to cover it up to make sure his incompetency won't cost him his job. To get rid of the gun quickly he tosses it to the nearest parked car through the open window and notices Maggie with a lollipop. Perhaps Maggie drops her lollipop while trying to pick up the gun so they both end up under the seat.
After Burns has collapsed on the sundial, Wiggum does the "It's a mask!" thing to make sure Burns is unconscious. The letters W and S could stand for "Wiggum [is] Shooter".
Part 2
Wiggum gradually improvises a plan while pretending to investigate the shooting. He first tries to frame Smithers as the shooter, but Smithers turns out to have an alibi. Same thing happens with all the suspects that Lisa suggests. Wiggum realises that the wisest thing is to frame someone who can't possibly have an alibi, the only other person who actually was there - Maggie. Better yet, as a baby she can't tell her own version of what happened (or remember it afterwards when she grows up), and she can't be charged so there won't be any trial either. When supposedly interrogating Maggie and Santa's Little Helper as witnesses, Wiggum plucks one of Maggie's eyelashes to plant it later as evidence. The Twin Peaks dream gives him an idea where to plant it, so he pretends to find it on Burns' suit. However the DNA result only narrows the suspects down to the Simpson family.
Then Mr. Burns wakes up and says "Homer Simpson". Because of the Simpson DNA it would now look really weird if Wiggum didn't investigate Homer, so he has to. He also has to arrest Homer after his fingerprints are found from the gun (we may assume they got there in the way Lisa describes). Wiggum knows that Burns could get his memory back any moment and tell the truth, so it's more urgent for Wiggum to get to the hospital to have a private conversation with Burns than to interrogate Homer. Wiggum purposely causes an accident at the Krusty Burger drive-through so that Homer gets a chance to escape while Wiggum hurts his arm (or pretends to hurt it) and is taken to the hospital as a patient. While the whole police force (and the town in general) is busy chasing Homer, Wiggum sneaks to Burns' room. They make a deal that Burns will identify Maggie as the shooter in exchange for Wiggum's services. The fight over the lollipop could be either Wiggum's or Burns' idea (or it really happened but was irrelevant).
Wiggum can't be sure whether Burns will keep his promise, so when Homer attacks Burns, Wiggum intentionally lets Homer to grab his gun in the hope that Homer would shoot Burns dead. It doesn't happen, but Burns keeps his end of the deal anyway and tells the Maggie story. After this Burns can be a lot more shameless in his crimes because he knows that the Springfield police won't ever act against him. This explains why Burns tries to assassinate Abe Simpson in broad daylight in the later Flying Hellfish episode without having any consequences.
(Sorry for the long post. I put way too much thought into this.)
Nice theory! The Wiggum solution would work well, especially with Burns covering up for the real shooter
@@TheRealJims Thanks again! This would obviously be really frustrating as the official solution because Wiggum contributes so little to the first part but it makes a pretty fun fan theory because of his heavy involvement in the second part. So many things can get completely different meaning if the main investigator is dishonest.
I also noticed that when Smithers announces the reward in front of tv cameras Wiggum has his arm in a sling and bandages on his head, but when the crowd slightly later rushes to the hospital his bandages are all gone and he acts as if he wasn't really injured. Continuity error or a hidden clue?
video when? @@TheRealJims
Or he wore the costume clothing under his usual clothing. I've done this myself as an actress
Dang, why didn't I think of that? Would totally make the clothes change much quicker
@@TheRealJims VIDEO LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
Including clown costumes?
Pulling a Superman?
Yoseqlo Yoseloq well nooooo
I've said it almost every time, human memory is deeply flawed. If after a trauma that clearly induced some level of brain damage (only saying Homer Simpson) he only remembered Maggie was there and his brain piced together the fragments
What if the Simpsons DNA was just on the suit from when Homer tried manhandling Burns, and it was someone else entirely?
I was wondering that too, but on top of that, wondering: how could the plan be executed in a way that whoever pulled the trigger timed everything right? The main thing would be avoiding Marge, who was in the parking lot twice
Agree. DNA isnt fool proof
Also he was wrestling with Maggie sitting in the simpsons car, it could have come from the chair or Maggie
Honestly the idea of Mr Burns only remembering Homers name (and who he is) while hes in costume is nothing short of hysterical. I seriously wish there was a scene where Homer was dressed as Krusty or something where Mr Burns just casually says hello to Homer.
There is something crucial that supports Homer Theory... and that is in my opinion something most other explanations fails to cover, except for the Maggie explanations. That is the fact that Homer tries to kill Burns again.
I mean.... Burns survived the shooting. But he was still an asshole, the town was still pissed, Santa's little helper was still injured, the school was still indebted.... every character who wanted him dead still had their motivations for wanting him dead, and now he was more vulnerable than ever. But nobody went to th hospital to finish the job. Is excusable for Maggie, being just a baby, and despite some ambiguous expressions in the end, it was still kind of an accident. But if it was Abe, then why not finish the job? If it was Lisa, why not finish the job? If it was Bart, why not finish the job?
Well, Homer went there to finish the job. He was going to kill Mr. Burns, and for the exact same reason as before, he was still angry about the name thing, his rage didn't go away. That's what I expect for the shooter, to not loose their motivation overnight when Burns was still alive and the problem was still going.
Secret final twist: Mr. Burns shot himself and framed Maggie Simpson.
Because of Bobo...
It makes sense!
I could see Mr. Burns' weak grip leading to an impressively bad misfire. He just ends up blaming the baby to save face.
@@SonofMrPeanut Not only that, but the reason why the revolver was in the car could have just been that it went flying when Burns fell down, with it landing on the car while Burns got up and struggled out of the parking lot.
Final final twist:
He never even got shot.
Move aside end game. This the real climax of the century.
That's wht she said! ... I'll see myself out.
Mona Simpsons did it
*"Oh, it's you."* Burns recognized his attacker before being shot. *So was there any direct interaction between Krusty and Burns before this episode?*
@@xtzyshuadog When Bart becomes Burns heir, they watch an episode of Itchy & Scratchy together so Burns has seen Krusty at least once on tv.
@@xtzyshuadog with krusty being a TV celebrity, its hard to say Burns didn't know him from that
**shows picture of condom dispenser**
"So if people did get another layer of enjoyment out of Who Shot Mr Burns..."
I see what you did there.
*Gasps* The condom dispenser! It's so perfect! It distracts the audience's attention in the Who REALLY Shot Mr. Burns Finale by being a sight gag, and the deed mocks Mr. Burns because he is "as impotent as a Nevada boxing commission." Now what kind of condoms would pack enough of a wollop to force Maggie's hands?...
Oh sure, you claim this is the finale, but I bet you'll be back in a year claiming it was Herb Powell or something...
That's right, Mr Burns was actually shot by Homer's cousin who shoots birds at the airport
no it was wayon smithers sr,s ghost
It was moleman
im well versed in ace attorney knowledge. it was clearly your profile picture
How can you guys not know that it is Mona Simpsons. Mona Simpsons did it.
8:50 did you consider the fact that Homer might have joined the struggle just to gain the Lolipop?
This made me laugh. That would be such a Homer thing to do.
Mr. Burns confused Maggie with "Krusty."
Both had blue bow ties (Krusty --> neck, Maggie --> hair).
Both had red circles on them (Krusty --> nose, Maggie --> pacifier).
Mr. Burns is blind, saw colors and shapes, and that is why this theory works.
Or he saw Maggie in the car when homer shot him he saw Maggie and rember seeing maggie
Mr. Burns is blind (literally can't see, so uhhh just pick the baby, lol)
Was the Homer the clown video just a setup for this video?
*start simpsons mysteries intro
Probably. He most likely rewatched the episode specifically to get all the facts right.
This is not the only time he did this with this miniseries either. Marge Gets a Job led into the Marge theory.
I really like this sense of continuity between videos
So that's why you did Homie the Clown…
The cliffhanger of this season finale bugged me that whole summer
Disobedient One who shot mr burns?
I think the "I had a damn good reason" line is protesting his innocence. Lisa says it's some lunatic who does it for no reason, everyone looks at him, Homer says he couldn't have done it because he DID have a reason.
Oh i missed Simpsons Mysteries. How about doing the next one on the Simpsons family tree?
At the burns’ suit part I was half-expecting/hoping Lisa’s eyes to turn white and her to let out an extended, ungodly scream.
"Chief Wiggum, Don't eat the clues.""this Suits Burns better"
Dude wtf
Are you alright?
Watching/reading too many Creepypastas there?
No, lol I was referencing the part that happens later in the actual scene they’re parodying from Twin Peaks.
*Reference* ------>
*Your Heads*
I am glad to watch everything you put out, it’s been very entertaining sir.
Also a difference between homer and krusty you missed is that their mouths are different. Krusty has an extra circle hump at the ends of his mouth. At 3:43 the nose, eye wrinkles, and how homers mouth is drawn are the dead giveaways.
Mr. TheRealJims, this series has been a fantastic exploration of possibilities within the realm of an already concrete canon. You have changed my mind from 'Maggie did it' to 'Maggie did it...or did she?' That is a hard task. This episode had a profound impact on me as a child. So profound, that in fact, I am deathly afraid of sundials. But if you need material for a new Simpsons mystery, I humbly present to you this lore breaking discovery.
In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is a magic xylophone, or something? Ha ha, boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
Dude, we all know the answer to this one- A Wizard did it!
Can't say I expected this. That's a damn good video series you got here in TheRealJims. And damn fine cherry pie.
That's right, Mr. Burns was actually shot by his tailor.
I think his doctor shot him.
Burns’ suit... it all makes sense now.
You guessed it, Frank Stallone!
Very very very interesting. I have no noticed the krusty character design differences at the end. I am definitely going to re-watch it. I had different explanation for homer shooting burns a few years ago.
- Burns recognizes homer but cannot remember his name,
- "oh its you" is him referring to Homer but cannot remember his name
- When he wakes up from the coma, all he can remember is the bizzare rantings of the unidentified assailant who attacked him in his office
- He pins it on maggie as revenge bobo
- or perhaps as in hope that police lock up maggie and its like some bizzare twist on the "do it for her"
I think the only weakness of your narrative is Burns wanting blackmail krusty. Within the same season burns has already bribed krusty in a way that MOVED HIM TO A BIG HOUSE!
As ever keep up the amazing work!
dude you are literally my favourite channel on youtube and rekindled my interest in this show. I cannot overstate how much I love these videos.
I still stand by the theory that it was the ghost of Superdude that shot Burns.
That's really interesting how they drew krusty like homer at that part. Very bizarre, how they seem to be consistent with separating them most of the time. One problem however, is that Ned Flanders is standing next to homer at the time. Remember, ned is the only person in town who DID easily recognise homer in the krusty makeup, and so likely wouldve seen through the disguise in this episode too, especially since he's standing so close.
Woah
well, what if Ned didnt think much about it? specially when somebody just got shot
Flanders is clearly Homer's accomplice - just look at their knowing side-eyes :P
That UA-cam series you like is coming back in style
I can't believe I missed this one. The earlier ones are what got me into this channel in the first place.
The Homer argument was flawless. Really well put together :)
It should also be mentioned that Homer is the one simpson with the most animosity toward Burns. Even before it was revealed, he was responsible for him losing his mother. Burns is just a bad boss
Burns has also tried to take away his wife and son from him, so I think there's more to Homer's motivation than just Burns not remembering his name
I was just watching part 1 a few hours ago. Thank you, I love Simpsons mysteries.
When I read "That's right", my mind immediately filled in "I'm a surgeon!"
These are my favorite of the Mystery videos! Especially since you made a great case for Marge being the shooter! Keep up the great work Jim!
Honestly these videos are great for thinking about mystery stories as a whole, I can say I've learned alot and was greatly entertained along the way.
I've always liked these alternate theories on your Simpsons Mysteries series, and I hope we get more Simpsons Mysteries videos. Great job as always Jim.
To me, a key question we need to ask is "What does Mr. Burns get out of accusing Maggie if he doesn't think that she shot him?" I don't think he has anything to gain, but it does hurt some people: Homer and Marge. Burns has had a mixed history with Marge, both positive and negative, but his interactions with Homer have been almost exclusively negative. In Burns "Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk", Burns declares a slow vengeance on Homer, and in "And Maggie Makes Three", it is shown that Homer keeps all of the photos of Maggie in his office at work, to motivate him to keep working there. Both Burns and Smithers has been in and out of that office countless times in the series, so they would know both who Maggie is and how Homer feels about her. I believe that Burns is deliberately harnessing Homer by pretending to forget his name as a small form of petty revenge, choose to accuse Maggie to complete his revenge on Homer. What would be worse for Homer than to continually suffer Burns' petty harassment at the power plant while the person he is doing it for is in jail because of something Homer did? Even if Homer decides to confess, he still has to goto jail, and Burns can claim he was confused due the coma, so Burns loses nothing either way. A prefect scheme for a supervillain.
I have one problem that Bart would’ve never helped Homer dress up as Krusty if he knew he was going to attack Mr. Burns because Krusty is his Idol and he already helped prove his innocence in Krusty gets busted
True but 1. They were planning on making sure Burns was killed and not still alive. And 2. Bart was among the Simpsons at the sundial when Burns collapsed on it so it would at least make sense as to why he was there, whereas Lisa and Grandpa weren't (Before Burns was shot, Marge asked "Where's Homer, and Bart, and Lisa, and Grandpa?" so it makes sense).
Animation team: Makes animation error
Simpsons community: Devises entire theory about why Homer was disguised as Krusty
Been following this series for years and very content with the solution, looking forward to your next videos always
Ok. Wasn’t expecting a Krusty theory but damn does it work!!!
A 20 minute Real Jim’s video? Now this does put a smile on my face...
This is the content I'm here for. Absolutely love these Simpsons Mysteries. So much more to uncover and you put so much effort in. Love it. Keep it up!
Gotta wait til my lunch break but I can't wait to watch! Thanks for what I know will be an awesome video Jims! !
We're through the looking glass, people
I love Jims vids makes my day better seeing one pop up
Alternatively, the sun-dial clue might be a hint to the start time of the Krusty show. Which he should know from Bart's time as his heir
Just rewatched all these videos and I’ve got to say they are incredibly fun theories! For me I would rank the suspects from best to worst as Marge, Grandpa, Lisa, Bart and Homer I would say is the least plausible but honestly they’re all enjoyable thought experiments. Surprised Santa’s Little Helper didn’t get a video though
Personally, I still think it could be anyone. Hear me out. In the official version, the simpson dna got there from Mr. Burns fighting with Maggie for the Candy. That remains the same in every version suggested. With that in mind, Burns could have been shot by anyone and still gotten the Maggie dna on his coat. The reason why he would cover varies, but there is also the possibility that Maggie was the last person he saw after getting shot, making so in his old age and injured state, he assumed that she was the one at fault.
I love your videos, man. Thanks for what you do
The work you put into this series is amazing , your serious one of the most creative youtubers I’ve ever watched !
Damn, you are absolutely KILLING it lately. My favourite channel. It's so good to see other people who are just as passionate about The Simpsons as myself.
I'd pick as my "Who REALLY Shot Mr. Burns?" Larry Burns, his long lost son, because there's this obscure bit of Simpsons ancillary canon that listed Burns as a distant relative of the Simpsons so it's possible Larry's DNA could've come up as Simpsons when sequenced, and he shot him for completely unrelated inheritance and Burns didn't out him cause he's his son
No joke, I was actually rewatching the Who Really Shot Mr Burns quintology (now sextilogy) only an hour or so before this video was published.
Still, though, I can't help but feel as if the real killer might have just slipped through our grasps yet again. Maybe the real culprit is the system Mr Burns grew up in, the economic and cultural landscape that made him into the man he was at the moment of his shooting. Maybe if Mr Burns hadn't been so incentivised to destroy Springfield in the pursuit of the almighty dollar and his own jollies, he wouldn't have been shot.
Perhaps, just perhaps, we all, as a society, shot Mr Burns.
Hmm, is that what the Rolling Stones meant with their line about the Kennedys?
I wasn't born when Mr Burns was shot, can I please be absolved of blame?
@Disobedient One Well, that's something to look forward to at least. Or...backward to?
*Attempted* killer. (Do they give a Nobel prize for *attempted* chemistry?)
DarthVaderReviews we live in a society
May I say, this is the best Simpson's Fan Site on UA-cam? Your work is so enticing I look forward to seeing every one.
I saw this in my recommended and proceeded to watch all 5 other videos. Took me all night. 100% worth it, so quality. Please make more mystery videos!
Those are mysteries i´d like to see...
- Has Homer ever had sex with another character (in canon)? (Mindy? Laurleen Lumpkin?)
- Has Marge ever had sex with another character (in canon)? (Jacques? Maybe Ruth the neighbour?)
- Whatever happened to Utter the German student?
- What really made Mona Simpson a runaway?
And for simpson stories
- Lindsey Nagel
- Lu Anne VanHouten
- Ms Hoover
Great ideas !
Ve just vant closure!
@@Wolf_Larsen You might just say we ate Uter and he's in our stomachs! *evil laugh*
@@Super_Mario128 There's a little Uter in all of us
the reason uter isn't here is because the voice actors dead
1:04 Was that a hand? Strange, I always pictured you as a bodyless voice.
Thanks for the upload. Gonna watch it tonight after work
I've loved this channel and these videos for a very very long time. One of my favourite things is seeing one of the notifications because your videos are always interesting and help to calm me if I'm stressed. Can't wait to see more from you!
You forgot to mention that in the shot with the Homer-looking Krusty his top tuft looks kinda lopsided as if its actually a toupee
Can't wait for another post finale episode this year.
Really enjoy all your content, the picture by picture format is a very interesting way to avoid video take downs
The intro is incredible I love this so much. Binging this through the q is incredible. thank you
Oh wow, I just discovered this series and just watched it all.
I used to watch the Simpsons as a kid, not so much as an adult that, you know, understands good writing, and I never realized this episode was so well written. I have to go rewatch it now
I’ve been waiting so long for this day to arrive
You are the greatest Simpsons fan, thanks for doing all these videos!
Loved this series and the Marge theory in particular 💛 this channel is one of my favourites, it's unique!
You're a treasure, Jim.
To summarize, here's why Mr. Burns accuses Maggie for each alternative solution:
Marge: Cover-up
Lisa: Disguise
Abe: Burns can't talk about the painting fiasco.
Bart: Burns respects Bart
Homer: Blackmailing Krusty wouldn't benefit Burns.
If I had to rank them from strongest explanation to weakest, I'd say Abe, Lisa, Homer, Marge, Bart
Cheers TRJ, thanks for the fun theories!
This channel is an absolute treasure. I am never dissatisfied with a video.
Hans Moleman: "Didn't this video used to have a different thumbnail?"
Therealjims: "Come on, get up! You've been warned."
Describe it please
I love Simpsons Mysteries. I hope this isn’t *really* the end of this particular topic in the series. Come on, there’s gotta be more suspects outside the family. What about Flanders??
I think Flanders is Homer's accomplice - just look at their knowing side-eyes at each other :P
@@haydenmcqueenie8987 you might be on to something there… *cough* @TheRealJims *cough*
I've never been so excited and happy about a video I had no prior anticipation for
Dude i cant believe how well thiught out all these are. I start out like nah thats dumb, then thinking hmm maybe theres a slim chance, to finally omg that has to be it! Great work!
Ah, so that's why you did "Homie the Clown."
Damn fine video, man!
I love you for doing ANOTHER one of these!
binged watched all of these today. great videos and i loved all the analysis that went into these amazing theories. i think the grandpa simpson theory might be my favorite followed by marge.
That line where Homer says he shot Mr. Burns has always confused me. That episode has almost zero connection to Who Shot Mr. Burns and that line is just said and never elaborated on it's so weird that it exists but hey I guess it proves this theory.
I just started watching Twin Peaks recently so this was good timing.
Loved this series you did and I'm looking forward to the next mystery
I've a sudden urge to watch both episodes and analyse them very carefully.
Wonderful video Jim! :)