Yes, it's one of those tunes that you will get on your poor brain and hum or whistle at all hours 😂 - and the poetry is both beautiful and haunting at the same time 😢
Brother killing brother..All war is terrible, but there is something even more tragic about civil war, wherever it takes place.. I bought this when it first came out...this track always make me shiver
I loved hearing this at the Cropready festival a few years back, the only festival I've been to where there was no 'backstage bar' no matter who you were if you wanted a drink you queued up with the rest, chatting to someone while waiting to get a pint and later they're on stage, you'd never get that at Glastonbury.
A wonderful performance by all concerned. Only those who have tried, understand how difficult this beautiful and haunting song is to sing and play with such feeling....... Thank you.
said it before we all went to Oxford to see our daughter and so had to Cropredy whilst there. great historical village Church and surrounds You must go Imagine the times gone by
perhaps the last true lp and truly folk song in the fairport style. Great live performance by the group for this song written by Ralph McTell which reminds me a lot of a beautiful song by Fabrizio De Andre'. Great line -up post SWARBRICK era
@MrSirDel Yes, I agree 100 %. Did you ever hear Ralph's "original" version? He didn't record it in a studio until much later, but there is a stunning live version, that does that to me - so moving and haunting the way he sings it and his voice. Please feel free to send me a message, if you want more info ;-) I have finally figured out how to play this wonderful song and it's beginning to work really well along with my "singing", but here are many verses to remember LOL
@rothwellss Yes, thank you - it's near the top of my wish list. I have English friends who go to the Cropredy Festival on a regular basis, and who often mention it and recommend it a lot. Så[so] jeg [yaigh] vil komme over der (there) en dag. Hav en go(o)d dag [day(gh)] ;-) PS. So sorry about that slight sync problem btw. Singing here: "And each year when the green corn once agan turns into gold ... lalalala" ( I love that line :o) )
Will Timms could well have been a real person. The Timms family has lived in Cropredy since at least the 1500s. Chances are that Ralph got the name from a gravestone in the churchyard.
Yes, true - it didn't sound nearly as good, when they first played it alongside Ralph in 1987 ( there is a recording of that ;-) ). I am now finally able to play it fairly well on guitar (dropped D). Only 3 chords but they come in various shapes & versions - sounds really good. Still working on the singing, but it's getting better, now that I am able to focus more on it, as the picking works on auto pilot now ;-) Also a long song with lots of lyrics to remember bec. of the rather long lines.
@tutmosesthe3rd I can't disagree with you on that one - one of those songs you get on your brain and begin to hum spontaneously ;-) I have even figured out how to play it now. (guitar)
Ok, thank you - will try that ;-) I also managed to fit in an Em7 - come to think of it ( a special version because of the dropped D tuning : 2(T) 2 2 0 3 0 ).
There were probably three Timms brothers living in Cropredy at the time of the battle: Thomas Timms, b. 10 Dec 1620, Cropredy, d. date unknown. John Timms, b. 1614, Cropredy, d. date unknown. George Timms, b. 1616, Cropredy, d. date unknown. No Will, though.
Great ;-) I just hope, it doesn't harm your cycling skils - we wouldn't want any more victims LOL It's one of those tunes that you really get on your brain, isn't it? - one you will begin humming or whistling, when you least expect it. Yes, good acoustics around Birmingham, it seems ;-)
what a great song
Yes, it's one of those tunes that you will get on your poor brain and hum or whistle at all hours 😂 - and the poetry is both beautiful and haunting at the same time 😢
Brother killing brother..All war is terrible, but there is something even more tragic about civil war, wherever it takes place.. I bought this when it first came out...this track always make me shiver
I loved hearing this at the Cropready festival a few years back, the only festival I've been to where there was no 'backstage bar' no matter who you were if you wanted a drink you queued up with the rest, chatting to someone while waiting to get a pint and later they're on stage, you'd never get that at Glastonbury.
A wonderful performance by all concerned. Only those who have tried, understand how difficult this beautiful and haunting song is to sing and play with such feeling....... Thank you.
said it before we all went to Oxford to see our daughter and so had to Cropredy whilst there. great historical village Church and surrounds You must go Imagine the times gone by
Fairport and McTell,Beautiful.
perhaps the last true lp and truly folk song in the fairport style. Great live performance by the group for this song written by Ralph McTell which reminds me a lot of a beautiful song by Fabrizio De Andre'. Great line -up post SWARBRICK era
Awesome Song - Heard it recently on a Public Radio Station.
It is an amazing song. Went to the village and was so 'in a dream' amazing.
@bickerandrue
Well, I was editing it anyway, so I might as well get it done LOL
Yes, will see what I can do - need to locate it first.
@MrSirDel
Yes, I agree 100 %. Did you ever hear Ralph's "original" version?
He didn't record it in a studio until much later, but there is a stunning live version,
that does that to me - so moving and haunting the way he sings it and his voice.
Please feel free to send me a message, if you want more info ;-)
I have finally figured out how to play this wonderful song and it's beginning to work really
well along with my "singing", but here are many verses to remember LOL
Simon Nicol is a great singer
Yes, that is also the story that I have been told by some Ralph experts ;-)
@rothwellss
Yes, thank you - it's near the top of my wish list. I have English friends who go to the Cropredy Festival on
a regular basis, and who often mention it and recommend it a lot.
Så[so] jeg [yaigh] vil komme over der (there) en dag.
Hav en go(o)d dag [day(gh)] ;-)
PS. So sorry about that slight sync problem btw.
Singing here:
"And each year when the green corn once agan turns into gold ... lalalala" ( I love that line :o) )
Will Timms could well have been a real person. The Timms family has lived in Cropredy since at least the 1500s. Chances are that Ralph got the name from a gravestone in the churchyard.
It was suggested to him by Peggy.
Yes, true - it didn't sound nearly as good, when they first played it alongside Ralph in 1987 ( there is a recording of that ;-) ).
I am now finally able to play it fairly well on guitar (dropped D). Only 3 chords but they come in various shapes & versions - sounds really good. Still working on the singing, but it's getting better, now that I am able to focus more on it, as the picking works on auto pilot now ;-)
Also a long song with lots of lyrics to remember bec. of the rather long lines.
@tutmosesthe3rd
I can't disagree with you on that one - one of those songs you get on your brain
and begin to hum spontaneously ;-)
I have even figured out how to play it now. (guitar)
Ok, thank you - will try that ;-)
I also managed to fit in an Em7 - come to think of it
( a special version because of the dropped D tuning : 2(T) 2 2 0 3 0 ).
There were probably three Timms brothers living in Cropredy at the time of the battle:
Thomas Timms, b. 10 Dec 1620, Cropredy, d. date unknown.
John Timms, b. 1614, Cropredy, d. date unknown.
George Timms, b. 1616, Cropredy, d. date unknown.
No Will, though.
Very interesting - thanks a lot ;-)
Artistic license on Ralph's part perhaps?
Maybe it just sounded better? ;-)
Bjowolf2 I reckon so. The father of the brothers was named William, but he was dead by 1644.
@BobM925
And how does your Dad get into the picture? ;-)
I play it using five chords: there's a couple of Bm's plus, more interestingly, an F#m at the end of the third line.
@bickerandrue
Yes ;-)
Great ;-)
I just hope, it doesn't harm your cycling skils - we wouldn't want any more victims LOL It's one of those tunes that you really get on your brain, isn't it? - one you will begin humming or whistling, when you least expect it.
Yes, good acoustics around Birmingham, it seems ;-)
AAAARRRR i love me the smell of straw first thing in the mornin..
@BobM925
Ahaaa, hehe - great! I knew we would make a decent person out of you some day LOL
Tak for en god (hi)storie ;-)