Diesel Heater For Our Rooftop Tent - German Precision ???
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
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We installed a cheap chinese 2kw Diesel heater for our roof top tent. Check out this video of the full installation.
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Vera & Christian ,
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I woke up full of cold feeling like shit , Iv just watched your vid and smiled all the way through and feel so much better
Perhaps our NHS could show your vids on hospital TV 🤣🤣
You guys just can’t stop showing off can you , I love it even your son is at it , no one is running off with his chair are they 😅😅😅😅
Robins chair reminds me of a wooden garden bench I made for professor Ron, I said you need to oil it every year and bring it in to the garage! He replied we carn't even lift it but it will last for ever! Robin is definitely in the minority for having such talents at a young age! 😮🙂🤙
I just watched this again as I want to install a heater for my roof tent and noticed your first overland book😁that's a fantastic read👍
How can I get hold of a copy of the book, Vera?
I’m truly envious of your workshop setup, you guys seem to have all the tools ⚒️ to make all my dreams come true…
👌👌👌👍........Never waste our time...I don't have a D3 anymore, i'me a R Rover sport convert.. However love your dedication and detail.
"you didn't see the one in the bedroom?" 😂
Glad you don't want coffee on your videos, tea is much more appropriate when working on a British vehicle, a cup every 20 minutes when things are going well. Another great video 👍👍
Another great job. My only suggestion is that you might want to place a shroud over the external fresh air intake vent to prevent water ingress in to your box.
Regards
Peter
Enjoyed the video very much. Keep up the good work.
@25:51 - If I'm not mistaken, I believe some of these units have a low voltage monitor, whereby the unit will perform a safe shutdown if the battery level drops below a certain threshold.
You might want to rethink the muffler.
Firstly, it's on it's side. It has a drain hole in the bottom to allow any moisture in the exhaust to escape. That's not going to work with the muffler on it's side.
Secondly, the muffler is inside the box, which means exhaust fumes can escape into the box through the vent.
Personally, given that the exhaust is a convoluted hose, I suspect that the drain in the muffler doesn't remove a lot of moisture.
That being the case, the simplest solution might be simply to crimp the vent closed.
Ideally, it needs mounting on the outside of the box, the correct way up, though.
Doesn't look like the exhaust is running downhill either.
Yees but it is not that critical. The hole is really small. I do like the idea to crimp it closed or weld it shut. We will not get much use out of this heater anyhow. I like to keep the muffler inside because such installations are not 100% legal in Germany. For example is it not allowed to carry Diesel in a not-certified container and i drilled holes into the container. Christan
@@Vera_and_Christian It's a very neat installation and it'd be a shame to have to modify it.
I suppose, if you wanted to be really OCD about it you could fit the muffler the correct way up (inside the box) and then run a small diameter metal hose from the drain and out of the bottom of the storage box.
Thinking about it, I suspect the most useful thing about the vent might be to drain any unburned diesel out of the exhaust.
That might be something worth monitoring.
Just had a memorial for our German brother today, he had a long and fruitful life. He came from the era of the Nazi time frame, learned a lot from him what it was like to be a "neutral" child German during that time. He loved German vehicles, the food and culture; meaning German attention to detail and pride in tooling/manufacturing. He loved America, but his German roots were always there and always had German vehicles. As a German descendant, family has been traced to the 1450s, I hope to visit again outside my Army days. I appreciate both of your "German" personality and sense of humor.
Christian, my Colombian wife's garage personality versus Vera's is 180 degrees out; cherish her enthusiasm and interest, you have a gem in her, lol!!!
You are both not only full of great and wonderful ideas, but you turn them into a reality! Thank you both so very much. Robin is a very talented craftsman.
You guys are amazing..I love your videos and funny comments...👍👍👍
Hi Christian and Vera. You two crack me up with your banter. Nice job on the diesel heater and it's given me food for thought as I have one of those that I need to fit to my Discovery 3 but I was unsure where to fit it. All I need now to to build a nice aluminium box to fit it into!
Very good , enjoyed watching, & your a good team.
Hi Christian & vera, can i suggest that you move the heater outlet the lowest point in the tent & place it where your feet are, that will reduce the noise & set the heater at 3 when you need to warm the tent up & before going to sleep, set it 1 or 2, that way the heater will keep the tent at a more comfortable temperature while you sleep.
I have an eberspatch heater in my truck, thats kept me toasty for many years.
Regards Graham
We have to do various improvements on it and air distribution is one of them. Thanks. Christian
I think that big black panel on the roof box is crying out for a large LRTime logo 😄
😅👍🙋♀️Vera
Another professional job carried out by the two of you
Just signed onto your Patreon. Looking forward to duplicating your drawer slider design. Thanks for all that you do with such great humor
😀👍That is so great, thank you. I am not sure who you are, but I will contact you on Patreon over the weekend. 🙋♀Vera
I really appreciate all the effort that goes into making these videos. I cannot imagine how much you had to film and edit to make a 35 minute long video and to keep it entertaining and informative aswell.
Well done! I keep waiting for the day when Christian fabricates an entire Discovery 3 from scratch.
😅Me too. 👍🙋♀️Vera
I would run the control box cable and the 12V supply inside the vent hose, and run the hose through the bottom of the tent with a small riser to bring it above mattress/pillow height and diffuse the heat both sides. Or if it's too hot another connection through the floor is also easy. Saves running through the zipper window.
The temp would be ok for a rubber cable. They allow 90 degrees. Have to think about this. Really clever idea for sure. Christian
Another great video - thanks guys!
I want add to that You may find useful google therm "coaxial exhaust" where you have tube-inside-larger tube, inner takes air from tent into heater, outer contour - pushes air in tent/to the car.
You both never fail to entertain me with your skills, roll on next sunday
Great content, as always! I hope you have some trips planned for this year. It would be great to see a video some time about how your modifications worked out in the field and what you may do to improve any of them. 👍
Most motorcycle shops will have fuel line quick disconnect fittings (used when removing the fuel tank).
You gotta love the german precision
well done, enjoyable watching
That’s a great installation!
A couple of tips:
- the muffler is usually meant to be mounted vertically as it has a drain hole at the bottom where condensed water runs out (you might not have much condensation inside the muffler since it will stay hot), however, it will leak a small amount of exhaust gas inside your box
- I highly recommend that you have a CO alarm inside the tent - just to be safe
- Personally I installed a flange and duct on the intake side of the heater and ducted that fresh air away from the heater. Just for extra piece of mind that no exhaust gas is being sucked in
- If the standard pump ends up being too noisy for you, then there are quieter ones available on ebay
- Finally, I found that a single walled heater duct is quite inefficient compared to a dual wall duct from say a dryer vent. On setting H1, I’m able to keep a 20 foot camper comfortable
Thanks for the hints. I think I will weld that drain hole shut because I want to keep the muffler inside the box. Christian
Next Video....Christian makes his own diesel heater because this Chinese made one failed. This is amazing. I can watch you make things all day. Vera 's commentary is theee BEST! Most videos play some terrible music to kill time... we get to hear Vera's commentary. So much better. Amazing work!!! Btw, glad to see your subs are going up! Well deserved
😊🙏But, the terrible music is for free and most like it actually. They write me how their kids hum the melody 😅👍 🙋♀️Vera
For a quick disconnect fitting try motor racing suppliers (dry break fuel lines required in a lot of race series now) or your local hydraulic pipe company such as Pirtek if you have them in Germany
My night heater has a thermostat that I set around 10 c and it’s red hot even when the temperature out side is ~2c great video
Great install and engineering as always . The chair at the end is the most German over build thing ever . Absolutely love it !
It's not overbuild, it's a work of art and will be displayed at an internationl blacksmiths meeting. 👍🙋♀️Vera
Nice work you guys, there's nothing like being warm and cosy in the tent. Great sheet metal skills there Christian. ✅
That’s a lot of Hot Air !… but in a good way 😁
The best quick release couplings I use are Parker Tema Rectus 21
I am rebuilding a defender 90 and even though this is a different car yours is easily one of the best channels on you tube
that is so great. I hope we'll get one too and document the process. 😃👍🙋♀️Vera
We have the same heater installed on our boat. Vera you LR3 is an awesome machine! I would suggest getting rid of that green hose and using some proper reinforced fuel hose.
Thanks for the fun,
Bob & Jill
Excellent video very entertaining thank you.
Hi both
For the desired quick connector please look at Swagelok. Hi quality and we have used it for hydraulic and fuel lines on test benches. Regards Michael
Indeed, they have a 1/8” hydraulic quick disconnect. Looks like quality stuff too. Thanks. Christian
Christian, can't wait until you tell us how you really feel! Nice work!
Fabulous, love the metalwork, real craftsmanship. Nice job all round. Where's the adventure for you guys this summer
We will see how the situation is in Summer. Diesel price is rising big time. Christian
Evening Vera and Christian 🤩 That was a really good installation of a Chinese heater 😀 I put one in my concrete garage so I could work on my model railway 👍🏻 It worked really well. It choked up once because of the premature shut down. I got a a new mesh filter off eBay cleaned the glow plug and it works a treat 😆 Cheers for the entertainment too Stevie 😍 x
No coffee making. Thank god. I will keep watching just for that
Left-bottom floor behind left rear/tail light have factory port, You cn use as in-car intake.
On the heat outlet hose, adapt a new shop vac floor nozzle (large) and the heat will be diverted down at the floor. Or 3D print something similar. Just my $.02. Impressive build Christian!
Yes we have a plan already, but that will be in the video with all the other stuff still missing on that project. 👍🙋♀️Vera
Hi guys I love your vidio great phill&christine England take care
Great, completely out of another world for me - as I'm a simply untalented consumer. But you guys are really awesome... loved to see your ideas becoming reality : )
Just amazing!
Hi Christian, you may want to check how you mounted the exhaust. I was shown that there is a small hole opposite the mounting screw hole that is designed to let the condensation drip out. As you mounted the exhaust on its side, the condensation will build up and rust out the quality Chinese stainless steel. Love the channel
I'm surprised that the controller doesn't have a thermostat for automatically switching the heater on and off.
You probably have to spend a lot more money for that feature. Since we are not really winter campers, we think our set up is sufficient for our needs. 👍🙋♀️Vera
Well, l enjoyed the video, great improvisation and the home engineering shows what can be done if you put your mind to it. Always great to see yous and your woof top tent Vera.
Great job! I've never seen anyone install this Chinese heater so meticulously)). The idea of separating the living quarters and the technical compartment is very clever. We have a manufacturer in Russia who makes roof tents with a built-in heater, which is installed on the roof as standard. It's not very comfortable to sleep in it with the heater running overhead and the pump clicking in your ear all night. Thank you for another guide and the cool idea of splitting the remote through the connector!
Our pump clicks too. I may have to mount a box in a box. Thanks. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian On Amazon there is on sale the noise insulation (housing) for this pump. I heard that the noise is much reduced, maybe you would be interested. You can search by the phrase: Parking Heater Fuel Pump Protective Case
Motorcycle ‘Well nuts’ (rubber version of a Riv-nut) are good for mounting and isolating items like this 👍
Christian work like an Ingenieur. Nice work
Cheap heater, with crazy hours and parts to make it work well. Seems about right.
Wish we had a diesel AC unit like that for our Aus summers.
Nice work you two.
😅👍 Actually, that is a great idea. When we traveled to the Pyrenees Mountains and it's adjacent deserts, it was above 36 degrees and we were dying. 🙋♀️Vera
Great show. Just thinking for safety you might include a CO2 & NO2 gas detectors inside the tent for 2 reasons 1) cracked heat exchanger 2) wind change of direction entering the clean air intake, but NO2 detectors are not cheap. Thought as an electrician you might go down the electric blow fan heater looking at the volume of heat required, uplift in temp and automatic thermostat, not sure what wattage you would need or how your battery would fair. 🤔
I got now a high quality CO2 detector from Amazon. We will install it before we use it again. Thanks. Christian
Great idea😊
I love your videos and I don’t even have a Landrover or a Toyota but drive a German car. Vera is my hero, love the banter. Very well engineered. If you find the heat is too hot to have it switched on overnight and you find the heater noisy, could you install it under the car and have a detachable long hose to fit when you camp. Yes you would lose some heat along the pipe but it may give a noiseless comfortable heat and it would be easier to fit a take off from the vehicles diesel tank. I know this is not an idea you want o hear after all your hard work but it’s just a thought. Cheers John from County Durham England
Great work. Maybe a flange /defuser to be sewn into the tent wall for the heater outlet with a matching one on the window like the vents for when you have pets in the car.
Great work and very informative thanks.
I saw one guy who put the whole heating system in a box which he kept on the floor beside the car. This seemed a good idea as all the fumes and noise was kept away from the sleeping area all that was required was a longer piece of ducting .
Yes, that is the normal way to build this. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian But not for you? Too simple perhaps. You have an elegant solution but I wonder if it would not be a bother with noise in the long run?
Great video guys, I’ll replicate this setup once my rooftop tent arrive!
“I’m never, ever going to use it alone” 😂
Brilliant. Having run D3 and D4 for 16 years, I bought a new Volvo XC 90 😬. Your videos have encouraged me to add a D3 back into my fleet alongside it so I'm on the look out for a good one.. I miss the adventure I used to have, although not the bills! A heater for the tent is such cool addition. Keep up the great content. 👍
Excellent video, as always! Good Idiocracy clip, and nice to see Robin and his amazing metal creations. Also, your little arguments are funny.
We only show 1% of the arguments and only the minor ones. Thanks. Christian
Another great video. When Vera mentioned bringing heat into the D3 cabin through a side window, I thought of another channel I am subscribed to. The channel is named "Headway Drive". This person even made, umongst other things, his own rooftop tent and easily removable but secure side window ventilation for when he was still sleeping in his Nissan X-trail T31: - brilliant Japanese engineering 😀. Now you know he is Japanese but luckily the channel has english captions. I enjoy both LR Time and Headway drive. I like Robin's chair👌. Have a great week.🙋♂️🧑🔧
👍I'll check him out. 😃🙋♀️Vera
Nice job.
145 watts=12amps not bad i have one for my garage but have done nothing with it yet maybe get it going for next winter thank you for the video
The coolest channel on UA-cam!♥️♥️♥️
😊🙏🙋♀️Vera
Great video 👍
Another amazing improvement. You both are genius 👍
Hi Christian and Vera a very good video a clever place to install the night heater in your roof box and also the idea you had vera was very clever let's hope Christian can do that on the 3D printer. Can you please tell Robin is a very good blacksmith and keep up the great work that you all do👍👏.
Ralph
😃👍 Will do. he'll be very happy to hear that. 🙋♀️Vera
Superb as always . Everybody needs to told about this great channel . 👍
💪👍🙋♀️Vera
Wow great job you guys I'm super impressed! I love all those nice heat shields and covers you build.
Pure talent. Well done.
Wonderful content as usual from Christian & Vera, great construction.. I am worried about fumes from the exhaust, could you make a telescopic exhaust pipe to extent higher than the tent to stop the fumes entering the tent on wind locations and you need a CO2 & NO2 gas monitor inside the tent just in case. Has Christian ever though of providing a design and build service to small businesses that need custom design work carried out.. Amazing set up on tools and knowledge.. I can't wait for the next video..bravo.
I ordered a detector. The smell is not really a problem. We are more worried about the Chinese Quality unit failing in some way. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian good to hear , its the dangerous stuff that has no smell you have to worry more about. great fabrication by the way ..
Another brilliant video, well done, guys. 👍
Hamsters and coffee very funny🤣🤣 Excellent video👍 if you suspend the diesel pump with some springs or something better it makes it much quieter that's what i did👌
I ordered stuff to put around the pump. As long as we don´t run it through the night, it is actually not that bad. Christian
Cool video, thanks! It is quite funny: as soon as I start researching a heating solution for my roof top tent, you upload this video. Obviously, you are not only great mechanics and content creators but psychic as well. :)
I will try to leave regular comments in the hope that this helps a little with the videos’ promotion.
Great Idea. Would you consider tô make a vídeo explaining a hard reset in a disco 3? Prós and cons and your opinion? Best regards
Ingenious
You could add an automatic fire extinguisher to the box. You can get them with an electrical switch that could be used to shut off the power. These are usually in leasure marine installations.
😃👍 I' look into that. 🙋♀️Vera
Nice job…I thought about doing this with my roof tent although I think our roof tent days are over! We did 2 weeks in Scandinavia in the roof tent and found it hard work with me and my wife and 2 boys in it but the body heat kept the temp up! Lol
Yes our kids slept in a ground tent. We did too before we got the RTT 3 years ago 👍🙋♀️. Vera
Using a couple of silicone o-rings either side of the muffler mount bolt would isolate the heat and any noise from transferring into the box and then the car 👍
The engineering is way to complicated for my feeble mind but I did learn something. Listen to Vera!😀. Great video as usual 🇺🇦
😅👍🙋♀️Vera
You guys are funny. I live in Australia and in my caravan I don't have a cheap Chinese diesel heater, I have an expensive German one. Eberspächer.
The Eberspächer is a good brand. I know we should not buy cheap Chinese copy products but we will not get much use out of the heater. I am surprised that you have a “ä” on your keyboard 😳😂 Christian
I have the 5kW Version of this thing running in my Workshop since 2018 now after 20 months 24/7 runtime the Motor and Burner are on its end of lifecycle.
So far i am impressed from this things, and by the way if you have floaded the Chamber with Diesel it dosnt matter that far 😁
The value for the price is really good. Not so good for Webasto so. Christian
Watched everyvideo of yours!
Vera, if you want to bring heat into the vehicle from through a pipe have a look at the Discovery window vents from Nakataneng which you could adapt easily. Best wishes Becca and Chris.
Now, no offense please, but the whole purpose of our channel is to build this stuff so that it is affordable. And then share it with others so they have a chance of owning and having fun with their Discovery, without emptying their bank account. And Christian enjoys so much the process of creating and building. I could have also purchased a diesel heater from Nakatanenga for 1800€. But that is way too expensive for us. 👍🙋♀️Vera
Think how cool..I mean warm it would be if you could reroute the warm air below the mattress. Maybe by rising the mattress by 1 cm or something...
Great idea with the heater for your roof tent , the tent will be nice and warm for getting dressed in the morning, when you don't want to get out your sleeping bag normally ...
Love the Mall Crawler sticker with the Lidl response symbol added Christian lol
I like Robbies theft proof chair , though I bet you swear at it the first time you stub a toe on it lol
😅👍 🙋♀️Vera
Just use the genuine quick release from the webasto pipe in the nsf wheel arch
Look in front of your strut push the arch slightly back
Hi Christian & Vera, once again great video 👏👏👏 ...I noticed you took the rear wheel carrier off whist on with video ...any chance yo can make a drawing for the carrier or put video in English too 🙄🙄🙄 ...Regards Norm's
We might, since we want to change it to carry a diesel canister in the rotopax style. As soon as they are available here in Germany again. 👍🙋♀️Vera
Wonderful video, and I love the install, but you can (and are advised to) just mount the heater on its side (with the glow plug uppermost) so that the combustion air intake and exhaust immediately exit the box.
Also, your 12v plug and socket are incorrectly gendered. In theory, you can touch or short out the live pins of your supply. The supply should be female and the load receptacle should be male.
The plug has protected pins also, so it it not dangerous at all. They do not make this cheap plug the other way around. The heater manual said to avoid mounting the burner with the connections sideways but I did see other people do this. Christian
Excellent as always. I was going to mention the silencer vent and CO alarm but see these have already been discussed. Did wonder whether the hot air inlet could come via a floor mounted fitting so you're working with something rigid. I have a 5KW version of this unit on my boat and so far it's been flawless.
As ever, all best wishes from the U.K.!
Yes we did, and I am not willing to cut a hole into my RTT, like Christian wanted to do. 😅 🙋♀️Vera
In the muffler ist a hole for condensation. You Mist Turn the muffler 90 deg.
Goodvideo
Onto a winner there folks. But can you store other things in the unit or is now just wasted space?
We store our chairs, sleeping bags, hiking boots and helmets there. There is tons of space and we have a lot of gear since we do like to be active on our vacations. 👍🙋♀️Vera