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You guys seriously have the best videos. As a seasoned WoW play since '05... I genuinely look forward to your guys' insight and newly released videos. Thank you!
I usually skip over the "come sign up for our program" because I watch the LoL videos too so I heard it a lot. BUT, this one got a good chuckle out of me and for the first time in a handful of years, I actually watched through it lol.
@@uoutub3 I’m actually feeling stronger and pushing higher shuff CR with arms right now over fury. Fury just flops without being able to put out enormous pressure.
I was so excited for this season and I managed to get a handful of 3s games in but I queued into a devo that had 100% uptime on hover for 45 seconds straight and one disintegrate did 60% of my health and I just logged off lol. I can't stand playing when something is laughably overtuned like ret patch in DF. Hopefully gets fixed soon. Still excited for the season!
@@SlingbladeOfficial1 well, their wall makes them immune to kicks/silences for 15sec and they have 2 charges. So their immune to silences for 30sec for every 1.5 min. In addition, they also have shrouds that eat the next 3 ccs on them and also lasts 30sec which they can just simply use outside of walls. You Alternate those cds perfectly and you're actually immune to virtually all CC the entire match unless shrouds get purged. Also, have fun trying to short range clone a class that's permanently immune to snares, moves at 170% speed every Hover and permanently moves at 125% and has CC immunity for 30secs with no purges. I'll leave that adventure all to you to enjoy and "counter"
DH is still very squishy tho. Damage buffs alone likely won't change too much. Actually pretty annoying how its survivability roller coasters between xpacs.
Ladder is broken, top 0.00001% of players dominant all brackets due to mmr being capped. Literally zero reason for average person to play right now. As much as I want to play, the game is forcing me not to so I just quit.
Am I the only one that sees demon hunter get top damage anytime they are in the lobby? I swear their burst in their opener is insane. Am I playing on a different patch than everyone else? 😅🤣
Yeah, i play dh and my dmg is certainly not the problem. It’s that I die to a sneeze or a root. Eyebeam, essence break, blade dance spam chaos strike is like 1 mil dps. Big meta even makes it do more dmg. The problem with the class to me is not its damage.
Good luck 😂 also a frost DK player. They’ve ignored frost dk for years don’t expect that to change anytime soon. Unholy is really good but so boring. I also like playing enhance shaman, I’m a glutton for punishment lol
now i just believe that some high manager decided to main frost mage this season, because makes zero sense, its toxic for almost all melee need to see if this adjusts are enough (the only class to receive adjust and not a nerf)
Squish? with all the defensives you got? you dudes are just bad, try being a warlock and see whats squishy dying in less than 20 seconds after being targeted..
@@Macferny you gotta be capping 😂 warlock squishy?😂 most sustain dps in the game. “All” the defensive buttons dh has. We literally have 1, 3 if you count darkness and netherwalk. 4 if you use a talent slot for glimpse. This can’t be serious. Don’t think you’ve ever been above 1100 rating if you think warlocks are squish.
@@Macferny i feel for you guys truly, we have little self sustain not the same as it was in DF in meta we are ok outside we are squish especially against rogues
frost mage is dead in this meta, A is realy generous ! it was A last week in this hunt, lock, uh meta ... Frost mage winrate was already lower than most meta range now it's realy bad Of course frost was damn and is still strong in melee lobby, but melee lobby isn't a thing in this meta ! Tbh nerfing lance kill the spec in shuffle , the good nerf would have been reducing snare efect but nah blizz prefer making frost unplayable If the meta doesn't shift a bit, mage don't have any great spec shuffle wise anymore (From a frost mage at ceiling mmr) Btw frostbolt build in blitz might be realy realy solid
do like me, play 2v2 and while waiting in queue duel people in goldshire. much more fun than this 3v3 chaos where everyone is throwing shit left and right. i wish there was a ranked 1v1 mode though, this would make the game so much more fun.
Why does every keep hyping frost mages? They are not that good fire mage is far better. What's frost got? It has flurry, and ice shard. That's about it. What's fire got? Instant Pyro blasts, instant fire fire blasts, and instant phenix blast all of which leave fire dot, have high crit and prot each other to instant cast. Frost only has flurry and ice shard. Comparing the two is laughable.
@@zoovaado7759 every new class introduced is cringey, same thing was seaid about dks, monks, dhs, wow players are just autitstic boomers that dont like anything new, but then also complain when nothing changes.
8.25$ per month, yeah, but you don`t mention that you have to pay 95$ from the start! Or did I get it wrong? You wrote there "annual", idk, seems strange. And come on, +400 rating throuh 5 months? It`s too long, you can just learn yourself a thing or two just constantly playing all these 5 months and gain even more than 400r.
Isn't the entire premise of a tier list is a char or class at it's highest potential? Skill ceiling shouldn't be a reason for something not to be in S tier.
That's like saying Azir with 44% winrate is completely OP in solo queue and should be picked at every opportunity possible... no, azir is strong/OP in pro play because they are pro players, u are not. U cannot rank a class based on the 0.01% of players.
We try to balance our tierlists so that they can reflect high level and casual play at the same time. Basing a tier list entirely off skill ceilings can create misleading information for 99% of the playerbase. Just because a spec is OP on paper, or OP in the hands of a Rank 1 player, doesn't mean it's OP for a casual player.
Without fail Blizzard nerfing the toon you just lvled and boosting a class you need to lvl and gear. This is getting beyond ridiculous. But more boosts kids buy buy buy.
This is a problem only for the 1600 players who think rerolling will make them finally 2400. People who are very good at their class can play their class even when its c tier and do well.
There isn't a single non tank class you can't break 2000 rating on if you're good enough. Currently the best players in the world are just edging over 2400 but by seasons end, you should be able to achieve this. So many people reroll over and over and never actually develop the skills they need to do well. I've seen content creator's complaining about class imbalance in pvp and after looking at their account achievements, they're currently sitting at below 1400 rating and have a career high of 1800. These kind of people do not have a clue about the real capabilities of their own class.
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You guys seriously have the best videos. As a seasoned WoW play since '05... I genuinely look forward to your guys' insight and newly released videos. Thank you!
I'm from 2004, Quit EverQuest for it.
old school vanilla here :)
400 rating in 5 months. is that mainly due to inflation though?
I usually skip over the "come sign up for our program" because I watch the LoL videos too so I heard it a lot. BUT, this one got a good chuckle out of me and for the first time in a handful of years, I actually watched through it lol.
Enha being last again, I see a pattern already
11.0.5 is coming. Hang in there
I mean frost is still lower
Enhance has been trolled by blizzard in pvp since the dawn of time welcome to the let down club
@@drumma5409 at least has an alternative melee DPS spec that they can play. Gotta play ele to be competitive, which is not even close.
I main enhance and it's strong. Just gotta press a few hundred more buttons than every other spec.
It’s bull shit. My poor arms war sits there getting dawged hard this season
dis is bullsheet!
I don't even think arms is that bad but maybe cause im below 1700
Do we agree with fury A+ tier? After their damage nerfs, it’s easier to survive their pressure and they’re pretty squishy.
Yup there still crazy
True, I'm not playing fury but I feel like they don't hit so hard as they did like 2 weeks ago
Nah Skullcrapped is still fumbling. It also denied frostmage was S for 2 videos in a row.
definitely not. to put assa below fury is criminal
@@uoutub3 I’m actually feeling stronger and pushing higher shuff CR with arms right now over fury. Fury just flops without being able to put out enormous pressure.
I was so excited for this season and I managed to get a handful of 3s games in but I queued into a devo that had 100% uptime on hover for 45 seconds straight and one disintegrate did 60% of my health and I just logged off lol. I can't stand playing when something is laughably overtuned like ret patch in DF. Hopefully gets fixed soon. Still excited for the season!
Silence? Cyclone? There are counters everywhere.
@@SlingbladeOfficial1 well, their wall makes them immune to kicks/silences for 15sec and they have 2 charges. So their immune to silences for 30sec for every 1.5 min. In addition, they also have shrouds that eat the next 3 ccs on them and also lasts 30sec which they can just simply use outside of walls. You Alternate those cds perfectly and you're actually immune to virtually all CC the entire match unless shrouds get purged. Also, have fun trying to short range clone a class that's permanently immune to snares, moves at 170% speed every Hover and permanently moves at 125% and has CC immunity for 30secs with no purges. I'll leave that adventure all to you to enjoy and "counter"
35 min queues again after few weeks in, at least in europe, while all healers still sit in 2vs2 and most average players play battleground blitz.
Warlock in solo shuffle is kill target and dies...
Last week you said "Assassination is a Sleeper S tier .." it wasn't . it is so squishy and not enough mastery available right now.
DH is still very squishy tho. Damage buffs alone likely won't change too much. Actually pretty annoying how its survivability roller coasters between xpacs.
I still don't know how to queue for solo shuffle.
In the group finder pvp rated tab
You need 623 iLvl in PvP
you need full honor gear on
For F sake I as Enhancement shaman main am NOT into golden showers every patch and expansion!
MM hunter?
LOVE FOR FROST DK PLEASE
Still no BG blitz content :(
Frost dk can never be A tier for more than a patch and it gets nerfed. Frost sk is nerfed even indirectly qhen they nerf UH
Look at frost DK KEKWWWWWWW HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Buff arms or buff fury in st.
I didn't feel weak on my dh, but buffs gladly welcomed😂
shhh
Ladder is broken, top 0.00001% of players dominant all brackets due to mmr being capped. Literally zero reason for average person to play right now. As much as I want to play, the game is forcing me not to so I just quit.
Get better instead of crying then quit. When life gets hard do you run back to mom's house? Come on man 😂
I dunno man, I rejoice fighting better players so I can actually learn.
Maybe it's time for him to actually achieve something in life. Instead of "running back to Mom's house".
Boohoo
Life is hard wear a helmet
Am I the only one that sees demon hunter get top damage anytime they are in the lobby? I swear their burst in their opener is insane. Am I playing on a different patch than everyone else? 😅🤣
Yeah, i play dh and my dmg is certainly not the problem. It’s that I die to a sneeze or a root. Eyebeam, essence break, blade dance spam chaos strike is like 1 mil dps. Big meta even makes it do more dmg. The problem with the class to me is not its damage.
@@K33SKAAS yeah, it’s like when Paladins ask for more movement for years and they just ignore that give them more burst 🤣
As a frost dk player I feel I can do good on casters if they dont kite too much, and it's hard against melees hopefully a buff comes our way soon
Good luck 😂
also a frost DK player. They’ve ignored frost dk for years don’t expect that to change anytime soon. Unholy is really good but so boring.
I also like playing enhance shaman, I’m a glutton for punishment lol
Can they just little bit buff all those "b tier" specs and stop messing around with meta XD like wtf
now i just believe that some high manager decided to main frost mage this season, because makes zero sense, its toxic for almost all melee
need to see if this adjusts are enough (the only class to receive adjust and not a nerf)
Alright enough PVP stuff. Will you please do an updated M+ list for ranged and melee.
pvp is an afterthought of the game and you dungeon heroes still cry lmao
Well you are watching the PvP guides account so might be other creators?
DH is super squish could use a defensive buff of some type
That’s what im saying as a dh main! Their dmg is already pretty good, probably gonna be even better with the 4set
Squish? with all the defensives you got? you dudes are just bad, try being a warlock and see whats squishy dying in less than 20 seconds after being targeted..
@@Macferny you gotta be capping 😂 warlock squishy?😂 most sustain dps in the game. “All” the defensive buttons dh has. We literally have 1, 3 if you count darkness and netherwalk. 4 if you use a talent slot for glimpse. This can’t be serious. Don’t think you’ve ever been above 1100 rating if you think warlocks are squish.
@@Macferny i feel for you guys truly, we have little self sustain not the same as it was in DF in meta we are ok outside we are squish especially against rogues
Mm hunter is perfect
frost mage is dead in this meta, A is realy generous ! it was A last week in this hunt, lock, uh meta ... Frost mage winrate was already lower than most meta range now it's realy bad
Of course frost was damn and is still strong in melee lobby, but melee lobby isn't a thing in this meta ! Tbh nerfing lance kill the spec in shuffle , the good nerf would have been reducing snare efect but nah blizz prefer making frost unplayable
If the meta doesn't shift a bit, mage don't have any great spec shuffle wise anymore
(From a frost mage at ceiling mmr)
Btw frostbolt build in blitz might be realy realy solid
do like me, play 2v2 and while waiting in queue duel people in goldshire. much more fun than this 3v3 chaos where everyone is throwing shit left and right. i wish there was a ranked 1v1 mode though, this would make the game so much more fun.
Why does every keep hyping frost mages? They are not that good fire mage is far better. What's frost got? It has flurry, and ice shard. That's about it. What's fire got? Instant Pyro blasts, instant fire fire blasts, and instant phenix blast all of which leave fire dot, have high crit and prot each other to instant cast. Frost only has flurry and ice shard. Comparing the two is laughable.
😂😂
Fire is doing terrible in TWW so far
every time you say dev is tanky i want so slam my head on my PC are we playing the same game?
Tankier than last xpac and with infinity bullshit mobility, class is so cringy
@@zoovaado7759 every new class introduced is cringey, same thing was seaid about dks, monks, dhs, wow players are just autitstic boomers that dont like anything new, but then also complain when nothing changes.
As a mm player, please remove extra survival of the fittest charge and reduce rapid fire dmg a little bit and we should be good to go.
You’re clearly not an MM player
Pvp is too fast-paced for new players & casuals to stick around in pvp. Unrated pvp is a 💩-show & games are always 1-sided.
this tier list is so shit
8.25$ per month, yeah, but you don`t mention that you have to pay 95$ from the start! Or did I get it wrong? You wrote there "annual", idk, seems strange. And come on, +400 rating throuh 5 months? It`s too long, you can just learn yourself a thing or two just constantly playing all these 5 months and gain even more than 400r.
I was top 100 frostmage EU in shuffle every game 15x glad 2,7xp multi r1 dudes 😢 now iam place 150 or Something
balance druids are paper, they need some love
use bear bro, it's literally perma free hp and armor and hp regen
Here before the delusional noobs are like “ FrOsT dk iS nOT C tier derppp”
where the hell is your articles page ? your site is confusing
I like your tier list video keep em coming.
mage main makes these lists for sure
Wtf i get 5 point for win but losing 13 😂
I hate playing Priest, I NEVER play Priest, but Shadow has unhealable damage. SP is beyond busted.
I just want some holy dps buff and a skill who works using a two handed weapon (minus the lame a55 boring shield of righteousness)
Jast Highway
i thought i was a rogue player but yea no
ABOUT TIME WE GET SOME LOVE! 💛💡
PvP tuning hype!
Lets Go!
Where are the blitz tier lists?
Should have one coming out next week.
Idk i dont see these patch notes anywhere
Ur not looking good enough then lol
@enriqueabundis6854 Nope still can't find them LOL tf
@@DreaminARealityTV weird some sites took it down I found this one though
imagine putting assa below warrior and WW. clueless tier list. Assa / sub / feral are S+ tier melee
Assa rogue is really easy to counter if you know how to interrupt their burst windows.
How do I do that? @@Torste
Isn't the entire premise of a tier list is a char or class at it's highest potential? Skill ceiling shouldn't be a reason for something not to be in S tier.
That's like saying Azir with 44% winrate is completely OP in solo queue and should be picked at every opportunity possible... no, azir is strong/OP in pro play because they are pro players, u are not. U cannot rank a class based on the 0.01% of players.
@@kerkertrandov459 that is exactly what tier lists are for... the highest level of play. That's the entire foundation of tiers...
We try to balance our tierlists so that they can reflect high level and casual play at the same time.
Basing a tier list entirely off skill ceilings can create misleading information for 99% of the playerbase. Just because a spec is OP on paper, or OP in the hands of a Rank 1 player, doesn't mean it's OP for a casual player.
What about fist?
Without fail Blizzard nerfing the toon you just lvled and boosting a class you need to lvl and gear. This is getting beyond ridiculous. But more boosts kids buy buy buy.
Stop playing flavour of the month classes, so you don't always get nerfed?
This is a problem only for the 1600 players who think rerolling will make them finally 2400. People who are very good at their class can play their class even when its c tier and do well.
There isn't a single non tank class you can't break 2000 rating on if you're good enough. Currently the best players in the world are just edging over 2400 but by seasons end, you should be able to achieve this. So many people reroll over and over and never actually develop the skills they need to do well. I've seen content creator's complaining about class imbalance in pvp and after looking at their account achievements, they're currently sitting at below 1400 rating and have a career high of 1800. These kind of people do not have a clue about the real capabilities of their own class.
@VoltairsGhostNone
Any class can get to 2.4. You fotm re-rollers will always be hard stuck at 1800.
The boost has never been more pointless, leveling from 1-70 is amazingly fast now