@@konzza but it really tells you everything you need to know about their FO. They had their best season in 20 years, and the First thing they do after that --> cut payroll.
You tanked for a decade got a number 1 pick and you tanked for another 5 sealsn and got another number 1 pick and both were all stars… and only gave the team 1 playoff run… failure of an org
Yeah.... and the one you traded, plays one of his best seasons ever. Actually, IMO, he should even be in the MVP discussions, if he continues (read: stays healthy) to play like this the whole season. I'm a Wolves fan, but been watching Knicks for few seasons (because of the Brunson story) and man... this season's been really entertaining to watch, KAT fitted like a glove into that team. Meanwhile the season Wolves are having now, after the stellar previous season, is just painful and sad to watch. Not gonna stop for rooting my favourite team, but man what a f-ing mistake, no matter what the cost would've been. Literally from a contender team back to a "not sure we're in the playoffs this year" team... 😵💫
@nachoviking that's why I don't get why people complain when players don't stick to their first team. If you stay there for years and they do nothing for you, then you owe them nothing. You do your part and are one of the best in the league or even the best but they fail theirs. That's why you can't judge players based on if they stayed with their teams forever because only 2 players in history deserve credit for that and it's dirk and duncan
Can we just acknowledge, that the new salary cap failed its purpose? Remember: it was supposed to enable small market teams to compete with the big guys. Now the Timberwolves break up their promising core after 1 good season, because they can't afford to pay the 2nd level luxury tax. So they traded KAT for a shorter contract. Meanwhile, the Knicks just said "fuck it, we can afford to pay that luxury tax for multiple seasons"... Well done. And yes, the luxury tax is the only reason, why the Wolves made that trade.
Incompetent ownership led to this .. the gobert deal tied there hands with all the picks given up they would face guaranteed backlash for trading him off for pennys after his horrendous Olympics play. They had to choose between KaT or Rudy and now ruined Edwards next few years unless he’s traded and sent them selves back into irrelevance. They don’t even have most of there future picks either lmao 🤣 horrible
Dude, wait… wait… 1. Look at KATs playoff stats. He does great during the regular season. Always has. Falls off during times of stringent D. 2. Thibs Thibs Thibs…. With KATs injury history. You really don’t want KAT playing heavy minutes. It’s a recipe for disaster.
@siulmarih26 NYKs are 13 games above 500. They are good. But Minnesota made the move to save money, not increase wins. They are saving money. I'm sure they'd be happy with wins, but if winning was important to the owners of the TWolves, the team wouldn't have sucked for so long.
Di Vincenzo was the X factor of this trade. But somehow Chris Finch hasn’t been able to utilize him correctly, which is embarassing for a coach of his resumée. As for the Knicks, they’re title contenders imho.
@@cw442 let’s get this out of the way, while KAT can hit threes better than most centers people know about. There have been better SHOOTERS, at the big man spot. Two names come to mind, Tim Duncan and Dirk, two of the deadliest mid ranged assassins ever. Shooting ain’t just about throwing up threes.
I remember getting into an argument with someone who believed the Wolves were Julius Randle’s team after the trade with New York. No matter what I said about Anthony Edwards’ leadership, stats, and status in Minnesota, he would not relent and kept pushing for Julius Randle with the Wolves. Now this was before the season started, so I wonder what that guy is saying now 🤔
Seriously, both statements are lies. Wolves don’t have insane cap flexibility but they have enough to re-sign Naz and Naw which the team seems to consider priorities
@@konzza cap flexibility for what, they are in a shit state/ city, they have never acquired a big free agent. I don’t get stupid small teams like that, develop the talent and trade them makes no sense
@@taxationistheft7 What do you mean? Minnesota is literally one of the best places to live. Strong economy, low crime rates, kind people. The reason the wolves have never acquired a big free agent was because their teams were never really that good... the timberwolves are a star away from a top 3 seed. I doubt stars would rather sign with other teams when they could sign with the wolves and immediately shoot up in the rankings.
@bartekino 😆😆😆 sad to say Vivek should just sale the team to much competent owners i wanna see the Kings battle every year for respect and championship
Crazy how one season and a trade can deter a team As a Clippers fan I feared the Wolves last year. in that run where the Clippers were hot last season; we beat every team, even the Celtics. But only team we couldn’t beat were the Wolves and their annoying defense. I’m actually surprised they didn’t make it to the Finals
People must not be following, but Donte seems to finally be turning it around, he’s had 3 bigs games in a row and the wolves are 3-0 with wins against Dallas, Houston and San Antonio
Gobert has his worth even though he looks goofy. I remember people non-stop saying KAT should be traded and look how that worked out.... The truth is ANT ain't ALL that
Shit I wouldn’t either if I was him, either he says and pressures the decision makers to make a better trade in the future or he goes to another team with a decent system and does what he does best
Calling KAT the best shootng big isnt that controversial consodering how poor he is at standrad big man duties. He plays like a gaurd for better/worse.
This year KAT has been great in the pick and roll, and is leading the league in rebounding. Add a plus 40% 3 point percentage and that’s an elite player. He’s also a super underrated passer. He’s not a good defender at the 5 but he’s an elite offensive big
KAT is still bad in the playoffs don’t get me wrong, but he had some decent games in the playoffs last season. Randle on the other hand is just a disaster in the playoffs, he is an empty calorie scorer and complements no one
KAT was pretty good last year overall tho and he can learn always. He only did bad in the series they lost not the first 2 rounds. Randle game on the other hand is inherently team cancer. Even if he learned to not choke the Knicks would never win with him
@@kevinchang232 he’s having a career year this season. Just look at the wolves record vs the knicks. It might be a bit lopsided because Donte divencenzo is playing pretty bad this year so far.
The problem isn't "spacing", it's the lack of skills. Take Anthony Edwards as an example. He wants to either dunk/layup or shoot a three. He refuses to shoot a midrange jumper and and cant figure out when to pass the ball. Plus, he's got the Embiid disease. He's dumpy. Watch him huffing and puffing and not running past half court at the end of games. This is what the AAU generation has given us with players who think that they're owed that big paycheck rather than going out to bust their ass to earn it. 🏀 🇺🇲
Not one of those things are true about Ant. He’s been taking plenty of mid range shots. And he just hit the game winner against Houston. Not many players play both sides of the ball like Ant does
The problem is julius randle sucks nd should not be on an nba team. He is melo that never had the talent a black hole that doesnt play defense with a bad attitude
@RyuuseiBlizzard if you knew me you'd realize that's the second dumbest comment ever made. Yall just butthurt over a dude who don't even know you. I think I know why
@@jasonmccallop6605 Dirk's career high 3pt attempts per game for a season is 4.9. He just cannot compete against *elite* modern day shooters stats-wise. And if you *watch* basketball, you'd realize Towns shots threes of a higher degree of difficulty, and more versatility (stepbacks, pull ups, etc.). Not to mention that he beats Dirk in efficiency AND volume. It's not even a discussion. This goes with a lot of older shooters. They're great. They were pioneers. Put them in today's game and their shot profiles would potentially be different, however they did not play in today's game, so they don't compare in a lot of cases statistically. That doesn't mean the respect ain't there. But also means people gotta stop being stuck in the past. Shooting is one of the things that's quite quantifiable. And even if we take it to simply eye-test, KAT clears even harder as a shooter.
@RyuuseiBlizzard come on man. If YOU really watched basketball and knew the actual history you would know Dirk didn't shoot 3s like how KAT shoots 3s. If he did it wouldn't even be close.
Classic overreaction in this video and the comments. They made a major move and it’s going to take time for them to figure it out. It happens with nearly every team that makes a big trade. It’s not even halfway through the season, and the west has been extremely competitive. They could go on a single winning streak and suddenly their record would look good and be among the best in the west. I’ll save my overreaction until later in the season.
This is par for the course for the Timberwolves, going back to their first years with the acquisition of "Trader Jack" McCloskey. All GMs and operations guys in this organization (and really, all Minnesota sports franchises) fit the British phrase "too clever by half." That means that in thinking they're smarter than the average bear, they make the stupidest trades and moves while thinking they're these incredible brain wizards. The Wolves' leadership has been outwitting themselves for four decades. No wonder other teams' GMs happily take a call from the Timberwolves. They know they're going to get a great player or great piece without having to give up anything of worth to get it. Add to that, the owner is about 180 years old and made his money in envelopes. Envelopes! This team is a toy to him. Glen Taylor literally sits ten feet away from the team during games, with his trophy wife by his side. They're a laughingstock. They always will be. Just an absolute joke of a basketball team.
i really see the point, but the 2nd Apron is scary and when Karl-Anthony "one of the best stretch big, but disappear in the playoffs" Towns make more than 50 mil a year... that's a scary position and i understand why the Wolves have done that. The situation tell us now that it was a bad trade, but at the moment i really understand and respect the risk taken
Literally my teams problem. They never should have traded Kat. He was a key player. I thought the players looked up to him as a leader. He took the backseat so Ant could excel and when Kat was in the game he def helped them alot. Everytime we get a star player like Him or Garnett it always ends bad with them either getting traded or they request to be traded. The past 3 years or so we got higher up the ladder. And I really thought we would have made the championships this year. Then they traded Kat and I knew it was all over. You can't expect just one star player to change everything instantly. Even with sports being "scripted" to a point. Even when refs do their job terribly. You can still see a good team with alot of talent overcome hardships like that. And minnesota doesn't understand needing to build or take a couple seasons to build your players up. I'm still going to be rooting for my wolves but I knew the success that we had last year wasn't going to last (I'd like them to turn around and have faith but being a fan since Garnett and watching this thing happen alot. Go figured it would have happened again)
The first thing I said when the trade happened is that twolves are gonna regret it. He’s a great addition defensively but when it comes to the playoffs he drops off and the fact he can’t do nothing offensively makes it worse. Jazz got rid of him for a reason.
Gotta keep in mind, when Kawhi was traded to the Raps he was coming into a team that already had high chemistry built from years of playing with one another. Chemistry does matter a lot and is the biggest factor NBA teams disregard
They should do a "my problem for your problem" with the Nets & trade Randle for Simmons, his contract expires at the same time and at minimum he's a better defender ball passer then Randle and can play a Bigger Draymond Green Role 1. Donte DiVincenzo 2. Anthony Edwards 3. Ben Simmons 4. Jaden McDaniels 5. Naz Reid 6. Rob Dillingham 7. Mike Conley Jr 8. Nickeil Alexander-Walker 9. Luke Garza 10. Rudy Gobert If it doesn't work, you can simply bench Simmons, and you won't feel bad about it
Knicks fan. You said what I love most about Towns, he ALWAYS gives effort. Sure he’ll make some dumb fouls but like I’d take that over being unfocused on both sides of the court when your shots not falling. I will always appreciate what Randle did for us and I think he gets too much hate cause he’s not even a good fit with the timberwolves as is
Kyle Anderson was an underrated loss for this team. He’s superfluous on the Warriors but really did fill a Draymond-like role with the Wolves: the non-shooter who could create space with cuts, passing, and IQ.
Let's just accept not all team will be a champion every year. Stop comparing and complaining. Hopefully Knicks hopefully will win the chip this season.
Ostertag with Stockton and Malone coached by Sloan, compared to Gobert and D.Mitchell (his early years) coached by Snyder. Ostertag better than Gobert for that? So Zaza Pachulia better than Ewing, Malone, Garnett, etc... Your way of seeing things is terrifying.
Im confused how are timberwolves cooked? Their only 3 games out of 3rd place lol the kings is a disaster not timberwolves im not a wolves fan but this bs video is a reach they dont even have a losing record this video just for bs views
@@JCStorm76 weird the kings pelicans trail blazers and 76ers have good teams with horrible records those r disasters not t wolves they have a winning record
should have waited to make this video for when the title actually applies....like at the end of the season if things really fell apart. teams make adjustments early on and the timberwolves are trying to get their new pieces to work together the best and figure out the right rotations. Their defense is still really good. I like the additions of Julius Randle and Donte. Julius Randle is a much better threat in the paint and can create more opportunities for the offense. Kat going to the rim resulted in way to many offensive fouls because he just didn't have that finese. Randle is much quicker on the court and more effective i feel and is consistently getting 20+ points this season. He can't shoot the 3 like Kat does, but i think he makes up for that with his other play.
I’m not ready to write the final chapter on this trade yet. It’s like my greatest ever rule. Wait until the player has been out of the league for five years. You’ll have a more clear picture. I’m hoping this plays out better than it looks so far. And we don’t know what will happen with Randle yet.
We were all wrong about KAT. He’s a much better player and person than we thought. End of story. Trading him highlights all his contributions on those Wolves’ teams, the stuff that doesn’t show up on the stat sheet.
Like I've said a million times before, There's nothing head scratching about the KAT Trade. Second apron got added couldn't afford to keep him. "WeLl WhY DiDn'T ThEy TrAdE GoBerT?!" If that's your honest reaction stop talking about trades because you know nothing about the GM world of Basketball. Rudy Gobert could not be traded anywhere in the league, Without ADDING SOMETHING VALUABLE ALONG SIDE HIM. I.E First Round Picks, One of Our Starters or Naz Reid, Etc. If you think they could've traded Gobert instead of KAT Then you need to tell me a trade based around Gobert where the timberwolves don't lose the trade and where the other team still realistically says yes to getting rudy gobert.
@ Name 3 nba players better the. gobert traded in the last 2 seasons that have taken their team further then the conference finals. 4x DPOTY walking double double lob threat screen setter that averages like 60% from the field for a career. Just say you don’t know ball?
Aside from KAT trade, the problem is that the wolves are settling for 3pt shots and the team doesn't know any other play style. There is no floor spacing and they are all out here playing pickup ball. Hell, this is why the NBA is declining as well. Very few teams exectue plays that doesn't involve 3pts every play.
Timberwolves have had one of the toughest schedules in the league, while the Knicks have had one of the easiest. Knicks have played 10+ more games vs teams below .500. It will all come down to the playoffs anyway for these two teams
You should have made a video about the Townes trade after it happened, being a Wolves fan and all. Why didn’t you? Ah you wanted to wait till well after it happened and to see it was an obvious bad trade. Thanks for the insight
They've won a few in a row but I'd be surprised if they won more than 45 games this season. Not a total disaster but the KAT trade was obviously terrible for the Wolves.
There is no cutting or ball movement. Ant really struggles to make plays for other people, he has only had double digit assists 6 times his whole career. Even when they win, they take much harder shots than the other team. Randle is a head down, bully ball kind of guy that rarely passes out of doubles.
KAT is best as a 4 as he is not a rim protector, which is why Minny got Gobert. Both players are great at one end of the floor but not the other. Randle needs the ball but is not an elite player. He is very good but to maximize his value you need to run the offense through him and he is no great shakes on defense. In many ways he is a stat compiler, Minny just could not handle three max players under the pending CBA. Gobert should not be a max contract given he is utterly useless on offense. He has bad hands and takes up space, clogging the lanes along with Randle.
Damn if only the T-Wolves had a 7 foot center with the shooting ability of an elite 2, post up game of Shaq, and elite defense… someone like KAT would really help this team……. Hmmmmm
Yeah, people were cutting him way too much slack. Now we stuck with a one dimensional big on the downside of his career and no draft picks. When I saw the Kat trade ...I'm like well at least we got a bunch of first round draft picks back. But no, only 1 heavily protected pick 😫
@@ckobo84 dude he sucked in denver too. Lucky with jokic. Every mock draft out there had Murray going top 7 and he fell to us at 7. Everyone knew how good porter was but it was risky because of his back and he fell to denver at 14. Most GM's in the league would have made the same selections in those positions. Connely also refused to trade barton for years and he was a bum. The nuggets and wolves are both in tough spots, traded away all our picks for average teams.
Julius and Gobert will never work on the same team. This was a disaster trade from the beginning. I understand it was a salary cap decision but they look like hot garbage now. No chemistry at all
The problem is obvious. A one man offense and the one man is iso only, no passing required. That and wolves are a turnover machine. Tha's a Randle issue. But he's shooting well.
As a Blazers fan, I'd love to see Twolves trade Randle and some picks for Grant. I think it would flip the switch back for Minnesota and Blazers wouldn't have a problem pretending he's injured to keep him off the court.
The Wolves currently have no first-round picks to trade, other than a heavily-protected one they got in the Knicks deal. So unless you mean you want Randle and a bundle of 2nd-round picks for Grant, you're barking up the wrong tree.
@@rileymcphee9429 They can't trade the 2028 pick, because Utah is getting both their '27 and '29. The NBA won't allow trading out of the draft in consecutive years. They also traded their '31 to get Dillingham.
Nobody is ever in the paint!! Four people in the paint?? Haven’t seen that for 20+ years. He wants to throw up the three ball like the rest of the league. True basketball is done. They should rename it Three Ball and move on. The rules don’t matter, the fundamentals don’t exist, you don’t need a dominant center cuz they just sit out guarding the other big guy at the three point arc, the officials are a joke (particularly if you breathe on a Laker), the all-star game is ridiculously stupid, and the commissioner has let this game fall apart like it has. It’s a shooters game now. Nothing more.
Let us not forget that the Knicks play in the bubble bath Eastern conference. It’s like the B division. Not to mention he is in a big market so gets all the attention now. Both are big negatives about the NBA.
I thought these players are soooooo good offensively than previous generations? How come they can't get to the rim without their bigs unclogging it for them??? Make that make sense
Timberwolves didn’t beat the Nuggets. And they most certainly didn’t hold them to 35 points in a half. They held them to 35 in a QUARTER. Master troll.
Made some great points but I had to comment when I heard KAT as the best shooting big of all time. That is sooo disrespectful to Dirk. His jumpshot took down like 10 hall of famers in one finals run? C'mon bro.
should never have traded Kat, he took the backseat so ANT could excel , would not expect randle to even consider doing the same
Kat streched the floor now the bigs can sit because theres no threat of 3 i really dont understand the wolves here
They were more interested in cutting wages than having a competitive team.
It wasn't a basketballing, but rarther financial decision.
Kat really showed his value by leaving
Not a superstar if you depend on other players
@@konzza but it really tells you everything you need to know about their FO.
They had their best season in 20 years, and the First thing they do after that --> cut payroll.
You tanked for a decade got a number 1 pick and you tanked for another 5 sealsn and got another number 1 pick and both were all stars… and only gave the team 1 playoff run… failure of an org
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Shouldnt be a surprise. KG endured this team. Didnt do anything for him.
Excellent point
Yeah.... and the one you traded, plays one of his best seasons ever. Actually, IMO, he should even be in the MVP discussions, if he continues (read: stays healthy) to play like this the whole season. I'm a Wolves fan, but been watching Knicks for few seasons (because of the Brunson story) and man... this season's been really entertaining to watch, KAT fitted like a glove into that team.
Meanwhile the season Wolves are having now, after the stellar previous season, is just painful and sad to watch. Not gonna stop for rooting my favourite team, but man what a f-ing mistake, no matter what the cost would've been. Literally from a contender team back to a "not sure we're in the playoffs this year" team... 😵💫
@nachoviking that's why I don't get why people complain when players don't stick to their first team. If you stay there for years and they do nothing for you, then you owe them nothing. You do your part and are one of the best in the league or even the best but they fail theirs. That's why you can't judge players based on if they stayed with their teams forever because only 2 players in history deserve credit for that and it's dirk and duncan
Can we just acknowledge, that the new salary cap failed its purpose? Remember: it was supposed to enable small market teams to compete with the big guys. Now the Timberwolves break up their promising core after 1 good season, because they can't afford to pay the 2nd level luxury tax. So they traded KAT for a shorter contract. Meanwhile, the Knicks just said "fuck it, we can afford to pay that luxury tax for multiple seasons"... Well done.
And yes, the luxury tax is the only reason, why the Wolves made that trade.
We also have guys like Brunson taking wayyyyyy less money than he could have.
@@SGT_Gram🎯, an extra 100M’s can do a lot
Incompetent ownership led to this .. the gobert deal tied there hands with all the picks given up they would face guaranteed backlash for trading him off for pennys after his horrendous Olympics play. They had to choose between KaT or Rudy and now ruined Edwards next few years unless he’s traded and sent them selves back into irrelevance. They don’t even have most of there future picks either lmao 🤣 horrible
blame adam silver's stupid ass, it was his idea
@@patrickm6483 problem is their is no real ownership right now becuase of stupid glenn taylor
As a knicks fan I wanna say thank you to the Timberwolves for KAT
Let’s not rub that in too much having been on the other side of it with the Eagles and my Giants just take it in stride
Thank you for what? Y'all ain't winning shit lol
Trae Young also wants to say thank you to the Knicks for handing over the keys to the franchise
Dude, wait… wait… 1. Look at KATs playoff stats. He does great during the regular season. Always has. Falls off during times of stringent D. 2. Thibs Thibs Thibs…. With KATs injury history. You really don’t want KAT playing heavy minutes. It’s a recipe for disaster.
As a Wolves fan thank you for Randle who’s been good all season and now for Donte who’s on 🔥and winning us games
Julius is one of those guys who spoil everything they touch, dude has bad energy
This 🎯🎯🎯
He literally is a big reason the Knicks even became relevant again lol casual
@@michaeljoel6822really not bro it was Brunson that put Knicks in the talk . Randall is shit bro a talented shit
@@michaeljoel6822no he’s not. Jalen Brunson and Trae Young have done more for the knicks than Randle lol.
@ Was Brunson on the 2021 Knicks? thought so
3 games above .500 with half a season left isn't quite what I'd describe as a disaster.
What record Knicks have? 😂
@siulmarih26 NYKs are 13 games above 500. They are good. But Minnesota made the move to save money, not increase wins. They are saving money. I'm sure they'd be happy with wins, but if winning was important to the owners of the TWolves, the team wouldn't have sucked for so long.
@@3tp makes sense.
Di Vincenzo was the X factor of this trade. But somehow Chris Finch hasn’t been able to utilize him correctly, which is embarassing for a coach of his resumée. As for the Knicks, they’re title contenders imho.
Good point about finchy, reps taken a hit this year
Knicks not beating cavs or celtics
@ Knicks have two superstars. Don’t rule them out so quickly.
@GangstaViolin but thats it man and jalen not a superstar he's a star knicks only plat 6 people
@@GangstaViolin kat only getting those numbers cause they only play 6 people
Dirk is the best shooting big of all time, not an old head, just a realist.
Overall but when it comes to 3pt shooting its KAT and its not even close
@@djandrews168good thing you're allowed to shoot other places than from 3 then eh?
It's a matter of if you mean "BEST shooting" or "best SHOOTING" big.
@@cw442 let’s get this out of the way, while KAT can hit threes better than most centers people know about. There have been better SHOOTERS, at the big man spot. Two names come to mind, Tim Duncan and Dirk, two of the deadliest mid ranged assassins ever. Shooting ain’t just about throwing up threes.
@@Slumpster-w5gwho is the better shooter, Steph or Demar Derozan (because he hits midrange more effectively)
Kat ain’t better then dirk
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I remember getting into an argument with someone who believed the Wolves were Julius Randle’s team after the trade with New York. No matter what I said about Anthony Edwards’ leadership, stats, and status in Minnesota, he would not relent and kept pushing for Julius Randle with the Wolves. Now this was before the season started, so I wonder what that guy is saying now 🤔
Also remember some Wolves fan straight up arguing them having "insane cap-flexibility" now 😳
Never happened
Seriously, both statements are lies. Wolves don’t have insane cap flexibility but they have enough to re-sign Naz and Naw which the team seems to consider priorities
@@konzza cap flexibility for what, they are in a shit state/ city, they have never acquired a big free agent. I don’t get stupid small teams like that, develop the talent and trade them makes no sense
@@taxationistheft7 What do you mean? Minnesota is literally one of the best places to live. Strong economy, low crime rates, kind people. The reason the wolves have never acquired a big free agent was because their teams were never really that good... the timberwolves are a star away from a top 3 seed. I doubt stars would rather sign with other teams when they could sign with the wolves and immediately shoot up in the rankings.
Please don't forget about Dirk lol
The fact that they had the best year arguably in franchise history and they traded their #2 option for Julius Randle is insane. Donte has been so mid
Your comment is not ageing well and will continue to get worse
@ 😂😂😂 I posted it yesterday t wolves are a play in team this year
if Minny is a disaster then what would u call my Kings
Viviked
@bartekino 😆😆😆 sad to say Vivek should just sale the team to much competent owners i wanna see the Kings battle every year for respect and championship
Dumpster fire 😭 DW my sixers are horrible too
Chemistry in the nba is more important than any sport basketball is all flow
Crazy how one season and a trade can deter a team
As a Clippers fan I feared the Wolves last year.
in that run where the Clippers were hot last season; we beat every team, even the Celtics. But only team we couldn’t beat were the Wolves and their annoying defense.
I’m actually surprised they didn’t make it to the Finals
everybody talking about how NYK got the Towns, but the most important thing that NYK got from that trade is they got rid of Randle
Why is it so hard to understand that KAT was sent away because of money! Small market teams deal with these types of decisions all the time😂
Why are you playing spooky music? Feels like I'm watching a true crime documentary
Ant is shooting 15 threes a damn game. Also he's not thr 2 way player we all thought he might be.
He doesn’t even take 10 a game, he takes about the same as Wemby. And he’s still one of the top rated defensive guards in the league
thats not the problem, hes a good 3 point shooter he just doesnt have enough other moves
@@chadwellington2524 ant is a 3level scorer. stop it
And he’s shooting 41% from 3. I don’t think Ant shooting and making threes is the problem.
@joshmorgan5933 idc what he's shooting from 3. That's trash and it kills the game. Same with Victor web. Straight trash
People must not be following, but Donte seems to finally be turning it around, he’s had 3 bigs games in a row and the wolves are 3-0 with wins against Dallas, Houston and San Antonio
Hopefully they can continue cuz their next match is okc 😅😅
@@mawmawWaffles - okc and then Boston right after that
@@nydibs ouch 😅😅😅😅 now that s challenging 🤣
Should never given McDaniel that contract and let rudy golbert walk instead of extending him
Gobert has his worth even though he looks goofy. I remember people non-stop saying KAT should be traded and look how that worked out.... The truth is ANT ain't ALL that
The most funny thing is that Anthony looks like he doesn't have a care in the world, 😂😂😂😂
That’s what I’m sayin. I think he’s afraid to call out randal
He's give up being the 1st option that's it. He just give it to randle and i'm an ant's fan
Shit I wouldn’t either if I was him, either he says and pressures the decision makers to make a better trade in the future or he goes to another team with a decent system and does what he does best
@@jjking8577Ant’s not afraid, he’s been blasting the whole team in the media relentlessly. It does 0 good to single out one player
Calling KAT the best shootng big isnt that controversial consodering how poor he is at standrad big man duties. He plays like a gaurd for better/worse.
This year KAT has been great in the pick and roll, and is leading the league in rebounding. Add a plus 40% 3 point percentage and that’s an elite player. He’s also a super underrated passer. He’s not a good defender at the 5 but he’s an elite offensive big
KAT is dripping with talent. They messed up so bad.
KAT is still bad in the playoffs don’t get me wrong, but he had some decent games in the playoffs last season. Randle on the other hand is just a disaster in the playoffs, he is an empty calorie scorer and complements no one
KAT was pretty good last year overall tho and he can learn always. He only did bad in the series they lost not the first 2 rounds. Randle game on the other hand is inherently team cancer. Even if he learned to not choke the Knicks would never win with him
@@kevinchang232 he’s having a career year this season. Just look at the wolves record vs the knicks. It might be a bit lopsided because Donte divencenzo is playing pretty bad this year so far.
That Kat trade will haunt them
The problem isn't "spacing", it's the lack of skills. Take Anthony Edwards as an example. He wants to either dunk/layup or shoot a three. He refuses to shoot a midrange jumper and and cant figure out when to pass the ball. Plus, he's got the Embiid disease. He's dumpy. Watch him huffing and puffing and not running past half court at the end of games. This is what the AAU generation has given us with players who think that they're owed that big paycheck rather than going out to bust their ass to earn it. 🏀 🇺🇲
Might be time to trade him to the Celtics for Tatum.
Not one of those things are true about Ant. He’s been taking plenty of mid range shots. And he just hit the game winner against Houston. Not many players play both sides of the ball like Ant does
I can tell you don’t watch Ant if you think he doesn’t shoot midrange
You ppl were saying he's Michael Jordan's son last year 😂
The problem is julius randle sucks nd should not be on an nba team. He is melo that never had the talent a black hole that doesnt play defense with a bad attitude
KAT being the best shooting big may in fact be one of the worst takes of all time
you can’t even argue it, go ahead
You dont watch basketball
@RyuuseiBlizzard if you knew me you'd realize that's the second dumbest comment ever made. Yall just butthurt over a dude who don't even know you. I think I know why
@@jasonmccallop6605 Dirk's career high 3pt attempts per game for a season is 4.9. He just cannot compete against *elite* modern day shooters stats-wise. And if you *watch* basketball, you'd realize Towns shots threes of a higher degree of difficulty, and more versatility (stepbacks, pull ups, etc.). Not to mention that he beats Dirk in efficiency AND volume. It's not even a discussion.
This goes with a lot of older shooters. They're great. They were pioneers. Put them in today's game and their shot profiles would potentially be different, however they did not play in today's game, so they don't compare in a lot of cases statistically. That doesn't mean the respect ain't there. But also means people gotta stop being stuck in the past.
Shooting is one of the things that's quite quantifiable. And even if we take it to simply eye-test, KAT clears even harder as a shooter.
@RyuuseiBlizzard come on man. If YOU really watched basketball and knew the actual history you would know Dirk didn't shoot 3s like how KAT shoots 3s. If he did it wouldn't even be close.
Julius Randall is the one big friend who swear they a guard🤣
Classic overreaction in this video and the comments. They made a major move and it’s going to take time for them to figure it out. It happens with nearly every team that makes a big trade. It’s not even halfway through the season, and the west has been extremely competitive. They could go on a single winning streak and suddenly their record would look good and be among the best in the west.
I’ll save my overreaction until later in the season.
I trust you bro, ANT WILL PUT OKC IN CHOKEHOLD🤣
This is par for the course for the Timberwolves, going back to their first years with the acquisition of "Trader Jack" McCloskey. All GMs and operations guys in this organization (and really, all Minnesota sports franchises) fit the British phrase "too clever by half."
That means that in thinking they're smarter than the average bear, they make the stupidest trades and moves while thinking they're these incredible brain wizards. The Wolves' leadership has been outwitting themselves for four decades. No wonder other teams' GMs happily take a call from the Timberwolves. They know they're going to get a great player or great piece without having to give up anything of worth to get it.
Add to that, the owner is about 180 years old and made his money in envelopes. Envelopes! This team is a toy to him. Glen Taylor literally sits ten feet away from the team during games, with his trophy wife by his side.
They're a laughingstock. They always will be. Just an absolute joke of a basketball team.
i really see the point, but the 2nd Apron is scary and when Karl-Anthony "one of the best stretch big, but disappear in the playoffs" Towns make more than 50 mil a year... that's a scary position and i understand why the Wolves have done that. The situation tell us now that it was a bad trade, but at the moment i really understand and respect the risk taken
Literally my teams problem. They never should have traded Kat. He was a key player. I thought the players looked up to him as a leader. He took the backseat so Ant could excel and when Kat was in the game he def helped them alot. Everytime we get a star player like Him or Garnett it always ends bad with them either getting traded or they request to be traded. The past 3 years or so we got higher up the ladder. And I really thought we would have made the championships this year. Then they traded Kat and I knew it was all over. You can't expect just one star player to change everything instantly. Even with sports being "scripted" to a point. Even when refs do their job terribly. You can still see a good team with alot of talent overcome hardships like that. And minnesota doesn't understand needing to build or take a couple seasons to build your players up. I'm still going to be rooting for my wolves but I knew the success that we had last year wasn't going to last (I'd like them to turn around and have faith but being a fan since Garnett and watching this thing happen alot. Go figured it would have happened again)
3:14 “KAT is the best shooting big of all time” I think Dirk takes the cake for best shooting big IMO
strictly 3 point shooting it’s KAT, but dirks fade alone makes him a better overall shooter
Thank God that's just your opinion 🙏
DAMNNN I didn’t know they traded that much for gobert tffffff
The first thing I said when the trade happened is that twolves are gonna regret it. He’s a great addition defensively but when it comes to the playoffs he drops off and the fact he can’t do nothing offensively makes it worse. Jazz got rid of him for a reason.
great vid. subbed
Gotta keep in mind, when Kawhi was traded to the Raps he was coming into a team that already had high chemistry built from years of playing with one another. Chemistry does matter a lot and is the biggest factor NBA teams disregard
They should do a "my problem for your problem" with the Nets & trade Randle for Simmons, his contract expires at the same time and at minimum he's a better defender ball passer then Randle and can play a Bigger Draymond Green Role
1. Donte DiVincenzo
2. Anthony Edwards
3. Ben Simmons
4. Jaden McDaniels
5. Naz Reid
6. Rob Dillingham
7. Mike Conley Jr
8. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
9. Luke Garza
10. Rudy Gobert
If it doesn't work, you can simply bench Simmons, and you won't feel bad about it
Knicks fan. You said what I love most about Towns, he ALWAYS gives effort. Sure he’ll make some dumb fouls but like I’d take that over being unfocused on both sides of the court when your shots not falling. I will always appreciate what Randle did for us and I think he gets too much hate cause he’s not even a good fit with the timberwolves as is
We will win this trade. Randle had been good all season and now Donte is playing very well also
@JCStorm76 are you always this delusional or is it only with basketball
@@CheepsAhoy69 I will be right. When I am I’ll be back to remind you
Kyle Anderson was an underrated loss for this team. He’s superfluous on the Warriors but really did fill a Draymond-like role with the Wolves: the non-shooter who could create space with cuts, passing, and IQ.
Let's just accept not all team will be a champion every year. Stop comparing and complaining. Hopefully Knicks hopefully will win the chip this season.
If the knicks win they will have to shut nyc down ❤ parrrrrtyÿyyyyy
they're quite impressive this season,i think they need 1 more star like J.Poole or Fox
Greg Ostertag is better than Gobert.
I mean, not really, but Ostertag made it to the finals with the Jazz twice.
Gobert just got his ass traded. 😂
Ostertag with Stockton and Malone coached by Sloan, compared to Gobert and D.Mitchell (his early years) coached by Snyder. Ostertag better than Gobert for that? So Zaza Pachulia better than Ewing, Malone, Garnett, etc... Your way of seeing things is terrifying.
Waiting to post this till the wolves are 3 and 0 in the last 3 is definitely a choice
Im confused how are timberwolves cooked? Their only 3 games out of 3rd place lol the kings is a disaster not timberwolves im not a wolves fan but this bs video is a reach they dont even have a losing record this video just for bs views
I didn’t even bother watching it
@@JCStorm76 weird the kings pelicans trail blazers and 76ers have good teams with horrible records those r disasters not t wolves they have a winning record
@@ApoloWilliams Exactly
should have waited to make this video for when the title actually applies....like at the end of the season if things really fell apart. teams make adjustments early on and the timberwolves are trying to get their new pieces to work together the best and figure out the right rotations. Their defense is still really good. I like the additions of Julius Randle and Donte. Julius Randle is a much better threat in the paint and can create more opportunities for the offense. Kat going to the rim resulted in way to many offensive fouls because he just didn't have that finese. Randle is much quicker on the court and more effective i feel and is consistently getting 20+ points this season. He can't shoot the 3 like Kat does, but i think he makes up for that with his other play.
Edward just keeps crying like a baby
No, he’s saying it how it is in the moment. The team has a lot of work to do.
send da video
@@chrisschaeffer9661 Randle is a ball-hogger.
Facts
@@Wolfywolf7You don't have to tell the media how you feel about everyone
If more videos like this are regulated the NBA will bounce back
He need another star player to take pressure off him. Someone like De'Aaron Fox would take them to the next level.
Bad owner is the problem. The organization needs to change.
I’m not ready to write the final chapter on this trade yet. It’s like my greatest ever rule. Wait until the player has been out of the league for five years. You’ll have a more clear picture.
I’m hoping this plays out better than it looks so far. And we don’t know what will happen with Randle yet.
Towns is awesome teammate his body language is awesome
Ant and Kat had chemistry...Ant and Randle will soon have physics.
Timberwolves winning a championship
We were all wrong about KAT. He’s a much better player and person than we thought. End of story. Trading him highlights all his contributions on those Wolves’ teams, the stuff that doesn’t show up on the stat sheet.
KAT never led the wolves to the playoffs, only as 2nd fiddle. He looks good in NY now bc they have Brunson, Mikal, and OG 3 borderline all stars
Like I've said a million times before, There's nothing head scratching about the KAT Trade. Second apron got added couldn't afford to keep him. "WeLl WhY DiDn'T ThEy TrAdE GoBerT?!" If that's your honest reaction stop talking about trades because you know nothing about the GM world of Basketball. Rudy Gobert could not be traded anywhere in the league, Without ADDING SOMETHING VALUABLE ALONG SIDE HIM. I.E First Round Picks, One of Our Starters or Naz Reid, Etc. If you think they could've traded Gobert instead of KAT Then you need to tell me a trade based around Gobert where the timberwolves don't lose the trade and where the other team still realistically says yes to getting rudy gobert.
The wolves traded 5 first round picks for Gobert. Makes it seem even worse now
@ Name 3 nba players better the. gobert traded in the last 2 seasons that have taken their team further then the conference finals. 4x DPOTY walking double double lob threat screen setter that averages like 60% from the field for a career. Just say you don’t know ball?
Randal need to be on the nets , kings , Miami ,Jazz where he can play his own style
Thanks Minnesota for taking Randall and giving us KAT!
Aside from KAT trade, the problem is that the wolves are settling for 3pt shots and the team doesn't know any other play style. There is no floor spacing and they are all out here playing pickup ball. Hell, this is why the NBA is declining as well. Very few teams exectue plays that doesn't involve 3pts every play.
The wolves coach is terrible. It all starts with him
You made great points about KAT. I wish they never traded him
They are still above 500 let's wait and see what happens man it's pretty early
I'm a Knicks fan and I'm very happy we got KAT but Minny is 16-14.. a disaster? 😅
Middle of the nba is basketball hell, especially for a team with no picks, and one that was a couple wins away from the finals. Yes it’s a disaster
That record might look really good if they're in the east unfortunately for them they're in the west
Timberwolves have had one of the toughest schedules in the league, while the Knicks have had one of the easiest. Knicks have played 10+ more games vs teams below .500. It will all come down to the playoffs anyway for these two teams
Last year was a one year wonder for the Timberwolves
"KAT is the best shooting big man in my opinion"
And to think I almost subscribed.. lol
Old heads ain’t going to get mad at you for that statement. Old school centers were never tasked with shooting until very recently.
You should have made a video about the Townes trade after it happened, being a Wolves fan and all. Why didn’t you? Ah you wanted to wait till well after it happened and to see it was an obvious bad trade. Thanks for the insight
Who peed in your Cheerios, sweetheart? 😂
@@mosessupposes2571 you did now
The Wolves have won 9 of 13 games with all 13 games against teams with winning records.
Deadass and they only 3 games out of third
But the next two are OKC and Boston. Wolves have played the least games vs teams below .500, Knicks have played 10+ games more vs losing teams
9:51 not totally dissing KAT, but last year I remember so many games where he was in foul trouble in the bench.
They've won a few in a row but I'd be surprised if they won more than 45 games this season. Not a total disaster but the KAT trade was obviously terrible for the Wolves.
There is no cutting or ball movement. Ant really struggles to make plays for other people, he has only had double digit assists 6 times his whole career. Even when they win, they take much harder shots than the other team. Randle is a head down, bully ball kind of guy that rarely passes out of doubles.
KAT is best as a 4 as he is not a rim protector, which is why Minny got Gobert. Both players are great at one end of the floor but not the other. Randle needs the ball but is not an elite player. He is very good but to maximize his value you need to run the offense through him and he is no great shakes on defense. In many ways he is a stat compiler,
Minny just could not handle three max players under the pending CBA. Gobert should not be a max contract given he is utterly useless on offense. He has bad hands and takes up space, clogging the lanes along with Randle.
I’m subbed my guy 👍 props from Russia!
Utah owns four of their picks till 2029. What a fleece
Damn if only the T-Wolves had a 7 foot center with the shooting ability of an elite 2, post up game of Shaq, and elite defense… someone like KAT would really help this team……. Hmmmmm
There's no way Edwards should be leading the league in three's when he should be attacking the rim mostly.
Imagine giving up 4 1sts for Rudy and then trading KAT for a ham sandwich. Tim Connelly is a bum
Yeah, people were cutting him way too much slack. Now we stuck with a one dimensional big on the downside of his career and no draft picks. When I saw the Kat trade ...I'm like well at least we got a bunch of first round draft picks back. But no, only 1 heavily protected pick 😫
@@ckobo84 dude he sucked in denver too. Lucky with jokic. Every mock draft out there had Murray going top 7 and he fell to us at 7. Everyone knew how good porter was but it was risky because of his back and he fell to denver at 14. Most GM's in the league would have made the same selections in those positions. Connely also refused to trade barton for years and he was a bum. The nuggets and wolves are both in tough spots, traded away all our picks for average teams.
Julius and Gobert will never work on the same team. This was a disaster trade from the beginning. I understand it was a salary cap decision but they look like hot garbage now. No chemistry at all
Mid season...there not a bad team. They match up real well with alot people. But they need more offense. Defensively they can shut anyone down.
Should of kept kitty
Everyone used to clown him at Minnesota now he’s a legend. Give it a rest.
@@samevans1672no diddy
@@samevans1672 a "legend" lol stop
"Just pass me the Goddamn ball" - Anthony Edwards
The problem is obvious. A one man offense and the one man is iso only, no passing required. That and wolves are a turnover machine. Tha's a Randle issue. But he's shooting well.
KAT got a bad rap being around two alpha’s in Butler and Ant. Now he’s part of the most unselfish crew in the league and thriving… LET’S GO KNICKS
They never solved their PG problem. In 2024 Mike Conley is not a starter. And Randle is another story in itself.
3Ws streak. A little bad timing bud 😂
Just subscribed
As a Blazers fan, I'd love to see Twolves trade Randle and some picks for Grant.
I think it would flip the switch back for Minnesota and Blazers wouldn't have a problem pretending he's injured to keep him off the court.
The Wolves currently have no first-round picks to trade, other than a heavily-protected one they got in the Knicks deal.
So unless you mean you want Randle and a bundle of 2nd-round picks for Grant, you're barking up the wrong tree.
@@twincitiestara Fanspo says they have the 28 first still and a bunch of seconds. That UTH second in 2025 will be very valuable
@@rileymcphee9429 They can't trade the 2028 pick, because Utah is getting both their '27 and '29. The NBA won't allow trading out of the draft in consecutive years. They also traded their '31 to get Dillingham.
@@twincitiestara dang, thanks for nothing, Fanspo!
Grant is not better than Randle in any way
I just don’t understand why you give up so many picks when your best player is in like year 3-4
trading KAT for Ladambuss Randall was an insane suicide move
I mean they're not a disaster. They just did really well with kat.
Rob Dillingham trade looking better and better for Los Spurs
Nobody is ever in the paint!! Four people in the paint?? Haven’t seen that for 20+ years. He wants to throw up the three ball like the rest of the league. True basketball is done. They should rename it Three Ball and move on. The rules don’t matter, the fundamentals don’t exist, you don’t need a dominant center cuz they just sit out guarding the other big guy at the three point arc, the officials are a joke (particularly if you breathe on a Laker), the all-star game is ridiculously stupid, and the commissioner has let this game fall apart like it has. It’s a shooters game now. Nothing more.
Nah that kat trade makes absolutely 0 sense for the wolves only for the knicks lol
Let us not forget that the Knicks play in the bubble bath Eastern conference. It’s like the B division. Not to mention he is in a big market so gets all the attention now. Both are big negatives about the NBA.
Ant ain’t Lebron . But imagine LeBron, who’s strongest offensive ability is his drive saying “it ain’t there” the greats make it happen
Couldn't happen to a better young cocky, arrogant, know it all, disrespectful to his Elders, lil PUNK. Good for you.
Julius Randle is a means to an end. I trust Tim.
I thought these players are soooooo good offensively than previous generations? How come they can't get to the rim without their bigs unclogging it for them??? Make that make sense
3 games out of home court... "Disaster"? Swish the clown.
Timberwolves didn’t beat the Nuggets. And they most certainly didn’t hold them to 35 points in a half. They held them to 35 in a QUARTER. Master troll.
They should have got rid of The other Center.
Made some great points but I had to comment when I heard KAT as the best shooting big of all time. That is sooo disrespectful to Dirk. His jumpshot took down like 10 hall of famers in one finals run? C'mon bro.