The mass takeoff footage blew my mind when I first saw it many years ago, it still impresses me today, as would not be allowed today. This video was brilliant thanks for posting 👍
Agreed! Especially with that crosswind--you can see the windsocks horizontal in the background-- blowing that one B25 right over the cameral. I was in San Carlos (the little beach town on the coast where this was shot) last October had a view of the cliff McWatt crashed into from my bedroom window.
I liked the realism in the movie where there were no gunners in the tail position during t.o. Dad was a B25 tail gunner in WW2. He sat in the waist with the waist gunner/radio operator during takeoffs and didn't even get into the tail until they approached the combat zone.
Always loved the b-25 since I can remember. Bucket list crossed off with a ride on Panchito! Fantastic sequences in catch 22. Amazing. No CGI! Nice hearing behind the scenes from one of the pilots.👍
As a kid I walked around this shooting location a few years after the movie was released. It was still pretty much intact and looked like they had just wrapped and left the day before. Great memories...
I was in Guymas with my Dad in our 195 Cessna when the whole flight of B-25’s flew their downwind and landed… They parked wingtip to wingtip with our 195… WHAT a Sound…WOW… Fingers in ears…some had the early short stack exhaust….
When the Memphis Belle was dedicated at static display in Memphis back about '86, the remaining three B-17s still flying did a fly over and I watched from the roof of the hotel where I was working at the time. Just three made such a thundering sound, I thought about what it must have been like to hear a whole flight over Europe.
It remains a dream to fly on one, fly one maybe a stretch for me... Our chat with Bob Reierson was enlighting in this regard. The B-25 was his advance twin-trainer.
Years ago I worked for Keith Larkin, who owned one of the B-25s from CATCH 22. He kept it at Watsonville, CA, airport. I got to go inside it once, but did not fly in it. I'm 6'1", I remember being very cramped, almost claustrophobic inside the airplane. Still, it was a great privilege, great memory!
Up until the late '90's, there was a B-25 that sat at Van nuys Airport, and back in the mid '80's, I got to go for a ride in it. Found out years later, it was one of the "Catch-22" birds! Dunno where that B-25 moved to, but it's not at Van Nuys anymore.
@@damcasterspod That's probably it, but I don't recall it having the giant shield painted on the tails back in the '80's: I thought it still wore it's "Catch-22" livery, but found a pic of it in '77, in a bare metal USAF scheme. Funny thing is, to be honest, I don't even know the name of its owner at the time! I worked at a place that restored AT-6's, and either flew in with a friend to visit the Condor Squadron, or was there with another friend with a Beech-18, to pick up some parts, and whomever I was with knew its owners - who we bumped into, and they asked if I wanted to go for a spin in a B-15, and I answered "HELL YEAH!!!" I mean, what teenager would turn that down?
I was a copilot in one of the B25s with DonHackett on the movie. Lot of crazy dangerous flying. We also had our PBY civilian landseair amphibian on the movie set in Guyamas. Don got Parmount studios to pay for us to fly it down as an “ airsea rescue” plane but only used it to take movie people on side trips during filming breaks down Baja. I have a lot of good photos to share if anyone wants
As much as I, and it sounds like y'all, find the movie to have major problems, I am still endlessly fascinated by it. The DVD commentary with Steven Soderbergh interviewing director Mike Nichols is insightful. He definitely admits its flaws in hindsight. That should still be available somehow. Also, Nichols technically had one of the larger bomber forces on the planet compared to most countries at the time.
at timestamp 32:19 / 48:25 is a White /Grey B25 with "MM" . . This was Milo Minderbender's plane . . A pilot who became a rich underground smuggler. . The plane was flown to Pittsburgh in the early 70's in a traveling airshow as "MM", then got repainted as "Daisy Jean" it retired to Route-19's Forest Lawn Cemetery . . .It disappeared one year. . and I read that it was bought by the "Confederate Air Force" and is still flying, repainted once again under a new name.
I was billeted in a 1 star hotel in the Philippines one night in the mid 1980's.The roaches were so thick that we had to sleep with the light on. Good times (not).
Louis Zamperini. Not a real book-fan but was on Amazon? 10 years ago and picked out a couple WW-II books that had interesting stories. They were both about the same guy's story. A few years later a movie came out about it. Out on S&R with a tired old B-24? and in the drink, in a raft for a month...and then the Japanese picked him and a raft mate up...and then it got BAD! I think the movie was titled 'Devil at my Heels'. Both great books, and a great movie.
I hold out hope for a decent aircraft movie in the future, I think it just needs the right people. Masters of the Air got lost in itself but you never know Peter Weir may get round to using those Lancasters he built for his take on The Dam Busters.
Yes, I still read paper books !! These ebooks are too irritating to "own" and lose constantly on the whim of your reader. Real, bound books, do not disappear in the night. !!!!!!
I love the B-25 in the movie I heard that movie saved a lot of B-25 from the junk heap. I do not like the bad movie or the stange book. The only reason I would sit through the movie is to see B-25's fly. A d thats is the best part.
The mass takeoff footage blew my mind when I first saw it many years ago, it still impresses me today, as would not be allowed today. This video was brilliant thanks for posting 👍
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Agreed! Especially with that crosswind--you can see the windsocks horizontal in the background-- blowing that one B25 right over the cameral. I was in San Carlos (the little beach town on the coast where this was shot) last October had a view of the cliff McWatt crashed into from my bedroom window.
I liked the realism in the movie where there were no gunners in the tail position during t.o. Dad was a B25 tail gunner in WW2. He sat in the waist with the waist gunner/radio operator during takeoffs and didn't even get into the tail until they approached the combat zone.
I love the opening minutes of Catch 22 where the sun slowly rises, then engines start, HUNDREDS of engines then the bombers taking off!
Well lets say one can hear hundreds of engines , in fact there were far fewer B-25 on set.
But a great beginning , thats true.
Always loved the b-25 since I can remember. Bucket list crossed off with a ride on Panchito! Fantastic sequences in catch 22. Amazing. No CGI! Nice hearing behind the scenes from one of the pilots.👍
As a kid I walked around this shooting location a few years after the movie was released. It was still pretty much intact and looked like they had just wrapped and left the day before. Great memories...
I was in Guymas with my Dad in our 195 Cessna when the whole flight of B-25’s flew their downwind and landed… They parked wingtip to wingtip with our 195… WHAT a Sound…WOW… Fingers in ears…some had the early short stack exhaust….
Super jealous here! That SOUNDS amazing :D
When the Memphis Belle was dedicated at static display in Memphis back about '86, the remaining three B-17s still flying did a fly over and I watched from the roof of the hotel where I was working at the time. Just three made such a thundering sound, I thought about what it must have been like to hear a whole flight over Europe.
Great interview, love what you guys do.
If you’ve ever flown a B-25 you’ll know why it has the reputation it does. It’s a bomber that thinks it’s a fighter. What a great aircraft.
It remains a dream to fly on one, fly one maybe a stretch for me... Our chat with Bob Reierson was enlighting in this regard. The B-25 was his advance twin-trainer.
Years ago I worked for Keith Larkin, who owned one of the B-25s from CATCH 22. He kept it at Watsonville, CA, airport. I got to go inside it once, but did not fly in it. I'm 6'1", I remember being very cramped, almost claustrophobic inside the airplane. Still, it was a great privilege, great memory!
Very cool interview. Now im going to go watch a movie.
Up until the late '90's, there was a B-25 that sat at Van nuys Airport, and back in the mid '80's, I got to go for a ride in it.
Found out years later, it was one of the "Catch-22" birds!
Dunno where that B-25 moved to, but it's not at Van Nuys anymore.
I think that was 44-30748/N8195H which was Miss Renee in the movie and was repainted as Heavenly Body. She is now in Oregan with Avenger LLC.
@@damcasterspod That's probably it, but I don't recall it having the giant shield painted on the tails back in the '80's: I thought it still wore it's "Catch-22" livery, but found a pic of it in '77, in a bare metal USAF scheme.
Funny thing is, to be honest, I don't even know the name of its owner at the time! I worked at a place that restored AT-6's, and either flew in with a friend to visit the Condor Squadron, or was there with another friend with a Beech-18, to pick up some parts, and whomever I was with knew its owners - who we bumped into, and they asked if I wanted to go for a spin in a B-15, and I answered "HELL YEAH!!!"
I mean, what teenager would turn that down?
I was a copilot in one of the B25s with DonHackett on the movie. Lot of crazy dangerous flying. We also had our PBY civilian landseair amphibian on the movie set in Guyamas. Don got Parmount studios to pay for us to fly it down as an “ airsea rescue” plane but only used it to take movie people on side trips during filming breaks down Baja. I have a lot of good photos to share if anyone wants
That is brilliant, Mark! Thanks for sharing. Are you one of the guys that Stoney says he still chats too?
incredible podcast, outstanding!
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching.
As much as I, and it sounds like y'all, find the movie to have major problems, I am still endlessly fascinated by it. The DVD commentary with Steven Soderbergh interviewing director Mike Nichols is insightful. He definitely admits its flaws in hindsight. That should still be available somehow. Also, Nichols technically had one of the larger bomber forces on the planet compared to most countries at the time.
Fidel Castro got worried thinking the US were preparing another 'Bay of Pigs' invasion of Cuba with those aircraft.
Books are always better than any movie!
I lived not too far from Tallmantz Aviation and remember the day some B-25s flew out in a loose formation, possibly down to Mexico.
at timestamp 32:19 / 48:25 is a White /Grey B25 with "MM" . . This was Milo Minderbender's plane . . A pilot who became a rich underground smuggler. . The plane was flown to Pittsburgh in the early 70's in a traveling airshow as "MM", then got repainted as "Daisy Jean" it retired to Route-19's Forest Lawn Cemetery . . .It disappeared one year. . and I read that it was bought by the "Confederate Air Force" and is still flying, repainted once again under a new name.
Louis Zamperini, "Zamp" was the main focus of the 2014 movie "Unbroken" directed by Angelina Jolie.
I was billeted in a 1 star hotel in the Philippines one night in the mid 1980's.The roaches were so thick that we had to sleep with the light on. Good times (not).
Louis Zamperini. Not a real book-fan but was on Amazon? 10 years ago and picked out a couple WW-II books that had interesting stories. They were both about the same guy's story. A few years later a movie came out about it. Out on S&R with a tired old B-24? and in the drink, in a raft for a month...and then the Japanese picked him and a raft mate up...and then it got BAD! I think the movie was titled 'Devil at my Heels'. Both great books, and a great movie.
There was Angelina Jolie's film Unbroken with Jack O'Connell too about Zamperini. Not great but O'Connell is always watchable.
we'll never have a real flying aircraft movie like ever again, given CGI, state of the art computer vfx
I hold out hope for a decent aircraft movie in the future, I think it just needs the right people. Masters of the Air got lost in itself but you never know Peter Weir may get round to using those Lancasters he built for his take on The Dam Busters.
I'm not trying to make you jealous...really! But I have a signed copy of Catch-22. Signed by Joseph Heller, of course.
I'm... Not... Jealous... At All.................................
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Cameraman killed during filming
We discuss Johnny Jordan in the episode.
Yes, I still read paper books !! These ebooks are too irritating to "own" and lose constantly on the whim of your reader. Real, bound books, do not disappear in the night. !!!!!!
I love the B-25 in the movie I heard that movie saved a lot of B-25 from the junk heap. I do not like the bad movie or the stange book. The only reason I would sit through the movie is to see B-25's fly. A d thats is the best part.
Are you referring to Jessy Ownes
Louis Zamperini was the chap
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He's too old to fly? I have a friend who just hung his wings at age 97!
I skip the first two minutes to avoid the beta-male music.
As there is only 15 seconds of music, I appreciate your dedication for skipping as much as you did. :)
Overlong introduction.
Nice one!