The SECRET to PRECISION no one wants to practice
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2022
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If your playing is shaky, amateur-feeling, and lacking in precision and control, then this lesson is for you!
These common problems leave you feeling like you’ll never sound and feel as solid and musical as your favorite drummers, so we’ve got to fix this.
Employ this “secret to precision” that honestly no drummer wants to practice, and I promise you your playing WILL become precise, controlled, and full of musical dynamics. YOU CAN DO THIS!
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Another Great Video Stephen. Very helpful to this Old Timer (71 yo). I'm a newer Beginner to Intermediate drummer, having resurrected playing after 50 Years [1969]. I learn a great deal from your videos. I did learn that a bit of Neuroplasticity helps with strengthening that left hand. It's a little of Muscle Memory. Someone else recommended that you should use the slow hand (the left for me) for everything in your daily life: Brush your teeth, drink your coffee, and so on. It does work I find. Then of course, there are many exercises that you show. Learning stick control is vital to improving.
Well done, old timer! I'm another (71 in 2 months.) Not such a long break as you but I'd only been playing for a couple of years. I didn't feel like playing after my husband died. But I'm ready to have fun again. Getting those fundamentals dusted off is exactly what I need.
Thanks, Stephen.
@@lauraroberts2250 , Welcome Back!! Sorry to hear the passing of your husband. It was my wife of 45 year then in 2018,[now 48 years as HS Sweethearts] that gifted me a Cheapo drum kit (Gammon) for Xmas 2018 after hearing me say that "I would like to go to a local Music Studio, just the bank on their drums for a few hours" earlier that year. I'm now retired, as of May 2021 after a long term disability from Chronic pain & stiffness of spinal arthritis, OA in my hips, knees, neck and fingers now too. I play to MY Music about 1 hour a day, in the latter part of the day. One thing that I have come to learn since re-commencing the interest, is The Beat is In You. Watching these videos has taught me lots about Drum Heads, Tuning, etc, that I know nothing of back then in 1966 when I first started. Thank You Ringo, Charlie Watts, Dino Dinelli (Rascals), and later Bonham, Moon, and Baker.
@@Chiroman527 We are a lucky generation. Not only was there all that great music but we married with the expectation of staying married. I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Your wife clearly loved you to the max. Giving you your wish to bang on the drums anytime you liked. I had the same kind of love for 50 years.
Like I said, we are a lucky generation.
Keep banging them skins, Old Timer!
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Oh, and here's my tenuous claim to fame:
I kissed Keith Moon.
I love seeing posts like this! Very inspirational. I’m 56 and hadn’t played in about a decade after playing on and off since HS. I bought a drum set and got my own rehearsal space (basically my man gave). Keep rockin people!
Susan10573 The advice about the "slow" hand is so true; a couple of months ago, I had surgery on my right shoulder and had to keep right hand mostly immobilized for several weeks. When I started playing drums again (I'm 68) after having to do everything with my left (weak) hand... I had improved significantly in my stick control.
I'm 71. I took beginner band in the 8th grade. Me and the other 6 beginners played on practice pads most of the year. It was nice to practice at first just letting sticks bounce. Then, go to snare drum later on. 🎶🎸🎼
Great video. As an older player, this kind of practice has been really important to me for playing longevity as well as just better playing. I am reminded of a story an old drummer friend told me, from back in the day; he's free practicing at a jazz camp in Woodstock, NY. This guy was a very good player, and he's wailing out some hard bop chops. Jack DeJohnette walks by the room, then comes back and sticks his head in. He says -'That sounds really great. If you can play it softly, then you'll have something.'.
people reading this comment, believe me: this is THE epiphany and THE game changer.
huge props to every drum teacher on yt that made me better all these years, but only this controlled, quietest and slowest possible tapping had really put my weak left hand in order in about a week, from nervously twitching all over the pad to literally feeling in full control yesterday, when it finally came to rather feeling and barely hearing the most precise, resolute and steady strokes i ever tried in my life. it is really the basic starting point even before full-down-tap-up and ANYTHING is effortless after mastering this simple exercise. stephen clark, you made my hand technique 100% better than i was a week before, thank you all the way to skies and back (serbian proverb) 🏆🥇
I was a good rock drummer who applied to a music school and got accepted. It was a shock to me because I had to learn to play the drums all over again. That time made me more humble and ten times better. It was all about playing soft but good.
Another great video!
I like how you take the time to explain things and show us details. Something that isn't mentioned that often is how long it takes to learn and fine tune these skills. We are so used to seeing drummers playing awesome and don't always appreciate the time that goes into learning. It takes time to learn something and get good at it.
I bought a moongel practice pad and a set of snare marching sticks. All that slow / light non bounce practice I do every day now, it's made a HUGE difference to my playing.
Great lesson Stephen.... I’ve been playing drums a while but never really learned the connection between more fluid wrist control and being able to play longer and still control the dynamics. As a young drummer I was an arm player just because I didn’t know any better! Your lessons have helped me so much! Thanks again
This makes sense to me I’ve been doing this naturally as part of my practice routine and notice the difference. Playing with the precise amount of energy required to get desired notes is a good way to optimise your technique
Really liked this lesson, but how does this work with the traditional grip?
I recently spent a lot of time speeding up my singles and I found that playing very quietly was hard and required a more solid grip but did indeed pay dividends. Now most of my rudiment practice when cycling dynamically includes playing very quietly indeed. Nice to see a lesson on exactly this :)
This is exactly how I learned to do a real smooth crush/buzz roll. Thnx
Great advice, as a sax and flute player have found that by playing softly I am able to bring much more expression to my melodies and am able to really create a beautiful sound that the audience really appreciates.
When I was attending the famous Lynn Oliver Workshops, Lynn would teach how making the metronome disappear was very effective way to develop great time. By hitting two drum sticks together to play along with the metronome, the goal was to make the metronome disappear for as many beats as you could. When you were in synch with the time the metronome became inaudible. By practicing this I developed the kind of accurate time that earned me the nickname “the human metronome “ from Suzanne Ciani, whom I worked for in commercial recording.
I am sure that this idea can be greatly expanded upon by drummers and their instructors.
Lynn Oliver also taught music s to improve their intonation with a similar concept. By matching long tones played on your instrument with a recorded long tone, you will make the recording “disappear “ when you perfectly match the pitch. This is the basic technique behind vocal removal software.
Fantastic. This will really help. Thanks Stephen
Great video! There is no substitute for practice. One of the cold, hard facts of playing an instrument. 👍
I appreciate this! I was just complaining how there's so few videos on this subject of "quiet' technique, which to me is the best of Buddy Rich and Tony Williams. Give it the middle finger and let the wrist do the rotating!
That crescendo up and down is as cool if not cooler than a groovy fill.
such a great teacher...thanks Stephen!
I needed this. Thank you!
this is good man. thank you. youre a really good teacher.
Thank you Stephen. I'm going to give this a try.
wow great demonstration of the dynamic volume with the decreciendo/crecendo exercise. Gonna try that out thanks alot ^^
Great vid dude!
Yes. I'll get to practice this technique all night tonight at my restaurant New Years Eve gig. I also tension my snare drum on the looser lowet side and put a handkerchief over the edge. But in the end it's the technique that counts. 🥁❤️
what a nice piece of information! thank you very much Stephen
Thanks Stephen, good stuff 😁👍
Great! Tks for sharing
yep .. the loose grip when I try to play quietly ,, feels 'flappy', hate the feel, like I'm not really in control of it. This is very helpful, thanks. The counterintuitive thing makes sense in that it's like the thing where speed comes from learning to play clean at lower speeds. Maybe drumming is just full of counterintuitives!
Hi Steven I like the idea of some slow practicing thanks Allan Happy New Year to you and your family
stumbled into this by accident. Didn't want to disturb neighbors but still wanted to practice. So I worked hard on playing soft. Noticed I was gaining serious control. Now I play primarily with that "Middle fulcrum" you mentioned. It's like compacting the Moeller move down to just the wrist. Add fingers for me the pinkie finger and a wrist whip, and I can still play pretty loud..
Great video, would u be able to do a video on hesitation/ interrupting the beat flow and getting back in sync to your beat on time after hitting a crash or making a snare statement and not getting back in properly? Another idea might be for trying to keep a same sounding beat when moving from snare to toms and back. I just noticed that one factor is the tightness and make of the skin make a huge difference in the bounce factor and therefore u have to adjust/compensate for the sonically different surface. Thks
I play a just little drums sometime for fun ... but this lesson is _GREAT_!!! Playing fingered bass is also about having control over both fingers. And play evenly is key for a more professional level. And also for guitar with a pick - upstroke/downstroke - this is a great practice idea with playing alternating patterns (drums, bass, guitar, ...) with crescendo and descrescendo! Will do this as bass excercise - and can be applied to ... maybe every??? ... instrument? Loved and liked, Best regards, Stefan
I’ve noticed my left hand which is not my dominant hand bounces around more after hitting the pad and on a double stroke roll than my right hand. The right hand stick stays in the same spot more or less.
Great video. My weak hand is the right hand. I’m experiencing difficulty with getting the three fingers that move the stick to be the same as the left hand. This video is helpful in a way for me
I found switching to French grip and using all fingers provides better control when playing very softly and you can still get pretty good rebound, whereas "American" grip played very softly, even when you tighten your fingers up, doesn't provide the same control and you lose rebound.
Letting go of the stick with all of the fingers is hard to get your brain around, but you can't hold it like a club or the response/rebound for doubles never clicks, and that's the lick than needs to get synchronized in both directions for the catalogue rudiments to become musical. At least that's what I found
Happy New Year Stephen, thanks for the year in drumming just gone. Here’s to 23‼️🥁✌️🌻
THE best lesson ever.
Boy Howdy, practicing this is worse than an algebra test.
But! After two 30 minute sessions I can see the value in it. It’s definitely a challenge to play that softly and be consistent.
Thanks and Happy New Year!
😅
I want you to make a video about a problem I’m facing with: the stick of my left hand sometimes touches my leg.
I play on a v-drum td-30 and I hate to say but I prefer an acoustic set with a bigger snare.
Playing for a while now but every now and then I get a shakey feeling with my kick playing. Instrument is def not easy despite the beasts out there online. But some days are good and that makes it worth the struggle mostly.
seems to be just what i need to train
Might be in another video, my fulcrum is my index finger, I noticed yours is on the next finger. Am I seeing that correctly? And if so could you explain why? Thanks!
If you really want to practice as soft and quiet as possible, use your head as a drum pad. I just started doing this to be silly, and then found it to be very helpful in truly feeling how soft or heavy your strokes are but i wouldn’t suggest loud dynamics haha
Absolute beginner here, (at 62), only playing a month. I put a timer on to practice the strokes. Over the course of the 2 minutes I go through phases of even, then 'gallop', then back to even strokes. All the time I'm trying to focus on the weak hand, but stay relaxed. It's tough. Is it just regular practise, or is there something else I should get my brain on to even up the strokes? Thanks. I am using the weak hand mini course, too.
I've been playing wrong, I think, and my left wrist hurts. I can't find anyone to tell me whether to lay off for a few days or just to keep going? Would be grateful for your advice.
I never received the email for the course. Not in inbox or junk folder. Thanks
I play like this a lot, although it's not something I ever explicitly practiced on a pad but rather something I developed through playing quiet, fast (110+ QN BPM) one handed 16th notes on the hihat, or fast quiet 16th ghost notes on the snare.
The advice to play with the fulcrum further up the stick, however, is something I disagree with entirely. If you want to develop control then you want the fulcrum as far back on as you can while still keeping all your fingers in contact with the stick. The smaller motion and additional weight both facilitate control. If it's too awkward at first, just play slower.
So what you're doing is giving more wrist control for the lower dynamics and less finger/rebound?
To me the hardest thing is to believe that it will get faster and louder. I practice stuff like this a lot but I'm not that good at using the exercises for more than the actual exercise. So I guess practising more to music aswell will help the last part ^^
When you have to pump out videos every week it's hard to come up with things you haven't already covered. I believe by playing to a metronome and paying attention to how accurate your placement of the stick relative to the beats on the metronome will increase your accuracy and precision.
Stephen, love the ideas and tips, just wish you could be a bit more concise with the content. Pretty difficult to watch a 20-30 minute video when the topics could probably be covered in half the time.......
Shorter vids might equal exponentially more views.
I can think of 2 solutions here:
1. Watch the vid at 1.5 speed.
2. Get out your practice pad and follow along: hey you already got 20 minutes practicing what you just learned.
@@robinp124 Seems you missed the best solution, but thanks for your input.
Great advice, dull but essential
Sounds just like what I describe in my book.
I don't hate quiet practice or practicing quiet playing or playing quietly. Oh, and I loved math tests at school. So when you're saying is going to fearless like a math test... It sounds kind of discouraging to me. 😉
The drummer at my church is named Stephen Hudon and he looks exactly like you
Very interesting video, my drumer has recently managed to count to three ( 3 ) reliably. Is it possible to play rock and roll music at this stage or should we wait a few more years until a count of four ( 4 ) is achieved?
Me! I always want to practice quietly. I don't want the neighbors to hear my terrible drum playing. 😆
“Wrist with small motions”. Thanks.
🤣 I'm guessing that's the (short) video you wanted to watch?
Show how your grip change if you do accent every four or second stroke. Let see how your grip change every accent and ghost note.
There are no secrets, just practice👊
Yes Steve, another grip. You should write a book on your different grips and leave 20 empty pages for all the ones to come.
Hmmm, not quite my volume. I thought you'd be playing even softer
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both title and 1st half of the video are misleading, this wrist-control technique only applies to QUIET playing when the stick amplitude is too low to have well controlled bounce
How are you gonna give us a thumbnail with a red circle but no arrows, question mark or “youtuber-face” expression as accompaniment?
Traditional grip has always been better. Drum corp. Jazz, ect. Grace notes are easier with traditional grip.
5:10 and nothing 🥶
Hey, my idol drummer is Lars so i don't need this. Haha the joke's on you!
Hah
I have a baby so I only practice playing quietly.
I seriously doubt he is drumming with what you have circled.
I like math tests
BackgroundmusicisannoyingIgiveuponyou
Total BS. Show us and get to the point in 30 secs
You can do this...Wow
You make fall 😴 asleep