New Fallout Secret Lair Alert! Is Magic: The Gathering's Equinox 2024 Superdrop Worth It To Buy?

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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  Місяць тому +53

    I am giving away tons of unopened Secret Lairs from the past on my next Whatnot stream, this Tuesday, April 23 at 3:00pm Pacific! Just go to www.whatnot.com/invite/tolariancollege and get a $15 credit to spend on anything on Whatnot!

  • @pokinfunatcartman
    @pokinfunatcartman Місяць тому +295

    I'm not gonna lie to you, The floating head waiting there on screen made me think it was going to wait patiently until the professor finished speaking, and then Prof would go "You may proceed" and it would continue the "new secret lair alert!" meme.

    • @thomasfleming8131
      @thomasfleming8131 Місяць тому +13

      If leaving it floating there was supposed to make me uncomfortable, congratulations to the editors because it worked.

    • @jiratrello
      @jiratrello Місяць тому +2

      I was hoping for a new secret lair alert jumpscare meltdown mid-video

  • @MTHW4390
    @MTHW4390 Місяць тому +214

    I feel like the special secret lair was a missed opportunity. We could have had a Sorcery, Planeswalker, Enchantment, Creature, Instant, Artifact and Land instead of the mismatch of cards starting with the correct letter

    • @Cyber.Oni.Ink.
      @Cyber.Oni.Ink. Місяць тому +25

      That would have actually been so much better

    • @metalliholic
      @metalliholic Місяць тому +15

      Woah that would have been awesome!

    • @perehn8910
      @perehn8910 Місяць тому +7

      Mind = blown 🤯

    • @william4996
      @william4996 Місяць тому +2

      That's incredible.

    • @Welverin
      @Welverin Місяць тому +6

      Or cards that better represent the attribute they were supposed to represent.

  • @joedafire
    @joedafire Місяць тому +408

    SL leaving print of demand has saved me soooo much money. thank you wotc for not taking my money.

    • @Onattamato
      @Onattamato Місяць тому +20

      Don't worry, scalpers stepped in to give Hasbro the money you aren't.

    • @killbotgamma
      @killbotgamma Місяць тому +18

      Just make sure you don't buy them from the scalpers. Time to get some nice proxies printed.

    • @caled6913
      @caled6913 Місяць тому +5

      The good news is there is nothing worth rushing to buy! Pretty sure the junk mail they deliver to my house is "print to demand." I don't want that either, and the junk mail is free.

    • @biclopse8731
      @biclopse8731 Місяць тому +7

      I honestly gave a sigh of relief when I found out all of the Fallout stuff was gone, thank god I didn't even have the chance to be financially irresponsible 😂

    • @themoops4006
      @themoops4006 Місяць тому +7

      if they don't print-to-demand people don't have the chance to watch videos like this and actually think about whether its worth the value

  • @crownlessking6436
    @crownlessking6436 Місяць тому +454

    Make the NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT T-shirt already.

    • @JasonTerminator2
      @JasonTerminator2 Місяць тому +30

      Should pre print a certain number of them and then sell them for a set period of time. And add a random rare variant you get sometimes too.

    • @benriemersma8137
      @benriemersma8137 Місяць тому +16

      ​@@JasonTerminator2 nobody's ever printed a foil shirt think of how $$$$$fun/rare$$$$ it would be

    • @angelojohnson9441
      @angelojohnson9441 Місяць тому +1

      ZOMG it’ll match my tinfoil hat!

    • @savlassa7752
      @savlassa7752 Місяць тому +2

      @@JasonTerminator2 good mythical morning does this once a year and if you get the gold foil shirt you win 25K

    • @brianm2242
      @brianm2242 Місяць тому +5

      Too late; already sold out.

  • @gabrielamaro1470
    @gabrielamaro1470 Місяць тому +233

    WOTC doesn’t care that limited stock means less players get to use the cards. A dollar from a scalper is worth the same as a dollar from a player to them, and the FOMO just adds more fuel to the fire. I’m seriously dreading the Final Fantasy Secret Lairs next year if they’re released under this system. (But then again if they sell out instantly that’s less money for me to spend lol)

    • @ColorfulHelices
      @ColorfulHelices Місяць тому +4

      What a mood... good luck to us.

    • @tylerchristian2370
      @tylerchristian2370 Місяць тому +6

      They’d just get more overall sales if they didn’t do that though. This can’t be making them more money.

    • @MetalKingSlime
      @MetalKingSlime Місяць тому +1

      Being print on demand was probably cutting into that profit percent. Over time that number drops because money is being spent to keep those printers running for something that could barely be sold.

    • @themoops4006
      @themoops4006 Місяць тому

      just stop buying them and stop buying all universes beyond garbage

    • @bradm6287
      @bradm6287 Місяць тому +6

      It is honestly gross. It is so anti-customer for no fucking reason. It is like comic book level villain mean for the sake of it.

  • @STS-qi1qy
    @STS-qi1qy Місяць тому +46

    The problem with banking on FOMO is that it has minimal returns. It can work at the start but the more things you miss the less you care about trying in the first place. Eventually you just stop caring and bothering.

    • @xybaexpert1139
      @xybaexpert1139 Місяць тому

      Its where Im at currently. Lair came out on week I didn’t get paid, found out that week, jokes on me for not looking at leaks I guess.

  • @dylankovach9106
    @dylankovach9106 Місяць тому +73

    He forgot to mention the biggest reason fallout sold:
    There is a very rare chance you get a fallout art themed mana vault. Insane that now even secret lairs involve card gambling.

    • @AbGrinch
      @AbGrinch Місяць тому

      Fingers crossed brother 🤞🏻

  • @SirLanik
    @SirLanik Місяць тому +97

    Not only did they sell out super quickly, Wizards also sent out email blasts warning of LOW STOCK REMAINING just to further push people to buy it ASAP.

    • @brendans1983
      @brendans1983 Місяць тому +4

      Yeah, so that was new hey? I got it too, and didn't think I has seen it before.

    • @tmillerr90
      @tmillerr90 Місяць тому +2

      I mean wouldn't that be the best way to warn people thaf want it? Nd also remind those who don't pay that much attention to know it's no longer print to demand.

    • @johnathanwalker7781
      @johnathanwalker7781 Місяць тому

      That's what prompted me to cave and get the Rovina Cai one. If only because my brother's b-day is coming up, we were already building an Inalla deck together, and he expressed interest in the art.
      Glad I didn't wait until the morning after the low stock email though (I was thinking of sleeping on it but the FOMO was very real) because it was sold out when I woke up & checked.

    • @tmillerr90
      @tmillerr90 Місяць тому +1

      @@johnathanwalker7781 is it really fomo when you already wanted it? Seems the mail did it's job so you got your copy.

    • @brendans1983
      @brendans1983 Місяць тому

      @@tmillerr90 I don't think anyone was questioning email's ability to provide people with information. Which is what you seem to be trying to point out.

  • @l.m.c.s4102
    @l.m.c.s4102 Місяць тому +109

    NEW SECRET LAIR ALERT.
    PS. Love the academic got in on the kick starter and it's been the best deck box I've ever had in my 14 years of playing. Thank you for making it.

  • @smurfdismay3749
    @smurfdismay3749 Місяць тому +79

    Was super excited for the Rovina Cai drop.
    Was sold out by day 3 when I went to go buy it.
    Edit.Turns out it was sold out day one.
    Truly a miserable system.

    • @patrickchickey6428
      @patrickchickey6428 Місяць тому +6

      I tried to buy it same day and it was already sold out. So much for finally getting an non-foil Inalla printing for my wizards deck 😭

    • @falkenspeergroomofavacyn600
      @falkenspeergroomofavacyn600 Місяць тому +3

      If you wanted it, why didn't you buy it at the beginning?

    • @RicTakaden
      @RicTakaden Місяць тому +7

      ​@@falkenspeergroomofavacyn600 I'll take a stab and guess "Money", needing money tends to be a reason to wait.

    • @Ratchetfan321
      @Ratchetfan321 Місяць тому +2

      Sounds like you had a month notice to be ready and didn't do so assuming you could just buy it later. Sorry if people can't save up 30 or 40 bucks a month in advance you probably shouldn't be buying magic cards right now.

    • @ilikeapples1
      @ilikeapples1 Місяць тому +8

      ​​@@Ratchetfan321a month to save up for x amount of a mystery product that may or may not have anywhere from an entire drop full of lairs that appeal to you to none whatsoever, of which the one in question that the OP mentioned sold out within the first day. All of which is a supplemental side product in between a line of main product of which new releases have become so frequent the vast majority of players are complaining about wallet fatigue, which itself has just recently seen yet another price increase.
      And you're attacking the players and defending WotC? You seem ridiculously out of touch.

  • @MissingFish
    @MissingFish Місяць тому +27

    If I remember right, the Rovina Cai Artist Series sold out in *hours*, not days. This is a terrible change.

    • @oldpoppaburr5943
      @oldpoppaburr5943 Місяць тому +1

      They almost all did. Barely anything made it 24 hours

  • @Alexm920
    @Alexm920 Місяць тому +31

    I know they have business reasons for doing the limited print run, but the benefits of print-to-demand are very real. I think an interesting compromise would be to make the foil versions limited, and the standard print-to-demand. That would serve to make the foils more exclusive, which was the original intent of "premium versions", while also not locking people out for not taking a morning off work to refresh-camp a product page.

  • @TenguTalks
    @TenguTalks Місяць тому +34

    Hasbro: We need Wizards to exceed profits every single year (so we can balance our bugdet around it)
    Also Hasbro: Lets limit these products to maybe half of what we could have sold under the old model. That will surely raise our margins.

    • @5721porter
      @5721porter Місяць тому +8

      My guess is that the new model looks better to the investors. Instead of saying "We only sold this many", now they can say "We completely sold out!!"

  • @Ashtar2594
    @Ashtar2594 Місяць тому +9

    With the new system, me and my boyfriend have to pay close attention to upcoming secret lair news so that we don't miss out on things we want. We do set aside time on the first hour they go live to make sure we get what we want. But the most important part of our process is taking a deep breath, and really looking at what's being offered. We had so much fun opening the fallout collector packs that we were sort of riding that high into these secret lairs and wanted to get all of the fallout ones. But when I took a second to really look objectively, I found I had no interest in the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. secret lair. There's not a reason I needed to have those cards in the fallout art style. And instead, I found I really liked the diabolical diorama and the tarot card art even if they weren't incredibly "valuable."
    So I do agree with you. This system is horrible. Because while I can take a minute to soothe my feelings of FOMO and make decisions based off of what I truly want, not everyone else can. Although I'm doing fine getting the lairs I want, I much preferred the previous system.
    The thing I've despised the most about the new system is the scalping community and how it was impacted by the Angels deck. I really took my time deciding if I wanted the Angels deck. And decided to go ahead and order it. A few days later it was sold out. As I anxiously waited for my new deck with excitement, I saw SO MANY VIDEOS talking about how terrible the deck was, how it would need SO MANY upgrades. And I found that discouraging. When it finally arrived, I had an absolute blast playing it. I loved the art and love the deck. Well I guess everyone changed their minds because suddenly Angels was in hot demand. And the deck is still crazy high in the second hand market.
    Because of the unexpected turn around of the Angels deck, I see many secret lairs being panick-bought by resellers who missed the bag by not taking Angels seriously. And all it's doing is keeping people who want lairs out of their hands, but the lairs aren't ever going to have to resell power that angels has. So there's a weird stand off in the second hand market of scalpers trying their luck to make absurd profit, and normal people not getting to enjoy these cards

  • @zramirez5471
    @zramirez5471 Місяць тому +10

    The art in the tarot set is absolutely incredible - woulda been worth it if not sold out😂

  • @agentrexx
    @agentrexx Місяць тому +134

    Too bad half of these are sold out already, i really hate this limited stock BS

    • @riverroth3688
      @riverroth3688 Місяць тому

      Hah, you mean all.

    • @MosesSuppose
      @MosesSuppose Місяць тому +2

      @@riverroth3688Phoebe Wall and Diabolical Dilemma are both in stock still, both versions. There’s plenty of legitimate criticism of WotC to be had for this secret lair drop without making stuff up

    • @dshockeybreaks
      @dshockeybreaks Місяць тому +13

      @@MosesSupposeevery single other lair drop besides those two are sold out. Not printing to demand is so stupid it’s unbelievable.

    • @Aaackermann
      @Aaackermann Місяць тому

      @@dshockeybreaks You think "sold out" is stupid? Do you know how trading works?

    • @dshockeybreaks
      @dshockeybreaks Місяць тому +4

      @@Aaackermann yes, I think switching their model from print to demand is a very anti-consumer choice. The Prof also highlighted this in the video. Giving consumers time to decide whether they should buy it, and then supplying everyone with the product is far better than switching to a system that ends up with most new secret lairs being sold out within days or even less.

  • @BoldAndBrash5683
    @BoldAndBrash5683 Місяць тому +44

    Secret Lair should remain as the Timeboxed to demand model. They pretty much roughed out all of the kinks with shipping

  • @vaporousbeef
    @vaporousbeef Місяць тому +4

    A quick check on completed Ebay sales shows that every single Fallout Secret Lair is selling for at minimum twice what the retail price is. WOTC continues to burn bridges for short term profit gains with no care for long term sustainability.

  • @kennyc002
    @kennyc002 Місяць тому +7

    This will only get worse. By the time the Final Fantasy secret lair drops it'll require you to camp the website for even a shot at the secret lairs as more and more scalpers catch wind and start botting the website. The goal is to eventually concentrate fomo to the point where people can only choose to buy instantly or miss, with no time to deliberate. It'll be worse than the 1-day drop when secret lairs first started.

  • @timothylowther5417
    @timothylowther5417 Місяць тому +47

    New Secret Lair alert! and oh .... almost everything is sold out already. Yeah WoTC.... This is a good model..... Welp if you want phoebe wahl's showcase or the diabolical dioramas than I guess you still have a shot. Dont worry WoTC you can use underhanded tactics like FOMO and encourage scalpers.

  • @Doofindork
    @Doofindork Місяць тому +25

    I was actually for once gonna buy the Rovina Cai secret lair, because I thought that the art style is just that gorgeous and even if it's not worth the price, I figured I'd go for style over profit card wise. Buuuuut it was sold out, so I guess I'm not doing that then. Sigh.

    • @the_mt703
      @the_mt703 Місяць тому +1

      Yeeaaahhh, told my LGS that if they get one, I’m buying it on the spot. Absolutely adore the art, and I don’t have a wizard tribal deck yet so that could be fun to build around!

    • @ilikeapples1
      @ilikeapples1 Місяць тому +1

      I was heavily considering that one but it sold out before I made up my mind. Oh well, guess Wizards wants less money from me.

    • @jordanriri3219
      @jordanriri3219 Місяць тому

      Same 😢

  • @psychedelicsewell
    @psychedelicsewell Місяць тому +5

    Value be damned, the amazing art from Phoebe Wahl is getting me to finally build an Alela deck.

    • @4vendetta1
      @4vendetta1 Місяць тому

      They look amazing for sure

  • @smoltobs
    @smoltobs Місяць тому +22

    As a lover of the Fallout universe and MTG for me it was less about the financial value than the art. I kept checking the website and once it was up I purchased the one bundle for every Fallout Card. It might have been an impulsive buy, considering I didn't take a proper look at the artwork. But since it was announced that there'll be 3 Sets, I was more surprised by the fact that there are even more secret lairs than the ones with Fallout Art. I kept enough money aside to purchase this bundle of three sets and I'm really excited to receive it in may! I must agree with the prof, that it's a less enjoyable way of purchasing secret lairs and as someone who struggles a lot mentally under these kinds of market mechanisms and pressure, I too am not sure on how I think about the future of secret lairs. Thank you for the great video as always, prof! 😊

    • @eewweeppkk
      @eewweeppkk Місяць тому

      As someone who plays a lot of magic every week and watches magic content creators, I had no idea what these secret lairs are going to be, when they would be sold, or that it wasn't print to demand anymore. If you can't handle seeing a product and being unable to pass it up, I'd recommend avoiding learning about these products altogether - it really isn't as had as you'd think it is in this environment. I think I saw the bojuka bog art and one other art like a month ago and besides that I had no idea when these secret lairs were going to drop or what was going to be in them. You need to take more personal responsibility about where your money goes and not blame mental struggle under market pressure.

    • @TheBaken
      @TheBaken Місяць тому

      Agreed- I was refreshing during the Eclipse watch party, waiting for the Fallout cards to go on sale. The artificial scarcity of both the collectors boxes and the secret lair are infuriating, and I think I’ll hesitate before diving into the announce Marvel sets in the future.

    • @Cyber.Oni.Ink.
      @Cyber.Oni.Ink. Місяць тому +1

      I am in the same boat than you. I just really like Fallout and, having recently started playing, a lot of these cards are some that I would have needed to buy anyways.
      I still think this model is absolutely terrible and it sucks to be forced to make a rush decision for a highly sought SL, especially for the full bundle

  • @levirynearson5800
    @levirynearson5800 Місяць тому +8

    I honestly figured you were just taking the week off for your birthday so dropping the video on Wednesday was a surprise.

  • @x100bullets
    @x100bullets Місяць тому +3

    What the hell Prof?!?!!!
    My favorite thing about your Secret Lair videos is the full sequence of floating heads screaming secret lair alert
    Please bring it back!! 🙏

    • @julioborjon4389
      @julioborjon4389 Місяць тому +1

      He would have had all the heads if they hadn't been sold out.

  • @NiltonFormis
    @NiltonFormis Місяць тому +1

    I simply LOVE how the professor is always so consumer oriented

  • @tcsmagicbox
    @tcsmagicbox Місяць тому +3

    The Rovina Cai foil secret lair sold out in 10 hours! Did manage to get the non-foil one before that sold out, too!

  • @ThatsJustGinaRose
    @ThatsJustGinaRose Місяць тому

    My boyfriend’s first CEDH deck was Inalla, and that’s still his favorite deck. He bought the precon and has upgraded it over the years and continues to upgrade it. He has put so much work and love (and money lol) into making that deck amazing and perfect for him. We were out for dinner on our first vacation together when they announced it, and he was already so happy and excited but that announcement made the night even more wonderful. He’d been waiting for an Inalla reprint for a long time. I knew in that moment that I had to get this foil set for him. His package arrived this past Friday, a day early from what the tracking said, and the look on his face was priceless. So, while it might not be financially worth it, it was worth every penny and more just to see him filled with that much joy. ☺️💞

  • @Limecakeful
    @Limecakeful Місяць тому +19

    Wizards releasing the Fallout mana vault chase card in these likely means scalpers scooped up as many as they could. Can't wait for all secret lairs to be sold out instantly and then resold for at least twice the price.

    • @ZegramZombie
      @ZegramZombie Місяць тому

      I got a few and I'm not a reseller

  • @brennanclement8582
    @brennanclement8582 Місяць тому

    I love the lip quiver and extra blinking on the new secret lair sellout alert face lol

  • @ricardogallegos4213
    @ricardogallegos4213 Місяць тому +1

    I follow these drops and honestly I hesitated due to the low financial value but I was most excited about the Art style of Rovina Cai. When I made up my mind to get it, it was the first one sold out. More glad for the artist then me bummed for missing out.

  • @nicolasfurger1032
    @nicolasfurger1032 Місяць тому

    I like some of it. I’ve already received my SLD I ordered on the day. I wish your videos came out before the day so I could make better decisions-I guess it’s not possible. Now I have to do my own research but such is life.

  • @charleshammel8541
    @charleshammel8541 Місяць тому +2

    "...and I can no longer tell if that's a good or bad thing" pretty much sums up my feelings on mtg lately

  • @adamallen5691
    @adamallen5691 Місяць тому

    Awesome video as always. I would have liked to have still heard your gradings on the sell outs. Maybe because I picked up one before they sold out or maybe because I just enjoy your gradings I don't know.

  • @leog7248
    @leog7248 Місяць тому +1

    Love the Phoebe Wahl art so much. I bought the non-Fallout SL despite knowing the value wasn’t really there

  • @fireslayer915
    @fireslayer915 Місяць тому

    I was pretty excited for the Cai drop. Added it to my cart and was waiting for payday. Gone by then. Sapped any excitement or interest in future drops immediately.

  • @kv2315
    @kv2315 Місяць тому

    yes i ordered the Stax Fallout in foil and i am considering the faerie one really just because of the artwork. i adore it

  • @Freeze_p0p
    @Freeze_p0p Місяць тому

    Surreal. I definitely tweeted Gavin about trying tarot style art for secret liars earlier in the year.

  • @BorisBidjanSaberi11
    @BorisBidjanSaberi11 Місяць тому

    The Phoebe Wahl art is going straight into my commander decks

  • @Hamond1989
    @Hamond1989 Місяць тому +2

    Gotta love the Professor for his honesty

  • @jeremystevens2045
    @jeremystevens2045 Місяць тому

    I got all of the ones that sold out before they sold out. I didn't buy them as soon as they went on sale, but I did pick them up the first day. Hopefully, they will continue to fine tune the process and increase the supply on the next batch of Secret Lairs.

  • @Rukalin
    @Rukalin Місяць тому +6

    Luckily I haven't been interested in any of the lairs for about a year at this point, but there will come a point where they'll make a lair I want and I'll try to buy it 10 minutes after release and fail. I know it.

  • @jschwab85
    @jschwab85 Місяць тому

    I got two of the foil chai secret lairs because I loved the art and I use the cards in multiple decks. I also picked up a walls one because I loved the art and I was blessed with a relentless rats bonus card from it!

  • @Tayahmaryanne
    @Tayahmaryanne Місяць тому

    So I did get the Inalla one because I love the art style, and because so far, secret lair arcane signets seem to hold value despite the availability of a basic version. I don’t hate the new strategy but I’m also someone who can check them out the day they release and am invested enough in the game/market to generally know what the value may be. I buy about one lair from every 1.5 drop events, picking my purchases based on a mix of my own appreciation of the art and trying to snag value cards. I also buy on behalf of my playgroup to save on shipping. I regret missing the original cats drop (I picked Bitterblossom from that batch) but otherwise I enjoy the product.

  • @TheVoxxification
    @TheVoxxification Місяць тому +1

    I just got the phoebe wahl one delivered today. I knew the card value wasn't there but I really liked the art.

    • @oldpoppaburr5943
      @oldpoppaburr5943 Місяць тому

      All of mine still just say being prepared.. which is dumb considering these were supposed to be sent out 3 days ago

  • @aelinstue9431
    @aelinstue9431 Місяць тому

    Love Fallout and was hoping to pick these up and didnt know i had to be on top of it day one to have a chance at getting it for retail. Love me some limited run products so people can buy them all out with the intentions of reselling for much more.

  • @kabobawsome
    @kabobawsome Місяць тому +1

    Love that all of the ones I would have bought are sold out well before I even knew they existed. I'd have bought Points of Interest, and the Artist Series: Rovina Cai.
    What a great move, Wizards, moving from print on demand to standard stock, now I just will never end up buying another Secret Lair ever again. If I wanted to, I won't even be able to. Just driving me towards making proxy versions of these cards even harder.

  • @thcatbob
    @thcatbob Місяць тому +1

    Got all 3 of the fallout lairs, was talking to my friend about how I liked the fallout art and he sent me the link to the lair and after briefly looking at the art got them. I didn't even know about the secret lair before he sent the link to it 😅

  • @zpinkerton7946
    @zpinkerton7946 Місяць тому +1

    I purchased an Aether Vial print. Artist did an amazing job but I'm not racing a scalper.

  • @ivernedit4132
    @ivernedit4132 Місяць тому

    I bought the stop motion ones for the derp aura shards and really liked the design.

  • @itsazombiethingsgaming1107
    @itsazombiethingsgaming1107 Місяць тому +1

    When ever they announced Mana Vault being included as a special possible card is what drove the fomo, it was going to sell out after that no doubt.

    • @itsazombiethingsgaming1107
      @itsazombiethingsgaming1107 Місяць тому

      I picked up 2 sets of the non foil Fallout mainly because it was the only Fallout left before being sold out. My hopes is to open a Mana Vault because I don't have one in my collection funny enough.

  • @nicholasbettis5527
    @nicholasbettis5527 Місяць тому +1

    I had the opportunity to buy all of the secret lairs. I didn't because there were no good "wow" have to buy packages and no value. I really loved the Rovina Cai art, but by the time I went back after weighing the need for the cards it was sold out. Which is fine. I don't need two more Arcane signets, no matter how pretty they are.
    (For those of you don't know, the mystery SL card is an alternate art Arcane Signet.)

  • @Chicken_PatPie
    @Chicken_PatPie Місяць тому

    I did manage to buy 4 non-foil bundles, but that was more to have them to trade or sell to friends in case they wanted to mull it over or if FOMO hit them. Only ones I wanted was the Fallout lairs, because Vault Boy is iconic

  • @Tater2018
    @Tater2018 Місяць тому

    Even tho financial value is low, I still picked up the Phoebe Wahl secret lair. I prefersonally love the art and can't wait to put the new copies of Alela, Swords, and Dockside into my Alela artifacts and enchantment deck.

  • @outsider8209
    @outsider8209 Місяць тому

    As a person who doesn't closely follow magic releases, I think I would've got the Tarot set. Such evoking art, I just wish there had been a bigger window

  • @lampwire
    @lampwire Місяць тому

    Having just made an Inalla deck within the last 6 months, I was stoked to see her get a reprint with this brighter, stylized artwork. Given print variation, I figured at some point I'd be able to find a copy of the 2017 version that was bright enough to where I could see everything going on in the artwork, alas, every copy I've found to this day is just as dark as the last. I of course was late to the party and missed the Rovina Cai sale as so many others did. Naturally, I go on TCG player and find that the normal printing is selling for $100 USD while the foil versions are selling for $125 USD. Nothing has taken the wind from my sails faster...

  • @alexanderzoukas5959
    @alexanderzoukas5959 Місяць тому

    I nabbed a foil points of interest for my mothman deck. I wanted to have as many fallout related cards as possible and that seemed to fit the best. I got super lucky

  • @samuelbemis8304
    @samuelbemis8304 Місяць тому

    my partner picked up a couple on the monday they released while i was at work, I think the change is /fine/ though it was nicer being able to think on it more before grabbing, luckily it was pretty obvious (at least this time) as we buy by art styles instead of value

  • @JustSomeLady91
    @JustSomeLady91 Місяць тому +1

    The fairy collection is beautiful.

  • @vincenziofaciana6411
    @vincenziofaciana6411 Місяць тому

    I waited in the digital line 20min to get my hands on the fallout secret lairs. Didn’t look at the others since I imagined they’d be sold out by the time I had more money to spend on cards.You’re completely right on the limited stock being a sales tactic really. Honestly shame. The Sheldon spellbook secret lair was pretty nice though.

  • @russelldouglass9501
    @russelldouglass9501 Місяць тому

    I didn't realise the secret lair this time was a limited release. So while I was figuring out what I wanted to buy and how much to spend, they all got sold out. So I agree with your take on this failure of an outcome for the secret lair and how it was handled.

  • @mattmarshall1442
    @mattmarshall1442 Місяць тому

    Wow! I love all these new arts to go into my proxy collection!

  • @darthkoo5000
    @darthkoo5000 Місяць тому

    I brought 2 of the 3 Fallout ones. I wanted the one with Lightning Bolt, and the other one is most likely to have Mana Crypt as the bonus card.

  • @Ratchetfan321
    @Ratchetfan321 Місяць тому

    Bought the only one i was intrested which was the stax cards in foil lol. Love the new system since shipping issues are basically gone and my cards hold value instead of the market being flooded.

  • @unanon_user
    @unanon_user Місяць тому +1

    I was thinking about grabbing that science deck. could grab the fallout reliquary Tower and throw that in there, since it does have thought vessel. redundancy win.

  • @stephenbradford8524
    @stephenbradford8524 Місяць тому

    I started checking the storefront on the equinox to see what the sales were. Of course, the drop didn't actually drop until well AFTER the equinox, so all the valuable lairs were sold out by the time I got there.

  • @duckster_2092
    @duckster_2092 Місяць тому

    I actually got the foil vault boy set. It should be delivered tomorrow according to ups anyway. I'm super excited to build a staxx deck with it and play it only once. Lol

  • @ThisAreOr
    @ThisAreOr Місяць тому

    I will say Faerie Artisans is a fantastic card and it was over $20 just a few years ago do to no reprints and they have reprinted it about three times and it is now extremely available its still a really fun card.

  • @MaximumCarter
    @MaximumCarter Місяць тому

    Can't believe all the stuff you gave away on the last whatnot stream. I'll be there!

  • @corpsegardengaming2720
    @corpsegardengaming2720 Місяць тому

    I don't like the new system, but I did get the foil fallout bundle. I usually punch all the prints into a folder on tcg player before deciding what to buy. Usually, most recent printings and foil availability first. Not every SL is worth the price but shouldn't be afraid to buy what you think is cool!

  • @Automation.Records
    @Automation.Records Місяць тому

    I got up to purchase the secret lairs right when they went on sale, but I got sidetracked and forgot, but I remembered in the evening and was able to order them all no problem. I do wish these were print to demand though, people want the cards, just print enough of them for everyone who wants them.

  • @CausedEel667
    @CausedEel667 Місяць тому

    I managed to pick up a nonfoil super bundle the day after the drop came out. I should have nabbed two because I plan on giving a couple of the Rovina Cai cards to a friend for his birthday.

  • @griffonsarcade
    @griffonsarcade Місяць тому +1

    I want that reflecting pool so bad. Guess I'll be looking for a second-hand copy eventually.

  • @michaellavella2377
    @michaellavella2377 Місяць тому

    I got the three artist drops. I loved the tarot and fairies art so got them for art value (which I put at an A+} not financial. Then I added the diorama drop because it got me over the free shipping and only cost 10 bucks when you took away the cost of shipping from it.
    I agree the limited production is a bad thing. As far as value, I never really care about the finance side. To me secret lair drops are chances to get pieces of very cool art to play with. If I love the art and use the cards I'll get it every time.

  • @joeyteodosio707
    @joeyteodosio707 Місяць тому

    I only ordered the Rovinia Cai secret lair since the art is insane, but i also know that’s partially because i literally logged in during my lunch break at work the second it went live to order it. While i like getting secret lairs sooner, id much rather go back to print to demand so everyone could get the secret lairs they wanted

  • @AC3handle
    @AC3handle Місяць тому +1

    Hey, these sold out sets are making it easy for me to save money now.

  • @coreysierchio4650
    @coreysierchio4650 Місяць тому

    Back in 2020, I purchased the Thalia Secret Lair because I was inspired to make a mono white budget Death & Taxes deck after watching SaffronOlive & Pleasantkenobi pilot such decks.

  • @louisfitting4449
    @louisfitting4449 Місяць тому

    Hey Prof. I was planning on picking up some of them but since they are sold out, that changes those plans. I also will not pay marked up prices for a secret lair. So guess I’ll be buying less secret lairs now a days.

  • @MatchaDough
    @MatchaDough Місяць тому

    I’m a fan of the limited print version run as I no longer have to wait 6+ months to receive a product I ordered.

  • @TandoCommando96
    @TandoCommando96 Місяць тому

    Picked up diabolic diorama and stax secret lairs. Was honestly expecting everything to be sold out by the time i decided to pick something up,(was about 3 days after release) maybe they upped the printed quantities?
    Would prefer they be print to demand so everyone who wants em can get em.

  • @IntenseHamster
    @IntenseHamster Місяць тому

    I really liked the look of the Rovina Cai Secret Lair and considered picking it up. I ALMOST impulse bought it when it was available, but couldn't swallow the $10 shipping. For non-foil that's $40 for 4 cards including an arcane signet. Honestly if shipping really costs $10 they need to change their packaging. I suspect the actual reason shipping is $10 is so that they convince people to spend $100 to get to free shipping.

  • @gsmastermike
    @gsmastermike Місяць тому

    I bought the Sunlight and Moonbeams Bundle Foil Edition at 9am and then I went to work and came home at 6pm and was able to buy the Fallout Bundle Foil Edition after deciding I wanted that too. I don't mind the limited supply drops if it means I get cards faster.

  • @Tedywestside
    @Tedywestside Місяць тому

    I was able to order the fallout pack in time. I do like the art for them and I hope to include them in my decks.

  • @TimmytheSorcerer
    @TimmytheSorcerer Місяць тому

    Wow, you almost hit the 1 million!! Insane

  • @JaysonPrime
    @JaysonPrime Місяць тому

    I got the bundle of the Fallout secret lairs in foil for the free shipping. I like to build decks with constraints, so the Fallout decks will ONLY contain cards with Fallout art. I am excited to add these cards to my fallout commanders and I plan on keeping them for pod-play. They're fun to play with each other, just like the Warhammer decks were.

  • @Hyprborean
    @Hyprborean Місяць тому

    I was lucky enough to get the vault boy edition foil before it sold out, most of the others were already gone by the time I got home from work and could order

  • @Jonihansi334
    @Jonihansi334 Місяць тому

    I was hsppy to grab the Fallout Secret Lair. It's my first Secret Lair and I like Fallout very much and I'm going to play that cards.

  • @Ironbl00d
    @Ironbl00d Місяць тому

    I hate the fomo I really do but this, with the fallout secret lairs, I've finally purchased my first one. The only way I was able to get them was in the bundle for all three and I had been keeping my eyes open and ear to the ground for anything fallout mtg related and even signed up for the emailing list.

  • @Theoutlander7
    @Theoutlander7 Місяць тому

    I pre-ordered the non foil Fallout secret layer cards (mainly because of pringling), though when I pre-ordered the cards, I was able to see which cards I was buying on the mtg site

  • @masonseets1682
    @masonseets1682 Місяць тому

    Proff has me second-guessing ordering this secret lair, but I wanted the winter orb from this set😅

  • @Teh1ucalljon
    @Teh1ucalljon Місяць тому

    The first time I was ever interested in a Secret Lair, the Rovina Cai Lair was sold out in less than 24 hours. Really hoping my LGS manages to get some.

  • @rosemarysamick9005
    @rosemarysamick9005 Місяць тому

    secret lair products got me into magic, i became interested in the junji ito secret lair as someone who had never played the hobby, i wasnt sure about the value even for that drop back then, but now that ive picked all of them up as singles i regret not buying it back then. i own a few other single secret lair cards as well as the compleated planeswalkers and the hydra secret lair from last year which i got at my LGS because they were just sitting on the shelf for almost a year and i really wanted the Sorin.
    since getting into the hobby i look very closely at each drop, since there are quite a few that i missed out on before i was a player that i fear ill miss now. usually, however, the case is that every secret lair ive been interested in has such horrible reprint value that id rather just buy a plain boring copy from my lgs...along with 20+ other cards for the price of a typical non-foil secret lair, because ultimately its about playing the game.
    drip always comes secondary to me so it often comes down to just buying as many budgets singles as i can afford and then any extra money left over goes toward cracking packs from the latest set and proxying the high power or never reprinted cards that i need. in a world where i have to think "wow i wish i could own a few playsets of fetchlands" its really really hard to spend $30+ on 4 cards valued at $10 for foil standard printings...

  • @sebastian__castellano5340
    @sebastian__castellano5340 Місяць тому

    I’m a fallout fan, when the cards were announced/ came out I did my research quick and bought them. I think it encourages people to get them if they really want them quickly.i have a friend who was on the fence and now wants to trade for wasteland 😬

  • @zangoose312
    @zangoose312 Місяць тому

    I would've been so keen for the Rovina Cai secret lair but that's cool I guess, saves me money

  • @Inspectornills
    @Inspectornills Місяць тому

    Man, would have loved those fallout cards for my fallout decks. I just like building on-theme.

  • @Roarwind
    @Roarwind Місяць тому

    I have not secured a single Secret Lair Limited drop that I have actual interest in since the Limited print became the norm. I was so happy to grab Sheldon's Spellbook, but I don't think that one was limited. If it was, I missed a massive controversy.

  • @Beowulfgang_Amadeus
    @Beowulfgang_Amadeus Місяць тому

    For the record, the foil aether vial is currently listed as pre-sale on TCGplayer for 79.99 each.

  • @TheManaForge
    @TheManaForge Місяць тому

    I really wanted to get the tarot like ones. They are so pretty! They sold out far to quick before pay day 😢😢

  • @johnsheridan6027
    @johnsheridan6027 Місяць тому

    I’m so happy that I got this for my partner, he just got into magic and he loves fallout too