It’s really crazy to see the insane skill top players at a hero have that even when nerfed or are bad still make them work, another example is like zbra, even if doom is bad he is still good with him, cyx just built dif
@@ipodnano962 Thanks to the nerf to Hog's oneshot, his kit is actually better against tanks than it is against squishes. So that, along with the Winston trying to dive his team, is probably why.
Exactly my thoughts on these people overhyping the so called "nerf". Do they think that every enemy a hog hooks would be above 200hp by the time of hook? No dumb wits, it's simple to reduce the health by 30-40 and then hook and one shot you. Blizzard didn't do shit to his breather or his HP and these people are going nuts...
@@dr.downvote All tanks have either mobility or some kind of a shield... What does Hog have again? Exactly. The breather. And you want it nerfed. Just learn to focus him instead of turning him into a throw pick.
most of the time (post nerf) hog only does about 105 damage to kiriko because of the small hitbox, he probably was expecting to live it as most hogs don't know how to use hook post nerf
@@obosranecc2938 Mercy should stick to DPS but it's still good practice to switch boost onto others under certain situations unless the DPS can just get more value / in a direct engagemeant. Ex: Hog on hook, Zen with a fully charged volley, Moria ult if folks are pretty grouped up, Zar if she has high charge sometimes, Orisa ult if it has high potential value, ect.
@@obosranecc2938 Also can be a good idea because if the DPS are very close to ult or have ult you can spend a little time on others to help build theirs faster unless again, the DPS is in a position that require your focus.
Seeing cyx fav ow streamer…sometimes not getting the one shot, devs screwing Hog and teammates interrupting the Hook…and Still winning, man the struggle is real…W cyx
Honestly, this hof feels nice. More rewarding, and you can dish out more damage per sec, and I can feel the difference on how fast you can shoot and reload. It's nice
For high ping players hog is kinda unplayable right now, like whats the difference between a hog that oneshot you and a hog that oneshot you with quirurgical precision, it still oneshots you, the difference now is skill, but this game is buggy af and sometimes ping doesnt allow you to play well
I can't tell you how refreshing it is to see a tank player with actual mechanical skill after the onslaught of boosted tanks complaining about the nerf when they don't even use slug half the time
He still plays pretty much the same, except more emphasis on pulling whoever you hook into your team than one shotting everything. Orisa is for sure gonna dominate for a while.
@@PapiDulce11 nah I say that from experience, I’ve played him quite a bit since the change. He doesn’t feel too bad you just have to be more patient and pick your targets/timing better.
@@benbobst5032 yeah it’s hard but just takes adjusting. He’s still very viable on maps with env kills. Always my go to on Ilios, Rialto, Eichenwalde etc. but yeah I see what you mean, I just hope they don’t nerf him anymore. I already miss old hog.😢
@@scarecrow_301 so many times now I get clutch hooks where I say literally yesterday I’d get the kill but now instead i just hooked someone near me who is now getting healed and shooting me now so it just makes it annoying to play
This just really taught me the difference between high and low elo play. In bronze, I'm deleting every monkey I even look at as hog. But I guess up there people know how to play him and not die
Patch just came out and I see Cyx has already adjusted. He's just consistently landing those right clicks before he even bothers to go for the hook. As expected.
Having a mercy pocketing hog let you to one shot every time, is even more powerful than a sojourn-mercy and I think this could be meta when people notice about that
No it won't be, every tank even hog requires a main healer in most games, mercy is not that which means you still have to have someone go main healer which means the dps get no support. Good mercys will be able to keep track of hogs cooldown and GA over for the dmg boost but that isn't most mercy players
@@MC-ns8gb It’s not hard to track teammate abilities, and it’s even easier for the hog to communicate that he’s about to go for a hook. Damage boost keeps causing problems, looks like it wasn’t just sojourn after all.
All these hog players complaining about the change but all it does is make him take a bit more skill. Something plenty of them are unfamiliar with. Be more like Cyx he's actually good at the character.
U have to shoot first then hook now even Cyx the best hog is missing one shots otherwise. They could’ve nerfed hog and kiriko without taking one shot away. One shot is the best part about playing hog such a gay change
it’s great that I completely gave up on playing Overwatch 2 cause I still get overwatch content so I get to look in from the outside on how the game is still continuing to spiral downward. I’m excited to see what hero people are gonna cry about next.
They coudl've kep the one shot but nerfed the hook range, cause the issue is that good positioning didn't exist against hog unless you're out of LOS and he can yoink you from a map away
Pretty sure a nerf to hog was a nerf to orisa, since orisa was only really meta to begin with since she was a hard counter to hog, currently scrimming winston comps so you have that to look forward to. Edit: Was the only tank that could stand up to hog*
@@TheWolfinite that is incorrect, Orisa is still very OP especially when given a single support pocket. Hopefully the slight nerf in the patch will change that... Hopefully.
@@benbobst5032 he’s still unkillable, has high damage, environmental kill potential . He’s still a great tank, just not brain dead one shot easy anymore. Thank god. Still above doom, ball, dva, and rein in terms of power.
we did this kind of nerf back in Overwatch 1 to Hog. It didn't end well, because he became underpowered. Cyx being incredible at Hog doesn't mean Hog is good. I can't really understand how they nerf all tanks except Orisa, since Overwatch 1. Doom, JQ, now Hog. Man, these players
@@LeonBlade his entire existence revolved around being a punching bag, and especially true in Overwatch 2 being single tank. his survivability kit can be easily negated with various abilities, that's why I think that hook-shot combo is his 'signature'. remember; it's a combo, not 1 hit kill like snipers. if you die countless times to Hog with that combo, either you have 0 awareness, you like to 1v1 him, or you just don't play with your team. you literally can sleep him, nade him, throw suzu on your hooked teammate, boop him with junkrat/pharah, or just full on focus shoot him; he won't get those kills.
I'd say the hog nerf was more deserved than the genji nerf, but i still cant make fun of hog players now because we also know what it feels like to have your character nuked in a way that makes it unfun to play it like how you used to Sadge
Wait I like these changes honestly, I thought hog was gonna be terrible now but they just force hog players to play as a team more, be more accurate and play a little smarter. It’s difficult to tell from this video whether hog is still too good or if it’s just cuz Cyx is insane tho.
@@aerostrafe1075 That's a one shot though. Yeah, people hate being displaced in the game by an ability with 20m range and die with no way of avoiding it. No surprise there.
@@LeonBlade Technically pulling you into 5 people with guns is not a one shot. You just got CCd but people will still complain. Range might be too long but if its too short then you can't really displace someone dead infront of you.
Roadhog nerf was unnecasery, his one shot-combo was the only thing keeping him viable. But its not like its unavoidable or uncounterable. Almost every Tank can counter Roadhogs hook, but these silver players get soooooo mad as soon as they get hooked and killed. People complain about Roadhogs one shot combo. But what about widowmaker? Or sigmas rock plus his primary? Widowmaker can 1 shot almost every character that isnt a Tank, but Roadhog could only one shot Squishys, Reaper and Torbjorn.
@@BeakerSteve I never said that my teammates are responsible for killing him, it's annoying because even if you kill him but your teammates don't, he becomes a very annoying pest for one being a tank. Watch the video again and see how many times the Soldier became a problem for Cyx with all the damage he dealt not leaving him alone for a second.
They took so much power out of hog's shots and hook which they should have then put into his ult. More opportunity for hog to secure kills without his one-shot being so oppressive. Bada-bing bada-boom.
Lol this comment section tells me a lot of you dont know how to play the game without an easy hero. Cyx can pick up any hero and destroy, but hog’s his favorite. Most of you were only decent at the game cuz hog was broken 😂
They can nerf Hog, but they can't nerf Cyx
Facts
It’s really crazy to see the insane skill top players at a hero have that even when nerfed or are bad still make them work, another example is like zbra, even if doom is bad he is still good with him, cyx just built dif
Cyx be like: nerf this 🥒
It’s really not that hard to walk forward for a couple extra milliseconds before getting your free one shot
I said this exact same comment yesterday lol
Love Wanted and karq they wasn’t even mad there reactions were golden though each time though lol
Why didint ypu take the stairs at all it was squishy territory up there instead you tried to kill a mercy with winston all game.
@@ipodnano962 Thanks to the nerf to Hog's oneshot, his kit is actually better against tanks than it is against squishes. So that, along with the Winston trying to dive his team, is probably why.
"wait he one shot me" well brother you were 165 hp before the hook.
Was thinking the same thing
Exactly my thoughts on these people overhyping the so called "nerf". Do they think that every enemy a hog hooks would be above 200hp by the time of hook? No dumb wits, it's simple to reduce the health by 30-40 and then hook and one shot you. Blizzard didn't do shit to his breather or his HP and these people are going nuts...
@@dr.downvote the one shot is the thing that everyone was crying about why would they nerf his survivability?
@@dr.downvote All tanks have either mobility or some kind of a shield... What does Hog have again? Exactly. The breather. And you want it nerfed. Just learn to focus him instead of turning him into a throw pick.
most of the time (post nerf) hog only does about 105 damage to kiriko because of the small hitbox, he probably was expecting to live it as most hogs don't know how to use hook post nerf
Welcome to the experience of Doom mains the past several years until recently. Hog will rise again.
I mean, hog already has once. They tried almost this same idea back in OW1. It didn't stick.
The shimada can rise again
And hog fucking deserves it
8:06 You liked it Cyx don't lie to us
Hog lucio should be a good combo, to help close the distance in the hook combo
I mean the speed is a pretty minor boost and if you want a support to help 1 shot just go mercy
@@bluespellmaster8592 if mercy wants spmeone to boost to it should be dps
@@obosranecc2938 Mercy should stick to DPS but it's still good practice to switch boost onto others under certain situations unless the DPS can just get more value / in a direct engagemeant. Ex: Hog on hook, Zen with a fully charged volley, Moria ult if folks are pretty grouped up, Zar if she has high charge sometimes, Orisa ult if it has high potential value, ect.
@@obosranecc2938 Also can be a good idea because if the DPS are very close to ult or have ult you can spend a little time on others to help build theirs faster unless again, the DPS is in a position that require your focus.
Yeah let’s get lucio to have his back turned towards the enemy team to shred him so hog can potentially get a kill
hearing BasicallyIdowrk in a Cyx video made me smile
Wym
@@sebastian-jb6hk the “get down mr president” is marcel
Same
I had to reply it the first time lol I was just like did I hear that right
glad i was't the only one to notice the marcel screaming get down mr president
I lost it at 6:02 when mercy started shooting hahahaha
the Mercy pistol meta is rising more and more and they are done with our shit lmfao
@@docb8712 you mean mercy pistol w that insane hitbox
@@backstabber3537 the same one
I love the purposfully clipped reaction of KarQ getting absolutely fucking mowed down at 3:27
Personal fave
The old school Vanoss Crew "get down Mr President" from Marcel, glad to see the editor has culture lol
Seeing cyx fav ow streamer…sometimes not getting the one shot, devs screwing Hog and teammates interrupting the Hook…and Still winning, man the struggle is real…W cyx
😂
“Struggle”
@@RoyceThaVoice ?
Hog and struggle in same sentence 🫤
Honestly, this hof feels nice. More rewarding, and you can dish out more damage per sec, and I can feel the difference on how fast you can shoot and reload. It's nice
is "hof" supposed to be "hotfix" or "hog" lol
@@theSato I meant "hog" typo
For high ping players hog is kinda unplayable right now, like whats the difference between a hog that oneshot you and a hog that oneshot you with quirurgical precision, it still oneshots you, the difference now is skill, but this game is buggy af and sometimes ping doesnt allow you to play well
Roadhog gp + wii Mario kart background music = great video no cap
I can't tell you how refreshing it is to see a tank player with actual mechanical skill after the onslaught of boosted tanks complaining about the nerf when they don't even use slug half the time
1:50
Why didn't you pull bob into the hole in the ground?
That get down clip ha didn’t expect to hear basically’s voice haha
Not gonna lie, that bigger ammo clip and higher fire rate makes hooking in tanks seem more rewarding. You didn’t one shot them pre patch anyway
Dude was 159 hp which is 75% of his whole hp and then said : i got one shot ? Twice
They keep calling two shots one shots 💀💀 as they look at the kill cam
The music suited this video so much because these games are just a circus 😂
0:22 I ALMOST SPAT BEER ALL OVER MY FUCKING MONITOR THAT WAS HILOURS.
So how long till Orisa gets nerfed to the ground? Bc im pretty sure she was a bigger threat than hog himself.
Cyx be still killing it with the roadhog despite the nerfs. Man's built different indeed.
He still plays pretty much the same, except more emphasis on pulling whoever you hook into your team than one shotting everything. Orisa is for sure gonna dominate for a while.
it only looks that way because cyx is playing him rn, almost anyone else will struggle and basically throw.
@@PapiDulce11 nah I say that from experience, I’ve played him quite a bit since the change. He doesn’t feel too bad you just have to be more patient and pick your targets/timing better.
@@scarecrow_301 idk bro In my diamond and master games against dps who can play n move it sucks ass
@@benbobst5032 yeah it’s hard but just takes adjusting. He’s still very viable on maps with env kills. Always my go to on Ilios, Rialto, Eichenwalde etc. but yeah I see what you mean, I just hope they don’t nerf him anymore. I already miss old hog.😢
@@scarecrow_301 so many times now I get clutch hooks where I say literally yesterday I’d get the kill but now instead i just hooked someone near me who is now getting healed and shooting me now so it just makes it annoying to play
Travis scott fall soundbite was epic
This just really taught me the difference between high and low elo play. In bronze, I'm deleting every monkey I even look at as hog. But I guess up there people know how to play him and not die
Patch just came out and I see Cyx has already adjusted. He's just consistently landing those right clicks before he even bothers to go for the hook. As expected.
And even then, he was far less oppressive than normal... I think that this nerf works for now
Mercy should be the only character that can be one shot by hog.
2:05 Crispy Christ on a stick! That’s why he’s rank 1.
It’s so satisfying to land a one shot now
Having a mercy pocketing hog let you to one shot every time, is even more powerful than a sojourn-mercy and I think this could be meta when people notice about that
No it won't be, every tank even hog requires a main healer in most games, mercy is not that which means you still have to have someone go main healer which means the dps get no support. Good mercys will be able to keep track of hogs cooldown and GA over for the dmg boost but that isn't most mercy players
@@MC-ns8gb It’s not hard to track teammate abilities, and it’s even easier for the hog to communicate that he’s about to go for a hook. Damage boost keeps causing problems, looks like it wasn’t just sojourn after all.
Get down mister president is from basicallyidowork and I watch him and it’s amazing to see you use that sound 😭
was looking for this comment haha
All these hog players complaining about the change but all it does is make him take a bit more skill. Something plenty of them are unfamiliar with. Be more like Cyx he's actually good at the character.
U have to shoot first then hook now even Cyx the best hog is missing one shots otherwise. They could’ve nerfed hog and kiriko without taking one shot away. One shot is the best part about playing hog such a gay change
Or people can just learn how to counter hog and not have him nerfed
@@Treble_V2 you mean learning to not being visible to hog.
You realize thats not how his most games look like? Hog is bad now
This man speaking facts. The tears of hog mains are delicious
it’s great that I completely gave up on playing Overwatch 2 cause I still get overwatch content so I get to look in from the outside on how the game is still continuing to spiral downward. I’m excited to see what hero people are gonna cry about next.
the edits are going up its definitely worth it
that Liar guy sounds like MaxamilianMus
This is exactly the video I was hoping for
Cyx learns how hitboxes works
Now u gotta run around as hog with a mercy I really hate the direction this games taking
They coudl've kep the one shot but nerfed the hook range, cause the issue is that good positioning didn't exist against hog unless you're out of LOS and he can yoink you from a map away
this is what I have been saying, everyone is so focused on the 1 shot when in reality they should have nerfed the hook range from 20 m to like 17-15 m
@@Checkyyyy yep totally agree, hog should be punishing bad positioning but as of now he can still punish people in good positions with no risk
We don't need one shots in the game, it's just stupid.
@@LeonBlade it absolutely is stupid but I don’t think that was his biggest issue, part of it sure but the core issue remains
Any recs on how to play hog now?
Didn't expect to hear basicallyidowrk
I indeed called you a BIG BOI!!!
they should have nerfed orisa instead of hog
They should’ve gutted that fucking horse
yeah maybe nerf his spear cooldown a bit.
Pretty sure a nerf to hog was a nerf to orisa, since orisa was only really meta to begin with since she was a hard counter to hog, currently scrimming winston comps so you have that to look forward to.
Edit: Was the only tank that could stand up to hog*
@@TheWolfinite that is incorrect, Orisa is still very OP especially when given a single support pocket. Hopefully the slight nerf in the patch will change that... Hopefully.
They did nerf Orisa, she has less fortify health now. She's just still tanky lol
Maybe the sign is big enough but roadhog is huge. It's like a fat guy hiding behind a light pole in broad daylight. We can see you still.
Basicallyidowrk Mr president never gets old lol
I mean they were both at 150hp when you hooked them so it’s not really a one shot
They all call it a one shot but now you have to skill shot to get it and they still cry about it 🤣😂🤣
Now it’s time for JQ no more hog finally.
The basicallyIdoWrk get down mister president bro 😂
The old dev, that bald bastard was the best he didn't f up the game that much
Hog is actually fair but still strong now.
No he’s not
Yeah if enemy doesn't have orisa
@@benbobst5032 he’s still unkillable, has high damage, environmental kill potential . He’s still a great tank, just not brain dead one shot easy anymore. Thank god. Still above doom, ball, dva, and rein in terms of power.
@@AntLeonardi01 unkillable untill they have ana and zen
@@AntLeonardi01 didn't age well did it
Editor is @BasicallyIDoWrk fan I see
Respect
what is the song at the beginning
we did this kind of nerf back in Overwatch 1 to Hog. It didn't end well, because he became underpowered. Cyx being incredible at Hog doesn't mean Hog is good. I can't really understand how they nerf all tanks except Orisa, since Overwatch 1. Doom, JQ, now Hog. Man, these players
Hog doesn't need to farm kills on squishies and make everyone's life miserable to be a viable pick. That's now how you balance a game.
@@LeonBlade his entire existence revolved around being a punching bag, and especially true in Overwatch 2 being single tank. his survivability kit can be easily negated with various abilities, that's why I think that hook-shot combo is his 'signature'. remember; it's a combo, not 1 hit kill like snipers. if you die countless times to Hog with that combo, either you have 0 awareness, you like to 1v1 him, or you just don't play with your team. you literally can sleep him, nade him, throw suzu on your hooked teammate, boop him with junkrat/pharah, or just full on focus shoot him; he won't get those kills.
Pay attention, the hook usually lands at 160🤔
I'd say the hog nerf was more deserved than the genji nerf, but i still cant make fun of hog players now because we also know what it feels like to have your character nuked in a way that makes it unfun to play it like how you used to Sadge
Nice hook Big Boi
I learned that nerfed hog is good but i like to drag the enemy 180 with me in front of team
The naruto music was so nostalgic
As someone who mains Mercy and loves Hog, I'll do my best to enable my big pig guy with boost
Wait I like these changes honestly, I thought hog was gonna be terrible now but they just force hog players to play as a team more, be more accurate and play a little smarter. It’s difficult to tell from this video whether hog is still too good or if it’s just cuz Cyx is insane tho.
I don't think it'll stop the complaints. People say they hate the 1 shot but really they just hate being pulled to their death in general.
@@aerostrafe1075 That's a one shot though. Yeah, people hate being displaced in the game by an ability with 20m range and die with no way of avoiding it. No surprise there.
@@LeonBlade Technically pulling you into 5 people with guns is not a one shot. You just got CCd but people will still complain. Range might be too long but if its too short then you can't really displace someone dead infront of you.
apparently no one plays hog even cyx doesnt play hog often anymore
hogs not even wide its orisas spear hitbox its huge
question does anyone know hat the cube that lights up in the back is called?
Pretty sure it was asked by pretty much everyone when they saw the cube in first time but after 2000 years no one still figured out
@@mishima433 it will remain a mystery until the end of time
It’s called the hypercube, he also said where to buy it in his stream
@Frank oh my god it's the time lord
@@ThatPurp thank you :)
Roadhog nerf was unnecasery, his one shot-combo was the only thing keeping him viable. But its not like its unavoidable or uncounterable. Almost every Tank can counter Roadhogs hook, but these silver players get soooooo mad as soon as they get hooked and killed. People complain about Roadhogs one shot combo. But what about widowmaker? Or sigmas rock plus his primary? Widowmaker can 1 shot almost every character that isnt a Tank, but Roadhog could only one shot Squishys, Reaper and Torbjorn.
*Complaining about not one shotting vs other streamers * 😂
Lmao some of these “reactions” are just the streamer existing
Just watching that soldier get high ground every game and lasering everyone looked annoying
Man maybe they should focus on making whole hog not pure dogshit
Quick tip; if you jump into the hook you can one shot any dps/healer
Ummm i don't think so. Please show a vod or explain.
That's not really true, even if you jump they still have mobility in the air. It's not a stun like you think it is.
Ion get it
They can nerf the Hog but they can never Hog the nerf. 😔🙌
I'm fine with this hog as long as they nerf other annoying crap in the game. Bring Ana nade back in line, nerf Orisa more, Nerf Mercy
Nerfed but ended buf lol
Liar is such a nice player fr
When they nerfed hog's one shot, they forgot he can melee
I cant do the thing they removed.
Cyx you gotta stop owning with Hog, or next patch those crybabies are gonna swap the hook for a whip.
Roadhog is now the most useless character in the entire roster. So much for maining him since day 1
Basicallyidowrk reference
im so god damn sick and tired of always seeing orisa lol
god hog feels like shit now why can't they just nerf the hook range or buff other heroes instead of deleting one hero after another from the meta.
I wish they had nerfed doomfist like they nerfed hog🥲
soldier players are fucking annoying when you are a tank and your teammates cant kill him
Well start by not assuming that teammates are responsible for killing him. Watch this video again and see how many times Cyx kills the Soldier.
@@BeakerSteve I never said that my teammates are responsible for killing him, it's annoying because even if you kill him but your teammates don't, he becomes a very annoying pest for one being a tank. Watch the video again and see how many times the Soldier became a problem for Cyx with all the damage he dealt not leaving him alone for a second.
Hog isn't wide hes just "THICC" 🍑🍑
Ngl I think that hog is like doom in first season, absolutely garbage,like playing ramattra or orisa or even sigma is wayyyyyy better rn
Everyone surprised they’re being 1 shot still is gonna get hog nerfed again why do they hate him so much just don’t get hooked
you fr?
nice
first hog players want rights now they want a lower hit box??
They took so much power out of hog's shots and hook which they should have then put into his ult. More opportunity for hog to secure kills without his one-shot being so oppressive. Bada-bing bada-boom.
im so glad they nerfed you its deserved for playing that character
hogs still broken tbh
Hey I’m in the video!
Come to middle east vers , u will see alot of that soldier xD , it’s pain in the a****
Lol this comment section tells me a lot of you dont know how to play the game without an easy hero. Cyx can pick up any hero and destroy, but hog’s his favorite. Most of you were only decent at the game cuz hog was broken 😂
gg
Very wide
I'm so happy he's nerfed i got out of many hogs hook oneshot i hope they nerf him more in his rework.
I hope your internet speed gets nerfed
@@chalopsten1408 stay mad hog is nerfed rarely oneshots now.
@@SummonerSnuggs yeah well stay bad buddy because hog being nerfed ain't going to make you better
@@chalopsten1408 deleted your comment that a Automatic L and I'm blocking you🤣
@@SummonerSnuggs wow I'm so offended that a room temperature iq kid blocked me
Bro why your editor play the same clip multiple times in the same video thats some lazy shit
Big Boooy ❤
hero to zero rip roadhog 💀☠️