The Immortality of MOZILLA/5.0

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
  • Your internet browser sends a very strange message to every website you'll ever visit, and the history of this message is a remarkable tale of innovation, impatience, and really really long strings of text.
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  • @GanerRL
    @GanerRL 11 місяців тому +97

    it's crazy how many times I've interacted with user agent strings but never noticed this, my brain just learned to blot it out; thanks for the informative video!

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair 9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, my brain just somehow separates Mozilla and Mozilla Foundation without ever connecting it.

  • @dingledonk8027
    @dingledonk8027 11 місяців тому +29

    the production quality on this channel is very good. deserves WAY more viewers

    • @user-ku4wy2nz1f
      @user-ku4wy2nz1f 9 місяців тому

      fr like this video need 80k+ views with the consistent quality with this video being far lower quality then the rest and the consistent uploads and amount of uploads this i feel as tho this channel is shadowbanned prob cuz it is call captain krb, so it looked pro soviet russia and educated about negative things the cia has done in it's videos

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 10 місяців тому +3

    I love how some stuff like this is a true relic in that it doesn't serve a purpose anymore other than 'that's how we've done it for years'.

  • @NimhLabs
    @NimhLabs 3 місяці тому +2

    "What originally started as a quick fix, became the standard as the web was built around it"
    Yeah... that is pretty much the entire Internet right there in a nutshell

  • @ironic.
    @ironic. 11 місяців тому +8

    Mozaic Killa was something I actually had no idea about. Great stuff

  • @xenonquark996official
    @xenonquark996official 11 місяців тому +65

    Mozilla/5.0 is like the appendix of web browsers lmao

    • @Periwinkleaccount
      @Periwinkleaccount 11 місяців тому +2

      What’s so funny?

    • @thezipcreator
      @thezipcreator 10 місяців тому +9

      @@Periwinkleaccount "lmao" or "lol" is typically appended to a phrase to say "don't take this too seriously"

    • @Periwinkleaccount
      @Periwinkleaccount 10 місяців тому +2

      @@thezipcreator I know, I’m just indirectly telling this person that they used it incorrectly.

    • @thezipcreator
      @thezipcreator 10 місяців тому +8

      @@Periwinkleaccount I don't see this as an incorrect usage, they're making a joke (which isn't super serious) and putting "lmao" after it to indicate that. it isn't the _strict_ definition of that abbreviation, but it is generally understood, so I don't see the problem.

    • @Periwinkleaccount
      @Periwinkleaccount 10 місяців тому +2

      @@thezipcreator Well, it does seem like, if then, it would be “(joke) now laugh, please”.

  • @Random-py7ny
    @Random-py7ny 11 місяців тому +19

    your videos are mad underrated bro this is some of the most top tier editing ive seen in a while and it somehow struggles to get 100k views when it deserves so much more. fr bro keep up the good work you deserve to be so much more popular

  • @TheMMMification
    @TheMMMification 11 місяців тому +7

    God I love seeing the jank solutions programmers can come up with.

  • @xcoder1122
    @xcoder1122 11 місяців тому +19

    Rarely any web page today uses those browser strings anymore. If you don't send any at all, you typically get the same page as if you send all of them. That's because since HMTL 4, all browsers pretty much support the same standards and if you need something that is not part of the standards, there are better ways to detect support for it or automatically fallback to alternatives if not supported, without having to check the browser string (e.g. you can embed media in different formats and the browser will pick the format it supports or the one it likes best; also non standard CSS additions are prefixed and automatically ignored if not supported by a browser).

    • @Toothily
      @Toothily 10 місяців тому +10

      That's basically the case now (with HTML5), but it was more iffy back then. I used to be a webdev, and IE 4/5/6 were notorious for breaking particular bits of the standards. Usually you'd work around that with CSS & JS hacks though, instead of user agent sniffing.

    • @sharrpshooter1
      @sharrpshooter1 10 місяців тому +5

      Well there is still a point to sending it, some sites if they dont see it, assume your a webscrapper and don't allow access, so usually when webscrapping you have to send this info to pretend to be a real person.

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 3 місяці тому

      Eh... some websites, if they don't send it, assume you are using a Microbrowser. Remember Microbrowsers? Those things flip phones made use with?
      On top of assuming you might be a webscrapper
      You can have fun debugging stuff that interacts with webservers

    • @xcoder1122
      @xcoder1122 3 місяці тому

      @@NimhLabsI have a plugin in my browser that allows me to set this string arbitrarily and I cannot figure out any difference with popular websites when I manipulate that string. It's only used to distinguish between a mobil phone and a desktop PC noways and even that is stupid idea, as webmaster make assumptions about "what a mobil phone can do" which are often not true anymore for years. Instead of relying on such a string, you should rely on capabilities. E.g. if your visitor can display a certain resolution, why would you shrink the site like crazy just because he uses a mobil phone, so most screen space either goes unused on his phone (the screen is small and you making it even smaller?) or even worse, the page becomes too small to even be readable without constant zooming.

  • @BobcatBlueMusic
    @BobcatBlueMusic 10 місяців тому +7

    Ahh! This was fun to watch. I just learned some basic web scraping in this programming class I'm taking and they provided a header string for us to use so the program can access the website. I thought it was quirky that the word Mozilla was in there since most people would (I assume) use Chrome or IE/edge. I love that there is an interesting story behind this

  • @atharvakeskar3885
    @atharvakeskar3885 11 місяців тому +9

    Hey. New subscriber here. I really enjoy your videos on interesting, lesser known topics. Great work!

  • @Scarybug
    @Scarybug 10 місяців тому +4

    Dang this was interesting. It feels so strange having nostalgia for Netscape Navigator because it was so futuristic at the time, and the web is so different today.

  • @aaaaaaaaaana
    @aaaaaaaaaana 9 місяців тому

    this is one of the best channels on youtube right now, amazing work

  • @Popotato7777
    @Popotato7777 10 місяців тому +1

    I still cant get over of how they just let that happen just for "laziness".

  • @aiden_3c
    @aiden_3c 9 місяців тому +1

    Such a good video, I love how random things we take for granted in technology have such deep historical roots (Like C: being the default drive coming from the old CP/M OS which DOS was a clone of bc floppy drives n stuff)
    A story on the history of how Netscape Navigator turned into Mozilla Firefox would be really cool from you btw!

  • @ordep2806
    @ordep2806 11 місяців тому +2

    dude, it is impressive how much info you can put in a short video like this. Your work is fucking great, dude. Keep it up

  • @oopsiesh
    @oopsiesh 11 місяців тому +4

    you never disappoint. I love these miscellaneous internet functions/stories. The day utube algorithm picks you up cant come any sooner. its a shame. you deserve it 10 fold.

  • @Brick_Eater_
    @Brick_Eater_ 9 місяців тому

    3:08 i heard the pacer test sound effect and it triggered my fight or flight response

  • @Mordecrox
    @Mordecrox 10 місяців тому +2

    TIL Mozilla stands for Mozaic killa

  • @isabellefaguy7351
    @isabellefaguy7351 3 місяці тому

    now I know how old I am... lived that whole story as a web pages creator.

  • @zardoz_the_great
    @zardoz_the_great 10 місяців тому

    Your style, choice of topics, and presentation are all fantastic, you deserve more views.

  • @aquaintsound
    @aquaintsound 8 місяців тому

    Appreciate the info and especially appreciate sources

  • @naughtiusmaximus789
    @naughtiusmaximus789 Місяць тому

    Never knew that 'Mozilla' is short for 'Mosaic Face Killa' 🦊

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 10 місяців тому

    This is incredibly interesting history that I am going to remember as a pocket fact to bore and slightly annoy anyone I need to make small talk with who don't even know what a "user agent" is

  • @LethalBubbles
    @LethalBubbles 10 місяців тому

    its moRe a story of giving em the triple e's embrace enhance extinguish

  • @coolestkid87
    @coolestkid87 11 місяців тому +1

    so what youre telling me is that every browser lies about their identity to get perks
    nice

  • @nicholasrosella2952
    @nicholasrosella2952 11 місяців тому

    Awesome video as usual

  • @andrewlenz6446
    @andrewlenz6446 10 місяців тому

    your content is genuinely unbelievable man. scoping every single post and i kinda am struggling to believe some of these don’t even have A THOUSAND likes. keep it up dude. super super proud of your work and your effort in these posts is absolutely incredible.

    • @addiesmith3987
      @addiesmith3987 8 місяців тому

      I just found this channel and was about to comment the same thing fr fr

  • @calTM_
    @calTM_ 10 місяців тому

    Amazing and informative

  • @tapestapes0
    @tapestapes0 10 місяців тому

    That was fun! Thanks

  • @NexusGamingRadical
    @NexusGamingRadical 11 місяців тому +3

    Yo, I'm agent MOZILLA/5.0. Hows it hanging?

  • @w4str
    @w4str 11 місяців тому

    ur one of my fav tubers ever

  • @alexandruiacobescu160
    @alexandruiacobescu160 11 місяців тому

    mosaic killa

  • @onemoreguyonline7878
    @onemoreguyonline7878 10 місяців тому

    Neat!

  • @tverdyznaqs
    @tverdyznaqs 11 місяців тому

    That's so neat!!

  • @Wilker_uwu
    @Wilker_uwu 10 місяців тому

    next up: mimicking Google Chrome because of Web Environment Integrity (aka the web DRM)

  • @morpheus_uat
    @morpheus_uat 9 місяців тому

    i need to interact with this api that stil uses http request for its request, im gonna quickly copy this 250 lenght header that starts with mozilla and dont have a single idea what it does, but it sure give me an answer from the api, so its ok

  • @thecrazyinsanity
    @thecrazyinsanity 11 місяців тому

    wow this really has only 1k views?