Oh God ur a T bus operator. Quit that disgusting company and come work for MaBSTOA down in NYC. Coming from a Bostonian the MBTA is one of the world's worst transit companies, 100% late, extremely infrequent, not 24 hours and just unusable. No wonder it's always empty
as someone who is not a bus driver or has any plan to be a bus driver, it always annoys me when people are stood about 10 feet from the bus stop and you cant tell if they getting the bus
My hubsand and I still enjoy your videos even though he left his job as a bus operator because he had to think about his mental health but he still support his coworkers. God bless you Mr. Keywan.
@@BusDriverLifeI work for Omnitrans in California on the West Valley Division and I'm going to quit mental health is very important how was the truck driver for 28 years and became a bus driver thinking that it would be easy hell no😂
I'm a Pace bus operator and some of my bus routes when it dark outside without no street lights in the suburbs, I can't see you so if you have a flashlight or bright light, hold it in the air but don't point it at me because that stuff would hurt my eyes. Just like I don't care about busfans who want to take pictures and record buses, don't used that flashlight towards me neither. I know a busfan who gets on my bus, he loves public transportation and he wants to be a bus operator someday.
5:00 I have two pointers for this. 1. What I've seen when riding a bus, is that the operator will open the door and yell out to the people not paying attention - "Route 4!" for example which really helps. I definitely encourage more operators to do this. 2. When I'm at a stop with multiple routes and a route shows up that I'm not taking, I will politely wave the bus on if it's just me. If there are other people there, I won't do that and risk them missing the bus.
to your point #1, as many stops as i have full of homeless people.. they take it as an offer of a FREE ride and if i do that, they will want a free ride just to go nowhere
if we don’t see you, guess what, we aren’t stopping. so, be visible - any source of light helps a lot. and lastly, have your fare ready…before you board. side note: if you’re not taking the bus, please wave us on. pretty please. 🙃
As a passenger, I can say that part about waving the bus off is especially necessary at stops served by multiple routes. If it’s not the route you intended to catch, wave ‘em off.
As a bus operator in Canada, I see a lot of common mistakes passengers make at bus stops. Beyond the points you covered in your video, one major issue is passengers hiding behind the bus shelter and only stepping out as the bus is passing by-often leaving no time to stop safely. When I see someone at a stop, I slow down, but if they don’t signal that they want the bus, I assume they’re not boarding and continue driving. Passengers need to stay aware of their surroundings, keep track of the bus schedule, and be ready at the stop as the bus approaches. Put your phones away and pay attention when your bus is due.
Last week I had a passenger I almost missed because he was dressed head to toe in camouflage standing in front of a pile of tree trimmings. He completely blended in until I was right next to the stop and he started to wave me down
I recently found a bus stop sign on the ground from NSW Transport here in Australia boldly titled “signal bus driver” and under it there’s an icon of an approaching bus with a figure of a person waving it down captioned underneath “as you see the bus approaching, raise your hand to signal the bus driver to stop.” Does this really need to be spelled out? YES APPARENTLY😒.
I like to tell riders, we're like wild animals. We see movement .. just a little bit of movement is all you need. If you're sitting, stand up. If you're standing, take a step forward. It doesn't take much, but if you don't move, it is so easy for you to blend in to the background. Day or night. Help us, to help you.
I ride the bus at night quite a bit and yes at dark bus stops when I see the bus approaching I simply shine my flashlight on the street in front of me never at the bus Several operators have thanked me for the way i signal them And yes we have had to make a few power stops because of the "shadow passengers
I'm mainly the night shift guy. Im driving down the street where theres low visibility. Some of these people be standing behind a car. Im doing my best to scan the bus stop and i still cant see so i say "bus stop is clear" all of a sudden all i hear is YO!!! Or some people be wearing dark clothes so now its harder to see them til you come up close "person appears" holy crap!! Bus shelters are perfect for just chilling and vibing. Sometimes people don't want the bus. Sometimes, you pull to it serving it and theyll look at you then look away or just stare at you. Some will shew you away with their hands like theyre swatting flies in the air. Then theres those like you explained facing the opposite directions or in their phones then its YO!! YO!! YO!! YO!! Yes, same thing happens to me also. 7:30 you felt the need to crack tha joke. Thanks now i couldnt stop laughing. We have one line where you're on the highway and there will be the same people usuing their phones as flashlights so yes it helps. But like BusDriverLIfe mentioned, please don't shine bright lights into our faces. You guys want to get home?
Exactly on point especially this time of year where it's getting dark around 4:30pm. almost passed a customer on the inbound 93 on Hillsdale/Brett. It's pitch dark our, she's wearing all dark clothing AND standing behind a parked SUV that's parked in front of the bus stop. I missed i was able to stop 50 feet beyond the bus stop and told her I couldn't see her. She said she was waving her hand and I told her unless your hand lights up at night, I'm not going to see you. She didn't say a word after that.
Honestly day or night I find using the fare card to hale y’all down works the best. Y’all can see the card so y’all see me so I can get on the bus and be on my merry way lol…but everyone is different so🤷🏾♂️
I'm a bus operator in Chicago and I have to learn that disability doesn't always be screen from a person so I have to take that into consideration because my younger daughter have autism. I would be honest with y'all them phone apps ventra get on my nerves. I miss the tokens and bus cards from the 90s growing up. I get that hey bus driver, can I get a ride all the time, I just tell them to go because I don't have time for this.
I’m an operator too I didn’t see anyone till the last minute and they were sitting at the bus stop at night kept driving as I passed he got up waving his arms I also get people during the day as I pull up sit there don’t say anything or and I point do you want this bus finally they nod and shake their heads noooo
A lot of these problems don’t exist in mainland China because buses in mainland Chinese cities will stop and open the doors at every bus stop along the route, even when there’s nobody waiting for the bus at the bus stop (because someone onboard maybe getting off the bus there). In Hong Kong, Macau and many areas in the rest of the World, the norm is to hail the bus at the bus stop and press the stop bell if you want to alight at a certain midway bus stop.
The norm in many cities is to hail the bus 🚌🚍 when you see the bus arriving at the bus stop (if no one hails the bus, that would indicate nobody wants that bus), and the bus simply continues on if nobody onboard presses the stop bell.
If I'm at downtown Chicago or any other cities and I want to catch a certain bus route, i would wave it like a taxi cab or look forward instead of being on my phone and if i don't want the bus i would used my hand gesture to tell them no or turn my back or move back to let them know that I don't want their bus route so they could keep on moving. I hope those tips would help out the passengers.
I sometimes try to explain some of these things to people when I nearly pass them or when I can barely see them yet pull in. Much of the time they look at me like I'm the moron or there's a language barrier when I try to explain to them. And in regards to your phone comment, I see that a lot with Generation Z...Gen Zombie.
I ride the bus in Los Angeles a lot. One time there was 2 cute college girls asking the driver directions. He gave them wrong info. I told them the right info. They told me “u don’t know, he’s the driver.” I said the driver don’t ride the bus he drives it. I tried to help them
Here’s a funny story I was cycling across India I was north in the country of Nepal. I was at a city called Hetuda. I tried to catch a bus 40mi back to the border of India. I was waiting at a bus stop and a driver pulled up and stop I said do u go to the border ? He said yes and sped off, I was just standing there. In Nepal people ride on top of the bus, I’m serious. The guys on top were laughing at me. lol
In Dresden busses and trams have to stop at a bus stop when there's anybody near it, even if the person is just walking. There are also stops where the bus or tram has to stop, even if there's no one there, mostly when the fare zone is changing. It also used to be that a tram (idk if busses too) can pass a station only at 20km/h. Now it's 40 km/h (13 and 25 mph for you Americans 😉) Also most passengers signal to the operator if they don't want to get on.
Come again when you see a dark-clad person in the dark in Sweden. A flashlight is the best way to be seen. But otherwise I agree with everything you say. I recognize myself as a bus driver.
I think here in Arkansas they’re low key embarrassed to ride the bus. It’s like they’re standing near the bus stop but “playing it off” that they’re just chilling. Betta chill yoself on this bus before you miss ya ride. 😂😂😂
Even in a big city having to stand on the side of the road for a bus or in the middle of an expressway for a train, while cars fly by and ppl staring dirty looks can be embarrassing.
Im in a big city in Arizona we have a large population of people that use the bus stops as apartments. On streets at night its rare to find one that doesnt have people sitting (or sleeping) in stops with no need for a bus. I roll by the shelter or sign and make them walk at least 5 feet towards door so i know. I have already put the stop in my rear view mirror many times and people stand up and move out of sitting position... too late
I like your videos, but you should focus more on the wheelchair lift and how to secure wheelchair users AND have a co-host with a Sacramento Paratransit driver as well.
If you want the bus to stop then you need to WAVE A HAND AT THE BUS TO GET THE DRIVER'S ATTENTION!!! Also for everyone else on the bus PLEASE HAVE YOUR BUS FARE READY BEFORE YOU BOARD!!!!!
The system I work in Western Washington. The biggest issue is everybody. Dresses in black clothes and stands like a statue. As we are approaching in the dark, you try and explain to them that you cannot see them. And they look at you like you're on drugs. The other public service announcement, I would say yes, at least within our system, if you were standing right out at the edge of the curb and you're over 5 foot 7 tall, you are probably going to have a headache if the bus driver pulls into the stop normally.#watchthemirror
Is there a preferred way to tell approaching bus driver that you don’t want that particular route so they don’t have to stop just to find out you’re waiting for a different route? I have brain injury so shaking head “no” is not option and I only have one arm that works properly. Typically I stand when I first see the bus coming then when I realize it’s not my route I will sit down. If there is no bench I will back up from the sign away from the road. Would there be a better way using one arm to tell the driver that you DON’T want that bus?
You’re talking about an exception to the rule. In GENERAL you should face towards traffic…BUT of course there will be times when you can’t do so…like on an extremely windy day.
I take public transit frequently on a moderate size system, definitely make yourself known to the operator that you want the bus, I hold out my discount fare card to signal to the driver, if a stop serves multiple routes I'll wave the bus by if it isn't the one I need, my local transit system uses the app onebusaway. I can use the app to get the scheduled arrival time for the route I need, be at the stop early, and keep an eye out for the bus you shouldn't miss it.
My favorite is when I pull into a stop and the person at the stop just looks at me like I'm crazy😂
Bruh!!!!! Yes, and then you and the person have a quick staring contest 😂😂😂😂
@@brendenmoir7423 like we are not supposed to stop at bus stops or something..it’s wild!
@@Quadirmiller facts!!!😂😂😂
@@BusDriverLife I'm like my bad for stopping at the bus stop😂🤣
I'm a bus operator in Boston. People, please don't sit at the bus stop, if you're not intending to use the bus.
@@chadsinnott9137 please 🙏
SL5 and 4. Check them out
A good idea is to take a picture of the T logo and hold it up when the bus arrived.
Oh God ur a T bus operator. Quit that disgusting company and come work for MaBSTOA down in NYC. Coming from a Bostonian the MBTA is one of the world's worst transit companies, 100% late, extremely infrequent, not 24 hours and just unusable. No wonder it's always empty
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If you want to ride my bus, you gotta act like you want to ride it.
as someone who is not a bus driver or has any plan to be a bus driver, it always annoys me when people are stood about 10 feet from the bus stop and you cant tell if they getting the bus
My hubsand and I still enjoy your videos even though he left his job as a bus operator because he had to think about his mental health but he still support his coworkers. God bless you Mr. Keywan.
Mental health is so important!! I appreciate the support and I hope he’s doing well!!
@@BusDriverLife I worked at a bus operation with like 1700 drivers. The turnover was pretty insane. Stress was certainly a factor.
@@BusDriverLifeI work for Omnitrans in California on the West Valley Division and I'm going to quit mental health is very important how was the truck driver for 28 years and became a bus driver thinking that it would be easy hell no😂
Rider education is something that's needed at every Transit District. We have a lot of Driver education.
I'm a Pace bus operator and some of my bus routes when it dark outside without no street lights in the suburbs, I can't see you so if you have a flashlight or bright light, hold it in the air but don't point it at me because that stuff would hurt my eyes. Just like I don't care about busfans who want to take pictures and record buses, don't used that flashlight towards me neither. I know a busfan who gets on my bus, he loves public transportation and he wants to be a bus operator someday.
5:00 I have two pointers for this.
1. What I've seen when riding a bus, is that the operator will open the door and yell out to the people not paying attention - "Route 4!" for example which really helps. I definitely encourage more operators to do this.
2. When I'm at a stop with multiple routes and a route shows up that I'm not taking, I will politely wave the bus on if it's just me. If there are other people there, I won't do that and risk them missing the bus.
to your point #1, as many stops as i have full of homeless people.. they take it as an offer of a FREE ride and if i do that, they will want a free ride just to go nowhere
if we don’t see you, guess what, we aren’t stopping. so, be visible - any source of light helps a lot. and lastly, have your fare ready…before you board.
side note: if you’re not taking the bus, please wave us on. pretty please. 🙃
As a passenger, I can say that part about waving the bus off is especially necessary at stops served by multiple routes. If it’s not the route you intended to catch, wave ‘em off.
As a bus operator in Canada, I see a lot of common mistakes passengers make at bus stops. Beyond the points you covered in your video, one major issue is passengers hiding behind the bus shelter and only stepping out as the bus is passing by-often leaving no time to stop safely. When I see someone at a stop, I slow down, but if they don’t signal that they want the bus, I assume they’re not boarding and continue driving. Passengers need to stay aware of their surroundings, keep track of the bus schedule, and be ready at the stop as the bus approaches. Put your phones away and pay attention when your bus is due.
Last week I had a passenger I almost missed because he was dressed head to toe in camouflage standing in front of a pile of tree trimmings. He completely blended in until I was right next to the stop and he started to wave me down
@@natefrom828 I believe you see stuff like that all the time at my location lol 😆
I'm dressed to be invisible, why didn't you see me?!?!
I recently found a bus stop sign on the ground from NSW Transport here in Australia boldly titled “signal bus driver” and under it there’s an icon of an approaching bus with a figure of a person waving it down captioned underneath “as you see the bus approaching, raise your hand to signal the bus driver to stop.”
Does this really need to be spelled out? YES APPARENTLY😒.
I like to tell riders, we're like wild animals. We see movement .. just a little bit of movement is all you need. If you're sitting, stand up. If you're standing, take a step forward. It doesn't take much, but if you don't move, it is so easy for you to blend in to the background. Day or night. Help us, to help you.
I ride the bus at night quite a bit and yes at dark bus stops when I see the bus approaching I simply shine my flashlight on the street in front of me never at the bus
Several operators have thanked me for the way i signal them
And yes we have had to make a few power stops because of the "shadow passengers
I'm mainly the night shift guy. Im driving down the street where theres low visibility. Some of these people be standing behind a car. Im doing my best to scan the bus stop and i still cant see so i say "bus stop is clear" all of a sudden all i hear is YO!!! Or some people be wearing dark clothes so now its harder to see them til you come up close "person appears" holy crap!!
Bus shelters are perfect for just chilling and vibing. Sometimes people don't want the bus. Sometimes, you pull to it serving it and theyll look at you then look away or just stare at you. Some will shew you away with their hands like theyre swatting flies in the air. Then theres those like you explained facing the opposite directions or in their phones then its YO!! YO!! YO!! YO!! Yes, same thing happens to me also.
7:30 you felt the need to crack tha joke. Thanks now i couldnt stop laughing. We have one line where you're on the highway and there will be the same people usuing their phones as flashlights so yes it helps. But like BusDriverLIfe mentioned, please don't shine bright lights into our faces. You guys want to get home?
Exactly on point especially this time of year where it's getting dark around 4:30pm.
almost passed a customer on the inbound 93 on Hillsdale/Brett.
It's pitch dark our, she's wearing all dark clothing AND standing behind a parked SUV that's parked in front of the bus stop.
I missed i was able to stop 50 feet beyond the bus stop and told her I couldn't see her.
She said she was waving her hand and I told her unless your hand lights up at night, I'm not going to see you.
She didn't say a word after that.
Honestly day or night I find using the fare card to hale y’all down works the best. Y’all can see the card so y’all see me so I can get on the bus and be on my merry way lol…but everyone is different so🤷🏾♂️
As someone who prefers dark colors I wear a reflector on my bag strap and use my phone light when walking at nite so I dun turn into a goth pancake.
I preach this every single day.
Fun to see you film on a Long Beach bus! In this rider's opinion, LB transit is great, with some of the nicest drivers around. 😊
I'm a bus operator in Chicago and I have to learn that disability doesn't always be screen from a person so I have to take that into consideration because my younger daughter have autism. I would be honest with y'all them phone apps ventra get on my nerves. I miss the tokens and bus cards from the 90s growing up. I get that hey bus driver, can I get a ride all the time, I just tell them to go because I don't have time for this.
The folks in charge at 567 actually know that the token era was the speediest way to pay fares. The Ventra rollout (with spotty WiFi) was brutal.
My passengers have been helpful. If they needed my bus route, they flash their lights on their phone. I’m also scanning the bus stop as well.
Our bus fare is very cheap in Indy. 4 bucks for an all day pass. I love driving the Gilligs myself.
I’m an operator too I didn’t see anyone till the last minute and they were sitting at the bus stop at night kept driving as I passed he got up waving his arms I also get people during the day as I pull up sit there don’t say anything or and I point do you want this bus finally they nod and shake their heads noooo
A lot of these problems don’t exist in mainland China because buses in mainland Chinese cities will stop and open the doors at every bus stop along the route, even when there’s nobody waiting for the bus at the bus stop (because someone onboard maybe getting off the bus there).
In Hong Kong, Macau and many areas in the rest of the World, the norm is to hail the bus at the bus stop and press the stop bell if you want to alight at a certain midway bus stop.
as an hker, it annoys me when the person at the front of the line is not waving down the bus like HES NOT GOING TO STOP WHAT. ARE. YOU. DOING.
I can't stand when people wave at me (I can see you, day time of course) DON'T WAVE AT US. Don't stand on the edge of the stand (not safe to do)
The norm in many cities is to hail the bus 🚌🚍 when you see the bus arriving at the bus stop (if no one hails the bus, that would indicate nobody wants that bus), and the bus simply continues on if nobody onboard presses the stop bell.
Can’t stand the “bus inspectors” that get on and look then decide they’re going…. Get on fool let’s go!!
If I'm at downtown Chicago or any other cities and I want to catch a certain bus route, i would wave it like a taxi cab or look forward instead of being on my phone and if i don't want the bus i would used my hand gesture to tell them no or turn my back or move back to let them know that I don't want their bus route so they could keep on moving. I hope those tips would help out the passengers.
I sometimes try to explain some of these things to people when I nearly pass them or when I can barely see them yet pull in. Much of the time they look at me like I'm the moron or there's a language barrier when I try to explain to them. And in regards to your phone comment, I see that a lot with Generation Z...Gen Zombie.
This is good and simple rules to follow.😀
I ride the bus in Los Angeles a lot. One time there was 2 cute college girls asking the driver directions. He gave them wrong info. I told them the right info. They told me “u don’t know, he’s the driver.” I said the driver don’t ride the bus he drives it. I tried to help them
Here’s a funny story
I was cycling across India
I was north in the country of
Nepal. I was at a city called
Hetuda. I tried to catch a bus 40mi back to the border of India. I was waiting at a bus stop and a driver pulled up and stop I said do u go to the border ? He said yes and sped off, I was just standing there. In Nepal people ride on top of the bus, I’m serious. The guys on top were laughing at me. lol
In Dresden busses and trams have to stop at a bus stop when there's anybody near it, even if the person is just walking. There are also stops where the bus or tram has to stop, even if there's no one there, mostly when the fare zone is changing. It also used to be that a tram (idk if busses too) can pass a station only at 20km/h. Now it's 40 km/h (13 and 25 mph for you Americans 😉)
Also most passengers signal to the operator if they don't want to get on.
Come again when you see a dark-clad person in the dark in Sweden. A flashlight is the best way to be seen. But otherwise I agree with everything you say. I recognize myself as a bus driver.
I’m a bus driver in Adelaide South Australia here you have to hail the bus …
I think here in Arkansas they’re low key embarrassed to ride the bus. It’s like they’re standing near the bus stop but “playing it off” that they’re just chilling. Betta chill yoself on this bus before you miss ya ride. 😂😂😂
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Even in a big city having to stand on the side of the road for a bus or in the middle of an expressway for a train, while cars fly by and ppl staring dirty looks can be embarrassing.
Im in a big city in Arizona we have a large population of people that use the bus stops as apartments. On streets at night its rare to find one that doesnt have people sitting (or sleeping) in stops with no need for a bus. I roll by the shelter or sign and make them walk at least 5 feet towards door so i know. I have already put the stop in my rear view mirror many times and people stand up and move out of sitting position... too late
I like your videos, but you should focus more on the wheelchair lift and how to secure wheelchair users AND have a co-host with a Sacramento Paratransit driver as well.
If you want the bus to stop then you need to WAVE A HAND AT THE BUS TO GET THE DRIVER'S ATTENTION!!! Also for everyone else on the bus PLEASE HAVE YOUR BUS FARE READY BEFORE YOU BOARD!!!!!
The system I work in Western Washington. The biggest issue is everybody. Dresses in black clothes and stands like a statue. As we are approaching in the dark, you try and explain to them that you cannot see them. And they look at you like you're on drugs. The other public service announcement, I would say yes, at least within our system, if you were standing right out at the edge of the curb and you're over 5 foot 7 tall, you are probably going to have a headache if the bus driver pulls into the stop normally.#watchthemirror
Do you drive the bus during the day and night or separate hours of the day?
Is there a preferred way to tell approaching bus driver that you don’t want that particular route so they don’t have to stop just to find out you’re waiting for a different route? I have brain injury so shaking head “no” is not option and I only have one arm that works properly. Typically I stand when I first see the bus coming then when I realize it’s not my route I will sit down. If there is no bench I will back up from the sign away from the road. Would there be a better way using one arm to tell the driver that you DON’T want that bus?
your job seems fun you guys hiring
is it not a thing in the us to wave down a bus or put your arm out?
I have to disagree at time on a windy day I turn my face form the wind I’ll put my face down and turn my back to it
You’re talking about an exception to the rule. In GENERAL you should face towards traffic…BUT of course there will be times when you can’t do so…like on an extremely windy day.
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what about most people that are in the wheelchairs
Can I use a LANDING LIGHT?
I take public transit frequently on a moderate size system, definitely make yourself known to the operator that you want the bus, I hold out my discount fare card to signal to the driver, if a stop serves multiple routes I'll wave the bus by if it isn't the one I need, my local transit system uses the app onebusaway. I can use the app to get the scheduled arrival time for the route I need, be at the stop early, and keep an eye out for the bus you shouldn't miss it.
Good advice! Seems like you're a pro bus rider!