How Much Power Does A 2004 Mach 1 Make In 2021? | Mustang Mach 1 Dyno
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- Today, we dyno our recently acquired 2004 Azure Blue Mach 1! And who doesn't love a Mach 1 dyno! So follow along and enjoy the sounds of this 4V!
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"4 valve prevails" cries in 2 valve.
Nothing a 100 shot from a Zex kit cant handle
@@madmod true. But supercharger is even better.
@@aktionp20 Better is subjective. Either spray or a blower can easily take the mod motor past the point of reliability so what makes one better than the other?
This makes me smile. I have an 03 that is just shy of 70k miles. 4.10 gears, short shifter, BBK 65mm throttle body, C&l cold air, sct 93 tune, cat delete, slp loudmouth. I've always heard these were underrated. But it's been difficult to find dyno numbers on these with similar mods as mine. You guys are awesome
Miss my 03 Mach 1 in torch red. I bought it brand new at 18 years old. It got totaled in 2016 when a teenager T boned me a mile from my house.
My 50k mile fox had a similar fate..only it was a soccer mom in a minivan
Sucks to hear it man
My 04 dsg mach1 had a k&n cai, borla catback, everything else was 100% stock. Made 296rwhp and 316rwtq if I remember correctly. Damn I miss that car.
My 03 made 277 stock with under 2,000 miles on it. It did get quicker in the quarter and faster overall with over 10,000 miles. FYI, my engine bay nor under carriage have never looked like that LOL.
Do a Series with this one! Would be nice to see this Mach get love with the new ones getting all the attention...
Love these! Had a lot of fun going against M1 cars with my 01 Z28, these cars were definitely underrated.
Yessssss I've been waiting for this. Recently bought my mach glad to see the numbers.
Haha the talent of an automatic transmission lol
Nice car and vid!
Ive always been a chevy/pontiac guy but ive always liked these mach1 mustangs. This thing is gorgeous👌
Very similar to my ‘03 that is still running strong, thanks LMR!
My mach swapped 97 Cobra put down 305/325 with intake and exhaust. Glad to see my numbers are in line with these
Azure blue mach 1. Honestly a dream car of mine.
That's great. I have a stock Comp Orange 04, I would love to see you do a series on this car and see how various mods increase power.
These were 320hp cars from the factory. Ford under-rated them as well as the terminator very conservatively after getting in so much trouble with the 99 Cobra. There was no reason the car shouldn’t have been rated at 320hp like the 01 Cobra, especially with the better heads. These cars easily put down 280 RWHP stock when they were new which is the 320hp number with drive rain loss
These engines have almost 20° less duration on the intake lobe so even with the better heads, they dont quite exceed the power production of a post fix 99/01 cobra engine. The camshaft change is why the engine wasnt rated the extra 20 horsepower as is the idea that the Mach and Cobra were not meant to be compteting for sales. That said, any of the earlier cobra intake cams in a 03+ headed 4v will likely exceed the power of any 99/01 post fix combo.
You also have to consider that the 03/04 mach 1 exceeded the torque production of the cobra by almost 20 ft lbs too. They are very comparable to eachother but the cobra was better optemized for top end.
That car was definitely underrated from the factory. It was probably closer to 350 hp at the crank judging by that dyne run.
If i recall correctly ford under the table retracted the hp rating for both the bullitt and the mach 1
275 vs 265hp for the bullitt
335hp vs 305hp for the mach 1
You can still find some old forum post talking about the change till this day
@@GoGoggansGo sweet i just bought 1 comp orange cool air intake w a borla cat back exhaust guna throw bbk long tube headers and get it dyno after
This car is not stock in general manual Mach 1's made around 275ish rwhp on a Dynojet bone stock. At the flywheel totally stock your looking at about 320hp 340tq, which adds up as they run about the same MPH in the 1/4 as the 99 & 01 cobra's. If they truly had 350 hp stock they'd be trapping close to the same as a manual LS1 f-body which they unfortunate don't.
@@GoGoggansGo Correct, I own a 2001 Bullitt, 265 HP
I had an 04 competition orange Mach 1 that made these exact same numbers, had an off road x, flow masters, drop in k&n filter, intake spacer and a tune, definitely a fun car!
I'm a coyote fan but I still love these cars. They look awesome and are so fun to drive.
Love these videos 👍
I had an 03. These cars are a very unique experience.
Obviously Ford underrated these.
Factory tune is the issue
Definitely did. Miss my 03 DSG Mach.
They are like wine, they get better as they age lol
I don't think that it was necessarily underated. It has nearly every bolt on mod. JLT, xpipe exhaust. These motors need to breathe to make power on top end. The most restrictive parts were removed. The mach 1 really wasn't any faster than the GT until you let it breathe.
@@frankmc5112 my bone stock manual 03 Mach went 13.3@107. This was before I did mid pipe, JLT etc. I have a 99 GT stock and it went 14.0. Have a Procharger sitting in the garage ready to go on now. Should be good for 400-425 at the wheels.
Ford definitely underrated these👏🏾
Dyno numbers sound about right, Ford definitely underrated the 2003-04 Mach 1s from the factory. My 2004 Mach made a little more with full exhaust (Kooks long tubes/offroad X-pipe, Borla Stinger catback) and C&L ram air intake, plus 93 octane tune.
I had a 2003 Mach 1 and it made 299HP and 324TQ
You guys are awesome
Thats a beautiful blue.
Always wanted one!
Keep bringing them
After reading these comments I'm extremely happy with my Mach 1. JLT CAI, OR X-pipe, Magnaflow comp exhaust and made 310rwhp with the dyno tune.
Good to know. I have a bit more mods on mine so i figure over 300hp at the wheels. Best quarter mile time for me is 12.8@110. 4:10 gears is a must on these.
4v and 4:10 should have been the factory standard 👍
@@eriv4735 they got a longer gear for mileage reasons, I don't actually like anything over a 3.73, if you have real power 4.10s makes 1st unusable
admiral_peck 7 To each their own
@@Prestiged_peck honestly i love cruising at like 2k rpms car be chilling on the hwy
The stock gearing on new edges were very crappy. Tall gears for gas mileage. 4.10s, exhaust, and intake mods really wake these up.
Bought my ‘03 torch red with 39k in 2018. Previous owner had a tune, full Magnaflow exhaust and JLT intake elbow. Made 320/335 at rear wheels with the tune on 93. Ford definitely under rated them from factory. Now running a P1SC Procharger, 60lb injectors, McLeod RST Twin Disc and Deutschwerks 350lph pump making 421/365 at the wheels. Next step is to go forged internals and turbo or whipple.
Loved my Mach 1. Had it for 8 years. Was interested in the 2021 Mach 1 until it was announced. That’s when I sold my Mach in December due to the inflation in price of these cars and went out and bought my dream car. 2013 race red boss 302.
I was just thinking about how much i loveed the feel of my old 13 boss the experience and emotions are unexplainable compared to the 20 10r80 5.0s
I love my ‘04. Best car ever!
That’s good numbers
Damm clean that engine bay lol
I miss my 2v just gor the sound. 4.6 2V is one of the best sounding V8s in history.
4v for life unless its a lightning lol
I have gold edition laser red GT with 99k miles on it love it
I have an Azure blue 2004 Mach 1 with the K&N air intake and Steeda borla exhaust and a tune 300 to the rear wheels with an automatic
Amazing
I'd like to see you guys do a 2006-2011 crownvic police interceptor dyno with full exhaust system and cold air intake
09 P71 made 220rwhp stock, 240rwhp on 87 octane with longtube headers, high flow cats n open cutouts, then 249rwhp on 93 octane Marty tuned..
My 03 made 310whp. Pro Dyno in Rock Hill, SC. Full bolt on car minus LT headers.
Those are solid numbers! Congrats. -Landan
Please do more videos of mods for this mach 1 like headers throttle body etc
Glad to see another high mileage Mach 1 like mine still has some life left in it
That shows if you take care of an engine and do the proper maintenance it stays healthy.
I came so close to buying a car just like that before I got my 16 GT. I absolutely love that blue. The car ran really nice, but when I drove the new car...
Bought a 04 new. Wish I had never sold it. It was the same color.
I had an 03 Mach for a couple of years. It was very odd they rated them with 10 less hp than the 00-01 cobra but the Mach would actually dyno around 10hp higher. Probably the slightly higher compression would be my guess.
I think it would be very interesting to overlay this mach 1 dyno graph over the 1999 cobra dyno graph. That would put a lot of rumors to bed on the hp/tq curves.
Below are links to two 1999 Cobras that we've dyno'd. Feel free to pause the videos at the graphs and study the power/torque curves. -Landan
ua-cam.com/video/wB-ucpLj_j4/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/kMAC3RzoJ3Y/v-deo.html
Nice car.
Nice
do a 94 cobra
I want to see a 96-98 cobra if they can find one that hasn't been destroyed or modified to hell
hell yeah brother,wait kinda looks just like mine a lil,just saying
Well Yeeeehawww!!! Oh negative now the values are going up even more now.
Anyone know the music name? Nostalgic but never heard it before.
299 to the wheels holy smokes
I should have brought my bone stock 2004 Cobra with 13k miles to you before I sold it... would have been interesting to see what it produced on the dyno
Below are two videos where we dyno'd stock 03-04 Cobras for reference. -Landan
2004 Cobra Dyno: ua-cam.com/video/OyGsnLujp-g/v-deo.html
2003 Cobra Dyno: ua-cam.com/video/kcBC2k6F1rU/v-deo.html
thanks, I'll check 'em out. I still need to upload my video driving it to LMR. I live just down the street from y'all and am friends with quite a few of y'all
Beautiful Mach. I wonder what the market is for those lately
While, for whatever reason Mustangs fans are not partial to the SN95 gen, the 4 valve models are up in value and raising regularly. Cobra's are getting out of reach for most folks but you might find a Mach 1 for just over average. (13-18K)
@@jamesbarone7885 that’s not bad
@@jamesbarone7885 Getting harder to find low mileage great condition examples. We bought ours new in 03 and has 25,830 miles on it. As the Cobras go up so will these , as an owner I am glad to see it.
You guys ever gonna mod this thing
Just got a mach 1...how much whp can it handle?!
Please do now the 2001 mustang bullitt
Unfortunately, we do not have a 2001 Bullitt. If we ever get the chance, we will dyno one!
My 98 cobra with 118k miles has similar mods and makes the exact same hp but only makes 293 tq. Damn B heads 😅 It does good for what it is though.
Was this the era of the 4V that had a recall for not making the advertised power? Or was that the 1999 era?
That was the 99 cobras
That was 1999. The '03-'04 Machs and Cobras were underrated. Ford didn't want t make the same mistake twice.
The ole story goes ......is that Ford was going to make a 2002 cobra with a better engine.......and stoped the plan......in 2003-2004 the Mach 1 Mustang got the engine that's was supposed to go in the 2002 Cobra
The Mach 1 is really cool but i also want a saleen mustang so bad
This car is suitable for people who are 195cm or narrow??
Future mods?
It needs some cams and that engine bay could use a degreasing
The manual was rated at 310/335. The auto was rated at 305/320 due to the lower redline.
@@turbojetpowered8299 Ahh that's right. I forgot about that, probably because it's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of Ford doing. Why would you switch to a cast crank version of the motor? Any cost savings would be negated by having two variants for the same model of car.
@@nicholaswidlewski8876 They would do that for the, "real men drive standard" boys, didn't want ppl complaining they lost to an automatic..lol
@@P71ScrewHead Do what? Rate it lower? What kind of nonsense is that? The automatics *were* always slower back then. I should know - I've had multiple SN-95s, one of which was an auto, and it was indeed slower than its manual counterpart. In the Mach 1's case, not only did it have one less gear to work with, but the 4.6 auto Mach 1 didn't have as high of a redline which affected its max power.
You must not have much knowledge of cars going back further than four or five years. Automatics only started getting faster when they started adding *MORE* gears than the manual transmissions had, which is a very recent change. They now do a better job of staying in the powerband than a manual can due to all of those extra running gears. If you even go back to the 15'-17' S550 5.0s, the manuals were still quicker than the 6-speed autos.
@@nicholaswidlewski8876 You're not getting my point, the car makers coulda easily made the automatics much faster n even redline the same as the standard cars but they chose not to.. It was a choice, not an unwanted limitation.. I set my redline to 6k rpm in my 09 P71 when it was all stock with no issues at all.. Stock is 5,700rpm, huge difference..
Wish I never sold my off road h pipe for my 95 cobra.
Gt. Then swap the n/a sohc 2V 4.6 for the N/A Dohc 4 valve 4.6 and u got a mach 1. Add a supercharger and it's an 03 04 terminator the greatest streetcar to do it
Was there any difference between the Mach 1 4 valve and the Marauder 4 valve engine ?
turbojet powered Thanks , I did not know the difference. If I put a tune on my 2003 Marauder ( 26,500 ) original miles, in your opinion what would be a reasonable max rpm ?
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@@thomasdaum1927 6k is normal, maybe a bit more, all depends on the hp numbers..
Love my sn95 cobra but I'd trade it for a Mach in a heart beat lol
I have a mach 1 drivetrain in an sn95. Live axle and very light-weight with a 4v Aviator engine. Its a super affordable swap too
@@madmod I bet it's amazing man! I ended going the easy route I guess we could call it lol and just got a coyote although I do really miss my sn95 cobra😕
@@madmod I hear those aviator engines hold up really well!
@@venom5oh939 They are a great bang for the buck. All aluminum, 10:1 compression. 04 engines have cooling improvments on the heads as well as a pretty cool intake manifold.
@@venom5oh939 coyotes are kickass too
Sheesh, no wonder it took a 4v with a blower bolted on before Ford made a Mustang faster than a LS1 F-body. Watch the Horsepower TV special where they tested a stock 2000 Camaro Z28 before and after with Royal Purple fluids and it made over 300hp at the rear wheels. And I own a 1999 Mustang GT convertible for weekends and a 2000 Camaro V6 for commuting so don't think I'm a Chevy fanboy lol. I just drive what I like.
I wonder what it would make with the stock intake and mufflers, I bet those were pretty restrictive.
These cars actually make 320hp at the crank
Wow only 299 hp? That doesn’t seem like a lot
4vs are beautiful looking engines, but man the 2v’s are so easy to mod and always take 1/2 the amount of parts.
Only half the amount of valvetrain components..literally everything else including ease of modification is the same
But all other things equal, will not offer the same power potential. 4V is definitely a 2V killer
@@chadkent1241 Correct, but as a 2v guy i've always feared the leaks n issues the 4v can give.. Putting TrickFlow top end on my 09 P71 by the end of this year..
Why in the world would they not use the shaker hood?
because cold air intake advertising conned them into getting rid of it. Theres 0 reason to do an intake on these cars.
I just don’t get how it made peak power at only 5000rpm it should be closer to 6100-6200rpm.
Someone tell the the truth do these mach motors usually last over 100k , I juat bought one and I hear both yes and no
As long as you complete regular maintenance and keep it in good condition, it will last you a long time!
I just cracked 154k miles and i drive it hard. I need to do the valve stem seals cuz it smokes on start up but that doesn't hurt anything really, just a lil oil seeping past the valves into the combustion chamber, embarrassing yes, hurtful no. Change your oil, coolant(fluids in general) plugs regularly, only run good gas, and keep up on maintenance and don't ignore problems and you'll have no problem with the engine lasting. My dad's 02 navigator with the 5.4 dohc just cracked 223k miles and JUST lay
Last week developed rod knock, but it made it a whopping 223k miles!!! That's amazing if you think about it, for stock motor that's never been opened up or rebuilt..... These dohc motors last just fine, so long as you take care of em and do the maintenance
on mach 1 groups on facebook, there are many many people in the 100k-200+k range. Just take care of it and it will last.
2 valves matter!!!
Shouldn't change the front bumper at all. You guys should put it back to stock. Now if it was GT who cares LOL 😂
You do know GTs and machs had the as bumpers right lol
@@urenaanthony91 No shxt did they!?
Please wash and detail the undercarriage along with the rest of the car. Looks like someone took this car mudding.
-10000000 for not keeping the shaker functional.
ford under rates all their stuff
2v sounds better imo
The cobra parts on non cobra cars is so played out
Doing the same modifications as everyone else is played out. It's time to get rid of black wheels.
Agree... Black wheels are boring.
IMO, the front Cobra facsia on a Mach 1 is a classy mod. Gives it a real unique look
Could not agree more! Get some deep-dish Mach 1 style wheels on that thing and also turf the Terminator front bumper cover in favor of a factory unit with chin spoiler.
Yes so let's keep everything stock then 🤣🤣 s55os are putting gt350 bumpers on there.stovk bumpers just don't look good. I was lucky enough to find a 99/01 Cobra front
I'm so spoiled I would fall asleep driving a 300hp mustang.
@@Prestiged_peck i be trying to tell people the same .
@@Prestiged_peck My 2017 GT weights 3680 lbs with out driver. I have NEVER had a Mach 1 come even close to staying with my GT. My GT ran 12.6@116mph. The Mach 1 was a low 13's at best. I do love the looks of the Mach's, they are very nice. They are almost 20 years old now.
@@davew9374 someone must've misquoted the new mustang's weight to me then, still lighter though. My 96 gt weighs like 3075 with me in it, and it's full interior with lightweight racing seats, I can drop like 200lbs in like 30 minutes if I want though, back seats, the passenger's seat, spare tire and tools, etc.
@@Prestiged_peck wtf the s550 is under 3800lbs and as my name I have a roush mustang stage 2 so I'm sitting at 700rwhp, so from my point of view I would still fall asleep!!!!
@@carguy... well a roush is a different story, that would be more comparable to the roush/saleen models available the same year which were capable of 4-600 wheel depending on the base car.
Such a nice car to butcher with the stupid Cobra nose and hideous aftermarket wheels. Did someone actually think these were an improvement? Such a shame.
Wheels and bumpers are easy fixes. Plus, what people do to their cars is up to them. Since this video was released, we've installed our SVE 17" Mach 1 style wheels, Ford OEM GT (Mach 1) bumper, and chin spoiler. -Landan
Mustangs are boring….
Question dose 2003 nach1 with 190k is worth 10k exact same color
Gerardo - Prices of vehicles can vary based on location. There are several variables that can dictate the asking price of a vehicle. I would shop around and see what other people are asking. Hope this helps. -Landan