There was a study done since this video was made that was presented at a conference recently about Osteostrong. Here are some facts about that study: - We cannot find a registered protocol. Rules in all medical scientific journals require (i.e., it is mandatory) all clinical trial protocols to be registered in advance of starting recruitment, to make sure that the process is transparent. We have sent a request to the authors about the protocol registration. No response yet. - Because we cannot find the protocol, we cannot verify or evaluate the methods. We note that the abstract (brief summary) that was published indicates that they did statistical analyses on bone mineral density T-scores, which is not appropriate, in our opinion. There was an imbalance in baseline values and it is not clear if they controlled for that. - The presentation is being promoted by some affiliated with Osteostrong as a "groundbreaking article" presented to 7000 endocrinologists at a conference. It was a poster presentation. The only thing that gets published is a ~300 word summary. Most poster presentations get accepted when they are submitted. At most conferences, the presenter stands beside their poster and people can choose to come by to ask questions. We feel they are over-stating the significance and audience of the presentation. - The trial included people on medications. Medications can confound the outcomes. - The study has not been published in full in a medical journal. If it is not registered, they will have difficulty publishing it.
After reading all the comments, it's clear that the people who are supporting OsteoStrong are not trained in the principles of scientific method. I appreciate your willingness to respond to their claims in a clear and respectful manner. May I ask you what the boneslab opinion is of Dr. Loren Fishman's yoga method for osteoporsis?
@@seaspotz The studies done on Dr Fishman’s program were done by Dr Fishman and the risk of bias is high. There are multiple methodological issues that prevent any meaningful conclusions. We did a systematic review of studies of yoga in people with low bone mass. There are hardly any and those that exist are not good. There are studies in older adults that suggest it may improve physical functioning and balance. No studies on falls though there is one ongoing in Australia right now. I would say that if your goal is to improve function and balance then yoga might be effective. But there is no evidence that it increases bone mineral density or prevents falls at present.
I would love to invite you to one of the OsteoStrong Centers so you can first hand see the results with member's DEXA Scans. It is easy to disprove a company that is up against Big PHARMA, but it is not so easy to actually go into the location and see the bone density scans first hand. OsteoStrong is very effective and I hope one day they will have the "scientific proof" for those who don't understand simple science and Wolf's Law.
My family had a positive experience doing OsteoStrong and I will forever be grateful to a friend who recommended to me. A few things do come into play here that weren't mentioned, did the participants have any underlying conditions? Are they taking medication? Some people who are elderly are so deconditioned and can't lift weights enough to stimulate any bone growth. So OsteoStrong is definitely helpful when it comes to those cases. A few of my family members go to OsteoStrong, its been over a year and 3 of them have reversed their Osteoporosis. Two of my family members reversed it completely and didn't take any medication ever, and my uncle has stayed the same without any decline in bone density. It's not for everyone that's for sure but worked for the people I know.
It is a myth that older adults, even those who are frail, cannot do strength training. There are many research studies showing that they can do it and can benefit. Anecdotes are not evidence. I find it very hard to believe that someone could reverse osteoporosis in one year, given that the bone remodeling process in one tiny spot on bone takes ~6 months.
I have seen several high quality, healthy athletes, that train for marathons and that are avid CrossFit training athletes that had osteoporosis into their late 60's early 70's, that have since reversed their osteoporosis only after beginning the OsteoStrong program. It is the one thing we all are physically missing, especially as we age. @boneslab
@@calebwade2834 anecdotes are not evidence. Osteostrong affiliated people have lots of anecdotes, from what I have seen. You seem to have a vested interest based on the content on your channel?
My 83 year ols friend who has been doung Osteostrong for about a year says she can open jars with no trouble now, can carry her own grocery bags, and has lost the flab under her arms. She says she has more energy and is able to enjoy a more activevlife than prior to joining.
I am happy for her. The video is mainly focused on Osteostrong's claims that it can increase bone mineral density, which are not backed by randomized controlled trials. It is important for people to have choices, and to be informed about the evidence related to those choices. Some people might decide the cost is not worth it, and that they can get stronger and fitter from a basic strength training program and healthy diet, which arguably could be cheaper than an Osteostrong membership. Glad your friend is feeling good!
@@mikkijpedrayes1332 This is not a case of "try it because it can't hurt to try". Osteostrong costs money. People are investing money and time. Thus, for people on a fixed income, spending money on something for which there is little evidence could be harmful. There are anecdotal reports of fractures during Osteostrong, as well as fractures reported in a clinical trial. Our video helps people make informed choices. There is no randomized controlled trial or good evidence that shows that Osteostrong does what is claimed. Just case series done by or funded by the manufacturer. Even the most recent "ground breaking" report was only an abstract from a poster presentation of a trial that is not registered, and does T-tests on T-scores, which is not appropriate.
I can testify that I go and I'm feeling much better. I don't know too much about the scientific bone density and mineral gensity. I do what I can with my supplements. But I will tell you after a couple of sessions at Osteo. Strong, I cannot deny that I feel better.
Try OsteoStrong, I live in Florida and started going to OsteoStrong. After a year I had a DEXA scan done and my spine had moved out of Osteoporosis and is now Osteopenia. I take Garden of Life Bone Growth Calcium which has 2 with the 2nd being Strontium which we need. Trust me I was cautious when I joined as I was concerned with throwing my money away but I am not. Yes, free weights are great as long as you are doing them correctly. Walking, dancing, aerobics, NIA classes all help our bones. I will continue using OsteoStrong. If people are saying the machines caused bone fractures it means the clients weren’t honest about how bad their bones were. Good luck!
I'm 52 male and have been doing strength training consistently for 30 years. My bone density has dropped 6% in the last 2 years and i have osteoporosis. I cant see how a much older female could get the fast bone density improvements with a few osteostrong exercises once a week.
Firstly, you need medical evaluation since that rate of bone loss in a relatively young male is seriously abnormal. Regarding Osteostrong, it works because the force applied to bones greatly exceeds that produced during usual weight lifting actions, which are limited to the weight that can be moved through the weakest point of the exercise movement. For bone strengthening, you can modify your exercise to employ much heavier weights by restricting movement to where your muscles can apply highest force. For example, doing partial squats where you only drop about 2-3 inches from standing straight up, allows use of vastly greater weight.
how about investigating osteostrong customers that claim to have increased bone density - there must be a lot of them or why else would they continue going to osteostong? To be definitive, you should really have your own radomized trial showing osteostrong is not effective, and I don't see any mention of such in the video.
The company that is making claims (and money on said claims) that they can reverse osteoporosis should be the ones to ensure they have a trial to back up their claims.
And besides, have you not heard of the placebo effect? If people want to see something badly enough, they will fully believe it's happening and avoid genuine tests to confirm or deny their observations.
@@seaspotz Not true, I have seen countless OsteoStrong members show Bone density scans from before and after going and the results are always nothing short of amazing. Go into a center and talk to some members and they will show you their scans first hand.
Thanks for the great video review. Do you have a link to the reference comparing osteostrong to standard strength program? I could not find it on pubmed. Thanks!
The creators of Osteostrong had different variations of their devices, the one used in the trial was one of them. They provided the devices to the scientist leading the trial.
I am not aware of any studies that exist on rebounding and bone health and I have not lead studies on it. I don't see any benefit to doing it over the types of exercise that are recommended in guidelines e.g., balance, functional, strength training. I would be concerned that a loss of balance on the rebounder could increase fracture risk.
Thank you for the overview Boneslab. I have been considering trying Osteostrong despite the lack of robust trials showing any benefit - as there also did not appear to be any evidence of harm. I was concerned to hear of the study you mention in your video that showed spinal fractures in 5 Osteostrong participants vs 0 in the control group. I can’t find that study, are you able to provide a link so I can evaluate? Many thanks
Some new information following my introductory visit to an OsteoStrong center: The Spectrum exercise machines are equipped with computers which display and record the force produced by the patient during their effort. However, I discovered that the calibration of the force measurement is so far off, that it is misguiding and misleading the users. For example, my measurement on one leg press machine showed that an actual force of 270 lb applied to the machine resulted in a reading of 474 lb on the computer display. That is a 75% exaggeration, and this is not merely a small calibration error; it is a gross scale factor miss. Something is entirely wrong in the software. Why is this important? The claim is that for femur bone density to improve, there must be a force of at least 4.2 times body weight achieved on the leg press machine. But because of the calibration problem, it is necessary to make the machine read at least 7.4 times body weight. Any users achieving forces in the 4.3 to 7.3 times body weight range, will not be in therapeutic range for their femurs, but they will not be aware of this issue. I may attempt to visit other OsteoStrong centers to see if their machines are similarly miscalibrated. I am also attempting to contact someone at OsteoStrong to discuss this finding.
not to mention when they adjust the machine (which it often resets to the wrong place) a slight change grossly changes how much force it reads. And every time they update the software those numbers change. The numbers are all bs as far as I can tell.
"my measurement on one leg press machine showed that an actual force of 270 lb applied to the machine" - how execyly did you measure the "actual force applied"?
@eugin5134 Digital scales will work in any position, provided they are resting against a solid, flat surface. Once the scale is placed into position and before any force is applied to the weighing platform, the tare feature is used to zero the reading.
NIH doesn't usually do studies, they fund them. We have done an extensive search of medical literature and have not found a published randomized trial with a bone mineral density outcome. We updated our search recently. There was apparently one done in Greece but they have not fully published the results nor registered the protocol. There was also one presented at a conference recently but there were issues with the way they did the analysis which made interpretation impossible. If you found a study that we have missed, please share.
My problem with them is that you are not supervised by a professional PT. They are just technicians. That was the deciding factor for me not to join. I would never pay the fees that are asking without professional training. I went for a trial and it was quite evident.
I am not sure what link you are talking about. UA-cam often includes advertisements on all of their videos - maybe that is what you are seeing? The link to my professional website is here: uwaterloo.ca/kinesiology-health-sciences/profiles/lora-giangregorio The link to our BonES lab Facebook page is here: facebook.com/UWBonESLab
There are some good observations but the emphasis on the "controlled group" is flawed. It's obvious and commonly accepted that our bone density naturally declines over time so the need to have a controlled group is not high. So if a particular program can improve bone density then not having a controlled group shouldn't be the reason to discredit the efficacy. There is also an ethical aspect of having a controlled group. Will you knowingly ask an osteoporotic group of people to not do exercises? The negative commentary on "OsteoStrong is a "for profit" company is very misguided and showed a bias of the reviewer. Gyms, pharmaceutical companies, Physio, personal trainers etc are mostly for profit and there is nothing wrong about providing services to the community for a fee. On safety, any physical modality will have a certain degree of risk and people hurt themselves in the gym every day of the week...so the claim that the program is safe should be taken in context...nothing will guarantee that there is no risk of injury even for the strength training that you recommended. Anyone can pick a study to prove or disprove anything these days so everyone needs to use their own judgement and not discount the efficacy of certain treatments because there is one study that didn't support the conclusion of the previous studies. If the reviewer is genuinely interested in providing an objective review, at least, they should briefly participate in OsteoStrong to have a hands-on experience. Lastly, if the reviewer is genuinely interested in reviewing OsteoStrong, they should do some more background reading to know that OsteoStong machines are the newer version of BioDensity machines which have been around for many years and there are many more studies on the efficacy of BioDensity machines that demonstrated the efficacy in improving bone density.
1. The "for profit" nature of a company and it's claims is relevant when the claims come from "science" published by a creator, owner, or person who works for the company, and stands to benefit. For example, many older industry funded trials of glucosamine supplements tended to show a benefit whereas non-industry funded ones did not. 2. Bone mineral density scans do not always report decreases with age. Lumbar spine bone mineral density can appear to increase with age on scans because of artifact due to arthritis in the spine, or because of aortic calcification - both are extremely common. Some people may not experience increases in bone mineral density with exercise. So, yes, to confirm if something works, you do need a randomized trial with a control group, or a very large, very high quality alternative study design (e.g., large observational study with dose response data and that controls for confounders and other sources of bias), neither of which exist for Osteostrong. 3. Researchers need to report data from ALL participants, not just the ones where bone mineral density increases on scans. It can be easy to show benefits by removing data from people who don't respond the way you expect them to, and only reporting data from those that show "benefits". And some people whose scans show "benefits" might actually just be methodologic error or artifact. 4. It is ethical to do exercise studies with control groups. You can also compare Osteostrong to other treatments, which has been done, by an independent group of investigators, and they did not report the same benefits reported in the other studies that Osteostrong uses in their claims. 5. Nothing can be guaranteed to be safe - true. But for patients to make decisions they need some estimate of how much benefit there is relative to how much risk. One should not claim something is safe without data to back it up on HOW safe it is. The whole "but millions of people use it" or anecdotal evidence tells you nothing about the people who stopped using it and never said anything. 6. "Anyone can pick a study..." - We didn't pick one study. We read ALL of them. Our team did seven systematic reviews of ALL existing trials on exercise for osteoporosis, and published the reviews (do a Pubmed search for Giangregorio and systematic review if you want receipts). We could not find even one study to support the claims made. 7. How in the heck is having one hands-on experience going to help a scientist or patient know if Osteostrong is effective for improving bone mineral density? That makes no sense. 8. We reviewed all the BioDensity science too. There are no randomized controlled trials of biodensity looking at bone mineral density of the spine and hip. 9. What is your expertise in clinical trials, or bone physiology, Woodie? Do you work for Osteostrong?
@@boneslab Thanks for your reply. Your lab is focusing on a noble cause by working on strength and balance which is important in preventing fracture risk. I and my mum benefitted from OsteoStrong program and have seen many 'gurus' trying to talk it down just because they don't believe improving bone density naturally is possible. I just think of how many people who could have benefitted from the program that have been turned off by this VDO. I hope you will continue to review upcoming research on osteogenic loading and if possible update this VDO if new evidence emerges. Thank you.
@@wutti88 I will most definitely review any studies that emerge. In the interim it is important that patients know the truth about the evidence, and their website is very misleading. And there are reports of fractures in people who have received Osteostrong, although hard to confirm cause and effect with the low numbers.
Whereas most medical studies certainly justify randomization and a control group, in this case, there is an objective measurement available to quantify results, so all that is required, is a well defined test plan and procedure that is consistently applied to every test subject. We all know that bone density will decrease over time in adults; any increase represents confirmation of the exercise program benefits. But I am greatly concerned about the high incidence of spine fractures, which indicates that the exercise program has not been designed for safety.
it is not correct to say that bone mineral density will always decrease with age. spine bone mineral density can appear to increase over time with age because of arthritis, degenerative changes, and aortic calcification - they create artifacts that result in artificial increases on BMD and make it look like BMD is increasing. there are large, population-based studies that report that BMD measured at the spine will increase over time, on average, because of these artifact errors. bone mineral density scans are also very susceptible to measurement error in positioning and analysis. a control group is required if you are going to make claims that you can reverse osteoporosis or increase BMD by up to 14%.
I am not surprised by your findings since I noted Tony Robbins connected to the company. Research and studies with large populations speak volume! Well done!
I do not know why this group would take it upon themselves to try to discredit OsteoStrong, I wonder what their real motivation is? I personally have seen exceptional bone density improvements and I have seen many others at the studio with DEXA confirmed improvements. Not to mention that I am way stronger and have fantastic balance. I have actually taken two falls in the last year with no fractures or injuries, except perhaps a bit of embarrassment. Do not be afraid to try this for yourself. Oh and there is a great study that has come out of Greece the results of which were presented at the ENDO 2023 conference which clearly shows results with control groups led by one of the top endocrinologists in the world.
The goal is not to discredit but to present the facts. The study you mention from Greece did not publish their protocol and it was an abstract presented at a conference that Osteostrong sponsored. When the study is complete and published I’d be happy to review it. Based on the data we have seen from the abstract and elsewhere, it may not be as groundbreaking as they claim. You must be a huge fan given the Osteostrong playlist on your channel. How did you learn about the reputation of the scientists leading the unpublished study?
I'll tell you why, because they are in the pockets with the Pharmaceutical industry. Osteostrong scares them because it's a genuine natural remedy to an issue they are only over complicating.
Let's agree to disagree. Your claims are not supported either. Until you complete a clinical trial and have confirmatory results, you shouldn't be stating your opinion either. As a scientist, you should know this. Osteosteong studies may not have been designed to your liking, but there are millions of people who have been going to the centers and who have improved not just their bone but overall health. Perhaps it would be a better study to connect with the physicians who are treating these people as they can confirm their results.
There is no agree to disagree. The claims that Osteostrong makes are not supported by randomized controlled trials. That is a fact. My claims on exercise are in fact supported, not only by clinical trials, but by meta-analyses, and by national osteoporosis guidelines on exercise that will be released this year (I am an author and I led the exercise guidelines). So, I can state my opinion because I have the receipts. There are 81 clinical trials supporting the claim that exercise reduces falls, 39 that supports the claim that balance and functional training reduces falls...I can go on, but here is the Cochrane review on the topic (www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD012424.pub2/full), and here are the systematic reviews our team did on osteoporosis and impact exercise (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33914282/), resistance training (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33367736/), walking (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33571958/), Pilates (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35080990/), and yoga (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34914565/), among others. There are NO randomized controlled trials of Osteostrong vs control. There is one clinical trial of Osteostrong vs exercise, and it shows no superiority, and there were fractures in the Osteostrong group.
Agree to disagree is the usual "argument" from people who don't understand scientific evidence gathering and analysis but don't care anyways because they simply prefer to believe whatever they wish to be true. Any claim to know the health outcomes of "millions of people" is a sure sign of delusion (or advertising). We should be grateful for scientists at the BonES Lab who can help debunk health scams for those who really want to understand.
If there are truly millions of people who have benefited from their program by having increased bone density on testing plus fewer fractures then 1) Osteostrong has made a lot of money and 2) they should be able to invest in and publish research that shows more than 5 people’s DEXA scan results. That is why I hold them suspect. You made the claim so it’s up to you to show us the numbers.
Apparently you didn’t read the Liftmore Study. Firstly it was Biodensity equipment, whereas OsteoStrong uses Spectrum. And the fractures did not happen on the Biodensity equipment, but in the Physiotherapists exercise group.
Great summary. That said, and I have noticed that in ads and/or other studies where up to 4 women were represented, always one is wearing the hijab. Here it's one at of 3 at first, and at around minute 4, one out of two. This creeping up of veiled women, everywhere, is very disturbing. Siding with Iranian women opposing the oppression of head/face/body covering.
This was probably one of the most weird videos I've seen there are studies for example a recent one in Spain that showed it is working . here in Sweden another study is on going or actually it is finished now and it will be released this year it is done by the Karolinska institute in Stockholm I have seen really good improvements for myself. And we know that loading on the skeleton thus improve and prevent bone minerality loss . This video said there was one study not showing that that this method was better then weight bearing exercise . Actually I don't think they ever claimed that but the study according to the video showed no difference that means it is as good as weight bearing exercise. And for my part and many others I would never have been able to do that other exercise They refer to this as robotic machines that is weird it is like gym machines but they measured the load it is not robots. There is no study showing it is safe ? Kind of weird also do you need a study showing exercise to be safe. ? There is no study showing running being safe so you should not run ? Seriously this video was just all too weird . For many people like me who cannot do other exercise this was phenomenal , and you also save so much time the only downside was that I had to pay for it by myself but after this study in Sweden is published hopefully this will be a part of the healthcare insurance system .
really? after three years, at best my rate of bone loss has slowed. Which is probably owing more to HRT than exercise/osteostrong. I'm thinking of quitting because I'm not gaining strength anymore and that was the only thing I saw that improved.
The investigators you mention in Spain did not appear to register their protocol for transparency which is very atypical. We cannot assess their methods or funding sources. Until there is a published trial to review, I personally would not make any inferences from it.
I am sorry you thought our video was weird. I am a little weird so maybe that is why. Your interpretation of the study re comparative efficacy is not accurate. We mention safety because it is something patients ask about all the time, including the safety of running. We have published this in a nationwide patient survey, if you would like more info you can search for that. I have also discussed the safety of trail running in a twitter thread! If you would like to pay for Osteostrong despite the limited evidence it is your right to do so. We just want people to have a clear understanding of the existing research.
The KI-GIH-OsteoStrong (OS) study results will be very interesting. I assume my data were thrown out because already in the first session, I had surpassed my triggers (OS targets) for all four machines. Besides the weekly OS session, the OS technician told me to continue with my regular daily regimen (I lead these sessions every week: 5 water aerobics, 2 yoga, 1 circuit training, and 1 ChiBall) plus weight training at my gym, bungy pump walking, and daily dog walks. In addition, during each OS session, I tried 3 times (did 3 sets) on each machine although I was told by a substitute technician that most people in his studio did only one set. And I did not sit on the PEMF mat in the OS studio reception area. IMHO, sitting on a PEMF mat once a week for 9 months probably had an effect on the bones of some study participants. My DEXA values and pretest results did not change after 9 months.
This is an abstract presented at a conference. There is no way to verify the quality of the study or evaluate the methods as they are not published in a peer-reviewed journal and the did not register the trial in any clinical trials registries that we searched. All scientific journals require trial protocols to be registered prior to beginning recruitment for transparency. The company was an industry sponsor at the conference the data were presented at, which we speculate might be considered by some as a conflict of interest. Without more information, this does not change our lab's stance on Osteostrong.
@@boneslab Thanks for clarifying. Hopefully the full study publication will follow soon. There is no doubt that we should always strive for the highest level of scientific rigor. However, I also recognize that this may take time and money. In the interim dismissing data pointing to statistically significant improvements simply because even better data isn’t yet available seems inappropriate. Especially if we consider how widespread and debilitating osteoporosis is, it is wise to empower the individuals affected to adopt a variety of safe practices to increase bone density leveraging all modalities that are supported by a preponderance of scientifically collected data. IMHO pointing to a lack of the highest standard of data and dismissing a modality which has helped thousands to reverse osteoporosis naturally on the account of being a “$$$ making business” does a disservice to low bone density patients.
Would you please be able to point me to a peer reviewed study that details the effectiveness of weight bearing exercise and specifies exact loading and movements while demonstrating it is a a safer approach with lower injury rate?
@@arugge When a health care provider makes a recommendation for treatment, they need to consider the efficacy of that treatment, the quality of the research supporting (or refuting) the efficacy, as well as the cost of treatment, access, equity etc. In this case, you would be asking a patient to shell out money and time to get the treatment, on the basis of a vague abstract for a study where the investigators did not publish or register their protocol. The abstract also does not provide information on whether the investigators received support from the company to lead the trial. A published paper would require the investigators to disclose that information. The only trial that DOES exist does not demonstrate superiority of this treatment. There are no published randomized controlled trials demonstrating efficacy for this treatment. However, given that the company has opened up Osteostrong clinics all over the world, patients have the option of choosing to spend their money and time on a treatment where there are no published randomized controlled trials showing it is effective and safe, if they want to.
No, it wasn't. We reviewed every clinical trial ever published on exercise and bone in people with low bone mass, and published 7 systematic reviews on this topic. You can find them if you Pubmed search Giangregorio, they are among the ~200 scientific papers our team has published on osteoporosis.
Right😂Why are criticizing different methods? What exactly are you doing to help people? Same ole same ole BS that does nothing. Makes me think Ostostrong maybe on to something.
Knowing the evidence (or lack of it) helps people decide whether or not they want to risk spending their time and money on Osteostrong. Being a troll in the comments definitely does not help anyone. I get emails and calls from all over North America from patients and physicians asking questions about different exercise interventions. It is my job as a researcher to know the evidence, and present an objective viewpoint.
@@boneslabnot enough people care about the scientific method and the scientific viewpoint on various modalities any more. They seem to just want to go on anecdotal experience and flashy ads promising something they have not delivered on. This is a sad state we are in. I value your research and putting it out there for us to evaluate. Thank you.
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There was a study done since this video was made that was presented at a conference recently about Osteostrong. Here are some facts about that study:
- We cannot find a registered protocol. Rules in all medical scientific journals require (i.e., it is mandatory) all clinical trial protocols to be registered in advance of starting recruitment, to make sure that the process is transparent. We have sent a request to the authors about the protocol registration. No response yet.
- Because we cannot find the protocol, we cannot verify or evaluate the methods. We note that the abstract (brief summary) that was published indicates that they did statistical analyses on bone mineral density T-scores, which is not appropriate, in our opinion. There was an imbalance in baseline values and it is not clear if they controlled for that.
- The presentation is being promoted by some affiliated with Osteostrong as a "groundbreaking article" presented to 7000 endocrinologists at a conference. It was a poster presentation. The only thing that gets published is a ~300 word summary. Most poster presentations get accepted when they are submitted. At most conferences, the presenter stands beside their poster and people can choose to come by to ask questions. We feel they are over-stating the significance and audience of the presentation.
- The trial included people on medications. Medications can confound the outcomes.
- The study has not been published in full in a medical journal. If it is not registered, they will have difficulty publishing it.
After reading all the comments, it's clear that the people who are supporting OsteoStrong are not trained in the principles of scientific method. I appreciate your willingness to respond to their claims in a clear and respectful manner.
May I ask you what the boneslab opinion is of Dr. Loren Fishman's yoga method for osteoporsis?
@@seaspotz The studies done on Dr Fishman’s program were done by Dr Fishman and the risk of bias is high. There are multiple methodological issues that prevent any meaningful conclusions. We did a systematic review of studies of yoga in people with low bone mass. There are hardly any and those that exist are not good. There are studies in older adults that suggest it may improve physical functioning and balance. No studies on falls though there is one ongoing in Australia right now. I would say that if your goal is to improve function and balance then yoga might be effective. But there is no evidence that it increases bone mineral density or prevents falls at present.
I would love to invite you to one of the OsteoStrong Centers so you can first hand see the results with member's DEXA Scans. It is easy to disprove a company that is up against Big PHARMA, but it is not so easy to actually go into the location and see the bone density scans first hand. OsteoStrong is very effective and I hope one day they will have the "scientific proof" for those who don't understand simple science and Wolf's Law.
Published or not. If it works, you can be sure word will spread faster than if published. 😂
@@seaspotz yoga cant increase bone density. Osteostrong can, plain and simple. Google Wolff's law.
My family had a positive experience doing OsteoStrong and I will forever be grateful to a friend who recommended to me. A few things do come into play here that weren't mentioned, did the participants have any underlying conditions? Are they taking medication? Some people who are elderly are so deconditioned and can't lift weights enough to stimulate any bone growth. So OsteoStrong is definitely helpful when it comes to those cases. A few of my family members go to OsteoStrong, its been over a year and 3 of them have reversed their Osteoporosis. Two of my family members reversed it completely and didn't take any medication ever, and my uncle has stayed the same without any decline in bone density. It's not for everyone that's for sure but worked for the people I know.
It is a myth that older adults, even those who are frail, cannot do strength training. There are many research studies showing that they can do it and can benefit. Anecdotes are not evidence. I find it very hard to believe that someone could reverse osteoporosis in one year, given that the bone remodeling process in one tiny spot on bone takes ~6 months.
Were these people dx with osteoporosis?
I have seen several high quality, healthy athletes, that train for marathons and that are avid CrossFit training athletes that had osteoporosis into their late 60's early 70's, that have since reversed their osteoporosis only after beginning the OsteoStrong program. It is the one thing we all are physically missing, especially as we age. @boneslab
@@calebwade2834 anecdotes are not evidence. Osteostrong affiliated people have lots of anecdotes, from what I have seen. You seem to have a vested interest based on the content on your channel?
I concur you. 😄
I discovered an Osteostrong program about 40 mins drive from my home. I am so excited. I’ll get back to you in about 6 months….
BonES lab does not endorse Osteostrong. We suggest strength and balance training.
Please watch the short film above first.
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@@boneslab can you be more specific? is there a program you do endorse? And do you have anything suitable for people with me/cfs and PEM?
My 83 year ols friend who has been doung Osteostrong for about a year says she can open jars with no trouble now, can carry her own grocery bags, and has lost the flab under her arms. She says she has more energy and is able to enjoy a more activevlife than prior to joining.
I am happy for her. The video is mainly focused on Osteostrong's claims that it can increase bone mineral density, which are not backed by randomized controlled trials. It is important for people to have choices, and to be informed about the evidence related to those choices. Some people might decide the cost is not worth it, and that they can get stronger and fitter from a basic strength training program and healthy diet, which arguably could be cheaper than an Osteostrong membership. Glad your friend is feeling good!
Hey, I agree with your response. But nothing beats trying something feeling better and having mobility. Especially when you're over 75.😊
@@mikkijpedrayes1332 This is not a case of "try it because it can't hurt to try". Osteostrong costs money. People are investing money and time. Thus, for people on a fixed income, spending money on something for which there is little evidence could be harmful. There are anecdotal reports of fractures during Osteostrong, as well as fractures reported in a clinical trial. Our video helps people make informed choices. There is no randomized controlled trial or good evidence that shows that Osteostrong does what is claimed. Just case series done by or funded by the manufacturer. Even the most recent "ground breaking" report was only an abstract from a poster presentation of a trial that is not registered, and does T-tests on T-scores, which is not appropriate.
As a physician, I appreciate your review and hope anyone considering Osteostrong will watch this and talk to their healthcare provider.
Thank you. I was considering giving this a try, but I'll stick with weights and resistance exercises now.
It doesn’t seem to be enough but maybe I’m wrong.
I can testify that I go and I'm feeling much better. I don't know too much about the scientific bone density and mineral gensity. I do what I can with my supplements. But I will tell you after a couple of sessions at Osteo. Strong, I cannot deny that I feel better.
Try OsteoStrong, I live in Florida and started going to OsteoStrong. After a year I had a DEXA scan done and my spine had moved out of Osteoporosis and is now Osteopenia. I take Garden of Life Bone Growth Calcium which has 2 with the 2nd being Strontium which we need. Trust me I was cautious when I joined as I was concerned with throwing my money away but I am not. Yes, free weights are great as long as you are doing them correctly. Walking, dancing, aerobics, NIA classes all help our bones.
I will continue using OsteoStrong. If people are saying the machines caused bone fractures it means the clients weren’t honest about how bad their bones were.
Good luck!
I'm 52 male and have been doing strength training consistently for 30 years. My bone density has dropped 6% in the last 2 years and i have osteoporosis. I cant see how a much older female could get the fast bone density improvements with a few osteostrong exercises once a week.
I am sorry to hear that you have had that experience. And I agree with you. :)
Me neither!!!!
Firstly, you need medical evaluation since that rate of bone loss in a relatively young male is seriously abnormal.
Regarding Osteostrong, it works because the force applied to bones greatly exceeds that produced during usual weight lifting actions, which are limited to the weight that can be moved through the weakest point of the exercise movement.
For bone strengthening, you can modify your exercise to employ much heavier weights by restricting movement to where your muscles can apply highest force. For example, doing partial squats where you only drop about 2-3 inches from standing straight up, allows use of vastly greater weight.
@@marianneoelund2940 Doing partial squats with a load vastly higher than normal will also put a hell of a lot compression force through your discs.
It works
how about investigating osteostrong customers that claim to have increased bone density - there must be a lot of them or why else would they continue going to osteostong? To be definitive, you should really have your own radomized trial showing osteostrong is not effective, and I don't see any mention of such in the video.
The company that is making claims (and money on said claims) that they can reverse osteoporosis should be the ones to ensure they have a trial to back up their claims.
And besides, have you not heard of the placebo effect? If people want to see something badly enough, they will fully believe it's happening and avoid genuine tests to confirm or deny their observations.
@@seaspotz Not true, I have seen countless OsteoStrong members show Bone density scans from before and after going and the results are always nothing short of amazing. Go into a center and talk to some members and they will show you their scans first hand.
@@seaspotz thankfully you don’t speak for everyone.
Thanks for the great video review. Do you have a link to the reference comparing osteostrong to standard strength program? I could not find it on pubmed.
Thanks!
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32289518/
The creators of Osteostrong had different variations of their devices, the one used in the trial was one of them. They provided the devices to the scientist leading the trial.
Great video. Have you done any research into rebounding for bone strength?
I am not aware of any studies that exist on rebounding and bone health and I have not lead studies on it. I don't see any benefit to doing it over the types of exercise that are recommended in guidelines e.g., balance, functional, strength training. I would be concerned that a loss of balance on the rebounder could increase fracture risk.
Thank you for the overview Boneslab. I have been considering trying Osteostrong despite the lack of robust trials showing any benefit - as there also did not appear to be any evidence of harm. I was concerned to hear of the study you mention in your video that showed spinal fractures in 5 Osteostrong participants vs 0 in the control group. I can’t find that study, are you able to provide a link so I can evaluate?
Many thanks
sure - I think we connected via messenger - send me an email and I will send it.
You might find this of interest: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/11/2021/2021-Ohio-1694.pdf
Thank you so much for this excellent summary and your science-based opinions, Dr Lora Giangregorio!
You are welcome!
Again. I feel great and I am able to do more than I could before. And I've gone to Osteo-strong, less than 2 months.
Some new information following my introductory visit to an OsteoStrong center:
The Spectrum exercise machines are equipped with computers which display and record the force produced by the patient during their effort. However, I discovered that the calibration of the force measurement is so far off, that it is misguiding and misleading the users. For example, my measurement on one leg press machine showed that an actual force of 270 lb applied to the machine resulted in a reading of 474 lb on the computer display. That is a 75% exaggeration, and this is not merely a small calibration error; it is a gross scale factor miss. Something is entirely wrong in the software.
Why is this important? The claim is that for femur bone density to improve, there must be a force of at least 4.2 times body weight achieved on the leg press machine. But because of the calibration problem, it is necessary to make the machine read at least 7.4 times body weight. Any users achieving forces in the 4.3 to 7.3 times body weight range, will not be in therapeutic range for their femurs, but they will not be aware of this issue.
I may attempt to visit other OsteoStrong centers to see if their machines are similarly miscalibrated. I am also attempting to contact someone at OsteoStrong to discuss this finding.
not to mention when they adjust the machine (which it often resets to the wrong place) a slight change grossly changes how much force it reads. And every time they update the software those numbers change. The numbers are all bs as far as I can tell.
"my measurement on one leg press machine showed that an actual force of 270 lb applied to the machine" - how execyly did you measure the "actual force applied"?
@@eugin5134 Digital scale placed under my feet. How else?
@@marianneoelund2940 What digital scale is designed to work in vertical position? Did you duct tape it to the plate? :)
@eugin5134 Digital scales will work in any position, provided they are resting against a solid, flat surface. Once the scale is placed into position and before any force is applied to the weighing platform, the tare feature is used to zero the reading.
NIH did a study with a control group
NIH doesn't usually do studies, they fund them. We have done an extensive search of medical literature and have not found a published randomized trial with a bone mineral density outcome. We updated our search recently. There was apparently one done in Greece but they have not fully published the results nor registered the protocol. There was also one presented at a conference recently but there were issues with the way they did the analysis which made interpretation impossible. If you found a study that we have missed, please share.
My problem with them is that you are not supervised by a professional PT. They are just technicians. That was the deciding factor for me not to join. I would never pay the fees that are asking without professional training. I went for a trial and it was quite evident.
Thanks for this input!
Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information!
Why is it when I go click the link to your website it's an advertisement for Jugo Juice??
I am not sure what link you are talking about. UA-cam often includes advertisements on all of their videos - maybe that is what you are seeing? The link to my professional website is here: uwaterloo.ca/kinesiology-health-sciences/profiles/lora-giangregorio
The link to our BonES lab Facebook page is here: facebook.com/UWBonESLab
Thank you so much for creating and sharing this fabulous video summarizing the research!
There are some good observations but the emphasis on the "controlled group" is flawed. It's obvious and commonly accepted that our bone density naturally declines over time so the need to have a controlled group is not high. So if a particular program can improve bone density then not having a controlled group shouldn't be the reason to discredit the efficacy. There is also an ethical aspect of having a controlled group. Will you knowingly ask an osteoporotic group of people to not do exercises?
The negative commentary on "OsteoStrong is a "for profit" company is very misguided and showed a bias of the reviewer. Gyms, pharmaceutical companies, Physio, personal trainers etc are mostly for profit and there is nothing wrong about providing services to the community for a fee.
On safety, any physical modality will have a certain degree of risk and people hurt themselves in the gym every day of the week...so the claim that the program is safe should be taken in context...nothing will guarantee that there is no risk of injury even for the strength training that you recommended.
Anyone can pick a study to prove or disprove anything these days so everyone needs to use their own judgement and not discount the efficacy of certain treatments because there is one study that didn't support the conclusion of the previous studies.
If the reviewer is genuinely interested in providing an objective review, at least, they should briefly participate in OsteoStrong to have a hands-on experience.
Lastly, if the reviewer is genuinely interested in reviewing OsteoStrong, they should do some more background reading to know that OsteoStong machines are the newer version of BioDensity machines which have been around for many years and there are many more studies on the efficacy of BioDensity machines that demonstrated the efficacy in improving bone density.
1. The "for profit" nature of a company and it's claims is relevant when the claims come from "science" published by a creator, owner, or person who works for the company, and stands to benefit. For example, many older industry funded trials of glucosamine supplements tended to show a benefit whereas non-industry funded ones did not.
2. Bone mineral density scans do not always report decreases with age. Lumbar spine bone mineral density can appear to increase with age on scans because of artifact due to arthritis in the spine, or because of aortic calcification - both are extremely common. Some people may not experience increases in bone mineral density with exercise. So, yes, to confirm if something works, you do need a randomized trial with a control group, or a very large, very high quality alternative study design (e.g., large observational study with dose response data and that controls for confounders and other sources of bias), neither of which exist for Osteostrong.
3. Researchers need to report data from ALL participants, not just the ones where bone mineral density increases on scans. It can be easy to show benefits by removing data from people who don't respond the way you expect them to, and only reporting data from those that show "benefits". And some people whose scans show "benefits" might actually just be methodologic error or artifact.
4. It is ethical to do exercise studies with control groups. You can also compare Osteostrong to other treatments, which has been done, by an independent group of investigators, and they did not report the same benefits reported in the other studies that Osteostrong uses in their claims.
5. Nothing can be guaranteed to be safe - true. But for patients to make decisions they need some estimate of how much benefit there is relative to how much risk. One should not claim something is safe without data to back it up on HOW safe it is. The whole "but millions of people use it" or anecdotal evidence tells you nothing about the people who stopped using it and never said anything.
6. "Anyone can pick a study..." - We didn't pick one study. We read ALL of them. Our team did seven systematic reviews of ALL existing trials on exercise for osteoporosis, and published the reviews (do a Pubmed search for Giangregorio and systematic review if you want receipts). We could not find even one study to support the claims made.
7. How in the heck is having one hands-on experience going to help a scientist or patient know if Osteostrong is effective for improving bone mineral density? That makes no sense.
8. We reviewed all the BioDensity science too. There are no randomized controlled trials of biodensity looking at bone mineral density of the spine and hip.
9. What is your expertise in clinical trials, or bone physiology, Woodie? Do you work for Osteostrong?
@@boneslab Thanks for your reply. Your lab is focusing on a noble cause by working on strength and balance which is important in preventing fracture risk. I and my mum benefitted from OsteoStrong program and have seen many 'gurus' trying to talk it down just because they don't believe improving bone density naturally is possible. I just think of how many people who could have benefitted from the program that have been turned off by this VDO. I hope you will continue to review upcoming research on osteogenic loading and if possible update this VDO if new evidence emerges. Thank you.
@@wutti88 I will most definitely review any studies that emerge. In the interim it is important that patients know the truth about the evidence, and their website is very misleading. And there are reports of fractures in people who have received Osteostrong, although hard to confirm cause and effect with the low numbers.
@@boneslab The paper you cited pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32289518/ has a control.
Whereas most medical studies certainly justify randomization and a control group, in this case, there is an objective measurement available to quantify results, so all that is required, is a well defined test plan and procedure that is consistently applied to every test subject. We all know that bone density will decrease over time in adults; any increase represents confirmation of the exercise program benefits.
But I am greatly concerned about the high incidence of spine fractures, which indicates that the exercise program has not been designed for safety.
it is not correct to say that bone mineral density will always decrease with age. spine bone mineral density can appear to increase over time with age because of arthritis, degenerative changes, and aortic calcification - they create artifacts that result in artificial increases on BMD and make it look like BMD is increasing. there are large, population-based studies that report that BMD measured at the spine will increase over time, on average, because of these artifact errors. bone mineral density scans are also very susceptible to measurement error in positioning and analysis. a control group is required if you are going to make claims that you can reverse osteoporosis or increase BMD by up to 14%.
I am not surprised by your findings since I noted Tony Robbins connected to the company. Research and studies with large populations speak volume! Well done!
I do not know why this group would take it upon themselves to try to discredit OsteoStrong, I wonder what their real motivation is? I personally have seen exceptional bone density improvements and I have seen many others at the studio with DEXA confirmed improvements. Not to mention that I am way stronger and have fantastic balance. I have actually taken two falls in the last year with no fractures or injuries, except perhaps a bit of embarrassment. Do not be afraid to try this for yourself. Oh and there is a great study that has come out of Greece the results of which were presented at the ENDO 2023 conference which clearly shows results with control groups led by one of the top endocrinologists in the world.
The goal is not to discredit but to present the facts. The study you mention from Greece did not publish their protocol and it was an abstract presented at a conference that Osteostrong sponsored. When the study is complete and published I’d be happy to review it. Based on the data we have seen from the abstract and elsewhere, it may not be as groundbreaking as they claim. You must be a huge fan given the Osteostrong playlist on your channel. How did you learn about the reputation of the scientists leading the unpublished study?
I'll tell you why, because they are in the pockets with the Pharmaceutical industry. Osteostrong scares them because it's a genuine natural remedy to an issue they are only over complicating.
Let's agree to disagree. Your claims are not supported either. Until you complete a clinical trial and have confirmatory results, you shouldn't be stating your opinion either. As a scientist, you should know this. Osteosteong studies may not have been designed to your liking, but there are millions of people who have been going to the centers and who have improved not just their bone but overall health. Perhaps it would be a better study to connect with the physicians who are treating these people as they can confirm their results.
There is no agree to disagree. The claims that Osteostrong makes are not supported by randomized controlled trials. That is a fact. My claims on exercise are in fact supported, not only by clinical trials, but by meta-analyses, and by national osteoporosis guidelines on exercise that will be released this year (I am an author and I led the exercise guidelines). So, I can state my opinion because I have the receipts. There are 81 clinical trials supporting the claim that exercise reduces falls, 39 that supports the claim that balance and functional training reduces falls...I can go on, but here is the Cochrane review on the topic (www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD012424.pub2/full), and here are the systematic reviews our team did on osteoporosis and impact exercise (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33914282/), resistance training (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33367736/), walking (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33571958/), Pilates (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35080990/), and yoga (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34914565/), among others. There are NO randomized controlled trials of Osteostrong vs control. There is one clinical trial of Osteostrong vs exercise, and it shows no superiority, and there were fractures in the Osteostrong group.
Agree to disagree is the usual "argument" from people who don't understand scientific evidence gathering and analysis but don't care anyways because they simply prefer to believe whatever they wish to be true. Any claim to know the health outcomes of "millions of people" is a sure sign of delusion (or advertising). We should be grateful for scientists at the BonES Lab who can help debunk health scams for those who really want to understand.
Thank you for your kind words, Shannon!
If there are truly millions of people who have benefited from their program by having increased bone density on testing plus fewer fractures then 1) Osteostrong has made a lot of money and 2) they should be able to invest in and publish research that shows more than 5 people’s DEXA scan results. That is why I hold them
suspect.
You made the claim so it’s up to you to show us the numbers.
Apparently you didn’t read the Liftmore Study. Firstly it was Biodensity equipment, whereas OsteoStrong uses Spectrum. And the fractures did not happen on the Biodensity equipment, but in the Physiotherapists exercise group.
Great summary. That said, and I have noticed that in ads and/or other studies where up to 4 women were represented, always one is wearing the hijab. Here it's one at of 3 at first, and at around minute 4, one out of two. This creeping up of veiled women, everywhere, is very disturbing. Siding with Iranian women opposing the oppression of head/face/body covering.
Thank you for watching! I am going to opt out of engaging in the straw man argument you propose.
This was probably one of the most weird videos I've seen there are studies for example a recent one in Spain that showed it is working . here in Sweden another study is on going or actually it is finished now and it will be released this year it is done by the Karolinska institute in Stockholm
I have seen really good improvements for myself. And we know that loading on the skeleton thus improve and prevent bone minerality loss .
This video said there was one study not showing that that this method was better then weight bearing exercise . Actually I don't think they ever claimed that but the study according to the video showed no difference that means it is as good as weight bearing exercise. And for my part and many others I would never have been able to do that other exercise
They refer to this as robotic machines that is weird it is like gym machines but they measured the load it is not robots.
There is no study showing it is safe ? Kind of weird also do you need a study showing exercise to be safe. ? There is no study showing running being safe so you should not run ? Seriously this video was just all too weird .
For many people like me who cannot do other exercise this was phenomenal , and you also save so much time the only downside was that I had to pay for it by myself but after this study in Sweden is published hopefully this will be a part of the healthcare insurance system .
really? after three years, at best my rate of bone loss has slowed. Which is probably owing more to HRT than exercise/osteostrong. I'm thinking of quitting because I'm not gaining strength anymore and that was the only thing I saw that improved.
The investigators you mention in Spain did not appear to register their protocol for transparency which is very atypical. We cannot assess their methods or funding sources. Until there is a published trial to review, I personally would not make any inferences from it.
I am sorry you thought our video was weird. I am a little weird so maybe that is why. Your interpretation of the study re comparative efficacy is not accurate. We mention safety because it is something patients ask about all the time, including the safety of running. We have published this in a nationwide patient survey, if you would like more info you can search for that. I have also discussed the safety of trail running in a twitter thread! If you would like to pay for Osteostrong despite the limited evidence it is your right to do so. We just want people to have a clear understanding of the existing research.
The KI-GIH-OsteoStrong (OS) study results will be very interesting. I assume my data were thrown out because already in the first session, I had surpassed my triggers (OS targets) for all four machines. Besides the weekly OS session, the OS technician told me to continue with my regular daily regimen (I lead these sessions every week: 5 water aerobics, 2 yoga, 1 circuit training, and 1 ChiBall) plus weight training at my gym, bungy pump walking, and daily dog walks. In addition, during each OS session, I tried 3 times (did 3 sets) on each machine although I was told by a substitute technician that most people in his studio did only one set. And I did not sit on the PEMF mat in the OS studio reception area. IMHO, sitting on a PEMF mat once a week for 9 months probably had an effect on the bones of some study participants. My DEXA values and pretest results did not change after 9 months.
Very informative video! I love the emphasis and explanation on basic scientific research method.
Thank you for this eye opening review. Most helpful 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
Here is a new study on the effectiveness of Osteostrong using a control group. ua-cam.com/video/Y5_UFXhY32M/v-deo.html
This is an abstract presented at a conference. There is no way to verify the quality of the study or evaluate the methods as they are not published in a peer-reviewed journal and the did not register the trial in any clinical trials registries that we searched. All scientific journals require trial protocols to be registered prior to beginning recruitment for transparency. The company was an industry sponsor at the conference the data were presented at, which we speculate might be considered by some as a conflict of interest. Without more information, this does not change our lab's stance on Osteostrong.
@@boneslab Thanks for clarifying. Hopefully the full study publication will follow soon.
There is no doubt that we should always strive for the highest level of scientific rigor.
However, I also recognize that this may take time and money. In the interim dismissing data pointing to statistically significant improvements simply because even better data isn’t yet available seems inappropriate. Especially if we consider how widespread and debilitating osteoporosis is, it is wise to empower the individuals affected to adopt a variety of safe practices to increase bone density leveraging all modalities that are supported by a preponderance of scientifically collected data. IMHO pointing to a lack of the highest standard of data and dismissing a modality which has helped thousands to reverse osteoporosis naturally on the account of being a “$$$ making business” does a disservice to low bone density patients.
Would you please be able to point me to a peer reviewed study that details the effectiveness of weight bearing exercise and specifies exact loading and movements while demonstrating it is a a safer approach with lower injury rate?
@@arugge When a health care provider makes a recommendation for treatment, they need to consider the efficacy of that treatment, the quality of the research supporting (or refuting) the efficacy, as well as the cost of treatment, access, equity etc. In this case, you would be asking a patient to shell out money and time to get the treatment, on the basis of a vague abstract for a study where the investigators did not publish or register their protocol. The abstract also does not provide information on whether the investigators received support from the company to lead the trial. A published paper would require the investigators to disclose that information. The only trial that DOES exist does not demonstrate superiority of this treatment. There are no published randomized controlled trials demonstrating efficacy for this treatment. However, given that the company has opened up Osteostrong clinics all over the world, patients have the option of choosing to spend their money and time on a treatment where there are no published randomized controlled trials showing it is effective and safe, if they want to.
@@arugge Resistance and impact training superior to a version of osteostrong tech, and fewer fractures: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32176813/
Fantastic video!!!
Your investigation was very limited
No, it wasn't. We reviewed every clinical trial ever published on exercise and bone in people with low bone mass, and published 7 systematic reviews on this topic. You can find them if you Pubmed search Giangregorio, they are among the ~200 scientific papers our team has published on osteoporosis.
Right😂Why are criticizing different methods? What exactly are you doing to help people? Same ole same ole BS that does nothing. Makes me think Ostostrong maybe on to something.
Knowing the evidence (or lack of it) helps people decide whether or not they want to risk spending their time and money on Osteostrong. Being a troll in the comments definitely does not help anyone.
I get emails and calls from all over North America from patients and physicians asking questions about different exercise interventions. It is my job as a researcher to know the evidence, and present an objective viewpoint.
@@boneslabnot enough people care about the scientific method and the scientific viewpoint on various modalities any more. They seem to just want to go on anecdotal experience and flashy ads promising something they have not delivered on. This is a sad state we are in. I value your research and putting it out there for us to evaluate. Thank you.
@@irenecohen8708 Thank you so much for your kind words!
Because of jealousy and loss of profit for Big pharmaceutical company. This is Fake News