This Is NOT a Forte: Meet the All-New 2025 Kia K4!

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 132

  • @Denistone
    @Denistone 5 місяців тому +45

    At this stage, I appreciate anything that's not a crossover.

    • @kellyaustin7487
      @kellyaustin7487 4 місяці тому

      Damn near looks like one. Part car part SUV.

  • @jr7055
    @jr7055 5 місяців тому +37

    Looks amazing imo. That hatch will be a hit from what I see. Well done KIA!

  • @laserwizard2
    @laserwizard2 5 місяців тому +30

    I switched from Ford after nearly 40 years of ownership since they gave up (cowards) building affordable products and cars. I own a 2016 Hyundai that has given me 77k trouble free miles and I don't regret the purchase. Best car I've ever owned and so roomy, quiet, and fuel efficient.

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому +3

      Korean vehicles are definitely better than domestic's.

    • @jbshp2011
      @jbshp2011 4 місяці тому

      @@davidjymliar liar pants you’re pants are already on fire😂😂😂😂

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 4 місяці тому

      @@jbshp2011 right

  • @alexlarson2466
    @alexlarson2466 5 місяців тому +18

    It's literally the length of a BMW E34 sedan- crazy how big "compact" cars are these days

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. Not sure if there is a standard for the different size classes of vehicles.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 5 місяців тому

      It's also crazy how expensive the cheapest offerings are getting.

  • @PaulStevens-se9lc
    @PaulStevens-se9lc 5 місяців тому +9

    not mad at it... i like it. I do think it takes styling queues from the Polestar/Volvo cars

  • @publicvoice2360
    @publicvoice2360 5 місяців тому +5

    The only thing I do not like about K4 and K5 that they should have made the boot opening like hatch back, if Skoda Octavia and Superb can do than why not Kia. Com'on guys that's the more practical and your rear looks more like a fastback!

  • @tonyc7435
    @tonyc7435 Місяць тому +1

    Well done Kia! So glad some makers are keeping small, affordable sedans around.

  • @thumperjdm
    @thumperjdm 5 місяців тому +5

    Great-looking car. The lighting design is fantastic.

  • @jonathanrodriguez6376
    @jonathanrodriguez6376 5 місяців тому +2

    The KIA K4 is amazing overall design and its look. And wonder when will the KIA K3 be in US soon?

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому

      Kia better have something smaller than the K4

  • @jrocxzs
    @jrocxzs 5 місяців тому +13

    I wish this was a hatchback. They’d save money by having one design and capture market share by offering the most space in the class.

    • @jadadpe3873
      @jadadpe3873 5 місяців тому +1

      @@hunterrrdrives Why would you want a sedan hatch? what even is a sedan hatch

    • @jtr990
      @jtr990 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@jadadpe3873If you're thinking sedan hatch, you mean a "liftback" or a "notchback."

    • @jadadpe3873
      @jadadpe3873 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jtr990 oh like the audi a7?

    • @jtr990
      @jtr990 5 місяців тому

      @@jadadpe3873 That's one of them.

    • @jtr990
      @jtr990 5 місяців тому

      @@jadadpe3873 Yes, that's one of the notchbacks/liftbacks.

  • @martinmarinelarena8508
    @martinmarinelarena8508 5 місяців тому +5

    This is gonna make a real nice rental car

    • @jyay4397
      @jyay4397 5 місяців тому

      Will look hot you getting penitrated by me back seat

  • @MichaelKlinePhotoVideo
    @MichaelKlinePhotoVideo 4 місяці тому

    I just bought a 2024 GT-Line 2 months ago (Feburary 2024). And it's an awesome car. Especially coming from a Ford Fusion. So I have the last model year for the "Forte". The 2025 K4 is a big design change and it looks really cool. I'll definitely will want to check the new K4 GT-Line when it comes out.

  • @nhp5067
    @nhp5067 2 місяці тому +1

    Kinda glad I went t ahead and got a forte gt then. 190hp is a bit disappointing

  • @user-mr1ku5iz8l
    @user-mr1ku5iz8l 5 місяців тому +1

    When it comes to the dealer lots how much higher will the wheel well be above the tires? Seems as though they always lower the cars for the auto shows.

  • @merchseller
    @merchseller Місяць тому

    I like it! Only thing it needs are twin tip pipes.

  • @Will-zq6tz
    @Will-zq6tz 5 місяців тому +2

    The front lights are better than the K5 for my taste.

    • @mikul2646
      @mikul2646 5 місяців тому

      Better than the 2025 model for sure. I think the 2021-2024 headlights on the K5 are more iconic and streamlined. The new ones just look messier. I'm massively excited for the K4 since it ticks every box I need for a new car.

  • @SPeeSimon
    @SPeeSimon 4 місяці тому

    Looks like there is no headroom for the passengers in the back. It looks nice, but has too much drawbacks for customers in the west (eu, usa).

  • @MOBGaming4
    @MOBGaming4 5 місяців тому +2

    Great looking car!

  • @dougmanck4149
    @dougmanck4149 5 місяців тому

    Love it. Hope you can get the turbo without having to go to the top trim.

  • @zzzzzzxxxxxxxxx
    @zzzzzzxxxxxxxxx 5 місяців тому +1

    for being a compact sedan it looks as big as the k5? i have a 2023 forte and it seems smaller than this for sure. the back of it is pretty blah and i don’t love the back seat door handle designs

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому +2

      This K4 is as big as a Kia Optima from a decade ago !!!

  • @mathewscott9453
    @mathewscott9453 5 місяців тому +1

    Off centre logo on the steering wheel looks pimp.

  • @digitalkov
    @digitalkov 5 місяців тому +1

    Hyundai Kia should stop placing headlight/taillight so far down in the corner of bumpers!
    These are terrible positions to place parts that can cost several hundreds. Even a light bumper scrap can result in stupid high repair bill.

  • @levicharles996
    @levicharles996 5 місяців тому +1

    Hatchback with a manual would be the ticket for me. But that transmission is obsolete unfortunately

  • @Travisj9935
    @Travisj9935 5 місяців тому +6

    They can't even keep cars on lots now! Our local kia lot is always empty

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому

      Supply issues ...

    • @HD_Kerino
      @HD_Kerino 5 місяців тому +6

      @@davidjymno, no it’s not. I sale the damn cars, we had sold 350 of the damn things one month and on average we sale 290. Our lot stays empty.

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому

      @@HD_Kerino crazy people

    • @webcomment8895
      @webcomment8895 5 місяців тому

      @@HD_KerinoThe lots stay empty because of low volume production whether that’s because of supply chain issues with parts suppliers or production capacity or a conscious choice to limit production, the end result is the same.
      It’s not as if any Kia model is a top seller in volume compared the the highest volume vehicles in their classes.
      Telluride has been popular and in short supply from the first year they released it, yet they don’t significantly increase production. Sounds like a choice.
      Most other Kia models are not that popular.

    • @webcomment8895
      @webcomment8895 5 місяців тому +1

      There was also a scandal in Canada last year about Kia purposely holding back vehicles from being delivered to dealers.

  • @kevinvillanueva137
    @kevinvillanueva137 5 місяців тому +13

    Kia K4 is beautiful! K4 blows the corolla and civic out of the water. There is no comparison and anyone would be making a mistake not going for the K4. Kia made history with this car. They saved the compact sedan. Compacts are the best bang for you buck. The standard is now set for compacts and all cars. Well done Kia!

    • @obayedh
      @obayedh 5 місяців тому +3

      Well, nice design, however, Kia has to work on reliability ... :)

    •  5 місяців тому +1

      GDI engine in k4 will die before the honda or corolla go in for their last free service

    • @darthdarthbinkss
      @darthdarthbinkss 5 місяців тому

      @Only one of the engines in the K4 has GDI

    • @thepkism
      @thepkism 5 місяців тому +1

      It’s horrible lol

  • @mempto
    @mempto 5 місяців тому +1

    Really interesting design. Will be polarizing. But very interesting for sure.

  • @laserwizard2
    @laserwizard2 5 місяців тому +1

    K designation is what they've used in Korea for years. Now they are normalizing this across the world.

  • @jimlivingston8437
    @jimlivingston8437 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for showing and informing us on this car. I think i will stick with my VW Golf Sportwagen. This car to me looks cheap inside. Thanks again for the tour.

  • @LetMeCook86
    @LetMeCook86 5 місяців тому +5

    Roman you’re so cheap! Sending Andre to the fricking NY auto show without a cameraman! AlexOnAutos, Redline Reviews, Raiti’s, all brought a camera person. Well done Andre, sorry your boss sux!

    • @SunnynPhilly
      @SunnynPhilly 5 місяців тому

      It would be fun if Andre had a Russian speaking cameraman he could direct in Russian then switch back to English for the camera.

    • @Axp258
      @Axp258 5 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😁

  • @turquoise8669
    @turquoise8669 5 місяців тому

    Mention the trunk compare to the forte is 0.7 less from 15.3 to 14.6 cargo space, because Kia increases the rear leg up to 38 inches.

  • @ianpolo5673
    @ianpolo5673 5 місяців тому +2

    The rear looks ungainly. Front and rear look complex. Prefer the current K3 with a clean design.

  • @daytona3927
    @daytona3927 4 місяці тому

    I like it, hope they make a high performance version.

  • @MicahB98
    @MicahB98 5 місяців тому

    Yah I agree if they brought out the hatchback version, everyone would be freaking out even more

  • @michellevega6971
    @michellevega6971 5 місяців тому +1

    Looks like a model 3 and a polestar 3 had a love child

    • @HD_Kerino
      @HD_Kerino 5 місяців тому

      That looks nothing like a model 3, I can see the polestar 3 tho

  • @stevenpeluso7670
    @stevenpeluso7670 5 місяців тому

    I think the car is stunning and impressive, nothing like the old Forte..its a completely new car, all around.

  • @Hiluxtaco
    @Hiluxtaco 5 місяців тому +6

    KIA really needs to "Double Down" on making their powertrains more reliable...

    • @miaminights86
      @miaminights86 5 місяців тому

      Why would you say it’s not do you own one?

    • @diamondknight4815
      @diamondknight4815 5 місяців тому

      ​@miaminights86 I did. Brand new exact. Exhaust was hanging down after 5k miles. The front end was rattling when idling. As for the engine? Mazda skyactive Is more reliable

  • @samyoon3218
    @samyoon3218 5 місяців тому

    Expecting Tasman as well!

  • @omidnamin9004
    @omidnamin9004 5 місяців тому

    we've entered an era where an economy car has the same interior as a luxury car. since everyone is just doing the dual screens for gauges and infotainment.

  • @jc_alpha
    @jc_alpha 5 місяців тому

    1:13 “Let me remove the fisheye effect”
    Please never add it back. Viewers hate that effect because, even though more is visible at once, that level of distortion makes it very difficult to appreciate how objects truly look like.

  • @Marty210268
    @Marty210268 4 місяці тому

    I really do not like concealed rear door handles. It is such a long car with an obvious rear shut line for the rear door! With such a 'chunky' front door handle it looks so obvious that something is missing!!! It does not look symmetrical or cohesive IMO.

  • @kevinvillanueva137
    @kevinvillanueva137 5 місяців тому +2

    5:04 sofyan from redline reviews waiting to show it too lol

  • @ColJonSquall1
    @ColJonSquall1 5 місяців тому +1

    I like some elements of it, but together as a whole, its just meh for a design (especially exterior). It feels like they're trying to use parts from the Hyundai side, but also want to be different and I don't think its working, lol.

  • @dtay8913
    @dtay8913 5 місяців тому +6

    They went from taking inspiration from Cadillac wjth the telluride, to straight up stealing their design language with this front end.

    • @joec.5009
      @joec.5009 5 місяців тому

      😂

    • @adrianhosein7698
      @adrianhosein7698 5 місяців тому

      Are you an idiot? Lol this does not look like a Cadillac, Cadillac isn't the owner of vertical lines 👀🤣

    • @diamondknight4815
      @diamondknight4815 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. That's kia for you. Even the 2021 kia forte I had I noticed the daytime running lights was taken from Porsche.

    • @joec.5009
      @joec.5009 5 місяців тому

      i see a very unique design language here. copy is just a lazy assessment. really. it ain't 2004. it's 2024. if you know design, hyundai/kia/genesis have been the global design leader. you would know, if you know the design. and it's the other way around. other brands have been copying koreans. update yourself.

    • @dtay8913
      @dtay8913 5 місяців тому +2

      @joec.5009 Apparently you don't know what you're talking about. Cadillac has been using their vertical headlight design since the cts in 2002/2003, long before Hyundai/Kia.
      Their chief designer came from BMW so their interiors are heavily inspired by them(not unique) the exterior design of kia is heavily inspired by Cadillac. The most unique design they have at the moment is the headlights fading into the grille.

  • @rjbiker66
    @rjbiker66 3 місяці тому

    So its a hyundai elantra underneath

  • @rayjee1756
    @rayjee1756 5 місяців тому

    i didn't like the old forte because it looked like a 2017 civic but without the tried and true reliability factor of one. This new look actually might convince be to give Kia a chance with their new engines and look past that whole law suit fiasco.

  • @ZizouTheKing22
    @ZizouTheKing22 5 місяців тому +1

    current Forte GT looks way more original with the red grill/splitter and headlight design... K4 looks like every other generic EV being made today, no thanks...

  • @FM-gv7sb
    @FM-gv7sb 5 місяців тому

    Please let it be available with a manual transmission option!

  • @Soul_Flow_
    @Soul_Flow_ 5 місяців тому

    very nice

  • @magellanicspaceclouds
    @magellanicspaceclouds 5 місяців тому

    I'm more excited for the hatchback. I hope they offer a manual.

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому +1

      Hatchback rules !

  • @tarfeef101
    @tarfeef101 5 місяців тому

    Looks pretty great. Wish it was electric too, I would love something small, efficient, and cheap to drive with lots of real buttons, a real shifter, and IMO good looks too.

  • @tonyb3350
    @tonyb3350 5 місяців тому

    Give it the 2.0 turbo

  • @bogart9010
    @bogart9010 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm sorry but this car is so ugly. Not that the Forte was anything to look at either.
    Also I'm all for the infotainment screen, but when you make it one large screen, if it breaks, there go any controls and visibility. At least separate them.

  • @kellyaustin7487
    @kellyaustin7487 4 місяці тому

    It's a Car-UV

  • @roccodifranco7866
    @roccodifranco7866 5 місяців тому +2

    No GT , NO DCT ,no exhaust tips , looks electric NO THANKS

    • @edaddyx2hansonjr436
      @edaddyx2hansonjr436 5 місяців тому +1

      Buy a GT K5 and get all of that then. Relax

    • @roccodifranco7866
      @roccodifranco7866 5 місяців тому +1

      @@edaddyx2hansonjr436 so I own a 2023 forte GT that costs $26,000 and you think i should relax and pay $32,000 for a K5 GT get real now the K5 GT line doesn’t have a turbo motor, which buy the way I owned a 2021 K5 now you get the 2.5 SUV motor that my wife has in her 2023 Hyundai Tucson and believe me it’s got no torque so take it easy that’s not happening when the car maker that I loved is making the Biggest mistake by going electrified, it’s going to be a complete failure.

    • @roccodifranco7866
      @roccodifranco7866 5 місяців тому +1

      @@edaddyx2hansonjr436 actually I own a K5 and a 2023 Kia forte GT now let’s go down this rabbit hole if you are going to just add a 190 hp turbo to a k4 with out DCT, with out sport suspension, without bigger brakes , no dual exhaust outlets, at probably over $30,000 you are witnessing the death of a great car, so no, I’m not gonna take it easy and watch Kia rip off its customers.

    • @roccodifranco7866
      @roccodifranco7866 5 місяців тому

      @@edaddyx2hansonjr436 it’s a complete joke

  • @kevinstarski1598
    @kevinstarski1598 5 місяців тому

    So I guess rear door handles are considered ugly and are removed...hmmmm

  • @brandonhodnett5420
    @brandonhodnett5420 5 місяців тому

    Those headlights are a weak knock off of Cadillac’s current design language

  • @Axp258
    @Axp258 5 місяців тому +3

    Still cant get over the KIA's obsession with weird shaped headlights and taillights. I still prefer conventional shape face.

    • @SgawCules
      @SgawCules 5 місяців тому +1

      Kia's philosophy is literally "opposites united", and frankly, with that opinion, you're a part of the minority.

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому +1

      Hyundai and Kia vehicles are sooooooo weird looking. Not for me 👎👎👎👎

  • @ArneAsada69
    @ArneAsada69 5 місяців тому

    Cover up the badges and I’d swear it was a Polestar or Volvo.

  • @cdbnum1
    @cdbnum1 5 місяців тому

    Is there a cruise control option Andre?

    • @dillonh321
      @dillonh321 5 місяців тому +2

      That joke is old.

  • @KoreanAmericanLawyer.NewPortBe
    @KoreanAmericanLawyer.NewPortBe 5 місяців тому

    Hyundai Kia are the new Toyota Honda

  • @smithjones1906
    @smithjones1906 5 місяців тому +4

    This is repulsive. The Forte GT was better in every way. I'm not entirely sure why this is said to be a Forte replacement anyways; the Forte was the K3 overseas. This abomination is larger.

    • @diw.824
      @diw.824 5 місяців тому +4

      Because they downgraded the K3 to the Rio now in other countries.

    • @dillonh321
      @dillonh321 5 місяців тому

      I think it looks great

  • @PK-bn2pg
    @PK-bn2pg 5 місяців тому +2

    Kia Boyz just got a gift

  • @masiahsolo
    @masiahsolo 5 місяців тому +1

    The lights are horrendous

    • @davidjym
      @davidjym 5 місяців тому

      There's nothing 'good' about Kia's design.

  • @IamCorrosive
    @IamCorrosive 5 місяців тому

    I wish they would change that shifter. So ugly and dated. That aside, this is a slam dunk!

  • @ericcarabetta1161
    @ericcarabetta1161 5 місяців тому

    Me likey.

  • @freed14760
    @freed14760 5 місяців тому

    1.6 turbo is junk!

  • @jnmc-vx4fw
    @jnmc-vx4fw 5 місяців тому +1

    It’s the same

  • @davidjym
    @davidjym 5 місяців тому

    The K4 can't be more uglier !!!

  • @diamondknight4815
    @diamondknight4815 5 місяців тому

    Mazda is better. Imo of course. Yes kias are very nice. But definitely not as reliable as a mazda these days.

  • @zacharygoeden1282
    @zacharygoeden1282 5 місяців тому

    Sadly motors burn oil

  • @user-wp8xz4lu5t
    @user-wp8xz4lu5t 3 місяці тому

    I had an Optima prior to K5GT Line.....love the cars , warranty, and service network. Plan to trade my sons Elantra for the K4.....Hyundai service sucks.

  • @orzrorzrc8
    @orzrorzrc8 5 місяців тому +1

    쓰레기차