He's definitely earned a higher paying job. If it's for my most hated team in CONCACAF, then so be it, but I've accepted it for a couple years now that each final could be his last for us.
I can't understand how it's even a discussion between Laryea or Adekugbe at LB. I love Richie, but he is not a natural left back. Adekugbe is and he's in great form. Kinda similar with Miller vs Waterman at left CB. Miller is a lefty and he didn't lose his starting spot because his quality fell off. He's the logical next man up for that position. Added bonus; Adekugbe and Miller have played together quite a bit - there's a really good understanding there.
Herdman wasn't the coach last season. He took a last place team to near play offs while stuck with the old systems injured DP. If you fire Herdman over this result you will never get a world class coach again.
Kevin blue is the biggest factor in all this nonsense. I heard media should ask Kevin why Canada soccer has not put forth their financial statements for the last seven years.
Herdman did well establishing a future for canadian soccer both male and female. But he could not cut it in the MLS. Tfc needs an excuse to get rid of him and this is it.
I suspect TFC will stay the course with Herdman so long as they keep Insigne. Until he leaves, no coach should want to coach TFC until he is gone. He'll be a giant albatross around your neck. So you may as well get through this stint in the desert with him and get rid of him to give another coach a fresh start.
We’re way too nice as Canadians. EVERY other team does this and everyone knows it. We just got caught. Many other teams do more. Much more. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Statsy10regardless of who does what in sports, the goal is to WIN! The notion of scouting other teams is an acceptable practice in all sports. Every team, sport, coach or player wants to know what the team or individual they are up against is capable of. The only real question is why is there a group of self righteous, arrogant, morons being allowed to destroy the coaches and a sport that was pathetic, in terms of poor coaching, revenue, until John Herdman and Bev Priestman began coaching. What’s up with Petrillo, Wilson and the super annoying wheeler? Who should they be supporting and representing, THE CANADIAN TEAMS AND PLAYERS or Kevin Blue, the arrogant mouth piece for one soccer?
The goal is to win within the rules. There is legal scouting and there is illegal scouting. I honestly can't believe that this has to be explained to you. I'll give Herdman and to a lesser extent Priestman some credit for the other things they brought to Canada's game. With that said, they clearly crossed a line and there can be no place for that in the game.
Wheeler doesn't know what he's talking about. Good grief. You don't a) release a statement blaming Herdman and b) announce you're starting a disciplinary process unless you've got something, which the CSA has already done. They will then give that to FIFA. FIFA will then sanction him. They're cleaning up ethically, and they're not going to cite him repeatedly in the report -- which they do, as even though his name is redacted his title at the time isn't -- as the architect of the program if they don't have MULTIPLE sources. His inability to recognize what is and isn't important in a public report's release is frankly shocking. Even the redacted version is full of active angles, and they whiffed over Wheeler's head like a stiff January breeze in Winnipeg.
Wheeler sounds willfully ignorant. Like he has interest in Herdman's welfare.This is a PR issue for TFC, Herdman is guilty by association, regardless of hard evidence and is as good as gone.
Leave Herdman alone, why are Canadians the only ones trying to play the blame game? It’s time to move on boys. This is a women’s soccer issue period. Stop talking about it and it will be over!
Wrong sir. She worked under him when it started. He has been evasive and smug in helping (not) the investigation. He is letting her take the fall. He is culpable and needs to be held accountable. You don’t just let that ‘go’ and you don’t blame it on the womens game you dope.
So, having ethical standards as an organization, and expecting ethical conduct from coaching staff, isn't something you care about as a TFC supporter? Herdman was almost certainly instrumental in bringing drone spying into the Canada Soccer program. Eventually someone will provide smoking gun evidence of that. TFC could easily act now to fire Herdman, based on nothing more than TFC's crappy season and without concern for a wrongful dismissal law suit from Herdman... Why wait until next season for the Herdman ticking time bomb to explode and be faced with trying to find a new coach mid-season?
If he’s not being replaced by Bobby Smyrniotis, firing Herdman would cause more harm than good for Toronto FC.
He's definitely earned a higher paying job. If it's for my most hated team in CONCACAF, then so be it, but I've accepted it for a couple years now that each final could be his last for us.
I can't understand how it's even a discussion between Laryea or Adekugbe at LB. I love Richie, but he is not a natural left back. Adekugbe is and he's in great form. Kinda similar with Miller vs Waterman at left CB. Miller is a lefty and he didn't lose his starting spot because his quality fell off. He's the logical next man up for that position. Added bonus; Adekugbe and Miller have played together quite a bit - there's a really good understanding there.
if there is a question in the headline the answer is always no
Where did you find the time to comb through every single headline? Wow!
Croatian boss Zlatko Dalic once said about Herdman: He "has to learn some things".
If TFC turf him, its unlikely dronegate related and more likely the fact he's out of his depth in men's professional football.
Dronegate alone is survivable. Add in finishing dead last in MLS last season and sitting 11th in the East right now. ✌️
Herdman wasn't the coach last season. He took a last place team to near play offs while stuck with the old systems injured DP. If you fire Herdman over this result you will never get a world class coach again.
Simmons has deep ties in the football community?
Kevin blue is the biggest factor in all this nonsense. I heard media should ask Kevin why Canada soccer has not put forth their financial statements for the last seven years.
Herdman did well establishing a future for canadian soccer both male and female. But he could not cut it in the MLS. Tfc needs an excuse to get rid of him and this is it.
Llow my man TFC can't afford this tbh
Where’s all the furniture Adam?
I suspect TFC will stay the course with Herdman so long as they keep Insigne. Until he leaves, no coach should want to coach TFC until he is gone. He'll be a giant albatross around your neck. So you may as well get through this stint in the desert with him and get rid of him to give another coach a fresh start.
We’re way too nice as Canadians. EVERY other team does this and everyone knows it. We just got caught. Many other teams do more. Much more. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Some other teams may do this sort of thing... but that doesn't make it okay. I honestly feel that we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.
agree move on .. nothing to do with TFC
@@Statsy10regardless of who does what in sports, the goal is to WIN! The notion of scouting other teams is an acceptable practice in all sports. Every team, sport, coach or player wants to know what the team or individual they are up against is capable of. The only real question is why is there a group of self righteous, arrogant, morons being allowed to destroy the coaches and a sport that was pathetic, in terms of poor coaching, revenue, until John Herdman and Bev Priestman began coaching.
What’s up with Petrillo, Wilson and the super annoying wheeler? Who should they be supporting and representing, THE CANADIAN TEAMS AND PLAYERS or Kevin Blue, the arrogant mouth piece for one soccer?
The goal is to win within the rules. There is legal scouting and there is illegal scouting. I honestly can't believe that this has to be explained to you. I'll give Herdman and to a lesser extent Priestman some credit for the other things they brought to Canada's game. With that said, they clearly crossed a line and there can be no place for that in the game.
Wheeler doesn't know what he's talking about. Good grief. You don't a) release a statement blaming Herdman and b) announce you're starting a disciplinary process unless you've got something, which the CSA has already done. They will then give that to FIFA. FIFA will then sanction him. They're cleaning up ethically, and they're not going to cite him repeatedly in the report -- which they do, as even though his name is redacted his title at the time isn't -- as the architect of the program if they don't have MULTIPLE sources.
His inability to recognize what is and isn't important in a public report's release is frankly shocking. Even the redacted version is full of active angles, and they whiffed over Wheeler's head like a stiff January breeze in Winnipeg.
Wheeler sounds willfully ignorant. Like he has interest in Herdman's welfare.This is a PR issue for TFC, Herdman is guilty by association, regardless of hard evidence and is as good as gone.
Leave Herdman alone, why are Canadians the only ones trying to play the blame game? It’s time to move on boys. This is a women’s soccer issue period. Stop talking about it and it will be over!
Wrong sir. She worked under him when it started. He has been evasive and smug in helping (not) the investigation. He is letting her take the fall. He is culpable and needs to be held accountable. You don’t just let that ‘go’ and you don’t blame it on the womens game you dope.
John Herdman forever!
Bye bye
keep Herdman nothing to do with TFC
So, having ethical standards as an organization, and expecting ethical conduct from coaching staff, isn't something you care about as a TFC supporter?
Herdman was almost certainly instrumental in bringing drone spying into the Canada Soccer program. Eventually someone will provide smoking gun evidence of that. TFC could easily act now to fire Herdman, based on nothing more than TFC's crappy season and without concern for a wrongful dismissal law suit from Herdman...
Why wait until next season for the Herdman ticking time bomb to explode and be faced with trying to find a new coach mid-season?
Where will he go now???.. back to CANMNT coaching staff, there?? 🤔🤔
Na, Jesse Marsh has it under control
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