The rise of China has created a new kind of Chinatown

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  • Chinatowns aren’t what they used to be. A newer, more modern version of them is emerging across the English-speaking world. These new Chinese settlements have established themselves in New York, Sydney, LA, Melbourne, Vancouver, Toronto, and beyond.
    Historically, old Chinatowns were urban and almost exclusively settled by low-skilled laborers. Settling in one those old Chinatowns was a necessity, not a choice. Racist host countries were happy to relegate immigrants to segregated ghettos, and sticking together offered safety in numbers.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 496

  • @macberry4048
    @macberry4048 4 роки тому +361

    The dream was a melting pot, instead we have a dinner plate where sometimes the potatoes touch the corn but everything stays in it's section

    • @holycow343
      @holycow343 4 роки тому +21

      keep your dirty potato away from my taro >:(

    • @Wwesa2001
      @Wwesa2001 4 роки тому +19

      Yeah, another way how this is commonly called is "salad bowl"

    •  4 роки тому +5

      mac berry melting pot was never “the dream” that term was only used in the 1990’s the founding fathers never intended for a “melting pot”. Modern immigration is thanks to LBJ and his his immigration act of 1965

    • @kimba1430
      @kimba1430 4 роки тому

      Only if it wants to

    • @navegantezen5983
      @navegantezen5983 4 роки тому +24

      Probably the melting pot will take longer as the US is a sort of apartheid system. In Latin America the Chinese mixed with locals very soon.

  • @futuro2
    @futuro2 4 роки тому +46

    At some point, you could consider traveling the ACTUAL WORLD. These shows always talk about "the world" and then visit only white western countries, never Africa, never Latin America, etc. There are china towns in many other places too. So next time you use the term "all over the world" maybe actually do that for once.

    • @tunab666
      @tunab666 4 роки тому +5

      I couldn't agree more! I traveled in Manila and Bangkok recently, and as soon as I saw the title of this I thought: wow finally they are going to talk about the new Chinatowns rising all over Asians big cities! And I was curious to know about the othe rparts of the world where I have not been.. But no, not even a mention

  • @kevinmeng5231
    @kevinmeng5231 4 роки тому +87

    Flushing is probably what China would look like if there was no urban planning, which is messier but more culturally authentic and has a more distinct Chinese feel.

    • @Dufffaaa93
      @Dufffaaa93 4 роки тому +8

      Walkable, mixed use neighborhoods are the way to go. This video proves it.
      It's a shame that nowadays in China they are building soulless, car dependent, "tower in a park" type of neighborhoods. Also this looks ten times better than a typical American suburban hellscape.

    • @GyacoYu
      @GyacoYu 4 роки тому +6

      I wouldn't say Flushing has no city planing. It has a typical New World (North American/Australian) style car-dependent block system that cannot be easily find in Eurasia. I also wouldn't say Flushing is more culturally authentic, it's just more mixed and smaller.
      BTW the video is extremely offensive when claiming those Chinese businesses serve "almost exclusively to Chinese". I've never seen any of them rejecting any racial group here and also Flushing has a great number of Koreans and Vietnamese.

    • @thenewtwenties
      @thenewtwenties 4 роки тому +1

      @@GyacoYu I don't the the intention was to criticize. It was just saying that most customers were Chinese because it's mostly a Chinese neighborhood.

    • @shangli8641
      @shangli8641 4 роки тому +1

      虞海 grid design and block system is not meant to be car dependent. Car dependent street layout is more like cul de sacs and high ways. Flushing’s street patterns were determined long before car was invented like Manhattan and much of other parts of New York City.

  • @user-ib5pf9oo8l
    @user-ib5pf9oo8l 4 роки тому +68

    Crazy rich asians? They've been in your neighborhood for decades

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому +7

      Yep the truly rich don't live in areas dense with their own ethnicity.

  • @Zergcerebrates
    @Zergcerebrates 4 роки тому +122

    The best Chinatown I've ever visited is the one in Sydney. It is modern, clean, and huge. Lots of choices, shops, stores, markets and some other Asian businesses in the mix. Its easily accessible with the new streetcar(tram) and trains. The old China Town is there too and it's still cleaner and better than any Chinatown in North America.

    • @badgerman2414
      @badgerman2414 4 роки тому +5

      I’m live in Sydney. I beg to differ.

    • @Zergcerebrates
      @Zergcerebrates 4 роки тому

      @@badgerman2414 Which one is your favorite? I live in the USA and our Chinatowns are so old.

    • @ganjafi59
      @ganjafi59 4 роки тому +1

      Zerg Cerebrates Chinatown in Sydney is small dude

    • @StanleyAu
      @StanleyAu 4 роки тому +1

      Your notion of chinatown is out of date. Try visiting Toronto’s Markham, or Vancouver’s Richmond.

    • @completingsydney
      @completingsydney 4 роки тому +1

      Sydney's Chinatown is more of a historic and touristy place than the "ethnoburbs" talked about here. It's much more similar to the (much larger) NYC Chinatown mentioned. That being said, Sydney has incredible "ethnoburbs" all over the city, from Chinese, to Indian, to Middle Eastern. It takes a little bit longer for a tourist to visit, but most are only a 30 odd minute train ride away. Some names are Chatswood, Harris Park, Hurtsville, Eastwood, Strathfield, Fairfield and it goes on. I spend a lot of time exploring Sydney's suburbs and love these types of places, it's like travel without having to travel.

  • @user-sp4iw8dn3l
    @user-sp4iw8dn3l 4 роки тому +47

    Um, I would say more accurate depiction of today's Chinese immigrants would be the big LA community, Arcadia, or further down in Irvine.

    • @Zergcerebrates
      @Zergcerebrates 4 роки тому +7

      Vancouver and Sydney as well. The wealthy Chinese immigrants have a bigger presence there than even Irvine or Arcadia. They have lots and lots of huge modern Chinese plazas and condos way more than in OC or LA

    • @kevinhululu3135
      @kevinhululu3135 4 роки тому

      I live there :D

    • @Zergcerebrates
      @Zergcerebrates 4 роки тому

      @@kevinhululu3135 There where? Lol

    • @wenxinhuang373
      @wenxinhuang373 3 роки тому

      agree

  • @GyacoYu
    @GyacoYu 4 роки тому +56

    BTW the video is extremely offensive when claiming those Chinese businesses serve "almost exclusively to Chinese". I've never seen any of them rejecting any racial group here and also Flushing has a great number of Koreans and Vietnamese.

    • @latefanelum1303
      @latefanelum1303 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe they meant "cater ", but I don't know, I like to give people benefits of doubt...

    • @themysterysith
      @themysterysith 4 роки тому

      Latefa nelum i think they meant doubt just did not execute that line that well

    • @ryanflores2489
      @ryanflores2489 4 роки тому +4

      Agreed! Im Hispanic and i shop and dine at flushing and nearby Korea Town all the time. I've actually gotten close with some of the people in the area. They are very friendly for the most part and won't hesitate to teach you their culture. This area also works for me cause nearby Corona has all my Hispanic stuff lol. And vise versa, lot of Asians shop in Corona too.

  • @lctransit7233
    @lctransit7233 4 роки тому +64

    Flushing is not just composed of EB (employment-based) Immigrants and billionaires, there are quite a lot of people with lower assets and skills (mainly from Fuzhou) who moved there through seeking political asylum or family unification formed the significant amount of working-class Chinese population in the area...btw, the Fuzhou immigrant topic is politically sensitive to discuss in both China and the US

    • @Coz131
      @Coz131 4 роки тому +3

      Why Fuzhou specifically?

    • @ShinKui789
      @ShinKui789 4 роки тому

      Can you elaborate more please?

    • @sergiustang
      @sergiustang 4 роки тому +2

      I'm foochow wtf you going on about? I'm also part of the foochow association and as I know last, we literally control banking and timber in south East Asia.

    • @M4tchStickGirl
      @M4tchStickGirl 4 роки тому +1

      The fujianese population is in Brooklyn Chinatown (sunset park) not flushing

    • @toasterr4238
      @toasterr4238 4 роки тому

      About a third of Chinese immigrants a few decades ago were from Fuzhou. Out of the Chinese kids I interact with (I just graduated high school), about 40% are from Fujian/fuzhou. Toronto btw

  • @travelwithtyler
    @travelwithtyler 4 роки тому +47

    I grew up just outside Markham, Canada (one of the Ethno-burbs mentioned), and it’s a suburb that has a distinct Chinese-Canadian culture, and does not “look like” China. Many businesses have Chinese lettering, but the feel of the community is definitely Canadian with a Chinese twist. Amazing video; great to see this topic covered so well!

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому

      Yeah and Box Hill is nothing like that, it's very isolated around Box Hill Central. Then the rest is like any other old rich suburb in Melbourne.

    • @shawnchong
      @shawnchong 4 роки тому

      Hong Kong twist, I would say... twisted in the pattern of China only in recent years, surely.

    • @1234canadianguy
      @1234canadianguy 4 роки тому

      After visiting Richmond BC, which for a sec thought I was actually in China, wholely agree with you that Markham is just another Canadian suburb with Chinese characteristics.

    • @ggrey3155
      @ggrey3155 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@1234canadianguy Richmond is basically "New Hong Kong". I have relatives who live near Richmond, and other relatives who live in Markham. These are still heavily dominated by Hong Kong immigrants and their progeny who arrived in Canada in the 1980s/1990s. When I last visited these, most people spoke Cantonese rather than Mandarin. But with skilled immigration from the Mainland, I get that these places are slowly changing their character to reflect China more broadly than merely outposts of Hong Kong.

    • @1234canadianguy
      @1234canadianguy 4 роки тому +1

      @@ggrey3155 I'm from Toronto and pretty much all of my dad's family lives in Markham so I go there quite a lot. While there a lot of Chinese living there, other ethnic groups such as South Asians, Filipinos and White are also significant to varying degrees in that city. I remember when I went to uni, I've met more White people from Markham then Chinese. Contrast that to Richmond where I remember thinking when I got off the Skytrain "WTF, am I in China or something? Swear didn't bring my passport with me". Everything about it was so Chinese that I legit thought I was in China. That's another thing I find unique about multiculturalism in Toronto compared to other multicultural cities is that the ethnic demographics are well balanced in Toronto. Meaning that every major ethnic is relatively well represented. Unlike cities say Vancouver or LA where it's largely Asian and Latino or London where it's just mostly South Asian and African.

  • @tidusfantasy
    @tidusfantasy 4 роки тому +38

    Those who live in chinatown were 3rd or 4th or even 5th generations chinese immigrants...Buildings r old and have the classic chinatown style.
    THose people living in Flushing, Markham, Richmond, are decently wealthy and want to live in new condos and houses.. they r usually 1st or 2nd gen chinese immigrant.
    Fun fact, people from Chinatowns and EthnoBurbs dont really mingle.
    U ask those who live in CHina when was the last time they went to those ethnoburbs, they cant recall
    U ask those who live in ethnoburbs when was the last time they went to china town, they cant recall

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому

      Yep soo true, different generational origins typically don't mix.

    • @windhoek_stallion8455
      @windhoek_stallion8455 4 роки тому

      We have the same in Montreal. We actually call it "Old Chinatown" in 19th century buildings, often with vermin problems near old Montreal. They are mainly Cantonese (and Vietnamese arrived in the 70s-80s) and are now in the 3rd 4th generation. Many don't live there but do their grocery shopping and eating out there.... We then have a "New Chinatown" that has developed near a university and caters mostly to foreign students. They are all mainlanders and you're right that there is little mixing between both. These too communities look at each other suspiciously.

    • @amyseaden9069
      @amyseaden9069 3 роки тому

      @Edward Tay Disagree. Plenty of new Chinese immigrants who want the big house and often knock down an existing house and build right up to the property line to maximize the amount of square footage and try to cut down any tree in sight. The goal isn't a visually appealling house or a house that matches the character of the neighbourhood it is the interior that is important and maximizing the square footage. In Canada the goal is to live a somewhat Canadianized life with the comforts of China. Many have a home but also invest in condos because real estate has both been the main investment in China and a big money maker. Also another way to park more money outside China.

  • @randomdumpchannel6220
    @randomdumpchannel6220 4 роки тому +32

    The future from shows or movies like Firefly or Bladerunner is looking less and less like fiction as time goes on. Kinda makes me think everyone years ago already knew where we were headed. I don't think I care either way. We're all human, in the end, while we complain and bicker about other people, its artificial intelligence and automation that will be our undoing. On the brightside, perhaps our creations will be the best of what we were.

    • @amandamate9117
      @amandamate9117 4 роки тому +1

      our creations will be monsters that will slave the whole universe with all of its living entities

  • @digitalyume
    @digitalyume 4 роки тому +16

    Recent immigrants may just want to create a place of familiarity or safe community for them to settle in. They want to mingle and be a part of their new society but racism is still a major issue. Being told by ignorant racists to "go back to ___" is hurtful.

    • @wangdulu
      @wangdulu 4 роки тому +1

      @Alex H well, that's just non-sense

    • @mrrocket3006
      @mrrocket3006 4 роки тому

      @@wangdulu Just check all the Hollywood films, most are all Co partnered by chinese companies nowadays. Also even the NBA now is basically own by the Chinese.

    • @wangdulu
      @wangdulu 4 роки тому +1

      @@mrrocket3006 are you a idiot?. only 7% Hollywood films, Co partnered by chinese companies . china has about 5-8% of the NBA market,what the hell you talking about ?

    • @echelon2k8
      @echelon2k8 Рік тому

      Can't really blame the locals for saying this when it's their community that is being invaded and disrupted by the newcomers against their will.

  • @henryli693
    @henryli693 4 роки тому +4

    I am a Chinese. For me, the Chinatown in NYC, is the Manhattan one.

  • @aaronchow2366
    @aaronchow2366 4 роки тому +3

    Great job Nikhil. Great job. :-)

  • @anthonyc7279
    @anthonyc7279 4 роки тому +5

    New York Chinatown is old, and while Flushing is better, they aren't really all shiny new either. Most of the immigrants from China to US are of working class. New type of Chinatown are not really found in US but in Canada, specifically in cities like Vancouver and Toronto (Markham) where you no longer just have working class immigrants but the rich immigrant who got their visa via business requirements before that program ended (which required them to have a net worth of at least $1.6 million).

  • @dougmorato
    @dougmorato 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video!!

  • @aarav3890
    @aarav3890 4 роки тому +1

    @4:50 anyone notice the folders on the right are tags for the speaker? neat design

  • @shawnchong
    @shawnchong 4 роки тому +2

    You guys did a great job with this report... covered all the bases. The only thing I might clarify - for the uninitiated - is the reason why Taiwanese immigration to Flushing paved the way for Chinese immigrants; because the two countries share a common cultural past.

  • @tunuitahitianfire9875
    @tunuitahitianfire9875 4 роки тому +7

    Convoy st in San Diego is the center of the next up and coming China town!

    • @TuDamnFilthy
      @TuDamnFilthy 4 роки тому

      I'm Chinese living in San Diego. I love the foods in Convoy, but, honestly, the infrastructure there has a long way to go. I wish it will become another Asian centered neighborhood (I don't like the word Chinatown cuz it doesn't sound authentic lo).

  • @Blaze6432
    @Blaze6432 4 роки тому +14

    Why are Chinese Nationals allowed to buy property in the US and Canada if their country doesn't allow the same privaledge for our own citizens?

    • @dennish5150
      @dennish5150 4 роки тому +6

      Yes you can buy land and houses in China too. Do your own research man. It is a open market.

    • @JasonSmith-sx1nu
      @JasonSmith-sx1nu 4 роки тому +2

      because China isn't strapped for cash and maintain one of the largest savings rate in the world. unlike the US where the majority of spending is based on debt. because China has a national policy when it comes to race and policy aren't dictated by capitalist greed.

    • @theonealfonso8045
      @theonealfonso8045 4 роки тому

      Dennis Huang you have to have a Chinese behind. Do your home work

    • @echelon2k8
      @echelon2k8 4 роки тому +11

      @@dennish5150 There is no private ownership of land in China. One can only obtain rights to use land. A land lease of up to 70 years is usually granted for residential purposes. Foreigners who have worked or studied in China for at least a year are allowed to buy a home.

  • @karanvarma4843
    @karanvarma4843 4 роки тому +5

    Flushing is China and China is Flushing
    Lololololololllol

  • @nithinravi4401
    @nithinravi4401 4 роки тому +1

    Good video !!!

  • @royking7298
    @royking7298 3 роки тому

    I'm enjoying the Quartz, "China Because" series a lot. Thanks!!!

  • @colorfulcodes
    @colorfulcodes 4 роки тому +2

    I actually prefer this way than entire mixture as it preserves culture by neighborhoods and you know where to go. Bronx for good jamaican food, little Italy for italian, Korea town for bubble tea and kareoke, etc. Salad bowl is better. Total mixture waters down culture. I've seen that in other places so it end up being a basic version of everything.

    • @tahirrizwan6759
      @tahirrizwan6759 4 роки тому

      I feel you, same as in Toronto. Like every neighborhood has a distinct enclave or ethnicity but not overbearingly dominating which leaves room for diversity. I live between K-town and Corso Italia (smaller little italy in Toronto) so I’m covered and not too far off from Chinatown. I feel us Torontonians just mingle and get by in our own way. Here in my neighborhood you have obvious Jamaican, Italian, and Korean. In LA where I livec it was more Latino (I lived in la for 8 years ) You get all the benefits without setting foot in the country basically. I love it :D

    • @chris1z142
      @chris1z142 3 роки тому

      It’s cool aesthetically and it makes for an interesting experience with pronounced cultural exchange, but it also causes a lot of problems. It creates hyper specific identities and enclaves of different cultural values. It contributes to inequality and political divisions. People don’t want to subsidize alternative lifestyles of other communities which have different values. So it’s either you nurture a unified identity or you settle with inequality. Really leaning towards the former and we embrace a sort of multicultural monoculture that brings in elements of all people (ie melting pot).
      Canada claims to be a proponent of a system that celebrates differences but that’s not accurate. Polls show that Canadians are less likely to be open to alternative cultures and it gets worse by the year. Canadian cultural mosaic came out of a necessity in dealing with Quebec. It’s not a solid long term policy to maintain a nation state.

  • @terryloi6975
    @terryloi6975 4 роки тому +1

    You've gotta be kidding me, I just missed that area in Queen from 2016.

  • @fireemblemaddict128
    @fireemblemaddict128 4 роки тому +3

    Peoples minds are always blown when they see Flushing. Like it's Chinatown but huge and more REAL. It is the king Chinatown of the east coast.

  • @Sigliry
    @Sigliry 4 роки тому +1

    My relative in China is a bank loan manager in Industrial Commercial Bank of China who has tier with top officials inside the city system with multi-billionaire companies to giving out loans and she makes a chunk out of the interests. She has made $13 Million dollars so far after 7 years at her position. She is now planing move to New York Flushing for retirement and housing investment(Airbnb) and Philadelphia. However, she wasn’t even among the top between Flushing Chinese Community mega-gaint realtors. She didn’t even know the size of cash flow in the United States among Chinese people. What a shame.

  • @bryanakoijammeiteihao
    @bryanakoijammeiteihao 4 роки тому

    Your blurred doctor was Johny Sins!! 🤣🤣🤣😇😎

  • @AshwinAjay
    @AshwinAjay 4 роки тому

    What was the term that he used, Ethanoburbs right ?

  • @jjw3046
    @jjw3046 4 роки тому +12

    Why do nearly all the shops in Chinatown areas like Flushing look so old and decrepit? At least clean or replace the dusty shop signs every once in a while and give your storefront a nice makeover! You can instantly spot where the Japanese and Western stores are because they stand out in contrast and look so much nicer and much better designed in comparison.
    Every majority-Chinese city I've been to has that same early 20th century "look", regardless of the host country's political system or level of economic development.

    • @alexwschan185
      @alexwschan185 4 роки тому +3

      Just like a clean textbook shows a lazy student who doesn't write any notes down in class, a dirty worn-out shop shows business and capital flow in Chinese businesses.

    • @newborn6
      @newborn6 4 роки тому +5

      Due to lack of Government city planning, If you go to China you noticed that their city always changing and re-imagining, The will of political influence make city constantly been readjusted and maintained in a very orderly and modern fashion. where China towns in the west are just a bunch of citizens doing what they want as long as the cost stays low and their property stays functional, not worrying what influence it has on community as a whole.

    • @dr.woozie7500
      @dr.woozie7500 4 роки тому +3

      JJ W The suburban Chinese areas are not old and decrepit. Look up Richmond or Markham.

    • @jacobbrassard2776
      @jacobbrassard2776 4 роки тому +4

      Go to the San Gabriel Valley. Majority Chinese in many cities and looks great.

  • @turtlegeneral
    @turtlegeneral 4 роки тому +3

    pleasant surprise when the host spoke mandarin!

    • @dasalekhya
      @dasalekhya 4 роки тому +1

      and he is of *east Indian* heritage !

  • @SnowElf_96
    @SnowElf_96 4 роки тому +1

    This was super well done. A part of me loves this cause Chinatown was seen as dirty and quick and easy Chinese food. But now we are seeing massive amounts of immigrant families who move in one same city.
    - Chinese move to Markham
    - South East Asian or Indian move to Brampton as well now Scarborough.
    The white populations are elderly and move out of these spaces.
    A good example is the large amount of Asians pushing in North York a region north of Toronto.
    These ethnoburbs are totally awesome and I wish more people would take over our country. Honestly soon we will have mini states running within and around our cities.

  • @vz8443
    @vz8443 4 роки тому +1

    Cant agree with the argument that 'flushing is china and china is flushing'. If you have visited both, it is not hard to tell they have very different vibe, lifestyle and city landscape.

  • @mshara1
    @mshara1 4 роки тому +1

    Should've included Sydney. As a Sydneysider. Burwood, Strathfied, Rhodes, Mascot, Chatswood, and the CBD , probably each have more upper-middle 'New Chinese' than Flushings.

  • @liza6162
    @liza6162 4 роки тому +2

    I love Flushing! So many good food.

  • @jebbo-c1l
    @jebbo-c1l 4 роки тому +3

    Looks like an amazing place for food, definitely visiting if i ever come to NY

    • @theolich4384
      @theolich4384 4 роки тому +2

      They do have the most genuine, unaltered Chinese food. With normal ingredients of course.

    • @jameswang999
      @jameswang999 4 роки тому +1

      Theolich You really had to include the last sentence 😑.

  • @vitocorleone9215
    @vitocorleone9215 4 роки тому +6

    I dunno
    I feel that the Chinatown in America continent are more Chinese than the China. This Chinatown have more chinese culture feel than China. It feel like home. I feel moving to America.

  • @cooliipie
    @cooliipie 4 роки тому +28

    Sorry but it doesn't look like China at all

    • @joy1ess
      @joy1ess 4 роки тому +23

      I think China is a lot cleaner and more modern...

    • @Derek-ys8gq
      @Derek-ys8gq 4 роки тому +4

      agree. it's doesn't look like china at all

    • @codingcat1836
      @codingcat1836 4 роки тому +4

      If you think this is what China looks like, you watched too much Fox News.

    • @phantomtq
      @phantomtq 4 роки тому +10

      Do you guys live in only shanghai macau or beijing? Seriously other than those cities other places sucks. Just an example go to public toilet in china anyplace even beijing... its fcking dirtiest on earth

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому

      @sameer s LOL brainwashed fools. There is strong skepticism and puzzling Time & Genetic evidence that Coronavirus does not originate from Wuhan. This is very wierd.

  • @weepingcamel1
    @weepingcamel1 4 роки тому +1

    Why "Because China?" why not "Therefore China"? The program is actually quite well done, if not too informative, but the name is a bit ... misleading

  • @duyataksis5210
    @duyataksis5210 4 роки тому +42

    I'd be interested to learn about the dynamics between the new and old Chinatowns. Do the more recent immigrants look down on their poorer "descendants of railway workers" kin?

    • @kongwee1978
      @kongwee1978 4 роки тому

      If you come to my country, all race have their fair share of racist and classes. Discrimination of rich and poor.

    • @chinadollfmd
      @chinadollfmd 4 роки тому +6

      I live in Toronto. The new generation of rich mainland migrants tend to be arrogant and flashy compared to immigrants from HK. The first wave of Toi San immigrants has past away leaving 2nd and 3rd generation.

    • @sweetpotato172
      @sweetpotato172 4 роки тому +14

      @@chinadollfmd all rich do is flash money regardless of their ethnicity

    • @wutwut1728
      @wutwut1728 4 роки тому

      @@sweetpotato172 naah, only chinese people do that

    • @holycow343
      @holycow343 4 роки тому +7

      Growing up in Manhattan Chinatown back in my day its usually about FOB (Fresh of boat) vs ABC (American Born Chinese). ABC will look down on recent immigrated Chinese kids while the FOB kids be like.... wtf you chinese too. For some reason the ABC gang hated the Fujianese ethnic Chinese though never understood why that is. An ABC gang was made to beat up people who they considered FOB and FOB had to form their own gang to fight off ABC, both sides ended up being tricked into doing drug related activities. So there were a lot of gang fights in Chinatown because of this.

  • @Phlegethon
    @Phlegethon 4 роки тому +12

    Uh immigration policy is not skills based except in the most limited situations. Does this guy do basic research?

    • @phillip76
      @phillip76 4 роки тому +1

      It is only talking about Asian Americans.

    • @Phlegethon
      @Phlegethon 4 роки тому +1

      Phillip it’s not true for Asians either. US immigration just favors family immigration and everyone else waits in a long line especially China India

    • @fireemblemaddict128
      @fireemblemaddict128 4 роки тому

      it was in the 70s and 80s. This is a fact.

    • @shangli8641
      @shangli8641 4 роки тому

      Phlegethon unless, you’re a direct family member like a spouse or child, the wait time is quite long whereas the wait time for skilled based EB1-A or EB1-B is shorter. Almost a majority of new Asian immigrants are relatively highly educated (bachelors)

  • @kuanged
    @kuanged 4 роки тому

    When the Chinese came to work here in the 1800s, they married American women and tried to settle. White men who thought themselves superior would not tolerate a nonwhite marrying their women. In 1882, the Chinese were subjected to the exclusion act. I dated a few white women when I was in college back in the early 2000s. We would get stared at by some people. With one girl, I literally caught her friend trying to convince her to break it off with me when I got back from the bathroom. The reason was because I was Asian and we didnt "match". I was shocked. It was the new millenium in a very liberal East coast state and this kind of thinking still existed.
    It's not that we didn't want to have a melting pot, it's that white people would not tolerate a melting pot.

    • @echelon2k8
      @echelon2k8 Рік тому

      It's the same thing anywhere where one group is a clear majority and you are the minority.

  • @jackji2007
    @jackji2007 4 роки тому

    new york subway is just like a shit hole, i was seriously scared when i first time saw their entrances.

  • @nhanprogaming9987
    @nhanprogaming9987 4 роки тому +2

    This is invasion without bullet

  • @Christine-Tina
    @Christine-Tina 3 роки тому

    Flushing's Chinatown looks cool, it makes me think of the one in downtown Toronto. Until seeing this, every CT I had been to so far (Montreal, Manhattan...) sucked compared to the one in Toronto. But this one looks legit.

  • @Brick-Life
    @Brick-Life 3 роки тому

    0:56 Box Hill, 7:08 Also Box Hill

  • @Brick-Life
    @Brick-Life 4 роки тому +2

    0:56 Box Hill, 7:08 Also Glen Waverly

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому

      NOPE, that's Hills BBQ on Station Street Box Hill. Glen Waverly is too mixed and big to be an ethnoburb. My Aunt lives near there though.

    • @echelon2k8
      @echelon2k8 4 роки тому

      @@Neojhun Box Hill isn't really an ethnoburb either, if you get out of the shopping district. It only looks like it is because the transport hub attracts Asians in droves from all the surrounding suburbs who frequent the area for the restaurants, etc, that cater to these visitors.

  • @peterze665
    @peterze665 4 роки тому +1

    most of these places are actually half Chinese and half Korean...

    • @TheDavidLiou
      @TheDavidLiou 4 роки тому +1

      Asians look the same to them lol xD

  • @Neojhun
    @Neojhun 4 роки тому +1

    Umm no Box Hill is nothing like that, the asian area is much smaller scale. Not a real EthnoBurb. Closest one I can think of is SpringVale.

    • @mshara1
      @mshara1 4 роки тому +1

      He mistook Melbourne for Sydney. As a Sydneysider. Burwood, Strathfied, Rhodes, Mascot, Chatswood, and the CBD are probably each have more upper-middle New Chinese than Flushings.

  • @Tetraglot
    @Tetraglot 4 роки тому +4

    Beginning of video: "These malls look nice, I want to live here!"
    8:17: okay never mind

  • @dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod
    @dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod 4 роки тому +11

    i love how they say "taking over cities" around the world as if the west didnt "take over" and colonised the world itself

  • @poe7716
    @poe7716 4 роки тому +1

    I like their food

  • @obsidianstatue
    @obsidianstatue 4 роки тому +17

    Flushing and New york in general with a few exceptions look more like a 2nd or 3rd tier city in China, but those medium sized cities have some very nice historic areas or city walls to make it more interesting than New York.

    • @WoWplayer527
      @WoWplayer527 4 роки тому +18

      the building in a second tier chinese city wont stand for more than 50 years. its disrespectful to compare a city with actual history to cookie cutter cardboard box cities in china. china had real cities: but they just threw em out because they were old. cultureless people.

    • @obsidianstatue
      @obsidianstatue 4 роки тому +12

      @@WoWplayer527 second tier cities like Hangzhou, Suzhou, Xi'an, Chongqing, Chengdu, Qingdao, Nanjing? have you ever been to these cities?
      LOL a guy with a tunnel vision calling other people "cultureless"

    • @hogatiwash7750
      @hogatiwash7750 4 роки тому

      @@WoWplayer527 china had to build cookie cutters buildings b/c of their pop. you know how difficult it is to house 1.3 bill. ppl?

    • @theolich4384
      @theolich4384 4 роки тому +1

      @@WoWplayer527 The majority of the "2nd tier cities" in China have extensive history that goes back several millennia. The root is so deep that many of their relics are still intact even with numerous war, famine, and social upheaval.

    • @alexliu5806
      @alexliu5806 4 роки тому +2

      @@WoWplayer527 Cookie cutter as in the same cookie-cutter technology used to manufacture suburbs during the baby boom in the US? Nothing's wrong with "cookie-cutter" buildings.

  • @terminal2004
    @terminal2004 4 роки тому +1

    Don't worry, they'll loot both the old and new ones.

  • @Brick-Life
    @Brick-Life 4 роки тому +1

    0:56 Box Hill

    • @echelon2k8
      @echelon2k8 4 роки тому

      RIP

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому

      Yep Whitehorse Road, at the end of of the thoroughfare. They mention is later 7:00 they show Hill's BBQ.

  • @dooleft96
    @dooleft96 4 роки тому +1

    Flushing looks like urban China? No, it's more like a control group to see how Chinese cities would be like if the government doesn't make development plans. I would like to describe flushing as a poorly planned, third-line Chinese city.

    • @ggrey3155
      @ggrey3155 4 роки тому +1

      That's actually a very good description! With few exceptions, most Chinatowns around the world are messy and chaotic because they started off as ethnic ghettos, and grew without any masterplan. This is completely different than urban development in actual China which is almost always carefully planned.

  • @jal8298
    @jal8298 4 роки тому +96

    Flushing doesn't even look close to today's China. Has the reporter ever travel outside of US?

    • @NegativEgale
      @NegativEgale 4 роки тому +34

      JN wow, what a big brain person here!

    • @kongwee1978
      @kongwee1978 4 роки тому +19

      @@NegativEgale Thanks to SerpentZA and Cmilk.

    • @WoWplayer527
      @WoWplayer527 4 роки тому +23

      @@NegativEgale its true. get out of the 1st tier cities and you will see 3rd world levels of poverty in some areas. like the 1970s never ended for them

    • @sweetpotato172
      @sweetpotato172 4 роки тому +18

      @@WoWplayer527 all the countries have their fair share of "third world" aka less developed area

    • @holycow343
      @holycow343 4 роки тому +6

      China is huge, I'm pretty sure by probability he can find somewhere in China that looks like Flushing XD.

  • @maxdc988
    @maxdc988 4 роки тому +18

    A rare video about Chinese which didn't insinuate them (I believe I didn't miss any of them). lol

    • @navegantezen5983
      @navegantezen5983 4 роки тому +4

      Yes, me too I was waiting for the moment of “true”, of course: the intrinsic malignity of mainland Chinese.

  • @mickkrever4084
    @mickkrever4084 4 роки тому +31

    *In America(especially now), EVERYTHING is about RACE*

    • @betraymamm7872
      @betraymamm7872 4 роки тому +1

      u so smart bc never thought about that

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому

      Yeah that was NOT just America. I specifically grew up going to Box Hill alot. That ain't murica.

    • @mshara1
      @mshara1 4 роки тому

      Its literally a video about Chinatown. Just chill.

  • @jont2576
    @jont2576 4 роки тому

    If u think this is bad......u should come to my country Singapore or go to Australia. The whole place is becoming like not a country but a Chinatown,little India and pinoy land etc sewn together.
    The biggest irony is the Chinatown in Singapore,was meant for the original Chinese immigrants that migrated to Singapore,over the past two hundred years,most of which originated from a place called fujia,guangdong province in China,just like those that went to many chinatowns across the world over the last two hundred years.....now it's a NEW Chinatown for the new wave immigrants from places just like those mentioned in the video.....northern Chinese.the difference between northern and southerners is southern Chinese mostly speak dialects like Cantonese,hokkien,teochews like Hong kongere and Taiwanese do......while the northern Chinese speak mostly mandarin.

  • @yingtan9190
    @yingtan9190 4 роки тому

    No. Flushing is a very old version of China. It's like China in 1980s. It more resembles America than China.Going there just feels like travel back in time....

  • @barbieluohu
    @barbieluohu 4 роки тому

    Yeah China is growing amazingly , don’t be jealous

  • @thechickenstew3716
    @thechickenstew3716 4 роки тому +2

    Flushing is the SHIIIIT! I love it 😻

  • @memethingz6004
    @memethingz6004 2 роки тому

    Greetings from Serbia

  • @vicchow8139
    @vicchow8139 4 роки тому +31

    holy crap, even i'd be insulted if i lived in another country and people from my origin country built a whole city without regards to any local culture....

    • @giacomo7542
      @giacomo7542 4 роки тому +24

      What? New York has no “local culture” unless you mean the Native Americans who lived here before a bunch of Europeans came in with no regards to the “local culture.”

    • @kindaking
      @kindaking 4 роки тому +4

      @@giacomo7542 ikr this comment is so ignorant

    • @philosoftfurkitusjunkyard2462
      @philosoftfurkitusjunkyard2462 4 роки тому +1

      Reeducation Camp? 🤣

    • @ogc9649
      @ogc9649 4 роки тому +11

      Giacomo you’re ignorant

    • @chamade166
      @chamade166 4 роки тому +7

      Americans have no culture to speak, it’s a mish mash of watered down immigrants cultures. Which is obvious in the generic ugly cities, crap food and so on.

  • @mickkrever4084
    @mickkrever4084 4 роки тому +6

    *This document need to be translated into Chinese surely will increase Chinese hatred of White Americans*

  • @kennylin2425
    @kennylin2425 4 роки тому +9

    Lol most of the fancy stuff in China town doesn’t even come from China. Most upscale bubble tea place and new hip resturants are by Taiwanese or HK

  • @cscsp
    @cscsp 4 роки тому +9

    The last time I visited NY Chinatown, I thought it looks like a dilapidated slum, as compared to Singapore. I thought the Chinese rushed in where angels fear to tread, maybe for the ENTITLEMENTS.

    • @dennish5150
      @dennish5150 4 роки тому +4

      It must be a feel good thing for all the white people so they can tell them self "hey, this is China. That is why we are so much better...." 🤣🤣🤣

    • @theolich4384
      @theolich4384 4 роки тому +3

      The Chinatown of the NYC is built upon the historic Five Points, arguably the most infamous slum ever existed in the western world. A bit of history won't hurt, mate.

    • @CrimsonEclipse
      @CrimsonEclipse 4 роки тому

      Hard to say most Blue states usually look like slum but it has the most immigrants there as well. Including the Chinese. The problem I see is those blue states are melting pots with many sanctuary cities. The only reason people from China moved there is because there is already a Chinese population they can move into. It’s not easy to build places from the ground up. Also they are more accustomed to the urban cities to begin with.

  • @lidorgod
    @lidorgod 4 роки тому

    okay but flushing is wack

  • @xipingpingpooh2543
    @xipingpingpooh2543 4 роки тому +11

    See how happy the people are without the ccp lingering .

    • @betraymamm7872
      @betraymamm7872 4 роки тому

      u so smart bc never thought about that

  • @lanxu3327
    @lanxu3327 4 роки тому +19

    Flushing is like 1980s suburb of China

    • @TheLaXandro
      @TheLaXandro 4 роки тому +11

      80s China was still a hellhole, it only really started growing and modernising in the last 30 years.

    • @newsomething8682
      @newsomething8682 4 роки тому +1

      @sameer s at least the CCP COPs don't kill black and push elderly on the ground AND walk ON him, at least not on camera.

    • @user-zm9cz2pu9z
      @user-zm9cz2pu9z 4 роки тому +1

      @sameer s i can't breathe

    • @emilyyejgvifa6783
      @emilyyejgvifa6783 4 роки тому +9

      ​@sameer s USA!USA! TAIWAN NO1, GOD BLESS AMERICA! MAGA
      USA!USA! TAIWAN NO1, GOD BLESS AMERICA! MAGA
      USA!USA! TAIWAN NO1, GOD BLESS AMERICA! MAGA
      BLACK PEOPLE LOVE THE USA!!!!!

    • @emilyyejgvifa6783
      @emilyyejgvifa6783 4 роки тому +6

      @sameer s USA IS BLACK PARADISE!!!!!!

  • @luisvlogs5560
    @luisvlogs5560 4 роки тому

    I wanna live thier 🥺

  • @vrealzhou
    @vrealzhou 4 роки тому +3

    I feel Chatswood in Sydney is the Chinatown more like China today. Feels like part of a second tier Chinese city.

    • @yerri5567
      @yerri5567 4 роки тому +2

      Ye Zhou Burwood is the real Chinatown of Sydney haha

    • @vrealzhou
      @vrealzhou 4 роки тому

      @@yerri5567 Yes, Burwood has more Chinese but the Chatswood is more like China when you see feeling of the buildings. Burwood street is too old looking.

  • @boruizou4285
    @boruizou4285 4 роки тому +21

    Who the hell told you that 1/3 of Chinese millionares want to move abroad. I have couple million dollars income per year,I love travelling to Europe or Japan for 2-3 times a year,but moving to live there? Never. Neither do my friends who have simillar income.

    • @betraymamm7872
      @betraymamm7872 4 роки тому +1

      dam lucky guy, living the life. good for u enjoy it.

    • @santiagorappy71
      @santiagorappy71 4 роки тому +5

      Yeah, I think that’s more to make it sound like Chinese don’t like their own country, which ofc it’s not true

    • @williampan29
      @williampan29 4 роки тому +28

      The difference between you and quartz is that they might have macro data while you only have anecdoctals. So i trust them, more.

    • @betraymamm7872
      @betraymamm7872 4 роки тому +11

      @@williampan29 good point

    • @boruizou4285
      @boruizou4285 4 роки тому +4

      懷舊客 I would rather trust a dog than any media,western or Eastern. Have this mindset,maybe you can become a millionaire too.

  • @jiayinan9353
    @jiayinan9353 4 роки тому

    The Chinese map is wrong

  • @driveintherain
    @driveintherain 4 роки тому +5

    2:41 I see this gentleman has no knowledge of China..

  • @nromk
    @nromk 4 роки тому +1

    can China help Mexicans and other immigrants do the same, I'd like to go to Mexico for lunch....

  • @jennypai1776
    @jennypai1776 2 роки тому

    Basically, white flight

  • @Brwnsugar
    @Brwnsugar 4 роки тому

    First off, Chinatown is usually filled with HK immigrants. They all speak Cantonese as a 1st language and a few with Mandirin as a second. It's sad that Westerners dont know the difference and jumble it all as Chinese, but when it comes to HK they are not Chinese...

    • @ggrey3155
      @ggrey3155 4 роки тому +1

      You are wrong! The North American Chinatowns long predate immigrants from Hong Kong. They started off as ethnic ghettos of Chinese who migrated in the 19th century when the Qing Dynasty was collapsing. They are Cantonese speaking because the vast majority came from Guangdong province, with a few others from Fujian, hence the Hokkien- and Teochew-speaking minorities found in Overseas Chinese communities, particularly in Southeast Asia. The rest of China contributed almost no immigrants either to the West or to Southeast Asian countries until the last few decades. None of this have anything to do with Hong Kong.

    • @lyzheng8061
      @lyzheng8061 4 роки тому

      Interesting. Even when Hongkong was ruled by Britain, locals are still called CHINESE though they can't speak Mandarin. Now you told me people in Hongkong are not Chinese, LOL. I think you can call yourself traitors or rebels, I don't hate it, but please tell the truth.

  • @PSL09
    @PSL09 4 роки тому +5

    oh boy chinese colonialism...the benefits of globalism

  • @SouthCountyDreaming
    @SouthCountyDreaming 4 роки тому

    Monterey Park is the old China. Arcadia, Irvine, Edison NJ, those are the real Chinese ethnoburbs.

    • @yerri5567
      @yerri5567 4 роки тому

      TheGoodWifeLover97 "Monterey Park is the old China. Arcadia, Irvine, Edison NJ, those are the real Chinese ethnoburbs"
      So old isnt "real"? Or you equating "rich" with "real"?

  • @Jackben1mble
    @Jackben1mble 4 роки тому

    Tous les Jour bakery is Korean

  • @esso0527
    @esso0527 4 роки тому +1

    Taiwan numba one!! ❤️

  • @masiver1161
    @masiver1161 4 роки тому

    Beware of the second wave.

  • @nickeldime1691
    @nickeldime1691 4 роки тому

    Detroit needs Chinese people.

  • @DukeFan99
    @DukeFan99 4 роки тому +3

    This is China 20 years ago

  • @alanoh3069
    @alanoh3069 4 роки тому +7

    You don't get a choice to move to another country if you live in China. That choice is made by the Chinese government, and depends on many factors, from wealth, education, social credit score etc. 😉

    • @jayzee316
      @jayzee316 4 роки тому +1

      of course that explains the 100 millions of Chinese that leave china every year and return, because china is so horrible they want to go back after they spend billions overseas propping up their economies lol

  • @hydrolifetech7911
    @hydrolifetech7911 4 роки тому

    Hate comments incoming in 3,2,1...

  • @phoenix0110
    @phoenix0110 4 роки тому +4

    More like Cantonese town

  • @memethingz6004
    @memethingz6004 2 роки тому

    China power

  • @Alesscamera
    @Alesscamera 4 роки тому +1

    This doesn’t look like China, looks like any Cuban, or Latino town with Chinese letters, or maybe Taiwan...

  • @sv4527
    @sv4527 4 роки тому

    Do they have Chinese language option in ATM's yet ? Soon the US maybe seeing job ads that mandate applicants to know Chinese , just to get employed .

    • @theolich4384
      @theolich4384 4 роки тому

      Definitely gonna be a bonus...

    • @32353235e
      @32353235e 4 роки тому

      Lol, checkout Vancouver, you are 20-30 years too late

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 роки тому

      LOL ignorant racist fools. That's not necessary as Chinese can speak fluent English. No language barrier for others.

  • @91010186
    @91010186 4 роки тому +5

    Locust town.

  • @zackattack7967
    @zackattack7967 4 роки тому

    Human's hope USA !

  • @velavanlaack9134
    @velavanlaack9134 4 роки тому

    Chinese colony in the big Apple

  • @zackcraft7204
    @zackcraft7204 4 роки тому +3

    All this Chinese gentrification leads to crowded spaces... How does that look now with social distancing??

    • @Jambion
      @Jambion 4 роки тому +3

      The same as New York then?

  • @Brick-Life
    @Brick-Life 4 роки тому +6

    Chinese in Mainland want to leave. Chinese outside Asia want to go to Mainland

    • @limteikhan6056
      @limteikhan6056 4 роки тому

      Brick Life why?

    • @dingodingo82
      @dingodingo82 4 роки тому +3

      @@limteikhan6056 Some Chinese outside of Asia have a hard time adapting to western lifestyle you can start with food much of everything is frozen not fresh, lack of efficient public transportation\infrastructure, suburbs in the west can be boring as hell compared to Asia. Sometimes little bit of racism might be a turnoff. Many also want be part of the evolving story of the "motherland's" rise.
      Mainland is 1.4 billion people so that equates to increased competition for education and job opportunities which can be stifling. The rich mainlanders know from history nothing is ever certain politically so they want to move their money around for safekeeping which can include having a second citizenship/residency in the west. Sometimes mainlanders think the west is more evolved and free. They love the higher education system of the west because it can provide them job security after graduation back in the mainland or they can stay in the states and work.

  • @issacwashington4880
    @issacwashington4880 4 роки тому

    都不用看视频,看地图就知道怎么回事

    • @mswinds
      @mswinds 4 роки тому

      有一说一,除了地图,其他的都蛮客观的,相较于其他主流科普节目

  • @teddinardo8944
    @teddinardo8944 4 роки тому +4

    covid19 coverup,- everyone see the clip everyone is watching,the clip on youtube ,it is going viral ,art reflects the events of today too cool youtube -network-1976 I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore, i pray for humanity the world and for Hong Kong may the be free human rights is better than oppression

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 4 роки тому +4

    As a non-Chinese person I'm not allowed to go and settle in that country.