What's it Like in a Radioactive Thorium Mine? A cubic kilometer to power the world!
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2018
- What's it Like in a Radioactive Thorium Mine?
How radioactive is a Thorium mine?
For how long can one stay there?
Do you need a lamp in a Thorium mine or does it glow in the dark? (hahaha!)
For how long can a cubic kilometer power the world?
There are many questions and in this video we are in Norway and going into the Thorium mine in the Fensfelt complex. It used to be an iron mine dating back as long as to 1650!
We met the owner (who doesn't want to be on video) and the regional geologist and his assistant who guided us along the way.
The place is about 100 times more radioactive than normal background radiaiton. Nothing to worry too much about as long as you don't live there or ingest any materials.
Actually the radioactivity doesn't come directly from Thorium but rather indirectly since the main sources of radioactivity is the daughter products of Thorium that has much shorter halftime.
In this particular area which is smaller than one cubic kilometer there is more energy in Thorium than all the past and future oil and gas in all of Norway.
Given that Norway is the world's richest nation due to it's oil and gas profits, should't they play a key role in developing this future power source to help power the world? (and make another 1,5 trillion $ in doing so)
Let’s not gamble with your future. It’s time to leave the past behind and enter a safe, healthy and rich new era of growth!
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Thorium is a waste product in many Rare Earth mines, in fact mines have been closed because there's too much Thorium and it's considered to be hazardous waste, making mining for other elements there uneconomic. Basically, you'll never run out of Thorium, it's abundant as a waste product without having to go looking especially for it.
Exactly. Also, we can run our nuclear power plants for thousands of years just on nuclear waste from Light Water Reactors and weapons programs without even touching the plentiful thorium that's laying around in mine tailings. Then, several thousand years after we have finally used up all of these waste products, we can start using thorium.
I hear how India should start using thorium based nuclear power because they have a lot of thorium in their country and can only declare, "Who cares who has and who doesn't have thorium for their nuclear program."
Any one single rare earth mine produces enough thorium in their tailings to run the world on nuclear power and there are hundreds of rare-earth mines. The problem with rare-earth mines in the US is these mildly radioactive tailings are a regulatory burden that ends up shutting their mines down. A rare-earth mine should be allowed to toss an inch of dirt on top of these tailings and call it good.
The economic impact of China beating the rest of the world to this technology isn't even on the radar at the moment. They're investing heavily while the West sleeps or gets bogged down with regulations. China will certainly get there first, and then they will not only have cheap energy, but technology to sell the rest of us.
God damn *NRC!* Because of their stupidity, this happen:
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@@jvanstyn Or better yet, Kirk Sorrenson should hurry up and get LFTR going so that he can make use of the stuff! I'm hoping he's still on track for 2027 for the 250MW-1000MW ...
@@jvanstyn
Thanks for your opinion.
we indian have lots of telent , thank God.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE LEADERSHIP .
we buy scrab technology ( bulet train) , that will 101 ℅ Failure project.. Diesater for indian. IS MY OPINION AFTER study📚✏.
Buying capacity of people is very LOW..
we need top patriotic dictator to rule for 20 years. 😂 5:16
The counter sound is worse than radiation sickness
daym rock, u scary
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I'd love to see thorium plants, running full tilt 24/7, any energy not consumed by the grid, would be consumed by turning co2 from the air with water into fuel (give them all current oil subsidies if needed). Easing the transistion and buying us time to get all electric vehicles with brilliant batteries. Hopefully getting us off fosil fuel entirely.
Also vehicles that batteries are not likely going to replace, possibly ever, ( large jets ) will still work and the fuel can be so cheap the cost of flying and cargo by air will be slashed.
All of our energy needs can, and should as soon as possible, and will be met using the thorium nuclear power cycle. With using thorium in a liquid fluoride thorium reactor, one can reach temperatures high enough to create hydrocarbon fuels.
With these hydrocarbon fuels you have your transportation fuels and have no need for electric vehicles; just burn the hydrocarbon fuels in the internal combustion engines of our ground based vehicles and turbine engines in our airplanes, just as we do now. The big difference isn't with the vehicles, it's with the fact that this becomes a carbon-neutral, closed fuel cycle of CO2 in the air taken out of the air and turned into hydrocarbon fuel that is then released back into the air as CO2 when used in transportation vehicles. It becomes a carbon-neutral closed loop, never increasing atmospheric CO2 and never having to mine anymore coal, frack rock for natural gas or drill for oil ever again. Also, we'll never have to purchase any oil from any unstable, evil countries.
Thorium: one truck of loar
Coal/fossil fuels: 100 trains EVERY DAY!
Don't fear "fossil fuels " -- nothing wrong with them --- what are they -- if they are "fossil" ? Just old jungle. / micro organisms -- CO2 trapped is a "mummy" from a time when CO2 was much higher and both plant and animal life were more abundant. CO2 = life ... you don't have do "buy " anytime -- unless you "buy into " the crock that CO2 will create a self generating acceleration of heat --- it will not. It has been much higher in the past. More CO2 = more plant life, more animal life & less death.
molten salt thorium fluoride reactors when
Would be interesting to see what has happened to the workers who dug this mine over the years after they left. Obviously the duration of staying there coupled with all the dust in the air will be of a totally different level of danger than just some people walking through a tunnel where already the air is moving through it (radon levels less of an issue).
Many of them lived long lives actually, some over 90. Many of my family members many generations back worked in the mines there, one of them fell down and died, so the other miners carved a cross in the stonewall at about 70 meters down. That shaft is called "Åse gruva" i believe.
Hold on, Thorium is 1-13 ppm so a kilometre would be a 1000 tons but we need 5"000-25'000 tons meaning 25 sq kilometres and a kilometre deep per year.
His measuring device said 2300/2600ppm..
Here is more information; the amount of Thorium from 5 cubic KMs per year, miscalculated.
@@GundamReviver
That is bullshit unless VERY concentrated.
@@robinhyperlord9053 I don't know man, I'm just saying what the guy in the video said, I'm no nuclear physisist (hell I had trouble spelling it)
What did they mine for in that mine? Not Thorium, because that is a by-product.
MSR reactors will give us a high standert of living for the whole world with clean energie
Either thorium or uranium
Electric cars. Electric Trucks. All Electric homes. No combustion pollution.
That sounds like Utopia. We can't have that can we?
@@superchuck3259 Well, what we’re doing is really making ourselves lazy by creating an easier way of doing things, that pay less money, while inflation goes up…… seems like a great strategy!
Thay dont say if thay are mesuring alpha or gamma if alpha what thorioum produce your skin will protect you
I believe its completely possible to build a multi core complex low energy thorium reactor and do so safely for the environment event in the event of catastrophic failure as to why no 1 wants i could've tell you
What was the purpose of the mine originally?
Thorium has a good fit ith molten salt reactors which have the fuel in the molten salt. The reactivity goes away when removed from the moderator.
Thorium is an exzellent fuel for nuclear plants. The biggest reserves are in Venezuela, 30% oft the world's supply.
This may be one of the reasons, why the USA want's do get hold oft that country.
Actually China wants it and the USA is keeping them at bay.
Arent their wast depositories storing consentrated thorium from Rear earth mines from from the last century?
There is a beach of thorium sand in India. At least according to tech for luddites.
Why did they mine there hundreds of years ago?
to get iron-dolomite
Alpha will hurt your lungs
This would probably require lead shielded mining bots.
No Thorium is a alpha radiation producer your skin thickness stops alpha radiation you can hold it in tour hand safely Scary hay Ron
Also, the thorium in this mine can stay in this mine, never to be used in nuclear power plants for over a million years. We can run our world for many thousands of years just on nuclear waste. Then we have the thorium from mine tailings from rare earth mines that will last us for millions of years, never having to mine for thorium for the sole purpose of mining thorium - ever.
What is the Radon levels in this mine?