Historically Balkan Penninsula (Balkanhalbinsel) was a term that German geographer Johann August Zeune (1778-1853) first used in 1808 for Ottoman European territories, named after a mountain chain in Serbia and Bulgaria which is named Stara Planina (Old Mountain) or Balkan (Turkish for a mountainous forested terrain, originaly named Haemus), because he thought that this mountains were all over the region, which is wrong. Balkan Penninsula is also wrong - it doesn't fit with scientific determinaton of a pennisula (wrong ratio between water and land borders). Balkan is in fact a geopolitical term, that is mostly obsolete, it doesn't reflect cultural, historical and geographical realities in their fullest, but only (past) political ones. To make everything short - Balkan is a very vague term that most of people wrongly use as a fixed defenition. Slovenia, for example, was never under the Ottoman rule and before the end of WW1 (and becoming part of Yugoslavia) was never thought of as a Balkan region. There are many diferent interpretations of Balkan borders, some include more countries (even Italy) and some less. Serbian geographers in times of Yugoslavia were using rivers Soča, Ljubljanica, Sava and Danube as the border of Balkan (this would make less than one third of Slovenia, or around 24%, a Balkan region) - their goal was to enlarge the borders of Balkan for unitarian purposes. These land borders are disputed with modern geographers, because they broke geographic convention of what a penninsula is. And lastly, there is no more Yugoslavia, with this fact the political resion for claiming that Slovenia is part of Balkan is also gone. The only argument that could remain is cultural, but Slovenia was for a large majority of time under the influence of Central Europe, especialy Germany, Austria and northern Italy not Byzantine (Eastern Roman) or Ottoman Empire. Slovenes are also not realy a South Slavic nation, we are a mix of West Slavs and South Slavs and Slovenian is not part of Serbo-Croatian language.
We are also not just a mix of slavs. Before the slavic migration, there were other tribes here and there is no evidence of them being wiped out. From the Illyrians to the south, Celts and Romans of Noricum and Pannonia, germanic tribes like the Langobards, Goths, etc. Everyone here from before and during the times of old Carantania, the frankish East Francia, mosaic of the HRE, Habsburg Austria, dual monarchy, and finally Yugoslavia and now independent Slovenia, more or less integrated into what is today this country and nation.
@@JaPakaj Well of course we are mixed, but we are still predominantly Slavic. When the Slavs came here the remaining population of romanized peoples and germanic tribes was quite low - Germanics moved on and the locals moved to the coasts + the plagues, wars, civil wars and economical ruin were reducing the population for a long time.
@@JaPakajNe seri z Iliri in Kelti. Preberi si zadnje raziskave najdišč na AC Novo mesto Brežice. Arheologi se čudijo, da v pred Romanskih pokopališčih ni Keltov in Ilirov, ali pa so zelo redki. Norikum pa je bil vedno slovenski. Keltov je bilo samo za vzorec. V Rimski imperij pa so vstopili sporazumno in ohranili svoje zakone. Ko so se Rimljani umaknili je nastala Karantanija. Prva "slovanska" država, ki je bila najbolj oddaljena od "pradomovine". Ali ni nekoliko veliko nelogičnosti? Pa pouzanimaj se kako Rezijanci štejejo. Njihovo štetje je bolj Keltsko, kot je katerokoli keltsko štetje v Evropi. Le kako, če pa so Kelti izginili s prihodom Rimljanov, "Slovani" pa prišli 500 let kasneje. Se je kakšen Druid skrival po Karniških Alpah?
@@sreckobucik2377 Slovenes not being Slavic? - Slavic language - this is already enough (infact overall the closest living language to the Old Slavic) and those who are doiing DNK investigations are telling us that Slovenes have the biggest amount of "Slavic" genes in South-Eastern Europe.
Awesome presentation. Did you know, that the oldest music instrument was found in Slovenia? Or that the oldest wooden wheel with an axe was found on the edge of capital Ljubljana? Thank you 🙏, more customised time with us🔥
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Great report! Just a note about a language part. Hungary does not speak slavic language, their language is of another origin, that is Finno-Ugric. Hope to help, take care.
Love your site. The only thing you missed was the horse farm. We stayed there in the hotel and in the morning we got to go to the stables and pet the young horses. In the afternoon we watch a pratice show. This was on of the best parts of this trip.
Slovenia is a land of gardens and orchards. It is one of the characteristics of Slovenians that everyone has a garden around their house with vegetables and fruit trees, which can easily provide for their family. There are also markets with local produce in all towns. Restaurants with vegan food as well.
@@techn0oOAt school, they never said that Slovenia is the Balkans and the culture is very different from the rest. Perhaps it is the Balkans, because many southern barbaric peoples immigrate to our homeland.
@@techn0oO - Only according to some newer maps, it is (or is not) a small part of southern Slovenia - geographically part of the Balkans, otherwise the border is the Kolpa river. Slovenia was "placed" in the Balkans only because of the common ex-Yugoslavia. Culturally, ethnologically and genetically, Slovenes have the most in common with Slovaks and the rest of Central Europe.
It would've been nice to know more about the churches there. Personally I'm more interested in visiting the Catholic churches there than the ones in Italy and Spain. I like the less popular destinations they seem more interesting, and they're more affordable.
unfortunately a lot of this information is not uploaded online by Slovenian sources. I can't even research about my whole village's history online; its history goes back to neolithic age and later it was a Roman settlement, yet I only know about this because my neighbors are archeologists and they have access to this in a members-only library.
Only issue is that Slovenia and Croatia … have never been Balkan Slavic yes not Balkan .. check your deep history on this ! Other than that a great video. In 2018, President of Croatia Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović stated that the use of the term "Western Balkans" should be avoided because it does not imply only a geographic area, but also negative connotations, and instead must be perceived as and called Southeast Europe because it is part of Europe.[37] Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek said of the definition,[38] This very alibi confronts us with the first of many paradoxes concerning Balkan: its geographic delimitation was never precise. It is as if one can never receive a definitive answer to the question, "Where does it begin?" For Serbs, it begins down there in Kosovo or Bosnia, and they defend the Christian civilization against this Europe's Other. For Croats, it begins with the Orthodox, despotic, Byzantine Serbia, against which Croatia defends the values of democratic Western civilization. For Slovenes, it begins with Croatia, and we Slovenes are the last outpost of the peaceful Mitteleuropa. For Italians and Austrians, it begins with Slovenia, where the reign of the Slavic hordes starts. For Germans, Austria itself, on account of its historic connections, is already tainted by Balkanic corruption and inefficiency. For some arrogant Frenchmen, Germany is associated with the Balkanian Eastern savagery-up to the extreme case of some conservative anti-European-Union Englishmen for whom, in an implicit way, it is ultimately the whole of continental Europe itself that functions as a kind of Balkan Turkish global empire with Brussels as the new Constantinople, the capricious despotic center threatening English freedom and sovereignty. So Balkan is always the Other: it lies somewhere else, always a little bit more to the southeast, with the paradox that, when we reach the very bottom of the Balkan peninsula, we again magically escape Balkan. Greece is no longer Balkan proper, but the cradle of our Western civilization.
Seems like you want to be informative, but you sound patronizing :) sorry, just an impression from my Slovene perspective.For example google Karantanija ..USA constitution is based on laws of our Karantania way before USA …
Slovenia isnt balkan. Its southern part of Kocevje can be classified as balkan otherwise its a central European country. Also, the police presence you mentioned isnt because of security but filling the state banks by DUI checks :D
So... When you got into the languages section. FUCK Slovenia is the only of all Yugo countries that wa s by default BILINGUAL!!! Also we speak German, English, Italian and many more! ❤
This is the most misguided thinking that Slovenia is a Balkan country because after the collapse of Austria-Hungary, Slovenia was assigned to Yugoslavia. Before that, it was part of the Holy Roman Empire for 1000 years, which other nations of former Yugoslavia were not. Slovenia is not a Balkan country either genetically or culturally. Slovenia has gone through all phases of Western European culture such as the Roman Empire, Gothic, Renaissance, Protestant Reformation, Enlightenment, Industrial Revolution and unfortunately also communism in the past century. It is a completely Alpine nation like Austrian or Bavarian, only it had this unfortunate Balkan occupation from 1918 to 1991. ua-cam.com/video/rrO4jHGkxFs/v-deo.html
Occupation? 😂😂😂 I have never read that it was an occupation, no British or American historian stated that in their historical books. Some alternative post-socialist Slovene interpretations we are facing here I guess. Actually, in Yugoslavia for the first time Slovenia got the autonomy, as well as cultural and political rights, especially in the second Yugoslavia... Before that, in Austrian Empire, "Slovenia" didn't exist, that region was actually quite a rural and marginalized area without the autonomy, political and cultural rights, and far from being economically important for the Empire. In Yugoslavia unfortunately they were too privileged and pampered, were some kind of VIP Republic. Today in the EU they have salary lower or similar as in Czech Republic or Estonia, not much higher than Poland, while their prices are higher than in Germany... and of course, in the current EU and its market they are totally unimportant, marginal and powerless.
ppp per capita what means also salaries is the highest among countries that you just mentioned so this regarding the prices isn't in fact true.and then of course not to mention other indexes such as hdi, ihdi, etc. where it is far ahead of any ex communist country@@withoutshadowww
@@Sindigo-ic6xq I don't question that Slovenia is doing better than the other post-socialist countries. What I question is that it was important or wealthy country before Yugoslavia... first of all, it was not a republic before (SFRJ) Yugoslavia... before that it was a rural suburb of Austria. I also say that Slovenia although doing better than the other post-socialist countries, nowadays actually it's doing slightly better than Czechia and Estonia, while during socialist times it was much ahead of any other socialist country in Europe. In addition, it's as expensive as Western Europe with salaries of Italy (or lower).
yes that is true however, ppp per capita means relative to the expenses so if you check it it is still ahead of all other mentioned countries and even italy I think. But yes I agree that before yugoslavia it wasn't important, and, also true that some other ex communist countries are close now financially but we will see since the economic growth has different speeds depending on the stage of its developement (what could very well mean that they will grow as fast as slovenia when they reach its economic level or maybe even slower because it is important to understand what fuels their growth)@@withoutshadowww
also would like to add that the gross salary in slovenia is a whole different world in comparison with the netand yet its net salary is higher from the rest. This also means that the pensions in slovenia are actually about two times (minimum pensions) higher than in czechia and estonia, and of course poland by far. The standard of living is on another level still, but we will see@@withoutshadowww
this is so fu bunch of informations that I could throw up Since when is Slovenia tiangel Ljubljana, Bled, Portorož. Please do come to Slovenia if you think that that's it. Not to mention wine regions on east or where we have most termal baths etc. Dude - please don't comment like that after 6 days in Slovenia - you have no F clue about culinary in our coutry and influences from others. You are just a classic usless traveler/visitor who heard about 3 things in Slovenia - goes there and over. Just like I'd say for Hungarian is Budapest and Balaton - F no. I really get mad when I hear all of that BS
You are correct. So much misinformation here. He should check his facts. Slovenia also did not decide to join Yugoslavia, it was decided by the Versailles Treaty. Poor video!!!!!!!!
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Historically Balkan Penninsula (Balkanhalbinsel) was a term that German geographer Johann August Zeune (1778-1853) first used in 1808 for Ottoman European territories, named after a mountain chain in Serbia and Bulgaria which is named Stara Planina (Old Mountain) or Balkan (Turkish for a mountainous forested terrain, originaly named Haemus), because he thought that this mountains were all over the region, which is wrong.
Balkan Penninsula is also wrong - it doesn't fit with scientific determinaton of a pennisula (wrong ratio between water and land borders). Balkan is in fact a geopolitical term, that is mostly obsolete, it doesn't reflect cultural, historical and geographical realities in their fullest, but only (past) political ones. To make everything short - Balkan is a very vague term that most of people wrongly use as a fixed defenition.
Slovenia, for example, was never under the Ottoman rule and before the end of WW1 (and becoming part of Yugoslavia) was never thought of as a Balkan region. There are many diferent interpretations of Balkan borders, some include more countries (even Italy) and some less.
Serbian geographers in times of Yugoslavia were using rivers Soča, Ljubljanica, Sava and Danube as the border of Balkan (this would make less than one third of Slovenia, or around 24%, a Balkan region) - their goal was to enlarge the borders of Balkan for unitarian purposes. These land borders are disputed with modern geographers, because they broke geographic convention of what a penninsula is.
And lastly, there is no more Yugoslavia, with this fact the political resion for claiming that Slovenia is part of Balkan is also gone. The only argument that could remain is cultural, but Slovenia was for a large majority of time under the influence of Central Europe, especialy Germany, Austria and northern Italy not Byzantine (Eastern Roman) or Ottoman Empire. Slovenes are also not realy a South Slavic nation, we are a mix of West Slavs and South Slavs and Slovenian is not part of Serbo-Croatian language.
We are also not just a mix of slavs. Before the slavic migration, there were other tribes here and there is no evidence of them being wiped out. From the Illyrians to the south, Celts and Romans of Noricum and Pannonia, germanic tribes like the Langobards, Goths, etc. Everyone here from before and during the times of old Carantania, the frankish East Francia, mosaic of the HRE, Habsburg Austria, dual monarchy, and finally Yugoslavia and now independent Slovenia, more or less integrated into what is today this country and nation.
@@JaPakaj Well of course we are mixed, but we are still predominantly Slavic. When the Slavs came here the remaining population of romanized peoples and germanic tribes was quite low - Germanics moved on and the locals moved to the coasts + the plagues, wars, civil wars and economical ruin were reducing the population for a long time.
@@JaPakajNe seri z Iliri in Kelti. Preberi si zadnje raziskave najdišč na AC Novo mesto Brežice. Arheologi se čudijo, da v pred Romanskih pokopališčih ni Keltov in Ilirov, ali pa so zelo redki. Norikum pa je bil vedno slovenski. Keltov je bilo samo za vzorec. V Rimski imperij pa so vstopili sporazumno in ohranili svoje zakone. Ko so se Rimljani umaknili je nastala Karantanija. Prva "slovanska" država, ki je bila najbolj oddaljena od "pradomovine". Ali ni nekoliko veliko nelogičnosti? Pa pouzanimaj se kako Rezijanci štejejo. Njihovo štetje je bolj Keltsko, kot je katerokoli keltsko štetje v Evropi. Le kako, če pa so Kelti izginili s prihodom Rimljanov, "Slovani" pa prišli 500 let kasneje. Se je kakšen Druid skrival po Karniških Alpah?
@@valentintapata2268 But still not a Slavic tribe.. The majority of people are just Slavs and Balkans wanna be.. it's pity..
@@sreckobucik2377 Slovenes not being Slavic? - Slavic language - this is already enough (infact overall the closest living language to the Old Slavic) and those who are doiing DNK investigations are telling us that Slovenes have the biggest amount of "Slavic" genes in South-Eastern Europe.
Another very popular Slovenian dish is the Idrija Zlikrofi, which is basically dumplings with bacon and onions (sometimes potatoes or cheese
Awesome presentation. Did you know, that the oldest music instrument was found in Slovenia? Or that the oldest wooden wheel with an axe was found on the edge of capital Ljubljana? Thank you 🙏, more customised time with us🔥
Hey! Can you tell me about the climate during oct mid? Do I need heavy jackets?
Really cool vidéo!
great video content; very informative!
LOVE your channel. You deserve MANY more subscribers. Can you please do the occasional video summarizing your observations? Like top five destinations by a measure of your choice? Thanks!
Nice video!Can i get a bus to visit the Lake from the capital? And other destinations?
Yes, you can visit lakes Bled, Bohinj... by bus from Ljubljana.
Beautiful
Great report! Just a note about a language part. Hungary does not speak slavic language, their language is of another origin, that is Finno-Ugric. Hope to help, take care.
Interesting and informative! 😀
Any reason to equate homelessness with safety?
Love your site. The only thing you missed was the horse farm. We stayed there in the hotel and in the morning we got to go to the stables and pet the young horses. In the afternoon we watch a pratice show. This was on of the best parts of this trip.
Do they have any vegetables, salmon or lettuce? I do not eat meat or sweets.
We have all of that, a lot of vegetarian restaurants and also a lot of sea food.
Slovenia is a land of gardens and orchards.
It is one of the characteristics of Slovenians that everyone has a garden around their house with vegetables and fruit trees,
which can easily provide for their family.
There are also markets with local produce in all towns. Restaurants with vegan food as well.
What about flood there? Is there flood free region?
Slovenia isn's balkan😥
i'm from Slovenia
@@thesecretsofmyhamster5016 then you need to learn your geography again, my friend. i am also slovene and it most defenetly is balkan
@@techn0oOAt school, they never said that Slovenia is the Balkans and the culture is very different from the rest. Perhaps it is the Balkans, because many southern barbaric peoples immigrate to our homeland.
@@techn0oO - Only according to some newer maps, it is (or is not) a small part of southern Slovenia - geographically part of the Balkans, otherwise the border is the Kolpa river. Slovenia was "placed" in the Balkans only because of the common ex-Yugoslavia.
Culturally, ethnologically and genetically, Slovenes have the most in common with Slovaks and the rest of Central Europe.
What country should I do next?
Montenegro
Palestine
You mean South East Central Europen state, rather than North West Balkan state...?
It would've been nice to know more about the churches there. Personally I'm more interested in visiting the Catholic churches there than the ones in Italy and Spain. I like the less popular destinations they seem more interesting, and they're more affordable.
unfortunately a lot of this information is not uploaded online by Slovenian sources. I can't even research about my whole village's history online; its history goes back to neolithic age and later it was a Roman settlement, yet I only know about this because my neighbors are archeologists and they have access to this in a members-only library.
I thought I saw this country on the map near Czechoslovakia and Austria somewhere
do you have a favorite yet? or too hard to choose?
You also have to pass a border!
As many already stated - not a Balkan state!
Only issue is that Slovenia and Croatia … have never been Balkan Slavic yes not Balkan .. check your deep history on this ! Other than that a great video.
In 2018, President of Croatia Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović stated that the use of the term "Western Balkans" should be avoided because it does not imply only a geographic area, but also negative connotations, and instead must be perceived as and called Southeast Europe because it is part of Europe.[37]
Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek said of the definition,[38]
This very alibi confronts us with the first of many paradoxes concerning Balkan: its geographic delimitation was never precise. It is as if one can never receive a definitive answer to the question, "Where does it begin?" For Serbs, it begins down there in Kosovo or Bosnia, and they defend the Christian civilization against this Europe's Other. For Croats, it begins with the Orthodox, despotic, Byzantine Serbia, against which Croatia defends the values of democratic Western civilization. For Slovenes, it begins with Croatia, and we Slovenes are the last outpost of the peaceful Mitteleuropa. For Italians and Austrians, it begins with Slovenia, where the reign of the Slavic hordes starts. For Germans, Austria itself, on account of its historic connections, is already tainted by Balkanic corruption and inefficiency. For some arrogant Frenchmen, Germany is associated with the Balkanian Eastern savagery-up to the extreme case of some conservative anti-European-Union Englishmen for whom, in an implicit way, it is ultimately the whole of continental Europe itself that functions as a kind of Balkan Turkish global empire with Brussels as the new Constantinople, the capricious despotic center threatening English freedom and sovereignty. So Balkan is always the Other: it lies somewhere else, always a little bit more to the southeast, with the paradox that, when we reach the very bottom of the Balkan peninsula, we again magically escape Balkan. Greece is no longer Balkan proper, but the cradle of our Western civilization.
Seems like you want to be informative, but you sound patronizing :) sorry, just an impression from my Slovene perspective.For example google Karantanija ..USA constitution is based on laws of our Karantania way before USA …
From a Slovenian: a very concise, fair and well researched video, good job!
where did he get this map at 0.57? HAHHAHAH that is SO innacurate.
Still, Slovenia IS NOT Balkan state!
Depends on the definition, so it really doesn't matter :)
@@TheMateylok USA has Hawaii, that makes them predominately Oceania or what :):) hahaha
Who fucking cares
@@TheMateyllmao there is no definition of Balkan that includes Slovenia, čefurček
@@appleratpipeCalm down, austrijski konjušar.
Slovenia isnt balkan. Its southern part of Kocevje can be classified as balkan otherwise its a central European country. Also, the police presence you mentioned isnt because of security but filling the state banks by DUI checks :D
So... When you got into the languages section. FUCK Slovenia is the only of all Yugo countries that wa s by default BILINGUAL!!! Also we speak German, English, Italian and many more! ❤
This is the most misguided thinking that Slovenia is a Balkan country because after the collapse of Austria-Hungary, Slovenia was assigned to Yugoslavia. Before that, it was part of the Holy Roman Empire for 1000 years, which other nations of former Yugoslavia were not. Slovenia is not a Balkan country either genetically or culturally. Slovenia has gone through all phases of Western European culture such as the Roman Empire, Gothic, Renaissance, Protestant Reformation, Enlightenment, Industrial Revolution and unfortunately also communism in the past century. It is a completely Alpine nation like Austrian or Bavarian, only it had this unfortunate Balkan occupation from 1918 to 1991. ua-cam.com/video/rrO4jHGkxFs/v-deo.html
Occupation? 😂😂😂
I have never read that it was an occupation, no British or American historian stated that in their historical books. Some alternative post-socialist Slovene interpretations we are facing here I guess. Actually, in Yugoslavia for the first time Slovenia got the autonomy, as well as cultural and political rights, especially in the second Yugoslavia... Before that, in Austrian Empire, "Slovenia" didn't exist, that region was actually quite a rural and marginalized area without the autonomy, political and cultural rights, and far from being economically important for the Empire. In Yugoslavia unfortunately they were too privileged and pampered, were some kind of VIP Republic. Today in the EU they have salary lower or similar as in Czech Republic or Estonia, not much higher than Poland, while their prices are higher than in Germany... and of course, in the current EU and its market they are totally unimportant, marginal and powerless.
ppp per capita what means also salaries is the highest among countries that you just mentioned so this regarding the prices isn't in fact true.and then of course not to mention other indexes such as hdi, ihdi, etc. where it is far ahead of any ex communist country@@withoutshadowww
@@Sindigo-ic6xq I don't question that Slovenia is doing better than the other post-socialist countries. What I question is that it was important or wealthy country before Yugoslavia... first of all, it was not a republic before (SFRJ) Yugoslavia... before that it was a rural suburb of Austria. I also say that Slovenia although doing better than the other post-socialist countries, nowadays actually it's doing slightly better than Czechia and Estonia, while during socialist times it was much ahead of any other socialist country in Europe. In addition, it's as expensive as Western Europe with salaries of Italy (or lower).
yes that is true however, ppp per capita means relative to the expenses so if you check it it is still ahead of all other mentioned countries and even italy I think. But yes I agree that before yugoslavia it wasn't important, and, also true that some other ex communist countries are close now financially but we will see since the economic growth has different speeds depending on the stage of its developement (what could very well mean that they will grow as fast as slovenia when they reach its economic level or maybe even slower because it is important to understand what fuels their growth)@@withoutshadowww
also would like to add that the gross salary in slovenia is a whole different world in comparison with the netand yet its net salary is higher from the rest. This also means that the pensions in slovenia are actually about two times (minimum pensions) higher than in czechia and estonia, and of course poland by far. The standard of living is on another level still, but we will see@@withoutshadowww
Starts the video with "Slovenia is a... Balkan country" 👀🍿🍿🤣🤣🤣
hahah, this guy really "circled around" communism and made it sound great... I think I might go for it...Millennials!
never claimed to be a fan of communism.
Sorry always give grandma the honey
SLOVENIJA IS NOT BALKAN
Pick pocketing? WTF?
I heard maybe for 10 cases in my 55years what I leave here.
this is so fu bunch of informations that I could throw up
Since when is Slovenia tiangel Ljubljana, Bled, Portorož. Please do come to Slovenia if you think that that's it. Not to mention wine regions on east or where we have most termal baths etc.
Dude - please don't comment like that after 6 days in Slovenia - you have no F clue about culinary in our coutry and influences from others.
You are just a classic usless traveler/visitor who heard about 3 things in Slovenia - goes there and over.
Just like I'd say for Hungarian is Budapest and Balaton - F no. I really get mad when I hear all of that BS
can't be 'very unique'.
Your mother does NOT sound like that!!😊
hahahahahaha
Stop with that Balkan agenda!
WE ARE NOT BALKANS😡
Not Balkan
You are correct. So much misinformation here. He should check his facts. Slovenia also did not decide to join Yugoslavia, it was decided by the Versailles Treaty. Poor video!!!!!!!!