Homemade Waxwood vs Natural Fatwood

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  • @marksadventures2.8
    @marksadventures2.8 4 роки тому +13

    The natural fatwood burnt for 44 seconds
    Home made fatwood burnt for 28 seconds

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому +4

      Thanks for that buddy, I'll pin 📍 your post so people know 👍🏼

    • @jerichojoe307
      @jerichojoe307 Рік тому +2

      Kind of depends on preparation and the porosity of the wood. As well as the size of the wood. You're never going to get full permeation when using inch and a half thick balusters. Split it down into smaller sticks like the fatwood that people purchase at the hardware store and it will have deeper permeation. Also the wax temp is another Factor. I make my own wax wood and I actually put a weight on top of my sticks while they are in the molten wax. It weighs them down so that they get fully terminated and I allow them to soak until no bubbles or any longer coming out. I heat the wax pretty high so that it's at its lowest viscosity further enabling it to permeate the wood. (Try heating in a double boiler by the way. Heating wax on an open flame is asking for an accident if it reaches flashpoint.) With full permeation; I've had wax Woodburn just as long as fatwood and on one occasion even longer. My fully permeated waxwood also scraped a little easier and had finer curls and still ignites with a single spark even when wet. That doesn't take away from one utilizing fatwood. If you can find and process it yourself it's absolutely wonderful. But as far as buying it; I would always rather make waxwood cuz the wax is free-form old candles and so is the wood from waste wood on projects, or yard clean-up. Easy to make and free 🤷 another way one could increase permeation is to put it in a vacuum seal bag while they are still wet and vacuum seal. It will draw the oxygen out of the wood and allow the molten wax to fill the void. But that's just over kill in my opinion.

  • @mannihh5274
    @mannihh5274 6 місяців тому

    Quite interesting comparison, thanks for showing.
    I'm living in Northern Germany and don't have access to natural fatwood and didn't want to buy it from the U.S. either, so I made waxwood at home - it works really well. From my experience I can tell you that you had your lucky day - if wax is smoking and turns dark, it's just a hair away from self-ignition. Your stove was way too hot.
    Just like you I guess, the bubbles indicate moisture in the wood, which is boiled out - but that means, to the end the wood is filled with steam, not with wax. In order to draw a significant amount of wax into the wood, you have to remove your tray from the fire and let it cool down a bit, using a weight to keep the wood submerged. Afterwards I heated the waxwood with a heatgun and melted the excess wax.
    To save as much space as possible, I 'boiled' some small pencils in wax too for my Altoids-type mini survival kits. Using a pencil sharpener to create nice even shavings, they work like a charm, a pile like yours burning for more than a minute.

  • @stefanbertasz4690
    @stefanbertasz4690 5 місяців тому +1

    You can also make trench candles. Roll up newspaper tightly into a pencil thickness or less. Tie a string around the center and submerge into melted wax. I've never tested with a ferro rod but they're great cheap fire extenders for bad weather.

  • @TheGuidedSharpeningGuide
    @TheGuidedSharpeningGuide 6 місяців тому +1

    I like natural fatwood. Where i live there are no pine trees to get it from but my local Walmart sales a 2 or 3 lb bag of fatwood in the grilling section for $6 US. Also i really like that ferro rod. The biggest problems with most ferro rods they come with a small handle or no handle. I buy the 6×1/2 just for the simple fact i can put a large handle on it and still have alot to strike.

  • @dash8465
    @dash8465 4 роки тому +19

    Alternative..
    Dry cedar, about 3 inches long, split into dime size sticks.
    Cheap tiki torch oil - find one without alcohol, burns too fast/evaporates.
    Soak wood in oil 24 hours, dry it, drop it into melted wax for a quick exterior seal so the oil stays put.
    Feather it on one end, it'll burn along its length.

    • @luannalovell
      @luannalovell 4 роки тому +2

      would you say this method is better because of weight?

  • @clearout5032
    @clearout5032 5 років тому +11

    Split the wood keep it inside for 1-2 weeks by a radiator if the Mrs doesn’t mind, this will stop the foaming as much & speed up the process, the blackening is the sap/water & c wax mixing at it’s burning temp as the wax floats on top of the water/sap! Great vid well done!

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому +3

      Thanks for the info bud - all info on this is great as it was the first time I've attempted waxwood (risky doing it on video I know)

  • @Hostile-Hondo
    @Hostile-Hondo 4 роки тому +10

    I buy a pack of popsicle sticks and cut them in half and do this same process I fill a Altoids (American mint candy) tin with them and pair it with clothes dryer lint and multiple mini cigarette lighters and some water proof matches and some birthday candles it's a pretty decent alternative to fatwood it'll keep you warm while you are out Savaging for natural fat wood

  • @zman92630
    @zman92630 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. I use an egg carton, cut up individual cups, pack dryer lint into a cup and drip some candle wax onto the lint. They ignite very well and the dense egg carton and wax hold flame long enough to ignite the kindling. Easy and quick to make.

  • @kongandbasses8732
    @kongandbasses8732 4 роки тому +3

    I soaked palette wood in cheap tiki torch petroleum (with citronella, they say) for 48 hours and sealed it with hot candle wax. Those work fine, I just cut some feathers and lite it with a ferro rod. I just use this stuff when I run out of natural fatwood.
    I'm gonna try out the wax sticks next time, it looks promising.

  • @davidkeil6225
    @davidkeil6225 4 роки тому +5

    Just a small tip, go to any thrift store and buy a used crock pot. It is much safer for this. I do this in my garage overnight in a Crock-Pot. It gets hot enough to boil water out of the wood. But not so hot it will catch fire.

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the tip

    • @davidkeil6225
      @davidkeil6225 4 роки тому +1

      @@WildernessAdventuresUK Wow, very impressed that you responded to a video as old as this one. Please understand no offense at all. Truly appreciate it. My comment was more for people who might read the comments. But yes. Used crock pots, also, sounds odd. But those warmers they make for coffee mugs that people use in the office. Both very safe ways to melt wax and use for heat you don't want to get out of control. Awesome video!

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому

      No offence taken at all buddy, i appreciate the tip as will others.
      I try to reply to all my comments... I've no excuse not to as the channel is only small, so I get limited messages a week.. If it ever grows beyond management, ie a few hundred a day, it'll be a different story.
      Thanks for the watch and the tip, I may keep my eyes peeled for a cheap crock 😉, to make a video on it.. 👍🏼

  • @mijdragonhill9803
    @mijdragonhill9803 3 роки тому +3

    I have been using fluff from the tumble drier with a bit of vasalene. Im going to try to find some fatwood on a walk today. Great video.

  • @LeMayJoseph
    @LeMayJoseph 3 роки тому +5

    It occurs to me that the tea lights are lovely for making fire starters using sawdust: Just melt the wax, fill the pan with sawdust to make a paste, then pack the past back into the tea light tins to make pucks!

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  3 роки тому +2

      Great idea. I will have to steal that idea and make a video later in the year

    • @LeMayJoseph
      @LeMayJoseph 3 роки тому +2

      @@WildernessAdventuresUK Excellent, I'd love a shout out in the video if you'd be so kind!

  • @akbychoice
    @akbychoice Рік тому +2

    I heat up Paraffin wax, paraffin oil and toilet bowl wax rings ( it’s a very sticky wax ) then cut up 6-8” long pieces of sisal, jute and cotton rope. Soak them in the melted mixture till no more bubbles come out. Pull out the rope pieces and let them drip into the pan. Lay on a silicone sheet to cool. You can cut off pieces or fray the ends as needed.

    • @dananorth895
      @dananorth895 11 місяців тому +1

      Basically beeswax with some kind of aditives to thin a bit and make sticky some it's self forming sealing.

  • @RaynarNslR
    @RaynarNslR 5 років тому +3

    Saw an American explain fat wood, didn’t know you could make your own. Thanks for the vid, very interesting especially the split screen. 👍

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому +4

      In my honest humble opinion, nothing beats fatwood, but this version is waterproof and a close second - so in my books it works and cheap too

  • @dancronin5513
    @dancronin5513 Рік тому +1

    Nice job. Would it help to get the material deeper into the wood if you drilled holes using very small drill bits? The "real" fat wood is all thru, not just on the surface?

  • @justnell6916
    @justnell6916 5 років тому +2

    Wev done it with cotton wool pads and work brilliant..but never thought you could use fat wood ..great vid

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому +2

      Thanks Nell, yeah it works OK to be fair, going to try cutting some down to pencil width and see how long the burn maybe for another video..

    • @justnell6916
      @justnell6916 5 років тому

      Wilderness Adventures UK (WA:UK) yeah il look forward to seeing that...all good info

  • @jghboyes5522
    @jghboyes5522 4 роки тому +3

    Have you considered soaking the dry wood (timber) in citronella lamp oil for at least 24 hours. This will penetrate your timber & "soak in" to some depth> It both as calorific value (more heat when ignited) & gives off a vapour cloud which insects hate. Then when the lamp oil has dried into the time, then candle wax the outside to further waterproof the timber.

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому +1

      Great idea bud, I may do that in a future video

    • @jghboyes5522
      @jghboyes5522 4 роки тому

      @@WildernessAdventuresUK You can buy the LOW alcohol version of this citronella lamp oil off Ebay in 1 litre bottles. Soak the time in large freezer bags for 24+ hours. Then dip coat the timber in hot wax to seal the oil in.

  • @Jungleland33
    @Jungleland33 Рік тому +3

    It might be safer to have the wax container in another water bath so that the flame won't ignite the fumes as easily.

  • @tonykomer2997
    @tonykomer2997 2 роки тому +1

    Fanwood traditional is found at tge center core of a conifer type tree trunk that aligns with the main tape root of the tree. It was pulled from fallen or cut down tree stumps. Branches unless large are not as thru and thru impregnated with the turpentine in the Pi e sap. It's most concentrated at the head of the tape root.

  • @gregoryknox4444
    @gregoryknox4444 Рік тому +1

    If you have saw dust you can mix sawdust and molten wax and form shapes to fit into your bag. Use a baggie to keep it separated in your rutsack or bag.

  • @gideonrrr2785
    @gideonrrr2785 2 роки тому

    Fantástico!!!!.... Que tiempo aproximado ha durado el proceso?.... Yo lo he intentado al baño María y no absorbe igual la. Parafina......
    Otra formularon es mezclar acido estérico, y, aceite de cocina usado...

  • @royvincent9250
    @royvincent9250 3 роки тому +2

    i think the frothing or bubbles is air being dissplaced by the hot wax not water

  • @williamstrome5271
    @williamstrome5271 4 роки тому +2

    i have lived in woodland camps for years at a time in different places where i am now i have an abundance of fat wood but i have also used cotton balls soaked in lamp oil now i use cotton balls with vasoline i pack them in a pill bottle wax is not necessary very compact light weight about 100 starts a bottle you must fluff them good to light well i have also taken the bottle and submerged it for an hour in water open fluff and works fine no water gets in if you use a good bottle

  • @hrbbdhdbdn2993
    @hrbbdhdbdn2993 Рік тому

    I've honestly never seen a piece of natural fat with that dry good job for finding one that had no resin

  • @chrismiller12341
    @chrismiller12341 5 років тому +5

    Balsa might hold a lot more wax being very porous. And it should shave down real easy also. I'll have to try that. You can get square 3 foot sticks at the craft store for $1. 🤔

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому +1

      Handy fact, thanks for the tip.. I'll have to use the ton I've made then I'll look into better woods for future wax Wood attempts

  • @sapper2497
    @sapper2497 4 роки тому +1

    What do for firestarters for my grill is. First I have cardboard egg cartons. In each egg compartment I stuff lint from my clothes drier. Then melt tea candles and pour over each lint filled egg compartment and let dry cut each square out and start my grill with. You could use cotton balls but I dont like to waste so I recycle what I have

  • @coconutBarnes
    @coconutBarnes Рік тому +2

    Size of wood too thick, you want the wax to soak thru not just etch into the surface.

  • @tommixup
    @tommixup Рік тому

    Good comparison test. I believe I will make some of my own fatwood now that I've seen your video. Still, I want to go into the piney woods soon and gather up some fatwood for the sake of getting out in the great outdoors.

  • @harrisquicksilver6595
    @harrisquicksilver6595 4 роки тому +4

    There is just something about the hunt for it , the smell of it & the amount of time good fatwood burns for that makes real fatwood the best of them all. Of course birch bark coming in a close second place. Thanks from nola to my brothers in the UK for the video. Peace to yall!

  • @outside-atlast9113
    @outside-atlast9113 4 роки тому

    I'm a smoker, so I always carry a lighter or mini torch. Thanks for the info.

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому

      When I'm camping I'll have around 3 different ways of making fire on me bud.. Fire steel/fero rod is always my go to.. lighter is great but can run out of gas or the flint can go.. so I always recommend a backup when out n about 😉

    • @outside-atlast9113
      @outside-atlast9113 4 роки тому

      Very true.

    • @outside-atlast9113
      @outside-atlast9113 4 роки тому

      I agree. Hope all is well and take care.

    • @outside-atlast9113
      @outside-atlast9113 4 роки тому

      It's perfect for a back up .

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому +1

      Great idea for a video tho buddy, contents of my little fire starting bag.. 👍🏼
      Hope you and yours are well too matee

  • @robinbursey3353
    @robinbursey3353 5 років тому +4

    What knife are you using? It’s a beauty!

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому +5

      It's a custom by Wessex Blades bud, this one is one of the Danelores.. Its insanely sharp one one of my prized possessions

    • @robinbursey3353
      @robinbursey3353 5 років тому +1

      Awesome! Also, great vid!

    • @WarrenKingDudeface
      @WarrenKingDudeface 4 роки тому

      Awesome video bud, I was gonna ask about the knife too. Very nice looking blade.

  • @dalriada842
    @dalriada842 2 роки тому +1

    How much did the knife cost? It looks a cracker! I see that the site isn't taking any orders due to a massive backlog. I expect it'll be more expensive when it is open for orders again.

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  2 роки тому

      It was expensive as it was a custom order, it toom 13 months to be made and was over £300

    • @dalriada842
      @dalriada842 2 роки тому

      @@WildernessAdventuresUK To be honest, it looks worth it. What kind of steel is the blade?

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  2 роки тому +1

      @@dalriada842 I can't remember the exact spec but it is the ball baring steel Scott uses

  • @carlpenney901
    @carlpenney901 2 роки тому +1

    Why don't you just use the tea lights as a starter?

  • @rebeccadees2300
    @rebeccadees2300 3 роки тому +1

    Can you use dry sticks/branches you find in your yard?

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  3 роки тому +1

      I think you may have to strip the outer bark off first - or split down slightly bigger ones to expose the grain of the wood

    • @rebeccadees2300
      @rebeccadees2300 3 роки тому

      @@WildernessAdventuresUK thank you.

  • @davidjohnston2115
    @davidjohnston2115 2 роки тому +1

    great video ill have to try it also i need better or more fire staters

    • @davidjohnston2115
      @davidjohnston2115 2 роки тому

      you are so welcome sir great video for sure thanks again sir nice video keep strong make more videos sir from the usa

  • @tonykomer2997
    @tonykomer2997 2 роки тому +1

    It's much cheaper to buy a block of candle wax then breaking down commercial candles lol

  • @thebowieman621
    @thebowieman621 3 роки тому

    Hey I'm American and I find this awesome great video brother

  • @deenunya7735
    @deenunya7735 5 років тому

    Good Intresting Vid , replicating Nature as it were, looked like homemade one has more intense Flame as you said you could feel the Heat, poss if theres Parrafin in the Candles Originally or Similar and 1st Natures own burnt longer but may have had more in the Pile , always handy to keep in the Homemade in the Fire Kit of your Bug Out Gear👍
    And you only said "To be Fair " once ☺

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому +1

      Was enjoyable one to make that one - to be fair 🤣🤣
      Even after 18 months I still get nervous in front of the camera.. Its crazy, I hope it wears off!

    • @deenunya7735
      @deenunya7735 5 років тому

      @@WildernessAdventuresUK Dont ever get Concious that you Repeatedly kèep saying it ..I'll keep reminding you 😆

  • @darrenhamilton4491
    @darrenhamilton4491 5 років тому +1

    nice one spiro, seems to work well, I will stick to natural fat wood I just love the smell, good to have an alternative tho,

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому

      It's a great alternative, going to explore more pros and cons cos in my opinion natural is better!

  • @allenflud
    @allenflud 3 роки тому +1

    I argue that it is a pound store, sir. Is that not a pound cake pan? 😆 🤣 😂 😆 🤣

  • @mauromaciel6488
    @mauromaciel6488 4 роки тому +1

    Fiz o mesmo com vaselina sólida caseira, parafina com óleo vegetal e ficou muito bom.

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому

      So many different combinations can be used - paraffin is one i would like to try too

  • @GUARDIAN.13
    @GUARDIAN.13 6 місяців тому

    I just use beeswax and thin wood dowel rods. It penetrates fully quickly and it will fit in a pencil sharpener.

  • @bobbyoshields1703
    @bobbyoshields1703 3 роки тому

    Good to know thanks.

  • @gregeberhardt1711
    @gregeberhardt1711 7 місяців тому +1

    If you live in an area with no pine then it helps

  • @debstovervillarreal4348
    @debstovervillarreal4348 4 роки тому

    Excellent idea!

  • @clydegibbs969
    @clydegibbs969 Рік тому

    Would treated wood for outdoors work

  • @head4thehills256
    @head4thehills256 5 років тому

    Awesome.. I'll be making my own fat wood tomorrow 👍🏻
    Top Video dude 😁😁

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому

      Cheers buddy, was ace to make to be fair, bloody hot tho - completely the wrong day

  • @amymichael9208
    @amymichael9208 3 роки тому

    Great video.

  • @andykjohnsonjohnson7622
    @andykjohnsonjohnson7622 2 роки тому

    You well also notice the difference between, parrofine wax & bees wax .

  • @sheepdogoverwatch8770
    @sheepdogoverwatch8770 3 роки тому

    Great video! Just subscribed!

  • @gregoryjreed
    @gregoryjreed 3 роки тому

    What knife are you using?

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  3 роки тому

      I use a couple in the video, the main one is a Danelore made by wessex blades.. I do mention this in the video buddy 👍🏼

  • @garrybeard2031
    @garrybeard2031 5 років тому

    Great video fascinating to see it boil.and cheap well done WA:UK.👍🇬🇧🍺🤘

  • @mauriziobarbati9081
    @mauriziobarbati9081 Рік тому

    Quanti minuti devono stare nella c'era,prima di esseri pronti? Grazie

  • @outside-atlast9113
    @outside-atlast9113 4 роки тому

    Very true.

  • @jon6322
    @jon6322 3 роки тому

    Cool i started making batches of them for my wood stove few years back old fence posts work the best ive found easy to split

  • @natureisallpowerful
    @natureisallpowerful 2 роки тому

    I love messing about with stuff like this, Haha

  • @danietkissenle
    @danietkissenle 2 роки тому

    I do this with paraffin and Vaseline and I toast the wood before I fry it

  • @princeofdhump4321
    @princeofdhump4321 3 роки тому +1

    Great

  • @twenchtowers3894
    @twenchtowers3894 9 місяців тому

    I really fancy some chips now….😂

  • @michaeltaylor7025
    @michaeltaylor7025 2 роки тому

    Bees wax as paraffin. V. Paraffin. (manufactured wax)

  • @muzzermint895
    @muzzermint895 5 років тому

    hello mr spiro cool video didnt no you could make fat wood that way. cant see the link to the cotton wool and pj vid or it maybe me being silly. :)

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  5 років тому

      Hey buddy, nah man you ain't being silly that one's out next week bud.. If you want a sneak peak I can let you see it tho, it uploaded just not public at the mo

    • @muzzermint895
      @muzzermint895 5 років тому

      thank you but i can wait a week . make looking forward to something intresting more fun. but thanks. be safe and have fun

  • @anonymousperson4363
    @anonymousperson4363 2 роки тому

    No links available!

  • @TinmanTino
    @TinmanTino 3 роки тому

    i JUST WANT THE BEAUTIFUL DOG!

  • @mikeperth8027
    @mikeperth8027 4 роки тому +1

    Mate, there is _NO_ WA in pommie land.
    There is only one WA - *_WESTERN AUSTRALIA_*
    Hope ya get it right next time mate.

  • @BluBarron
    @BluBarron 4 роки тому +2

    Not sure which video you watched but the correct way to do that is to soak the wood in citronella oil and then wax them. Give that a shot and I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому +1

      Several people have suggested that buddy, for sure the next batch I will use that method.. thanks for watching

    • @BluBarron
      @BluBarron 4 роки тому

      Wilderness Adventures UK (WA:UK) I’d be curious to see the results. I’ve never used just wax. It may be that taking that step out still produces the same quality product. I don’t use that much as natural fatwood is readily available and I love the smell so I prefer it.

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому +1

      101% agree natural fatwood should be the 1st choice, not accessible to everyone so great to have options.. Now we have the base camp I have space to do a lot of experiments and testing

    • @BluBarron
      @BluBarron 4 роки тому

      Wilderness Adventures UK (WA:UK) I’d be happy to send you some fatwood from this side of the planet “US”. Do you have a PO Box? Message me an address and I’ll mail you some.

    • @WildernessAdventuresUK
      @WildernessAdventuresUK  4 роки тому

      Aww man that be ace I'm sure there's little to no difference, but I'd like to see a UK vs US fatwood comparison.. Unfortunately I don't have a po box.. If you hit me up on social media I'll ping you my actual address pal

  • @farhad_tulip
    @farhad_tulip 2 роки тому

    Thanks
    ممنونم عالی بود

  • @gracefulsledge2857
    @gracefulsledge2857 4 роки тому

    I would imagine it would be better to use a soft wood. So if you live in hardwood country you may need to be more selective.

  • @workdrone
    @workdrone 2 роки тому +1

    9:56
    If your paints bubbling your doing it wrong!
    11:40
    Don't believe a word about humans and their dogs looking alike.
    Purely coincidental

  • @forrestrichardson8891
    @forrestrichardson8891 4 роки тому

    cool

  • @stratblacknosugar.5125
    @stratblacknosugar.5125 Рік тому

    Fish n chips...

  • @kirkguidinger9679
    @kirkguidinger9679 9 днів тому

    Balasters

  • @tomsmith6094
    @tomsmith6094 9 місяців тому

    Natural fat wood It's better

  • @jeffmccrea9347
    @jeffmccrea9347 Рік тому

    AHHH, nothing like the smell of deep fried pine in the morning.