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КОМЕНТАРІ • 707

  • @sabrejoey
    @sabrejoey 2 роки тому +544

    It is easy to say "stay away" if you have the money... Buy cheap bike is better than not buying at all.

    • @jp0758
      @jp0758 Рік тому +82

      Exactly, people think everyone has thousands lying around to ride a damn mountain bike trail.

    • @pbfloyd13
      @pbfloyd13 Рік тому +40

      Buying a cheap bike is like buying a cheap car, it's fine but don't expect it to last.

    • @BrainEatPenguin
      @BrainEatPenguin Рік тому +18

      Safety issue

    • @jp0758
      @jp0758 Рік тому +14

      @@richyg3993 yea your right if you regularly ride. For people who do it once a year it’s not worth the money.

    • @richyg3993
      @richyg3993 Рік тому +2

      @@jp0758 that’s also true.

  • @PuReBlOoD3478
    @PuReBlOoD3478 2 роки тому +741

    Not everyone has 800 bucks to ride a bike.

    • @mathmanchris666
      @mathmanchris666 Рік тому +73

      true but if you are a true mountain biker these bikes, especially with rim brakes, are dangerous as if you are true mountain biker the rim brakes won't provide sufficient braking power when doing high speed decent, steep decent, terrian decent, or any type of decent at all. get at bare minimum disc brakes, preferably hydraulic but most bikes dont have them.

    • @aarontimm
      @aarontimm Рік тому +106

      ​@@mathmanchris666 I'd argue that people deep in the sport like that were never in the market for a Walmart bike

    • @Ghostyfrost9688
      @Ghostyfrost9688 Рік тому +53

      If you’re just riding casually these bikes are fine. If you’re going down literal mountains it’s dangerous to not have the right equipment

    • @melvincreddle1370
      @melvincreddle1370 Рік тому +31

      @@Ghostyfrost9688agreed 95 percent of Americans can use these bikes lol.. everyone not riding down mountain terrain lol hahhaha

    • @randyfroese4478
      @randyfroese4478 Рік тому

      Kijiji is your freind when buying good bikes

  • @mrmrlee
    @mrmrlee Рік тому +247

    V brakes are great and easy to adjust. No issues in over 45 years in the saddle.

    • @herbysuperfly3255
      @herbysuperfly3255 Рік тому +26

      V brakes were great 45 years ago! Welcome to the future.😊

    • @chicacherrycolalime
      @chicacherrycolalime Рік тому +11

      Hydraulic disk brakes are easier to set up and work 10x better

    • @teawapunihadfield5775
      @teawapunihadfield5775 Рік тому +19

      i agree with you i ride v brakes and its still holding up

    • @Chris-hall9080
      @Chris-hall9080 10 місяців тому +12

      I was skeptical using them on my 2kw bike project, but with good pads, they work amazingly well. I can even lock them up. I think it also depends on how good of a rider you are and how well you can feel out your bike’s limits

    • @simplegaming1830
      @simplegaming1830 8 місяців тому +4

      Yes its they're durable and great. With my 90s Giant mtb with Mavic rims and shimano V brakes

  • @JaayRiv
    @JaayRiv 11 місяців тому +20

    Lets be honest most people buying these bikes aren't going up and down mountains and hopping hills. Its just recreational fun. Parks, gravel roads, street riding stuff like that. I would probably still take it to a bike shop for a once over though.

  • @raceface_m2579
    @raceface_m2579 2 роки тому +203

    For the occasional users, they are affordable.

    • @quack9694
      @quack9694 2 роки тому +16

      They are oftentimes assembled poorly or dangerously. Affordable is good but cheap is not, these are cheap

    • @antreaskonstantinou8585
      @antreaskonstantinou8585 2 роки тому +10

      I have many friends who have bikes like these. As long as you stay on the pavement, the only problem you will have is the shitty shifting. But calling the mountainbikes is stupid and dangerous

    • @Tofusoldat
      @Tofusoldat Рік тому +2

      But still dangerous to ride.

    • @liljuz1981
      @liljuz1981 Рік тому +1

      or just inspect and service regularly. obviously cheaper bikes wear faster but if you stay on top of it theyre not so bad

    • @neilpatrickhairless
      @neilpatrickhairless Рік тому +4

      Anyone who expects Walmart to set a bike up ready to ride is dumb anyway. They cut open the box and attach the parts. These bikes are fine for 85% of the people who are riding them if they are actually set up properly. If you are taking 5 foot drops on one of these or running full blast down Saluda Grade or something and get hurt, you had it coming anyway

  • @zerotoinfmath
    @zerotoinfmath 11 місяців тому +132

    Department store bikes have one big benefit that no one mentioned. You don't need carry a five pound lock since no one wants to steal it.

    • @ElessarEstel
      @ElessarEstel 10 місяців тому

      Maybe not where you live. Grown ass men ride down the street on princess bikes they stole where I live

    • @itsyungbeast3499
      @itsyungbeast3499 9 місяців тому +20

      This was hilarious but yes they will. These guys see two wheels and a seat and they want it.

    • @jayjones5756
      @jayjones5756 9 місяців тому +5

      I figure that thieves have no respect or appreciation for what they’re stealing, so they wouldn’t know the difference.

    • @Anth230
      @Anth230 4 місяці тому +5

      Not true at all....😂 ...a bike is a bike. Its transportation. Doesn't matter if it's $250-2500. They will steal it ...

    • @Sparkent777
      @Sparkent777 3 місяці тому +1

      Good joke though 😂

  • @beatbox9985
    @beatbox9985 2 роки тому +383

    Just stay away from cheap bikes they still need tightening up too

    • @fredprime204
      @fredprime204 Рік тому +17

      I learned that the hard way today I didn’t even make it. 3 miles on my way to work.😂

    • @JohnDoe-bn5hp
      @JohnDoe-bn5hp Рік тому +1

      Yea I usually buy one in the box and assemble it myself

    • @Bleaxur
      @Bleaxur Рік тому +24

      hard to stay away from cheap bike if you're maybe, poor😱

    • @beatbox9985
      @beatbox9985 Рік тому +3

      @@Bleaxur buy a 2nd metal one of a ex poser or theif and service it yourself. Or just buy a escooter and give up 🤣

    • @Bleaxur
      @Bleaxur Рік тому

      @@beatbox9985 nah i'll just keep riding my no sus bike

  • @abosworth
    @abosworth 2 роки тому +114

    Nothing wrong with V Brakes, though at places like Walmart, they tend to be on the cheaper bikes. Back in the mid 90s, V Brakes were the best. I still have an old mountain bike with V Brakes and they work very well. They work better than the mechanical disc brakes I have on my gravel bike if I'm being honest. Lol

    • @wanida511
      @wanida511 2 роки тому +19

      Exactly. Quality v brakes are still good.

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 2 роки тому +4

      Cons of any rim brakes:
      If you bend the rim or it gets out of true you don't have properly working brakes.
      Easier to contaminate, rim wall eventually wearsndown the rims to failure eif used for years.
      But for a kids bike or bike it's fine. But I would not use v brakes now.
      Pros:
      easy to work on.

    • @Smeltz247
      @Smeltz247 2 роки тому +1

      You use to be able to buy bikes from department stores and they would be good. Now they have been relegated to kids toys at best and heaps of garbage at worst.

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 2 роки тому +2

      @@abosworth Your first sentence makes no sense, it's not technically sound. No you won't, as the disk is attached to the hub, and hub stays true. so unless you have loose cones or worn bearings, or loose axle, or rotor it self is bent you won't have that issue.
      But the second make sense, yes most disk brakes will perform worse than V brakes, as they require more force and only one pad can be adjusted, and you need to move the caliper to adjust them to get both pads in correct distance. this type of design is absurd. But mechanical disk brakes that are decent exist, where you can adjust each pad. There are good and bad brakes in all types, hydraulics too. I currently use hydraulic brakes.

    • @abosworth
      @abosworth 2 роки тому +1

      @Johannes Nilsen good point. Now that you mention that, I agree. I wasn't thinking it through properly so thank you for pointing that out. I'm not trying to crap on disc brakes. There are good mechanical disc brakes for sure but like you mention, the ones where you can only adjust one pad are ridiculous and a decent vbrake will outperform them. My gravel bike has Tektro mechanical disc brakes and they are abysmal and I'll be upgrading them in the near future. The 20 year old Shimano XT vbrakes on my old mountain bike have way better stopping power. I don't really use the brakes much on the gravel bike and they are good enough so I'll upgrade them when it's convenient.

  • @tnerbsg8134
    @tnerbsg8134 Рік тому +105

    I've raced BMX for 20 years, I can hold my own. Recently got into Mountain biking... it's pretty cool to take a $300 "cheap" bike and hammer the berms, clear ever jump, and beat up the "vets" on their $1500 bikes. Skill > bike.... remember that kids.

    • @BrainEatPenguin
      @BrainEatPenguin Рік тому +13

      I mean at a certain point having a cheap bike is a literal safety issue.

    • @melnichol25
      @melnichol25 Рік тому +4

      my mongoose fat tire bike rips the local trails. Bought for $50 and a case of beer. After a couple upgrades it rides great.
      Ways a ton though

    • @SebastianLong
      @SebastianLong 11 місяців тому +9

      You are not beating a vet on a pro bike with a $300 walmart mongoose. The vets didnt consider you a challenge enough to try, promise that.

    • @melnichol25
      @melnichol25 11 місяців тому +2

      @@SebastianLong Ok I'm definitely not racing them. Just there to have a good time

    • @aquilonianace4791
      @aquilonianace4791 11 місяців тому +4

      Try a BMX on MTB trails. They rule! You'll smoke any mountain bike. Just need front and rear brakes 100%

  • @tabascocat
    @tabascocat Рік тому +11

    Generalized statements without explanation do not educate nor guarantee accuracy. In 1995, I was ecstatic to upgrade from my center pull caliper brakes to the much more efficient V-6 brake. Today is certainly different. For headsets, both threaded & unthreaded can suffer equally from improper adjustment. However, the larger diameter threadless design is more robust for a mountain bike.
    At Walmart, a more important consideration is the overall build quality.

    • @devon12346
      @devon12346 2 місяці тому

      its not improper adjustment he's talking about its just threaded headsets are not upgradable no company makes threaded forks anymore

  • @deadpolymers3416
    @deadpolymers3416 Рік тому +10

    I actually like V brakes. If you're not going to be doing anything extreme, they are perfectly fine. And let's be real, if you're buying a bike at Wal Mart, odds are you're not going to be doing the type of riding in which disc brakes are required.

    • @merlinmage6012
      @merlinmage6012 4 місяці тому

      I agree something that dangerous you need tested equipement unless you want to end up fuzed with your bike and get hurt.

  • @johnmatsangos
    @johnmatsangos 4 місяці тому +11

    V brakes are absolutely fine for normal use. No professional rider is gonna use a Walmart bike. For the average person who just wants to ride to the park it's more than enough

  • @minnesotasteve
    @minnesotasteve Рік тому +13

    Honestly rom brakes or quill stem are fine, even a freewheel is fine. This will limit your options if you are trying to upgrade but they are workable. The main problem with those cheap bikes has always been lousy shifting. If you could get a shimano tourney or micro shift derailleur they’d be a decent buy. I’d also avoid rear suspension at that level, it ain’t worth it.

    • @KoenMtb
      @KoenMtb Рік тому +2

      You don’t need to buy a non rim brake bike. Just don’t get it from Walmart to make things clear.

  • @killzone0076
    @killzone0076 Місяць тому +2

    Think you missed the biggest problem is grip shifters. V brakes are perfectly fine

  • @aronfriesen2362
    @aronfriesen2362 2 роки тому +47

    Lol ok
    There's nothing wrong with those bikes for the average person

    • @Dizzykennedy378
      @Dizzykennedy378 11 місяців тому +4

      That’s where you’re wrong champ

    • @SonnyGTA
      @SonnyGTA 11 місяців тому

      @@Dizzykennedy378that’s where YOU’RE wrong, loser.

    • @SonnyGTA
      @SonnyGTA 11 місяців тому

      Precisely!!!

    • @LostClaw
      @LostClaw 7 місяців тому

      It’s only good for light trail riding. If you want to actually mountain bike get a 50$ pair of good shimano hydraulic discs

  • @jonmopar7917
    @jonmopar7917 7 місяців тому +3

    Rim brakes /v-brakes included won races for years. And they’re simple. Good rim-brakes will always outperform cheap mechanical discs. The best advice to first time buyers or those on a budget: Get a quality older second-hand bike…even vintage stuff will outperform new junk, and you can be proud of having quality.

  • @aquilonianace4791
    @aquilonianace4791 11 місяців тому +2

    Stay away from anything already assembled. Nothing wrong with quill stems or V brakes fod regular riding on the street.

  • @spilgrim8757
    @spilgrim8757 3 місяці тому +1

    V brakes and a quill stem are perfectly fine functional parts on a bike that costs $98 like the blue Huffy he showed. Maybe point out if $100 is all someone can afford, they might be better off looking for a used bike to get better quality.

    • @sirflappington2484
      @sirflappington2484 3 місяці тому

      V brakes work fine for casual stuff but having v brakes also means you can't upgrade to disk brakes, especially hydraulic disk brakes in the future. Also, quill stems are fine until you need to swap the fork and getting a mtb fork with a quill stem is going to be difficult.

  • @BrikzStudios
    @BrikzStudios 4 місяці тому +1

    At least with V brakes theyre easier to adjust, works just as good as disc brakes which still need to be replaced eventually too

    • @sirflappington2484
      @sirflappington2484 3 місяці тому

      The thing with V brake is they have poorer performance when wet or dirty, which on any dirt trail, there's going to be dirt and sometimes water. Also having the disk brake mounting points means you can upgrade to hydraulic disk brakes in the future which is a lot stronger than mechanical disk brakes or v brake.

  • @SuperSpreeGaming
    @SuperSpreeGaming Рік тому +5

    Nothing wrong with V brakes. My Specialized FSR has rear V brakes and disk brakes on the front. Stops on a dime. A real tip would be to not buy from Walmart. Go to your local shop and ask for advice. Most shops won’t try and sell you on a shit bike or upsell on something you can’t afford. Tell them your budget and they’ll make it happen.

  • @AGuyWhosBritish
    @AGuyWhosBritish 9 місяців тому +4

    I always buy them in box and make myself, can make sure everything is tight and correct. You can also just convert from a quill stem to a threadless one so not the end of the world tbh

  • @ZeroDarknezz
    @ZeroDarknezz 3 місяці тому +5

    Bro V-Brakes are great for alignment and they're reliable, wtf are u even saying?? Had 2 bikes with disk brakes and they both sucked ash.

  • @stefanutz1979
    @stefanutz1979 3 місяці тому

    I have a DHS bike for a year or too,and it's doing amazing,it gets the job done when we are talking about rough roads and surfaces. Suspension in the front and back also. Disc brakes. Mine is a 3x7,and im soon going to upgrade it. I recommend DHS bike if you are low on budget.

  • @luism644
    @luism644 4 місяці тому +2

    V brakes, quill stem, steel frame…
    Nothing wrong with these things. My bike is a steel frame, with cantilever brakes, and threaded fork/quill stem.
    While I do use a threadless stem adapter, everything is just as good as any other bike. Old-standard parts are abundant and cheap. They do the same job as the latest.
    I understand why you might want better brakes for safety, but never fully understood the threadless vs threaded argument for consumers. Once you know your ideal stem length and angle you’re more than likely sticking with the one that works for you (and that frame) and not changing often if at all.
    There are even some great threaded headsets out there.
    You might have an argument with bar compatibility but threadless stems are also not compatible with older narrow diameter stems, some of which are really cool.
    Get whatever bike you like or can afford

  • @inaheap7172
    @inaheap7172 3 місяці тому +5

    I don't get the V brake haters. I love mine. Love the center pull even better.

    • @showbizwisconsin8350
      @showbizwisconsin8350 3 місяці тому +2

      Hell yeah dude! I have a 90s era Trek with the cantilever style brakes and they have been rock solid.

  • @CutGrassGoFast
    @CutGrassGoFast 2 роки тому +5

    My friend had a Walmart mtb for about 3 years he gave it to me when he got a new one I’ve had it for about 2 years we both abused it about everyday with minor upgrades it is still great on trails Walmart bikes are good as long as you replace some things and keep it maintained

    • @MTBAlex
      @MTBAlex  2 роки тому +1

      Some are pretty good once upgraded

  • @bakedvikings
    @bakedvikings Рік тому +2

    Good vid
    Dont listen to the gatekeepers that say you have to pay more to not die. Ive ridden my mongoose ledge 3.5 for 4 years on some crazy tech and hard trails in 6 different states.
    These bikes (the ones he says have potential) have gotten better the last couple years. Great way to get into the sport and most are upgradable which will teach you your bike and needs from it so if/when you do upgrade you know what you are looking for. And they wont break your bank just getting into a sport you might not enjoy or stay in long enough to justify the prices.

  • @bryancruz9789
    @bryancruz9789 3 місяці тому +1

    My advice to anyone really wanting to get into mountain biking , buy a cheaper bike with potential like he said. That schwinn has a good frame , handlebars and headset and brakes , and upgrade the poorer quality parts as time goes on & you have the money to do so. Some of my bike builds have taken 4 years to complete, but you build a bond with the bike and you become proud of what it was to what it’s become.

  • @fintancostello_ok
    @fintancostello_ok Рік тому +7

    Mate never buy a Walmart bike unless the the kemp’s travail or the Ozark trail ridge

    • @ElessarEstel
      @ElessarEstel 10 місяців тому +1

      The ridge is a solid bike for sure.

    • @fintancostello_ok
      @fintancostello_ok 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ElessarEstel the sad thing is that it's better than my $750 trek marlin 5 😭

  • @petemc5070
    @petemc5070 7 місяців тому +1

    The brake and stem you dissed are both sound technologies.

  • @paulschmidtke425
    @paulschmidtke425 2 роки тому +12

    V brakes and quill stems ,all good imo

    • @densukeeromerick2002
      @densukeeromerick2002 2 роки тому +3

      For mtb with a big tyre rim brake is like not recommend for me i only recommend rim brake to road bike

    • @beatbox9985
      @beatbox9985 2 роки тому +3

      BMX ? lol most the time they dont even have them

  • @clanbooth
    @clanbooth Рік тому +16

    V brakes aren’t bad they are way more reliable than the conventional disc break

    • @AleksandarGoleminov
      @AleksandarGoleminov 10 місяців тому +4

      Bro are you actually serious

    • @ConrailSD80MAC
      @ConrailSD80MAC 8 місяців тому +3

      You should be a comedian! Super funny!

    • @AleksandarGoleminov
      @AleksandarGoleminov 8 місяців тому +1

      @@ConrailSD80MAC LMAO

    • @Anth230
      @Anth230 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ConrailSD80MACHes not wrong.

    • @merlinmage6012
      @merlinmage6012 4 місяці тому

      Yea theyre good for street and dirt trail mountoun roads etc but im guessing these guys mean top of the line mountain biking which makes no sense as i think many dont do mountain biking at that level.

  • @doormatt76
    @doormatt76 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m going to be honest for people getting in to mtb, if you are on a tight budget shop second hand spending your money on any Walmart bike is stupid

  • @Sparkent777
    @Sparkent777 3 місяці тому +1

    The huffy you said stay away from. 😂 I have one. Been riding it for a month and it’s been cool. Only on pavement though. I will be taking it on an off trail ride next week. I’ll tell you how it goes. Aye you do a giveaway for one of the “good” bikes. It’s a lot of us that want to have fun but just don’t have the ends.

  • @guitarlessonsnow3431
    @guitarlessonsnow3431 Рік тому +5

    Schwinn Boundary (if you add a rear wheel with a cassette) and Axum are good. Kent trouvaille is ok. Also, id stay away from full sus at that price point.

    • @iz_jordy
      @iz_jordy Рік тому +1

      Gave my boundary to my neighbor after the hurricane in fl, cause I thought I wasn’t ever gonna use it again. Couple months later now I’m going to buy another boundary or the Axum not sure yet.

    • @dexterlecter7289
      @dexterlecter7289 Рік тому +1

      Boundary’s geometry for a 29er is way better imo. I’ve ridden both and I’m a real 6’1 with shoes and the Axum has a larger feel to it and harder to jump and control. The boundary’s like handling a 27.5 mongoose ardor while being a 29 inch bike.

    • @AleksandarGoleminov
      @AleksandarGoleminov 10 місяців тому

      ​@@dexterlecter7289having to say "I'm a real over 6' tall person" just shows how much people love to lie about their height, even tho it's quite literally the first thing you see in real life lol.

  • @fryloc359
    @fryloc359 2 роки тому +4

    I tried out some Walmart bikes yesterday and the disk brakes sucked.

    • @MTBAlex
      @MTBAlex  2 роки тому +2

      Brake pads have to be bedded in 1st. And ofcourse, they need to be properly adjusted 1st

    • @N0D3X_Dubstep
      @N0D3X_Dubstep 13 днів тому

      probably not installed correctly

  • @Fajnybobr
    @Fajnybobr 3 місяці тому +1

    I started on walmart bikes with v brakes and grip shifters….

  • @huntfishexplore7636
    @huntfishexplore7636 Рік тому +8

    V brakes are perfect lmao

    • @SonnyGTA
      @SonnyGTA 11 місяців тому

      Why are you “laughing your ass off”? Did you skip your meds?

    • @AleksandarGoleminov
      @AleksandarGoleminov 10 місяців тому

      Went under biking for the first time in my life a couple months ago. Rode with a Orbea XC 2000s bike which for its time was nice. It had v brakes. And so I learnt, to not trust v brakes. Especially due to the fact that I lost a tooth, my body was covered in a shit ton of blood and broke my wrist. Gotta love the people in the comments that say they smoke the pro racers with their 10.000$ bike with their Walmart 50$ and a pack of beer fat tire bike.

    • @huntfishexplore7636
      @huntfishexplore7636 10 місяців тому +2

      @AleksandarGoleminov I could assemble any brakes improperly and they would fail. If you weren't on some sort of severe downhill course then your brakes weren't in good order. Either you or your bike mechanic sucks at fixing stuff

    • @AleksandarGoleminov
      @AleksandarGoleminov 10 місяців тому +1

      @@huntfishexplore7636 brother just accept v brakes were better left in the past, they almost didn't brake at all, they would become inutile in the rain and just weren't as good.

    • @Anth230
      @Anth230 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@AleksandarGoleminovYour generation doesn't know true hardcore biking.....and it was a $300 bike not a $50 bike. You are confusing two different comments from two different people.
      BMX riders are a different breed. They have serious skills in a 20"-26" bike with only rear brakes. They are small, fast, nimble bikes. With less parts than an overpriced over equipped "pro" mountain bike. They do fantastic on the trails.

  • @a_dog_with_sushi4250
    @a_dog_with_sushi4250 Місяць тому

    ANOTHER THING. from walmart, square taper bottom brackets with the caged bearings SUCK. if you want reliability go for sealed bottom bracket. they have them there for the exact same price.

  • @gagebenson7898
    @gagebenson7898 Рік тому +3

    That 24inch sidewinder is heavier than my Axum 29inch but I bought it for my brother and it’s just for regular riding around neighborhoods so weight doesn’t matter much

  • @Vintage.Mindset
    @Vintage.Mindset 5 місяців тому

    Look for the 1x drivetrain. 1 sprocket in the front with 7-9 in the rear. WM’s Ozark Trail Ridge is a prime example of a WM bike with potential. Make sure to double check every nut and bolt because the assemblers are NOT bike mechanics and are paid for quantity not quality.

  • @andrewrodriguez8492
    @andrewrodriguez8492 Рік тому +2

    Heres a good tip. I've noticed the bikes at Target are assembled way better than Walmart bikes. Same brands but assembled how they should be.

  • @jonzylka9474
    @jonzylka9474 3 місяці тому +1

    People buying bikes at Walmart are simply buying bikes for he or she or their kids to simply get out and ride a bike. Different breed of “riders” than those investing their money on quality bikes built for a purpose and meant to be ridden a different way.

  • @ddddur
    @ddddur 2 роки тому +8

    i prefer rim brakes. more stopping power from my experience

    • @idkdrew
      @idkdrew Рік тому +6

      They are good for street cruising, but if you’re flying downhill and there’s dirt and mud on your rim you’re screwed

    • @neilpatrickhairless
      @neilpatrickhairless Рік тому

      Rim brakes worked fine enough for two and a half decades on mountain bikes 90% of the people reading this still can't afford. Disc brakes are just more that can fail and have to be taken home or a shop to be fixed in most cases

    • @AleksandarGoleminov
      @AleksandarGoleminov 10 місяців тому +1

      Went under biking for the first time in my life a couple months ago. Rode with a Orbea XC 2000s bike which for its time was nice. It had v brakes. And so I learnt, to not trust v brakes. Especially due to the fact that I lost a tooth, my body was covered in a shit ton of blood and broke my wrist. Gotta love the people in the comments that say they smoke the pro racers with their 10.000$ bike with their Walmart 50$ and a pack of beer fat tire bike.

    • @Official_DumbTube_Commenter
      @Official_DumbTube_Commenter 4 місяці тому

      ​@@AleksandarGoleminovRepeat yourself much🙄

    • @AleksandarGoleminov
      @AleksandarGoleminov 4 місяці тому

      @@Official_DumbTube_Commenter what?

  • @LeaBrattle-parker-pp5sf
    @LeaBrattle-parker-pp5sf 2 місяці тому

    V-brakes that are well set up are way better than cheap mechanical disc brakes. The quill stem is also fine, yeah it's a pain when they start to work loose but they are strong enough for beginners

  • @randallmalcom5055
    @randallmalcom5055 11 місяців тому +3

    Nothing wrong with these bikes. I still run a bike with quill stems and cantilever brakes. Has run great since '97.

    • @N0D3X_Dubstep
      @N0D3X_Dubstep 13 днів тому

      The bikes are fine if your just wanna ride around the street or to use as a means of transportation but they wont be reliable on a mountain bike trail.

  • @volcom05345
    @volcom05345 4 місяці тому +1

    I have V brakes. Its an old Kona I built up. I do just fine on the trails.

  • @DanJanucik
    @DanJanucik 3 місяці тому +2

    What's wrong with the Ozark Trail Ridge?

  • @andrewshaw7857
    @andrewshaw7857 4 місяці тому

    Yes, True especially definitely go for disc brakes.

  • @allstate125
    @allstate125 9 днів тому

    V brakes are actually pretty powerful and easy to adjust.

  • @mattmorrison9379
    @mattmorrison9379 Рік тому +1

    The schwinn Axum is actually pretty good. The mongoose ardor is decent as well for casual riding on some dirt trails.

  • @micr0d0t97
    @micr0d0t97 2 місяці тому

    As long as you have quality v-breaks and you understand how to use them and adjust them there’s isn’t much difference to disk breaks. Same goes for disk breaks, if you don’t have a quality set of disk breaks and you don’t understand how to use and adjust them then you going to end up with the same problems.

  • @WB-ng7xk
    @WB-ng7xk 2 місяці тому

    V-brakes are as powerful as 160mm mechanical disc brakes, however disc brakes work better in all weather but they have brake pads that can cover that base as well, if you're doing steep downhill mountain bike riding, hydraulic disc brakes is a good choice, but everything else is accurate 👌

  • @summerys4326
    @summerys4326 2 роки тому +7

    Just stay away from non MTB stores

  • @PRH123
    @PRH123 2 місяці тому

    There's essentially nothing wrong with quill stems, they were on the best bikes not all that long ago. Nowadays yes they're used mostly on the cheapest bikes, so hard to find a replacement if you want to replace it. But it will work fine.

  • @gutzboy1
    @gutzboy1 Місяць тому

    Having a cheap bike is better than not having a bike. Unless a person is actually mountain biking on a trail or in a race, these bikes are okay for commuting and riding on a green belt or riding around town but the buyer should make sure the bike was correctly assembled by the store. It's a good idea to have a bike shop check out the bike.

  • @sceptical4961
    @sceptical4961 8 днів тому

    TBH, there are good v breaks, for example the shimano xtr series, not really budget but they do compare to disk breaks

  • @Bybamatx
    @Bybamatx 6 місяців тому

    My v-brake, quill stem, steel frame bikes treat us well. Disc brakes, electronic shifting, carbon frames... these kind of bikes is what I was raised on, and what we still ride. If my 240lb butt can beat on them, you can too. ✌️

  • @smb7647
    @smb7647 10 місяців тому +1

    Depends on what your doing with it, your not going to RedBull rampage with it more than once thats for sure but perfect for the weekend rider..definitely give it a good going over before hitting the trail, do not trust WallMart to assemble your bike correctly

  • @pascalbruyere7108
    @pascalbruyere7108 2 місяці тому +1

    You forgot to tell to avoid cheap full suspension.

  • @vividfiber6668
    @vividfiber6668 Рік тому

    The other one is an upland stinger. Bought mine for 7 at goodwill. It has amazing disc breaks, three gears up front and 6 in the back for a total of 18 combinations, the shimano shifters are also incredibly crisp and clean. The bike climbs hills very well. The cons of the bike are that it only has shocks on the front (however, they are very good and seem to make most offroad excursions a much more pleasant experience than a cruiser bike) and the steel frame is heavy as hell, and allthough this does help with energy retention it can be a little hard to get it to top speed. The seat leaves much to be desired. I would reccomend getting another seat.
    This bike can take you just about anywhere. This bike can turn detours that would take forever on foot (bad terrain) and make them a shortcut.

  • @___Bebo___
    @___Bebo___ 8 місяців тому

    V brakes have the strongest stopping force of any rim brake, and 1/4th inch steerer is fine. Yeah I wouldn't want to run either, but there is nothing wrong with either system.

  • @BobbyBasketballl
    @BobbyBasketballl 2 роки тому +3

    I have v brakes on my gravel bike and spare MTB. Nothing wrong with that type of brake and some argue that you even get similar stopping power with less weight. It's the quality that matters.
    Also there are a lot of amazing second hand bikes with QUILL (everything is a stem dude lol) stem and they can be easily converted to Threadless stem. I'm beginning to question your expertise

    • @francoseven4361
      @francoseven4361 2 роки тому +1

      Same thing I was thinking but then again he never said he is an expert.

    • @BobbyBasketballl
      @BobbyBasketballl 2 роки тому

      @@francoseven4361 true, I guess my issue is more the fact that he's discouraging the purchase of bikes that otherwise be perfect for any entry level rider or even expert. I like to see old bikes get a second life and you can get great second hand bikes with these specs.
      Even brand new Trek bike stores sell v brake for kids/teen bikes for road and mountain.

    • @noliemig
      @noliemig 2 роки тому

      @@BobbyBasketballl definitely not expert, anyone who rides more then twice a summer should get a higher quality bike

  • @neilpatrickhairless
    @neilpatrickhairless Рік тому

    Biggest issues with these type of entry level bikes are the suspension forks. Usually they are heavy grease packed spring deals with no travel and no real use. The air shocks on these aren't a whole lot better. (Often no bushings in them, thin metal yet still heavy). The stock chains are usually a link or two too long for the drivetrain which causes weird issues some people might think is a result of the derailleur or bottom bracket. They're not set up for hardcore trail riding and are more for the kid or adult who just blasts around the yard or a gravel pit. You can upgrade some of the stuff cheaply and easily but in a lot of cases its probably easier, better and cheaper in the long run just to buy a really nice used one and upgrade that later.

  • @mt.424
    @mt.424 2 роки тому +14

    Not everyone can afford the best

    • @JohnWick-lh9gn
      @JohnWick-lh9gn 2 роки тому +1

      True

    • @beatbox9985
      @beatbox9985 2 роки тому +3

      Find a bike 2nd hand aluminium beast from 10/15years ago with no cracks . Learn how to service everything. will last longer than any supermarket bike 100% and be 10x better.

    • @bogdanpali
      @bogdanpali 2 роки тому +3

      You don't have to buy the best. You can find a decent hardtail with a short stem, 100 mm fork, mech/hydro disk breaks and tubless ready tires from 400 €. Anyting less than that price it's only for a chill ride in the city. A good entry level bike is Rockrider St530. Here in Germany is 430 Euros.

    • @ravenblackwing7888
      @ravenblackwing7888 Рік тому

      Save up though. I just bought a $300 Mongoose and it didn’t work AT ALL. Just got my money back tonight. It was horrific.

    • @mylan3707
      @mylan3707 11 місяців тому

      just save up omg it's not rocket science

  • @Ilocano_guy
    @Ilocano_guy 2 місяці тому

    v brakes are stronger than disk brakes, it also has cooler temps than disk brakes

  • @loudogg4945
    @loudogg4945 4 місяці тому +1

    What’s wrong with the huffy??

  • @garygrinkevich6971
    @garygrinkevich6971 2 роки тому +10

    Thanks for sharing I got one from target once and the pedal sheared off on the first ride :/

    • @SugmaNatsu
      @SugmaNatsu 2 роки тому

      Damn
      How much did you get it for?

    • @garygrinkevich6971
      @garygrinkevich6971 2 роки тому

      @@SugmaNatsu I think it was like 180

    • @SugmaNatsu
      @SugmaNatsu 2 роки тому +2

      @@garygrinkevich6971
      That's quite the money for something that broke so easily

    • @garygrinkevich6971
      @garygrinkevich6971 2 роки тому

      @@SugmaNatsu hell yeah dude I'm a large person.

    • @beatbox9985
      @beatbox9985 Рік тому

      Start at 180 just for your suspension 🤣💯

  • @Dansanan
    @Dansanan 5 місяців тому

    From what i have learned is not everybody has 1000 dollars to spend on a entry level bike but if you wait just a little bit longer and save just a little longer you can buy what you want.I ride a fully upgraded walmart bike worth around 800 dollors yet it still is not as good as a 500 dollor trek marin 5.

  • @austinstar1100
    @austinstar1100 2 місяці тому

    V brakes are a pain trying to figure out how to fix them on 3 bikes right now

  • @JA-gx4hb
    @JA-gx4hb 8 днів тому

    Had cantalever brakes on my Trek, upgraded to v-brakes. Both kinds were trouble free for close to 40 years, just changed the pads once in awhile. Finally got a fancy new bike with disc brakes, hate them. Constant rubbing, I've had to adjust them 5 times in 6 months, nothing but trouble. Don't really stop all that great.
    They also make it impossible to switch wheels if you happen to have some nice upgraded ones from a v-brake bike. Smart move by the manufacturers, they did a good job brainwashing people into believing they are a must have.

  • @AsfaldE
    @AsfaldE 2 місяці тому +1

    Sam pilgrim cycling on one of them : 🗿

  • @ChrisThePhoenix
    @ChrisThePhoenix 2 місяці тому

    I will say that bikes with V-brakes are frustrating to work on once problems begin to arise. Especially if the bikes are cheap.
    But you do you.

  • @AG-Consulting
    @AG-Consulting 11 місяців тому +1

    Stay away from any box store (walmart, target etc) when buying a Mountain Bike, bike shop or good used bike

  • @jaw0r924
    @jaw0r924 11 місяців тому

    the best cheap bikes are hardtails, cheap full suspension bikes are heavy and the dampers are squeaky

  • @gamewizz3433
    @gamewizz3433 Місяць тому

    If ur gonna buy a Walmart bike that u wanna keep for a long time, just get a specialized rockhopper its a 700$ bike and it will last forever but I will say, I have ridden my dads and it’s not the best feeling bike. Just spend the extra 300. And if your in the area go to Tj’s cycle works they have great deals and are so nice. I got a specialized fuse for 900 which is 100$ off and I got a free bottle. It’s a great store

  • @stateofdecay2210
    @stateofdecay2210 Місяць тому +1

    If you just riding your bike in your city and sometimes do some fun stuff with it any bike will do, but if you wanna do something series you should either buy a road bike, if you also do some outta town roads you need a gravel bike, if you wanna go do cycling in the jungle and mountain a hardtail mountain bike is sufficient, and if you really wanna go and try some rough terrain which is a bit serious a trial bike is what you need and at the end if you wanna do some touring going town to town or go to another state of province you need a touring bike, and at the end if you wanna go for world touring you need a very reliable touring bike, but you can also do all of that with and cross country bike or mountain bike, but if you don't go to dirt roads and rough train and only thing you care is speed then the areo race bike is for you ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @bigjohn2811
    @bigjohn2811 Рік тому +1

    You're kidding me? Stay away from junk. That last bike has full suspension that is total junk. Walmart should get rid of features like full suspension and disc brakes on their cheaper bikes. People should look for a better quality bike instead a bike with a bunch of junky features. Walmart should do more bikes like their front suspension Ozark mountain bike. It's on the pricier side for Walmart, but its actually a decent bike for the money.

  • @MM-yy9ib
    @MM-yy9ib Місяць тому

    I started on a toys r us bike years ago. Then I bought better bikes after. Last bike I bought was. Trek Marlin 6 Gen2.. For my type of riding that's all I need and. I do ride some crazy lines. Upgraded tires, grips, seat, pedals, and fork.
    Next, I'm looking into an ebike. The Aventon Ramblas looks good.
    Nothing wrong with these bikes. Buy what you can/want, and enjoy the ride.

  • @SupahBigg577
    @SupahBigg577 Рік тому +1

    Stay away from free-wheels, loose-bearing bottom brackets, cheap V-brakes and cheap crank sets.

  • @dogfrog9543
    @dogfrog9543 10 місяців тому

    Good advice for someone that want to ride off-road. Those cheaper ones are for people that want something that looks like a mountain bike but ride on the street. Also a derailleur hanger is a good idea if you plan to crash.

  • @loudfast1261
    @loudfast1261 2 місяці тому

    My 1995 93 singletrack, v brakes threaded headset and hardtail frame w no front shocks has hit trails from Vt to Fl w zero issues for 29 years. Id rather rebuild and customize than buy new these days.

  • @Merc-FPS
    @Merc-FPS Рік тому

    Ozark trails MTB is a beast. I own the vibe and it rides great for beginners and can do well with upgrades.
    Go for the vibe or ridge by ozark trails.

  • @signtrendz1
    @signtrendz1 7 місяців тому

    What do you recommend I buy between a full suspension Gary fisher level betty or Gary fisher front suspension only hoo koo e koo ??

  • @N.A.alchemist
    @N.A.alchemist 2 місяці тому

    But can you explain WHY we should avoid those things?

  • @michesemblante2843
    @michesemblante2843 Рік тому +1

    Hi what you will recommend for the budget bike for beginners for the price of 200$ thanks

    • @brentranke7528
      @brentranke7528 Рік тому

      A used name brand bike, like Gaint, Specialize, Cannondale, etc. It will have better parts than a Walmart bike and easier to find replacement parts to repair.

    • @Jackhalcott
      @Jackhalcott 2 місяці тому

      Save up more

    • @Jackhalcott
      @Jackhalcott 2 місяці тому

      Save up more probably spend around thousand on it

  • @skyborne6393
    @skyborne6393 2 місяці тому +1

    I hate v brakes. They snap so easily. 😂 Don't do anything crazy ok. Just casual ride and v brakes will be just fine ✌️

  • @derrickwillie4449
    @derrickwillie4449 6 місяців тому

    Hey bruh I bought a 29er at Walmart which got me started . If I hadn’t I wouldn’t have upgraded to a full suspension carbon bike.

  • @tobyggen1058
    @tobyggen1058 Рік тому +2

    I have that sidewinder he showed and so far the only complaint I have is that the rear break is a little soft but I can fix that no problem.

  • @kchilz32
    @kchilz32 2 місяці тому

    V brakes where very popular and sought after they are still good

  • @seal9737
    @seal9737 2 роки тому +2

    B brakes are fine but cheap bikes from Walmart and such aren't good for true mountain biking

  • @jameswo
    @jameswo Рік тому

    Disc in front and V-brake in rear ? Frankenstein brakes

  • @wakeup9523
    @wakeup9523 2 роки тому +2

    I have 3 mountain bike's from Walmart taken em on 10 mile rides , taken them on crazy trails with big jumps works like a charm you just gotta know what to look for

    • @MTBAlex
      @MTBAlex  2 роки тому +3

      Hand full of good ones and only lately

    • @idkdrew
      @idkdrew Рік тому +1

      The build quality and assembly is almost always horrible, but if you give it a once over and know how to work on Bikes they will survive.

  • @wow1574
    @wow1574 5 місяців тому

    I'll take cheap rim brakes over cheap disc brakes any day of the week. Tightened my friend's cheap disc brakes, didn't stop even half as fast as my rim brakes.

  • @Brantastic07
    @Brantastic07 Рік тому +4

    Get out of that wal-mart and go to your local bike shop. None of those bikes have potential

  • @GolemsYT
    @GolemsYT Рік тому +8

    Ride what you got 🤟

  • @bozobear69
    @bozobear69 2 місяці тому

    My dad said that these 200 dollar bikes so cheap that when its breaks he just gets me a new one 😂

  • @bread3353
    @bread3353 2 роки тому +22

    Just stay away from Walmart bikes simply

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 2 роки тому +1

      Atleast these ones. All is junk. Most parts are junk. And the suspension is fake.

    • @SonnyGTA
      @SonnyGTA 11 місяців тому

      @@mtbboy1993suspension is fake? So it’s not really there?

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 11 місяців тому

      @@SonnyGTA It does not have a damper, no adjustments at all, just springs and plastic caps. Yes the fork compresses( goes up and down) but the whole point of a suspension fork is to keep the front wheel to the ground, dampen both small and big hits, making the bike more stable, thus the rider safer and less fatigued. But this fork will just compress for a heavy rider if spring rate is too light and stay down or for a light get a super fast rebound, thus working as a pogo stick. So correct spring rate is needed, and minimum a damper, so adjustable rebound damping, coil spring for the rider weight. But a decent fork will cost as much as the whole bike. so at this price point a rigid fork is more predictable, safer.

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 11 місяців тому

      @@SonnyGTA In Norwegian this would be even more confusing as we call it damping fork, but this fork does not have any damping. Dempegaffel = damping + fork.

    • @mtbboy1993
      @mtbboy1993 11 місяців тому

      @@SonnyGTA I'm not against coil sprung forks, coil gives a plush feeling if the spring rate is correct. But for kids bikes where the child is gaining weight and size fast, air suspension is better. as it can be adjusted as the child grows thus gets heavier. But if you like a simple system and are an adult, got correct spring rate and don't mind the weight, you get benefits of less stiction, the coil feel, simpler to service. No seals to worry about on spring side at least. But coil like feel is feasible on advanced air suspension. But that will cost you maybe 17 or 20 bikes like this. I have an EXT ERA, and love it. but overkill for a just getting around bike.
      SR Suntour seems to do good for lower budget. For XC forks Rockshox are easiest to get second hand in Norway at least, same with FOX. I won't return to the creaking hell of Fox. SR Suntour apparently don't do that. For 26er bikes Rock shox seem to do fine. But mid to low end forks might have faulty seals. But once fixed they are decent. But reversed lock out is absurd, so locked out fork if remote fails. Old forks did not do that.

  • @xerxes4779
    @xerxes4779 8 місяців тому

    I don't understand why any hardcore mountain biker would buy a mtb from Walmart. The point of department store bikes is for those who go from A to B on bike.

  • @andrew6889-p5c
    @andrew6889-p5c 11 місяців тому

    Cheap quill stems do suck.
    I’m not at all convinced that cheap disc brakes are an upgrade to cheap v brakes.