Glad you corrected that 👀👀 I've just had to have the conversation with my 11 year old daughter on why it matters 🤣🤣 Great work and what an epic day we had at gravity yesterday too ✌️
OG. With these rolling races the pace cars on the left will always have the edge over the other because of thinking and reaction times. Would it not be fairer when you did these future runs keep it as is now and then swapped the cars positions over and repeat the race? It would be a much more balanced race then 🤔
Something went down on that because it lost so bad, i really thought the RS 500 coupe would win.. it has more things in it's favor less mass weight, -2 extra doors and it's got a better aerodynamic on the rear with that extra whale tale (+on top of that it is more valuable on resale value with those center lock BBS rims).. otherwise cool comparison..
@@poplaurentiu4148 It didnt have a proper reliable build and drivers reflexes though...if these were different , we would have a different result i believe also.
My most powerful cossie were 450 bhp. Absolutely loved tuning my cars, simple remap takes you over 500 these days on a 2 litre turbo. I were changing cams porting inlet ports, different injectors 3 bar map sensor etc etc. miss it dearly ❤
The real winner is Andy in the white Cosworth! Those RS500 launches were awesome to watch and hear someone full sending a 30+ year old piece of history but perhaps not the most practical. Andy in the RS conservative approach to a softer launch seemed to be the winning recipe in the drags. Another great video Jamie, top race!
I can remember being taken out in a Sierra Cosworth running 270bhp back in the 1980s I was blown away, how times have changed 270 bhp is not much power now days but back then it was the dogs goolies.
@@hardcoretamI hope you don’t complain when you ask for a pint of bitter in a pub and get a Panda shandy. It’s s big fundamental cock up to call a four door saloon a five door, especially for a car guy. 😂😂
@breathoffreshair7314 I live in the UK and have worked in the motor trade for 25 years trust me it's a 4 door for it to be a 5 door it would have to be a hatchback
It's 4 door saloon or 5 door hatchback. An XR4x4 for example would be a 5 door. The bootlid isn't classed as a door whereas on a hatchback it is. Know it's not exactly that important though.
Here in the US, Ford brought us these two in the form of the Merkur XR4Ti and the Scorpio. I had the XR4Ti and I loved that thing. So cool, so fast. My friend had a Z28 h/o and my little 4cyl stayed right beside him till we hit 100mph. The hand crank sun roof was the coolest thing to me.
Bloody Hell! My heart bleeds for the three door. He tried so hard. Bet that engine tuner gets a call next week😢 I'd still prefer to own the three door. A real slice of eighties design excess! ❤
That Rs500 wasnt wanting to play on the drags such a shame coz they launches where savage. Well matched race. Defo seen the difference in the gear changes which the cars positions. Be great to see a series 2 rs turbo battle with one of the cossies. OLD SKOOL LOVE
I’m just old enough to have seen the odd Sapphire Cosworth (and plenty of bogo Sierra’s) in the wild so I was routing for the 5-Door, it’s like seeing a familiar face from my younger days. Looks like the Cosworth needs a bit of finagling to keep it on full boost, I think they would have been absolutely inseparable otherwise. Fair play to both Andy’s; both cars are old, very valuable and yet they happily sent them at full chat 👌
Andy in the 5 door is a driver. As little traction los as possible on the launch and those shifts were on point. Sucks that the 3 door had issues. Might need to check the clutch switch. Might be getting stuck depressed which will keep launch control active.
The sapphire puts the power down on the road better than Sierra. Have driven both with 3 litre V6. Sapphire is well balanced car. Sierra is heavy on front, light on rear. Sapphire is perfectly balanced weight on both. I own 92 Ford Sapphire GLX 3.4 V6. It keeps the ppwer down on the road. Brilliant Cosworth races there. Love both cossies ❤ That Sierra send off on the launch is definitely legendary!
Two skool vetreans battling it out. If the 500 Cosworth sorts his top end power issue out, you need them back for a part 2. Great race's indeed. Put some respect on the name. (COSWORTH) is one of the cars that paved the way for street mods. Boy did Andy send the 500 off the line in them drags. You just know how to pick em Jamie, brother. The match ups are always on point. Respect bro
The sapph is hitting the 120 mph terminal speed I'd say is correct for a 480 hp Cossie that's soft launching. The 3dr unfortunately just as in the supra video is showing signs of boost leak/definetely down in the power.
Wonder what was causing the RS500 to bog down. Heat soak maybe, or ECU cutting fuel / power after the hard launch? Seemed to be pulling much stronger from the rolling start, than it did from the the standing start races.
Great video, enjoyed that. Don’t see many used properly anymore. Props to Mike at MAS Tuning for keeping these things out there ripping up the tarmac. 👌🏼😎
I owned that saph 15y back, bought it off an old couple it was super high miles for a cosworth 225k,completely standard ,tow bar for towing his Caterham to tracks. It was some kind of press car originally and had done something crazy like 100k in its first 2/3 years. £2000 i paid for it (was the only bidder on ebay)😂 How times have changed
Are they both running the same gearbox ? The RS500 seems to struggle on rolling gear changes like it's synchro is worn if you get where I'm coming from...yet he nails it on launch from standing start
Man, that video gave me goosebumps, it took me right back when I used to own a Moonstone blue 4x4 Saphire cozy sitting at 560bhp. Awesome. I like both cars but I dud want the Saphire to win... naybe a bit biast 😂
Proper driving there feeling the car when to shift how long to stay on throttle etc. Not that automatic all wheel drive 1000 hp bs, eating chips browsing your phone tying your shoes and being proud of how good of a driver you are
I would love to own either car. My first car was a Sierra 1.8l deathtrap that i gladly survived for six months until the MOT said, "STOP DRIVING THINS CAR!". it was a lot of fun being rear wheel drive, so throwing it around country lanes was a blast. These two old four pot gals have seen their day, but no driver can ever say they would not be proud to drive them.
I reckon the rs500 would've won if didn't lose power through 2nd or 3rd gear. Could've been the turbo like he said. I love the look of the rs500 out of these two, but still, they're both awesome cars. Glad people are still out there rocking the old school cars. Love it.
The 5 door for me as a family man, I was just about to own 1 a few years ago, until I was told it needed so much welding underneath and to stay away, I was gutted 👍
Total awesomeness (for their age 😂). I'd love to own a RS500, just cause its what the japanese aimed at beating, (not a VW or Bmw etc) when they created Godzilla!!
The gear changes on the older cars and the turbo means quite long periods off boost during races/acceleration.Killing the 100-200 times but man they are cool cars. Love them.
@@SincerelyYoursOfficial yeah an original T4 wasn't that good at spooling up. You could buy one with a roller bearing core in the later years and that helped but they never were as good abd responsive as you would hope.
@officially_gassed It was great to meet you at #Gravity Jamie. You really made my day and delt with my over excited fanboy gushing really well 😂. You were great with my son too so bonus points for that. All the best bruva 👊😎 (manuals for the win)
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4 Door* 😂
Glad you corrected that 👀👀 I've just had to have the conversation with my 11 year old daughter on why it matters 🤣🤣 Great work and what an epic day we had at gravity yesterday too ✌️
Haha. That was irritating me thanks for correcting
Just Call it a sapphire. 😂
OG. With these rolling races the pace cars on the left will always have the edge over the other because of thinking and reaction times. Would it not be fairer when you did these future runs keep it as is now and then swapped the cars positions over and repeat the race? It would be a much more balanced race then 🤔
@@Barry.ONeill as owners we call them Saphs
No school like the oldschool 👊
That's for sure fella 🎉 xxx
And I am the fxcking head master
Im the 100th like because your 100% correct.
Absolutely 100%
And the lotus carlton is the headmaster? 😁
The launches from that rs500 send a shiver down my spine. Just an old school top car, spinning its wheels looks the nuts , what a stunning car 👌🏽
Something went down on that because it lost so bad, i really thought the RS 500 coupe would win.. it has more things in it's favor less mass weight, -2 extra doors and it's got a better aerodynamic on the rear with that extra whale tale (+on top of that it is more valuable on resale value with those center lock BBS rims).. otherwise cool comparison..
@@poplaurentiu4148I fort the 2 door shell Wight s more not sure tho chood of still wun tho it's on other level :)
@@AAs-vb7pv wtf
@@poplaurentiu4148 Exactly !!! But, What went wrong ???
@@poplaurentiu4148 It didnt have a proper reliable build and drivers reflexes though...if these were different , we would have a different result i believe also.
My most powerful cossie were 450 bhp. Absolutely loved tuning my cars, simple remap takes you over 500 these days on a 2 litre turbo. I were changing cams porting inlet ports, different injectors 3 bar map sensor etc etc. miss it dearly ❤
Awesome was your 4x4 saff pete
@@chrisevans4759 what you doing here mate haha. Yeah miss them days bud
Gotta watch a yb ripping it up ain't ya
That 500 launch 👌
@@chrisevans4759 he drives it properly mate
Take a golf r , stage 2 = 400hp. Take a ttrs stage 2 = 560hp but is 2.5 inline 5
The real winner is Andy in the white Cosworth! Those RS500 launches were awesome to watch and hear someone full sending a 30+ year old piece of history but perhaps not the most practical. Andy in the RS conservative approach to a softer launch seemed to be the winning recipe in the drags. Another great video Jamie, top race!
The white Cosworth? They are both white..😂
@@k1ortiathey’re both called andy aswell lol but i guess theres only 1 RS500
@@SincerelyYoursOfficial Exactly...just say the guy in the 500 or the sapphire. But hey ho. No worries
@@k1ortia Wow, that has really gone straight over your head hasn't it?
@@SincerelyYoursOfficial gone over your head too? Wow
Yes Jamie with more Cossie action. But.... its a 4 door!
I was flippin shouting at screen, 4 door LOL them young 'uns eh?
@@paulanderson8796
No it’s 5 and 3 you count the boot lid that’s the old school way.
@@WIPEYOURLENZyou count it on a hatch but not on a saloon
@@WIPEYOURLENZnever heard a Sapphire Cosworth being called "5door".
4 door 😊
Out of all the cossies, the 6 door is my favourite 👀
😂😂😂😂😂 I’m bringing my 7 door RS507 😂😂😂
😆
Yeah I love an RS700 👌
I can remember being taken out in a Sierra Cosworth running 270bhp back in the 1980s I was blown away, how times have changed 270 bhp is not much power now days but back then it was the dogs goolies.
Power to weight. Modern cars weigh too much. 270hp In 1200ish kgs is quick.
The Sapphire ain't a 5 dr. it's a 4dr ffs !
Lol just left the same comment at virtually the same time as you. 😆
Try to enjoy the video and not get upset over pendatic details - Impossible difficulty.
@@hardcoretamI hope you don’t complain when you ask for a pint of bitter in a pub and get a Panda shandy. It’s s big fundamental cock up to call a four door saloon a five door, especially for a car guy. 😂😂
@@MIK23458 A few things. I don't drink alcohol. But if I did the pub mistake scenario would be directly impacting me. This one isn't impacting anyone.
@@Ex-Pear-Rocker He must have said 5dr. about 10 times, no big deal just wrong.
You need to do old school M5 against the iconic Lotus Carlton! That would be epic!
Love the Lotus Carlton! 👌
just got to find someone brave enough to send a Lotus Carlton first :)
M5 all day long !
You not going to get a Carlton get close to it !
@@shsh-he5qgcarlton would destroy any M5 up until the e60 came out
@@shsh-he5qg😂you mad
RS500 needs the Power to Weight recalculating with Big Andy in it.
cossies never made a 5 door J its a 4 door saloon
Was going to say the same 😂😂
Who cares ...😂
did anyone else get triggered when he called the Saphire a 5 door when it's a 4 door ?
A few...
@breathoffreshair7314 I live in the UK and have worked in the motor trade for 25 years trust me it's a 4 door for it to be a 5 door it would have to be a hatchback
I can not believe everyone is kicking off about this 😂 although I always thought it to be a 5 door as well
I've wanted one of these for decades. Fantastic. Great, friendly rivalry too. Well done boys.
Nice battle! The 5 door is actually a 4 door...😊
It was killing me Jamie saying that 😂
Errm the boot maybe.... 🤔
It's 4 door saloon or 5 door hatchback. An XR4x4 for example would be a 5 door. The bootlid isn't classed as a door whereas on a hatchback it is. Know it's not exactly that important though.
Those are 2 very clean running cars, You hardly see any fuel being dumped out the back. Both very well put together vehicles for sure
Here in the US, Ford brought us these two in the form of the Merkur XR4Ti and the Scorpio. I had the XR4Ti and I loved that thing. So cool, so fast. My friend had a Z28 h/o and my little 4cyl stayed right beside him till we hit 100mph. The hand crank sun roof was the coolest thing to me.
@breathoffreshair7314 If I implied it was a cossie, I did not mean that. I wish mine was though. ; )
FOUR DOOR!
Try getting in through the boot 😂
5 door 😂 sapphire is a 4 door and the 3 door ..well is a 3 door lol 😆
😂😂 so cringey
😂😂 made me laugh why the heck the cossie owners didn’t step in and say do you see another door on the sapphire boot lid 😂😂😂 legendary cars
Two beautiful motors and credit to the owners for pushing them to the max!
Haha yeah they both wasn't playing any games 😂
Bloody Hell! My heart bleeds for the three door. He tried so hard. Bet that engine tuner gets a call next week😢 I'd still prefer to own the three door. A real slice of eighties design excess! ❤
Stats-wise, youre not gonna get too many cars this closely matched. All in the driver skill
Lack of
That Rs500 wasnt wanting to play on the drags such a shame coz they launches where savage. Well matched race. Defo seen the difference in the gear changes which the cars positions. Be great to see a series 2 rs turbo battle with one of the cossies. OLD SKOOL LOVE
Still looking for the 5dr in the video 😂
4 door 😩😆
@@officially_gassed 😄
I’m just old enough to have seen the odd Sapphire Cosworth (and plenty of bogo Sierra’s) in the wild so I was routing for the 5-Door, it’s like seeing a familiar face from my younger days.
Looks like the Cosworth needs a bit of finagling to keep it on full boost, I think they would have been absolutely inseparable otherwise. Fair play to both Andy’s; both cars are old, very valuable and yet they happily sent them at full chat 👌
The 5 door cossie.. 😆 you mean 4 door mate.
Andy in the 5 door is a driver. As little traction los as possible on the launch and those shifts were on point. Sucks that the 3 door had issues. Might need to check the clutch switch. Might be getting stuck depressed which will keep launch control active.
It's a 4 door. Jamie was confusing me when he kept saying 5 door won.
Great battle! I’m new to watching these, how come you don’t switch the pace setting car on the rolling race so they both get a fair chance?
wondered that myself, pace car always a little ahead and got the hit every time
The sapphire puts the power down on the road better than Sierra. Have driven both with 3 litre V6. Sapphire is well balanced car. Sierra is heavy on front, light on rear. Sapphire is perfectly balanced weight on both. I own 92 Ford Sapphire GLX 3.4 V6. It keeps the ppwer down on the road. Brilliant Cosworth races there. Love both cossies ❤
That Sierra send off on the launch is definitely legendary!
Results aside, you know you’d take the 500 if you could drive one home. Epic video, thanks for sharing, Jamie 👊🏻
Never been a fan tbh always preferred the 5 doors
@@kylekaye9147each to their own bro. Both epic cars 👌🏻
5 door looks way better
Was hyped for this one. I had one pretty much exactly the same as the F reg 5 door, one of the best cars I had backing the 90's ❤👌🤙
That surprised me, thought the rs500 would take that. Can’t beat the sound of an old school turbo car and a whistling T4 👍
Two skool vetreans battling it out. If the 500 Cosworth sorts his top end power issue out, you need them back for a part 2. Great race's indeed. Put some respect on the name. (COSWORTH) is one of the cars that paved the way for street mods. Boy did Andy send the 500 off the line in them drags. You just know how to pick em Jamie, brother. The match ups are always on point. Respect bro
Its like watching my dream garage race!! 😉
This is the saff that was being built in your MAS feature video.
Mike has done a cracking job, it’s the spec & car is what I’ve always wanted.
I thought of you when I saw this
The sapph is hitting the 120 mph terminal speed I'd say is correct for a 480 hp Cossie that's soft launching.
The 3dr unfortunately just as in the supra video is showing signs of boost leak/definetely down in the power.
Wonder what was causing the RS500 to bog down. Heat soak maybe, or ECU cutting fuel / power after the hard launch? Seemed to be pulling much stronger from the rolling start, than it did from the the standing start races.
fuel starve. & a hippo driving
@@Jamie_4agethen along comes the adult with the mind of a child
The 3 door had a huge weight disadvantage. 🤣
3 door Andy's launch face is epic 😂 Both these cars are straight up nasty
Wow what a 5 door that is 🔥
Two classics from the 80s as a teen back then immense character.
This motivates me to Turbo my e30 😮 the 2 door cosworth needs short shifter ASAP
Great video, enjoyed that. Don’t see many used properly anymore. Props to Mike at MAS Tuning for keeping these things out there ripping up the tarmac. 👌🏼😎
really need to see Jamies time for the standing quarter Le Mans style using the 5th door on the saloon
RS500 disappoints yet again !
I owned that saph 15y back, bought it off an old couple it was super high miles for a cosworth 225k,completely standard ,tow bar for towing his Caterham to tracks.
It was some kind of press car originally and had done something crazy like 100k in its first 2/3 years.
£2000 i paid for it (was the only bidder on ebay)😂 How times have changed
Heavyweight vs middleweight ! Here the lighter driver wins! 😀😀😀
That was CosTastic!. It's amazing how 30yr old Ford's put down that power! Sick!. 😃 👍
Great video mate,the sapphire is 4 door 😂
Shame the 3 door was playing up, def would've won thew drags with the killer launches lol
I have a fiesta st180 at the min but the sierra rs cosworth 5 door is what I am saving up for love old school cars 👌🏿
There's no loser in this contest, both are epic cars.
Are they both running the same gearbox ? The RS500 seems to struggle on rolling gear changes like it's synchro is worn if you get where I'm coming from...yet he nails it on launch from standing start
He must be hitting boost cut as each gear change he loses so much momentum
Still both epic motors
Mans got some stones running that engine without a timing belt cover...........
Andy needs a clutch and a sycro man seems like theres a boost leak on the 500 much love ❤❤❤❤❤taking it waaaaaayyyy bacccllkkkkk
Let’s go champ ❤ back with a Sunday banger
Man, that video gave me goosebumps, it took me right back when I used to own a Moonstone blue 4x4 Saphire cozy sitting at 560bhp. Awesome. I like both cars but I dud want the Saphire to win... naybe a bit biast 😂
The BOV sound from both is amazing 🤩
That second wing on that 3door is a major drag...its not necessary in a drag race unless you are going for a "show and shine" event.
Proper driving there feeling the car when to shift how long to stay on throttle etc. Not that automatic all wheel drive 1000 hp bs, eating chips browsing your phone tying your shoes and being proud of how good of a driver you are
I don't think I've ever seen two cars almost exactly the same like this before it's literally down to gear changes and launchers
Finish line always cracks me up. Not a clue about cars 😂😂
I would love to own either car. My first car was a Sierra 1.8l deathtrap that i gladly survived for six months until the MOT said, "STOP DRIVING THINS CAR!". it was a lot of fun being rear wheel drive, so throwing it around country lanes was a blast. These two old four pot gals have seen their day, but no driver can ever say they would not be proud to drive them.
_RS500❤..wanted one so bad😍..great video Jamie👍🏼_
Both buzzin and not so buzzin about me being on next week 😬🤣
Epic video again today brother 👊🏼
I'd take the 3 door RS500 every time. The styling is iconic.
Slim Andy needs to be towing a caravan to ballance the weight up 😂
I reckon the rs500 would've won if didn't lose power through 2nd or 3rd gear. Could've been the turbo like he said.
I love the look of the rs500 out of these two, but still, they're both awesome cars. Glad people are still out there rocking the old school cars. Love it.
Yesssss been waiting a full week for this😂 ❤
Very good perfs !!!! Andy's Sierra is a 4x4 or not?
The 5 door for me as a family man, I was just about to own 1 a few years ago, until I was told it needed so much welding underneath and to stay away, I was gutted 👍
What Sapphire are you referring to throughout the video - was it the model name for Sierra in UK?
The turbo in the RS500 didn't sound very healthy?
Love some Sunday OG battles ❤
What are the disks on SIERRA RS called?
Gotta say Andy was definitely the better driver on the day!
Bro is out here doing legendary races love you mate ❤
Congratulations on being in love with another man you two thanks for letting everyone know on UA-cam
Can’t beat a well put together 5 door, great build
You mean 4 door
I love the 4 door saph it’s my favourite
5 doors the best imo
@@joshjack6127 4door 2 door
I wish I bought one of these back in the day as an investment worth so much 👍
Total awesomeness (for their age 😂).
I'd love to own a RS500, just cause its what the japanese aimed at beating, (not a VW or Bmw etc) when they created Godzilla!!
Great race, would love to see more manual oldskools 🔥
Jezus those pops and bangs caught me off guard! 😂
Cooling issues for the rs500?
Both proper drivers. Cant beat the old skool!
Just a by-the-by, have you seen the value of these babies nowadays!
Proper cars ....ya know ,like ones you have to drive ,or theyll put you in a ditch.🤣...nice one jamie top quality video yet again
What happened to the windscreen in the 500?
is the trunk and hatch counted as a door in the UK?
To truly understand how good those cosworths were back in the day you had to be a driver of other cars from their generation
slow ass manual gearboxes 😂
joking aside i love the cossies, both of them, neither of them got 5 doors though lol
His weight let him down bro 🙈🙈🙈🥰🥰🥰
Love watching the old school stuff, as my era 👍
The real winner is Andy, he’s sitting on an absolute gold mine if that’s a genuine rs500. Worth some coin that
Was rooting for you andy i the rs500 but you where plagued by a tech prob, get it sorted and come back again bro, mad send, dream cars
This is the kind of bsttles we need! Only thing letting that cossie down is the tyres
SAPH "4 DOOR" for the win
Sunday just got ok. The suff off dreams for me this line up bruv. 😎😎👊👊👍👍✌✌
Epic content that just blew me away, for arguments sake guys it’s a saph or sapphire not a 5 door 4 door more door ,,, a saph
The gear changes on the older cars and the turbo means quite long periods off boost during races/acceleration.Killing the 100-200 times but man they are cool cars. Love them.
Especially with the turbos cosworth put on them being notoriously big and having a well known lag because of it
@@SincerelyYoursOfficial yeah an original T4 wasn't that good at spooling up. You could buy one with a roller bearing core in the later years and that helped but they never were as good abd responsive as you would hope.
Best one to date 🤩🤩
@officially_gassed It was great to meet you at #Gravity Jamie. You really made my day and delt with my over excited fanboy gushing really well 😂. You were great with my son too so bonus points for that.
All the best bruva 👊😎 (manuals for the win)