Ed's Rokon Needs more than We Expected: the teardown
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While i was in Utah visiting Matts from matts offroad recovery I saw this awesome classic Rokon sitting next to the building, its a rare 2wd Antique motorcycle and I was told that it has not run in 45 years. Matt later asked if My team and I wanted to get it running for ed. Now we need to take it apart and figure out what needs to be replaced
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You finally realized what we’ve all known… Craig is truly the real star of Bikes and Beards. 😁
nice
I totally agree with this message
🔥😂
Hahaha
i think its a team effort, and they are a great team!
Incrediable detail, y’all are truly putting your hearts in this bike. Enjoying watching!
Glad you enjoy it!
Excellent attention to detail and making sure the Rokon is going to be in the best shape for Ed I can not wait to see the look on his face when all of this gets revealed and he can wheel both vehicles again. The smile on his face when he opened your Rokon up and ran away from matt following him was brilliant showed Eds personality so well have a blessed day
its going to be so much fun
I've been following the nugget across multiple channels, but just realized the rokon was getting done too from robbie doing the tank and I'm catching up.
Craig, I really liked the explanation of the springy clutch thingie. Like only using 4x4 in your truck on loose soil or slippery conditions. Never thought about it on a 2x2 bike!
Craig is the best part of the channel atm.
Thanks Craig
Can't wait o see Ed's face when he gets the Rokon and Golden Nugget back. I hope you guys will be there at the handover
we are hoping to be there
That is going to be a fantastic video!! Ed is such a great guy who has done so much in his life. I hope i get to do half as much stuff as he has.
When you're putting a tank on that has bottom bolts like that, make sure you have all the proper spacer washers and whatever you do, don't over tighten it. You'd be surprised how easily you can poke through your tank on an old bike like that. It happened to me once and I didn't crank that hard on it.
good to know thanks
The spring on the front drive shaft looks like a kind of one-way differential. Since the rear tire doesn't turn but the front one does, the front one may need to go faster than the rear, but it will never go slower. So the differential only allows the front to go faster, but never slower. That's cool.
It's an overrunning clutch
that thing is called a "spring-wrap clutch" ..... I know this because I researched 'em for a company I used to work for...they are VERY tough and are square in cross section! use no lube, this is a dry clutch and relies on friction, so the square cross section gives more surface area to grip the shaft like a dry python with great tensile strength and high wear resistance
On the Rokon's override clutch assembly it comes from the factory coated with an Anti-seize compound to prevent rust. A rusty spring will break and then you lose your front wheel drive. Its a real pain to tear the bike down to change that spring assembly so they added a keyhole access port under the seat so you can spray additional chain lube in the driveshaft housing to prevent rust from any water that may enter the tubular housing during wet operations. That was the first "warning" the dealer told me about when I bought mine in 1972 for my mining operation....don't let the spring get rusty or else. The upside is you would still have rear wheel drive to get back.
Just stumbled upon this video. At 73, I remember well the presentation of the Rokon in the early 60's. I remember less fondly that West Bend (Chrysler) engine as I had one on a mini bike about the same time. When rebuilding that engine make absolutley certain that you get the thickest head gasket available. My engine was setup for go-karting and came with a thin head gasket (higher compression). Pulling on that starter rope or trying to kick that engine over might be likened to starting a 441 Victor (BSA). The kick back was VERY unpleasant. Some of those engines even had a compression release, see if you can find and install one of those. Eight years ago I was given a motorized 'ski cycle' to restore. It also had a West Bend 820 engine with thicker head gasket and compression release. Starting that rig was much easier. Hope it all works out for you folks and ED. Take care.
You can fit one of the compression releases from a chainsaw if need be
You know, I found out about your channel through MORR (of course). As you know, Matt and crew as well as their fellow auto-truck centric UA-cam creators from the Utah area present their material wholesomely and with a family vibe. Which brings me to you, Shawn. To hear someone openly profess their Christian faith through Bible verses is refreshing considering where we seem to be at these days. To see them do it on UA-cam is awesome! Glad you're part of the 'family/faith' sphere of UA-cam content I tune in to decompress from an increasingly depressing overload of negativity and distastefulness. 👍and God bless!
I NEED A VAPOR HONE. Holy crap, that thing is incredible! Ed's build is looking epic so far! You guys are going above and beyond on The Nugget (as I like to call it), and I'm loving the progression. Also, what an ingenious drive system, just brilliant (however tractor-like) engineering. Thanks again for bringing us along this restoration, guys!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
I really enjoy your common sense approach to tackling an unfamiliar project. It's a voyage of discovery . Disassembling an old forgotten motorcycle is one of my joys in life.
My dad had one of these in '74, saw him flip it on a dune in Indiana lol. Awesome thing you guys are doing for Ed!!
Such a great project. Ed will be stoked when it's done!
You all are doing an amazing job on Ed's Rokon. Thank you for being there to help Matt and the crew, getting this done just for Ed he is a very special person in all of our lives! Thank you again and God-Bless.
My dad had a 1971 Trailbreaker looked a lot like this one. I was 14 at the time. We took that thing everywhere from elk hunting in the Bitterroot Mountains to me flipping it on its side shutting it off and floating irrigation canals jump shooting ducks. I can’t tell you how many handfuls of half moon keys I replaced on the drive sprocket ends over the years. Noted an Army ammo can on the tail rails just to carry all the tools you needed to keep the thing moving.
Dang, I wish I lived closer. I would love to help you restore this awesome bike. I’ve done several in my younger days and enjoyed every minute of it. I’m 63 now and simply don’t have the energy to do it by myself anymore. God Bless
It's amazing the horse power that engine has...
I build motorized beach cruisers for a hobby and I'm lucky to get 4hp with simple modifications and add ONS..
Great job guys,, can't wait to see the finished product...!!!!
ED will be proud...!!!!!
So super to see! Such respect for others is little these days. And for an old biker! Just love it! I for one can’t wait to see the miles of smiles Ed will have! 🙏❤️😎🤙
Just commenting to get you to a even 700! Ed won't know what to do with all his old toys going again! Great job and cool series!
So many parts to keep track of. I’m impressed.
dont be impressed yet, we need to put it back together first haha
@@BikesandBeards maybe that's the advantage of making a video record of the teardown.
Great Content, anything for Ed is good stuff.
Super glad to see a complete overhaul of the drivetrain on this old beauty. For a minute I thought you were just getting it up and running an calling it a day. Man of your words though. Completely Rebuilt it will be. Good job this far.
Our job was to restore it mechanically and that’s what we are trying to do
I really enjoyed seeing this video watching the tear down and fixing of the parts is a great thing for sure.
I respect how you guys make this a top priority for Ed that is awesome I know Ed will definitely love it.
Keep up the great work
Ed is a really cool guy
This video turned out really great, Craigs shop portion was extremely well done, great audio, great info, great host. That segment could be its own video. Really really good stuff guys.
Thank you again always enjoy watching and learning. Have blessed day.
Never knew I loved Rokons, never knew they even existed! Thanks guys!
It’s awesome the love and attention these old machines are getting sweeeettt!!!
If you can get those reeds to sing by blowing through them they still work good it just depends on loud your sound is coming through the block
Pretty new to the channel, loving it! I have a 1976 Rokon, so really learned a lot about the guts of my bike! I don’t ride mine as much as I’d like because every ride = a fouled plug. But in this series it’s mentioned you’re running 40:1, that may help. I also purchased a motorized wheelbarrow with the same power bee plant for a spare at a yard sale, but it’s such an awesome machine on its own that will never happen. It has 3 fwd gears and a reverse, can carry 1200lbs up a 30 degree slope!
What an awesome way to share the Word woven together with something cool like bikes.
I can't say it enough all you guys are doing a wonderful thing for ed he is a great person just like all you guys are and i watch all the channels great job guys
Thank you
Lovin' this crazy fam of Beards & Bikes + MORR, Mischief Maker & Robbie Layton!
I could watch episodes like this for hours! Thanks for the continued great content.
For the driveline clutch there is a fix to keep the two bosses together tight. Sometimes if the two bosses are not touching the spring can get pinched then all is done. Also I still recommend adding hydraulic brakes. There are kits for the front, or you can just make something from pit bike parts. There is also a way to add brakes to the rear miter box. It gets set up like the front.
Incredible details guys!! Well done
Lovin this series Shawn. I found a couple of these bikes forsale near me but the people want insane money I don’t have to get them. They don’t run and probably need everything ED’s bike needs plus some. Hopefully some day I’ll beable to get one. They are a really neat bike. You will have to give us a breakdown of what it cost to restore one at end of series.
I picked up a pretty nice newer one for $5k
Craig sure has an eye for the details! Love it
After a really bad day working on my XS Eleven, not able to get the parts in the UK and can't afford to get parts shipped from the US. This is just the video I needed to watch, to make me feel calm and happy again. Thanks guys.
Yamaha xs1100, what parts?
@@ianmangham4570 it's the pulsar pick ups. For a 79.
@@just-another-guy Pulse Generator pick ups 😂a pulsar is a spinning magnetic neutron star 😂🙏 haven't got one, ebay uk Germany closest i could see.
@@ianmangham4570 yep that's the puppy. I rest my case lol. I can get new ones. £140+ each. I love my XS, I have 2. One is a total basket case and I would gladly swap it for the pick ups to get Spyro running. Sadly though, the basket case is only about 50% there and no V5 and the VIN is way way way wrong lol
“Needs more than expected” the exasperated realization of every used bike buyer ever
hahaha why are we all so optimistic
One of the reasons my bike has been torn down since 2017...
Feels like massive waste of time but, as long as one enjoys the projects and doesn't mind burning some money, I guess it is worthy effort. Personally, I prefer buying new toys and spend time playing insted of fixing it. But, I can imagine feeling the sense of accomplishment when done and appreciate the skill that is required.
@@oknevals it is my first bike, i have bought a new one but it took 4yrs for me to be able to afford it. I have pretty much everything i need to get it up and running but now i work on the road.
Every time brother lol
I always wonder why people don't use Berryman Chem - dip and just soak the stuff overnight. Anything metal was like brand-new the next day. We used to use it in the shop all the time whenever I was doing that kind of thing. I never see it on UA-cam though.
I think you should reach out to ROKON and see if they might be willing to sponsor this. They likely could provide some new NOS parts.
This video shows the attention to detail that we all need to care about in our projects. Great perspectives we need more of
Craig, I really appreciate your skills. Thank you.
Ed’s gonna be so happy to get his old car and rokon back it’s amazing that y’all are doing this
I love how you throw in the bible versus! Keep up the good work! God Bless
Thanks for helping out with Ed's bike, I'm not into bikes to much but putting a wrench on any thing is interesting 👍 😀
nice thanks for watching
This has been very cool watching some many builders come together for the love and respect of this very special person of the older generation. Looking forward to the finish of the projects and especially the reveal. Hopefully you can all be there.
I really like the direction you're taking your channel ever since you took the risk and closed your dealership. Great work man, always look forward to your content
I raced this engine to a track championship in a sprint kart, they called it “820” class! A single cylinder, two stroke engine with a chromed bore, making it easy to catch cheaters! Hundreds of these motors were purchased to find the perfect port heights then were built into “blue printed” engines as nothing could be altered with its port heights and such. I lucked into purchasing one of these handpicked motors, marked with HP on the block! I was told these motors were originally used to power bilge pumps on ships!
Man, that drive system is really interesting. I was wondering how they dealt with uneven ground and wheel slippage.
3:45. The WORD ! Thank-you.
U guys are so awesome thank all of you for putting so much work n to Ed's bike can't wait to see it finished
There are specifically made roll pin punches with little nubs that locate on the hollow of the roll pin to keep it aligned as well as the punch being sized for specific roll pins. They work great.
Man thank you for reminding me I'm getting on Amazon right now
I love what you guys are doing for Ed.
Really enjoying this content. Been following Matt, Paul and recently Layton on this build series. You guys rock!!
Love seeing the details of the work being accomplished.
building for with a purpose u dont have this blessing any or every day he is at end life crazy as he was the bucket list u accomplishedis heart felt from me in mt. God Speed and stay in the blessings
New to the channel following the Nugget and Rokon build, Your contribution to the effort is much appreciated.
Thanks
A lot of parts in those housings. Great show and content. Keep em coming
Dope episode, Craig going into detail on stuff was cool
Awesome content guys, looking forward to the next chapter in this iconic bikes life 😎
I like your approach to your witness. I hear verbal affirmations of faith but rarely someone who actually quotes from the Bible in a more informal way. Thank You. I am a fan of those Utah crazy guys, Matts, Fab Rats, and Robbie. Checking out your channel because of yt recommended channel.
Hey Craig,I noticed a Gen 1 Yamaha Vmax engine behind you at your friends shop.I own an 86 Vmax.I love the work you and the other guy 🤣 are putting into Ed’s pride and joy.keep up the good work.
Fantastic breakdown, I have always wondered how Rokon's interaxle differential action was achieved, but never got anything but a guess. Perfectly explained.
You would be amazed to see how well Lemon Pledge works for cleaning old dirt and grease. I use it on my old BMW all the time.
Not a big bike fan, but I’ve been following the story with the golden nugget. Obviously Ed’s bike ties into it. However, it’s nice when followers of Christ make their presence known especially in UA-cam. You have earned yourself a subscriber.
Excellent work!
I use my Steam power washer with a degreaser reservoir attachment for cleaning everything. From old grease and emulsified oils in a horse trough. I gave my parts washer away after using the steam power washer 2 times.
I do have a steam cleaner. I should use that
Those motors were also used in many of the first Hurst hydraulic rescue tools, aka “Jaws of Life”. I’ve used several with those motors.
Nothing and I do mean Nothing will stop a Rokon. They will go anyplace you dream of. Not the fastest thing but just Unstoppable.
That is a neat looking motor.
one of your best videos. Craig is great to watch. a real master.
I fell asleep in the recliner last night with the TV on and for some reason I just think you should flex seal everything while singing the Time life Ultimate Rock ballads
ed would love that
Excellent work so far. I wonder what parts they are waiting for? I know that they want to get new tires, and the reconditioned gas tank.
I came to this channel through the nugget project via MORR. Yalls first video of the mini nugget surprised me with the Godly reference at the end. It was a pleasant surprise if I may add.
Romans 1:16, 17
Following the Build of Ed’s Nugget I have found some Really Cool new Channels to also Follow and I found Matt’s Off Road Recovery by accident a while back so it’s Cool how things work out
One of my favorite UA-cam Mechanics with the best first name on the planet, sadly, drives a unibody Honda Ridgeline.
This makes me want to go restore an old bike.
But I don't have a garage so I should just send it to you two.
just do it in your kitchen, who cares haha
@@BikesandBeards lol. I have a DR350 in my dining room that needs further assembly. 😳 To the OP, do it if it you must, but absolutely not as a "cost saving" measure. Save and buy the best availale candidate if you want a vintage bike.
Probably could have bought Ed a little 125 Cristini to get two wheel drive at less cost. But I get it. Where would the adventure be? Great show guys. I know all the players here but Bikes and Beards. Hope ya both show in Hurricane for meet and greet.
ACTUALLY, in a turn the Rear tire cuts the corner, makes a smaller radius IE: Travels a shorter distance than the front. Therefore Sprague type clutch allows the front tire to freewheel and STEER! UNLESS the rear tire loses traction then its 2wd! If there was no Sprague clutch- it would steer horribly bad.
Soooooooooooooo many parts................ Great Effort.
Thank you so much 😀
🙂 Stay strong . My best wishes from Greece
Came over to your channel following Ed's Rokon. Really liked the description of the cool drive train. Thank you so much for your valuable contribution. And thank you for the scripture quote. You are now one of my favorite channels!
LOL!! Craig saying he found another gear, made it sound like he found one out in the parking lot!! 😆😂🤣
Congrats BandB for taking ED"S RoKon bike apart and cleaning the heck out of it. lv ur videos.
make sure that slip joint in the shaft is working good, otherwise you will dump it in turns in the slick stuff.
Love your videos and content so keep up the good work chaps!
Could you please look into your frame rate or whatever’s up with the videos as yours is the only UA-cam channel I watch that gets very jerky!
Thanks guys 🇬🇧🇬🇧
It's hard to believe what all you've done to it. Great job hats off to you. I know for a fact Ed will like abs appreciate it. I have one just like it. And a little younger than Ed. Could we get numbers and addresses where to get parts? Cause I know I'm going to need some. I'll be happy just to make mine run. Thank you. I 👍👍👍👍
No one deserves this more than Ed. I am excited to see Ed's face.
No thank you. I Pass whatever it is to the next person
Sir Ed will be blessed by your efforts. God bless you
Interesting to watch you work on Ed's Rokon. It would help if you kept the music a bit more subtle. We're going along with no music, just talking, then it's blasting out the music, then back to soft talking. Turn the music down to about 1/4 of whatever you used for this video and it would be better.
53 years is a long time!
Rokon sells new fuel tanks but they are plastic and you need to weld a threded boss to the frame to mount it the old metal tanks are hard to find. I have had several of the old TAILBRAKERS good luck!!
Can’t stop watching the channel! Your the reason I got my motorcycle license! Now I just need a bike lol
Put an aquarium heater in the sump of your parts cleaner to make your gloves more flexible.
If you have trouble finding peace in mind with patience.. Remember you are doing what is already written in time. God test us in our weaknesses and strengthen.. As know that God granted me the cerenity to accept the things I cannot change and the courage to know the difference. Love the hard work. And thanks for sharing.
👍 Nice.... Can't wait to see the finished product! You guys are awesome!
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Us too!
New here I was presently surprised by the scripture . Great build for Ed
Looks like you guys are doing a fine job!! Nice work doing all the little detail things. Ed will be amazed!!!