You know if you had told me that in round 1, a matchup of LSV vs. SandyDog, that brainfreeze breach reanimator beat mono red, I would have congratulated LSV on 1-0
ITS ANJE'S RAVAGER WITH A STEEL CHAIR!! P.S. Anje's Ravager deserved being named in the title over fireblast on this one. P.P.S. Arena of Glory is the real nuts
Yeah I never thought much of Anje’s until some random control deck had it and drew like 15 cards vs me…and then I started trying it in my aggro red or boros decks and it’s been a banger
Hey LSV, at 42:50 I don't think you play scarlett or gut, I know it sucks, but being able to cast what you draw from the ravager is probably better than a 4 mana your opponent cant block considering they both get karakased. Looking at it afterwards you would have been able to drop DRC and carnage interpreter after combat.
I think you're undervaluing the power of Soul Guide Lantern in these types of decks and I've watched far too many of your videos to see many of your aggro decks get curb stomped by a reanimated fatty. I aggressively hunt for it and have no problem first picking. It becomes even more valuable when you have Gut, Bomba or Legion Extruder.
Didnt understand not picking it up either. If you go for the mono red agro strategy, the entire cube is filled with gas anyway. Especially if you're the only one.
I'm only at the beginning of pack 3, but I disagree with the library pick. It's a very strong card, but it basically does the opposite of what your deck wants to do, which is curve out, dump your whole hand using all your mana and beating down, before opponent gets to high mana and outvalues you. Yes it is good with cheap interaction, but more in a control style deck imo. I'm happy to get shown otherwise in the play portion of the video
I think you're way to all-in on imagining the "stay at 7 forever" plan for Library. If it draws 2 while we play cheap cards and then we give up to start playing 3 and 4 drops, that's still pretty great.
LOA is very matchup dependent - against slower decks it’s incredible, and in the right hand it can do good work. It’s also a risk to pass, and the opportunity cost of a colorless land is low. This isn’t the best library deck, but I think it’s unquestionably the right pick there.
@@LSVargas It totally is, but it's also on plan. Similarly, playing Grim Lavamancer just to get in for a few damage or force a removal spell or proactive play from Sandy seemed like the obvious move to me. Think about all of the matches you've lost because your opponent played mediocre spells on curve and KOed you before you drew into your combo. Like, with respect, I know you're an all-timer and are gonna win pretty much every game that comes down to high level plays. But it really does feel, when you're drafting aggro and zoo decks, like you're held back by being ashamed of counting to 20 like the rest of us. :)
i feel like you should mulligan more, I just can't see that match 1 game 1 hand winning unless you draw really well. maybe I mulligan too much though idk
I think he kept that hand in no small part because of the person he was playing against. Sandy drafts Mono White or Boros a good 75% of the time, and against a creature deck, LSV's hand is actually super good. It very nearly got him there too. And mulliganing that hand against anyone is kinda aggressive anyways.
I agree the keep was loose. Your deck is stacked with good one drops that are just dead cards in that hand. Like after turn 3-4 it was pretty clear LSV was drawing dead. The main question is what are you hoping to draw to make that hand playable? Even had LSV drawn nonlands, the one drops and burn spells look way worse when you aren’t applying early pressure.
@@finnpeterson4335 a close loss is still a loss, and he got bailed out by wheel of fortune giving him a new hand. a more aggressive draw probably would have won that game
The robber of the rich was about to exile the last card of LSV's library, so he would draw from an empty library and lose at the start of turn. The turn before that, the one ring protection was online.
I could be wrong. However, drafting your own cube so often and drafting it in a team environment may be negatively affecting your draft outcomes in the MTGO vintage cube. _Only_ drafting the MTGO cube would not be ideal, however drafting it more often than your own cube would be beneficial.
Luis, I've been watching your videos for 15 years, and I would say you don't mulligan enough. In particular, in game 2, I think you had to have a tempo advantage, but you didn't have plays until turn 3. Wouldn't it be advisable to mulligan in that situation?
i could not believe you were so concerned that ravager might not wheel. it's maybe the worst card in the cube. "someone might hate draft it" no they won't!!! haha
It's weird but that doesn't quite work. The -x/-x to kill indestructible creatures only works when their toughness becomes 0. It doesn't matter if they've been dealt damage or not, they can't be destroyed by damage.
@@mattwilliamsonguitar from my experience it does work it's not dying to damage. It takes five from lelia then effectively goes down to five toughness so dismember puts it to 0 killing it, I did something similar to a toski on arena once
@@mattwilliamsonguitar Arena and MTGO clients show damage after combat differently. Arena visually lowers their toughness after combat damage, but as you'll see on MTGO, the toughness never goes down. On MTGO Ulamog will have a red -5 indicator, but it'll still be a 10/10 after combat. Using Dismember post combat will lower it to a 5/5 and Ulamog is still indestructible regardless of prior combat damage. However I'm only 99% certain of this, so I'd love anyone to correct me.
So anyway, I started blasting
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But I don’t see so good
You know if you had told me that in round 1, a matchup of LSV vs. SandyDog, that brainfreeze breach reanimator beat mono red, I would have congratulated LSV on 1-0
You think you know a person.. that was a sick finish in g2 though.
Sometimes late at night, I get into my bathtub, and I cover myself in my set of power and think of LSV.
Make sure those things are double sleeved, wouldn't want to get them sticky.....
All three anje ravager enjoyers jumping with joy right now
ITS ANJE'S RAVAGER WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!
P.S. Anje's Ravager deserved being named in the title over fireblast on this one.
P.P.S. Arena of Glory is the real nuts
Real OG's know LSV used to force mono red in paper cube
Fact
LSV thinking someone might hate Anje's Ravager sent me.
Arena of glory is nuts. Take note how good it was this cube.
I guess Sandy drafted the LSV deck
And LSV drafted the Sandy deck basically
Nah sandy's deck had 2x power so clearly that's not an LSV deck.
although, from another perspective brainfreeze breach without LED or Lotus or Lotus Petal is the quintessential LSV deck.
damn, match 2 made me realize anje's ravager may actually be a vintage cube worthy card
Card's great, though I *kind of* understand the hate because it is so useless when it's in the wrong deck.
The payoff of hearing lsv complain about ravager after years is seeing him praise it for winning him games
Awesome draft! Haven't seen the ravanger or arena of glory do so much work
That first game probably the only time where a Grey Ogre might have better than something :D
I'm so happy for Gabby.... LSV makes that money win or lose 🙋♂️
The ending of round 1 game 1 was amazing
Yeah I never thought much of Anje’s until some random control deck had it and drew like 15 cards vs me…and then I started trying it in my aggro red or boros decks and it’s been a banger
Hmm should I be running Anje's Ravager in my cube? This league made me question my assumptions for sure.
Gotta say the team was on point with the Grim suggestion, It was miles better in the games.
Yes, I love sandydog!!! (And LSV, of course!)
Hey LSV, at 42:50 I don't think you play scarlett or gut, I know it sucks, but being able to cast what you draw from the ravager is probably better than a 4 mana your opponent cant block considering they both get karakased. Looking at it afterwards you would have been able to drop DRC and carnage interpreter after combat.
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I’m one of them
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DID WE GET THE TIE!? WHAT HAPPENED!?
No 😭
Round 2 game 2 was BRUTAL~!
Wet mono-red is a new one XD
How do you get into the cube server? I want to play more cube!
I think you're undervaluing the power of Soul Guide Lantern in these types of decks and I've watched far too many of your videos to see many of your aggro decks get curb stomped by a reanimated fatty. I aggressively hunt for it and have no problem first picking. It becomes even more valuable when you have Gut, Bomba or Legion Extruder.
Didnt understand not picking it up either. If you go for the mono red agro strategy, the entire cube is filled with gas anyway. Especially if you're the only one.
I'm only at the beginning of pack 3, but I disagree with the library pick. It's a very strong card, but it basically does the opposite of what your deck wants to do, which is curve out, dump your whole hand using all your mana and beating down, before opponent gets to high mana and outvalues you. Yes it is good with cheap interaction, but more in a control style deck imo. I'm happy to get shown otherwise in the play portion of the video
I think you're way to all-in on imagining the "stay at 7 forever" plan for Library. If it draws 2 while we play cheap cards and then we give up to start playing 3 and 4 drops, that's still pretty great.
@@alexanderdickens2517if it draws 1 card it’s still pretty great
LOA is very matchup dependent - against slower decks it’s incredible, and in the right hand it can do good work. It’s also a risk to pass, and the opportunity cost of a colorless land is low. This isn’t the best library deck, but I think it’s unquestionably the right pick there.
2nd pack looked like it hurt
Takes Lotus Petal over Bonecrusher Giant. "I'm not seeing any red cards"
Ya bonecrusher is extremely mediocre
@@LSVargas It totally is, but it's also on plan. Similarly, playing Grim Lavamancer just to get in for a few damage or force a removal spell or proactive play from Sandy seemed like the obvious move to me. Think about all of the matches you've lost because your opponent played mediocre spells on curve and KOed you before you drew into your combo.
Like, with respect, I know you're an all-timer and are gonna win pretty much every game that comes down to high level plays. But it really does feel, when you're drafting aggro and zoo decks, like you're held back by being ashamed of counting to 20 like the rest of us. :)
faithless looting would have been so good
Not really you need hard synergy like reanimator to make up for the card disadvantage
i feel like you should mulligan more, I just can't see that match 1 game 1 hand winning unless you draw really well. maybe I mulligan too much though idk
I think he kept that hand in no small part because of the person he was playing against. Sandy drafts Mono White or Boros a good 75% of the time, and against a creature deck, LSV's hand is actually super good. It very nearly got him there too. And mulliganing that hand against anyone is kinda aggressive anyways.
I agree the keep was loose. Your deck is stacked with good one drops that are just dead cards in that hand. Like after turn 3-4 it was pretty clear LSV was drawing dead.
The main question is what are you hoping to draw to make that hand playable? Even had LSV drawn nonlands, the one drops and burn spells look way worse when you aren’t applying early pressure.
@@finnpeterson4335 Totally agree, though the game 2 keep was sketch.
@@finnpeterson4335 a close loss is still a loss, and he got bailed out by wheel of fortune giving him a new hand. a more aggressive draw probably would have won that game
in Match 1 Game 1 couldn't you have attacked on your last turn with Glory Bringer and DRC to win?
The robber of the rich was about to exile the last card of LSV's library, so he would draw from an empty library and lose at the start of turn. The turn before that, the one ring protection was online.
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I could be wrong. However, drafting your own cube so often and drafting it in a team environment may be negatively affecting your draft outcomes in the MTGO vintage cube.
_Only_ drafting the MTGO cube would not be ideal, however drafting it more often than your own cube would be beneficial.
Yep, you are wrong: this is the MTGO cube. They haven't used his in months, it's out of date.
@@alexanderdickens2517 Qualifier pays off!
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Fireblast = No mana, kill you
Luis, I've been watching your videos for 15 years, and I would say you don't mulligan enough. In particular, in game 2, I think you had to have a tempo advantage, but you didn't have plays until turn 3. Wouldn't it be advisable to mulligan in that situation?
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i could not believe you were so concerned that ravager might not wheel. it's maybe the worst card in the cube. "someone might hate draft it" no they won't!!! haha
I think you could have killed Ulamog if you used dismember after damage
Ulamog is indestructible, the damage from combat wouldn’t have really matter unfortunately
It's weird but that doesn't quite work. The -x/-x to kill indestructible creatures only works when their toughness becomes 0. It doesn't matter if they've been dealt damage or not, they can't be destroyed by damage.
@@mattwilliamsonguitar from my experience it does work it's not dying to damage. It takes five from lelia then effectively goes down to five toughness so dismember puts it to 0 killing it, I did something similar to a toski on arena once
@@xreddragonsmithx2644 huh. I'll have to read up on that, that's a bizarre interaction.
@@mattwilliamsonguitar Arena and MTGO clients show damage after combat differently. Arena visually lowers their toughness after combat damage, but as you'll see on MTGO, the toughness never goes down. On MTGO Ulamog will have a red -5 indicator, but it'll still be a 10/10 after combat. Using Dismember post combat will lower it to a 5/5 and Ulamog is still indestructible regardless of prior combat damage. However I'm only 99% certain of this, so I'd love anyone to correct me.
and libary kinda stinks in this deck
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