Can You Use the Jab in Self Defense? | Boxing vs. Streetfighting

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    The question of whether or not boxing works in a streetfight is about the dumbest one ever. In fact, of all the martial arts it probably has the most evidence of its efficacy in the form of youtube videos, and it's even prevailed against multiple attackers on several documented occasions.
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  • @Emp6ft10in
    @Emp6ft10in 4 роки тому +2493

    "I train to fight in the streets." = I don't train at all but want to imagine I am still tougher than conditioned athletes.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому +302

      Basically

    • @howdidkobecrosstheroadonim3748
      @howdidkobecrosstheroadonim3748 4 роки тому +44

      I am no conditioned athlete but I've broken multiple nose with my head / elbow.I've never said that " i train for the streets" . Sounds kinda cringe even tho I can somewhat relate to it. I dont throw shade at yall. my cousin is an mma fighter. Reespect

    • @lanceros8453
      @lanceros8453 4 роки тому +110

      @@howdidkobecrosstheroadonim3748 good luck beating a letwhei or a muay Thai fighter with elbows or headbutts

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M 4 роки тому +28

      Hahaha very true but many people are conditioned enough to be pro athletes they just don't have the skills or athleticism to be one

    • @thehighlightreel2829
      @thehighlightreel2829 4 роки тому +33

      @@howdidkobecrosstheroadonim3748 Do you admit that your cousin could beat your ass?

  • @zeroblade6599
    @zeroblade6599 4 роки тому +2679

    ''We train for the streets, not for the ring'': my driving instructor

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому +420

      What a pussy.

    • @hervevillard5179
      @hervevillard5179 4 роки тому +30

      @@hard2hurt jajaja damn that s a very short and very funny thread!

    • @ryanmitchell6721
      @ryanmitchell6721 4 роки тому +19

      Lol thats awesome! I think most people that say this mean that there are rules in the ring, and street fights don't have rules. Everything we think we know about fighting is gone the second we get surrounded by 3 dudes that want to fuck us up outside a bar at 2am. What's that jab going to do for me now? Have we ever trained against multiple opponents? Do we have a fight IQ high enough to even deal with that? Are we fast enough, and have the stamina to run away safely? If so, could we time it enough to actually get space to escape? One thing that really affects our fighting game is stress(or fear, whatever you call it) we're going to need to a strong will in order to overcome situations where we are outnumbered or outmatched, and if you always keep your wits, you will make the right decisions and rarely be outgunned, even against high odds. @hard2hurt Man I really dig your content, and look forward to future videos

    • @dbz676
      @dbz676 4 роки тому +9

      why do you need to train for the street, just get a gun, dont waste your time, time is money

    • @hans592hansen9
      @hans592hansen9 4 роки тому +16

      @@dbz676 If you live in Germany good luck with that... But of course it is a great option.

  • @kennyhildebrand3299
    @kennyhildebrand3299 4 роки тому +2183

    I called a guy out at a bar one night. We went to the parking lot, squared off and he jabbed me in the nose real hard. I did the timeout sign and took him back inside and bought him a beer. We are friend to this day.

    • @jones9309
      @jones9309 4 роки тому +370

      I knew from the second it landed we would be friends for life lol

    • @michaelharder9737
      @michaelharder9737 4 роки тому +407

      This is why being a guy is awesome. We can have the beef, make amends, and be friends.
      I didn't mean for that to be as cheesy as it was.

    • @michaelharder9737
      @michaelharder9737 4 роки тому +364

      @awefawef awefawef yeah, because killing people is equivalent to barroom beefs.

    • @kennyhildebrand3299
      @kennyhildebrand3299 4 роки тому +38

      Jones it was a damn fine punch.

    • @kennyhildebrand3299
      @kennyhildebrand3299 4 роки тому +50

      awefawef awefawef come on man, no need to be nasty.

  • @Bosski23
    @Bosski23 4 роки тому +922

    Its funny because people who "train for the streets" most of the time havent even been in a street fight before, they just makin excuses why they suck in the ring, lol

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому +170

      Yeah. It _usually_ means they cant fight

    • @stevengruber57
      @stevengruber57 4 роки тому +24

      I'm not really familiar with people who say they train for the streets, but it makes sense to train how to get a fight over quickly and not to do 12 rounds in a ring if that's not what you want to do.

    • @howdidkobecrosstheroadonim3748
      @howdidkobecrosstheroadonim3748 4 роки тому +13

      @@stevengruber57 fighting dirty. throwing headbutts , elbows, etc.
      A few months back, at almost 2 am as i was looking for my phone in my car by the air thing.this mf Mexican guy a little bigger than me just walks up to me. thought he was a cop at first . he just walks up and leaned against my car door , caught me off guard.and i was all " fuck r u the laws?" and he just kept bein weird, askin my age, wouldn't show a badge.
      He had a white socks hat on, took it off And turned it back like i was wearing my hat. Which was strange enough , but what sealed it was him saying he needed to frisk me... I said aight and turned away from him towards my car, as if I were complying , then i spun my right elbow into his face as hard as i could😭😭😂😂
      he didn't go down but he stumbled back a bit holding his nose. He looked like he was about to cry😂😂😂😂 I yelled :u want more dog??" And walked up to him. he just stood there still holding his nose as I drove away from that parking lot

    • @lanceros8453
      @lanceros8453 4 роки тому +65

      @@stevengruber57 bs. A boxer can end a fight quick, but he can also fight for a long period of time. Most people who "train for de streets" can't do neither.

    • @stevengruber57
      @stevengruber57 4 роки тому +13

      @@lanceros8453 well a lot of training for boxing is to build stamina for a 12 round fight.

  • @dustinconnolly7258
    @dustinconnolly7258 4 роки тому +510

    The jab has ended many scraps before they can really start

    • @37H662
      @37H662 4 роки тому

      used 2be no

    • @DeadPool-nf8vn
      @DeadPool-nf8vn 4 роки тому +18

      @@37H662 yup

    • @jorgesolano1491
      @jorgesolano1491 4 роки тому +41

      ɮᴇᴄφᴍɪnɢ - War Robots the jab is not a warmup punch. It actually the most important punch. It helps set the power up for the lead punch. It also helps with your range.

    • @RyanGilbert16
      @RyanGilbert16 3 роки тому +4

      @@m.o.5291 always start with a jab... if you like the left hook, only counter or combo it up with a jab, straight then load up with the left hook. Always keep your hands up. Fear the man whose practiced 1 punch 1000 times.

    • @damienholland8103
      @damienholland8103 3 роки тому +4

      I believe so. Just the shock undoubtedly humbles a lot of people.

  • @PapaCasual
    @PapaCasual 4 роки тому +532

    Rules for street fighting:
    1: don't. Get away from the situation if possible.
    2. If rule number one is not possible, hit first.
    3. Dont quit hitting until you are pulled off or the person is on the ground unconcious.
    4: Make a quick exit and dont turn your back to the threat.

    • @artvandelay837
      @artvandelay837 4 роки тому +34

      Legally carry pepper spray and a firearm and you won't get into street fights

    • @PapaCasual
      @PapaCasual 4 роки тому +34

      @@artvandelay837 what if you can't legally carry?

    • @artvandelay837
      @artvandelay837 4 роки тому +47

      @@PapaCasual I guess you're screwed. But seriously, don't be the first person to hit. Terrible advice. You can't claim self defense at that point if the cops get involved.

    • @sergiopayan5336
      @sergiopayan5336 4 роки тому +123

      Art Vandelay If you’re not the first to hit then you might wake up in an ambulance wishing you were the first to hit.

    • @artvandelay837
      @artvandelay837 4 роки тому +18

      @@sergiopayan5336 Hitting first provokes people and allows THEM to press charges.

  • @rnc8062
    @rnc8062 4 роки тому +248

    "consult your attorney, before you go jabbing people in a street fight" LOooL

  • @kyokushinnojoe
    @kyokushinnojoe 4 роки тому +47

    I've been outclassed (in the gym) by people who knew how to put the jab (and later the cross) where it needed to go and when. It made me feel pretty useless. The jab is an incredible punch. Punches don't have to be power shots to hurt. After I've taken a slight beating, I am regularly confronted with why this is just a hobby for me.

    • @Jujitard69420
      @Jujitard69420 8 місяців тому

      Was light sparring my friend who i teach some bang muay thai and bjj like didnt even close my fists and we were boxing and he tried to swing a sloppy right hand left hook and left his chin open and i hit him step back right straight and saw him wobble

    • @Jujitard69420
      @Jujitard69420 8 місяців тому

      Timing beats power

  • @SaftonYT
    @SaftonYT 4 роки тому +47

    "Consult your attorney before you go jabbing people in the face in the street."
    This is the kind of solid advice that I subscribe for.

  • @jackwilson6467
    @jackwilson6467 4 роки тому +122

    I worked as a bouncer for a few years and got to see a lot of twenty to thirty something males assault each other. Saw the jab drop guys on at least three occasions. Crumbled up holding their nose a couple of times, or clipped on the chin and out cold once. Saw it as a set up for a cross or flailing hook a few times as well. But, remember alcohol or a stimulant was usually in the mix for most of these alterations.

    • @TheTokoUate
      @TheTokoUate 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah idk why but your chin weakens when your drunk

    • @leftvassis
      @leftvassis 4 роки тому +21

      @@TheTokoUate It weakens because blood flow to the brain is reduced when alcohol is consumed so the force required to knock somebody down or out becomes less

    • @erikbritz2637
      @erikbritz2637 4 роки тому +17

      And let me guess those guys came forward when then jab was popped out hence the KO also street fighters throw wide hooks a lot and straight punches beat wild winging punches so the jab or cross is killer.

  • @kypselialani14
    @kypselialani14 4 роки тому +116

    I use the jab a lot in a street fight...it always lands, plus its a perfect set up for the right cross...the "tough guys" cant move their head

    • @dbz676
      @dbz676 4 роки тому +3

      how good is your footwork

    • @kypselialani14
      @kypselialani14 4 роки тому +38

      @@dbz676 If u compare me with a pro boxer (i'm an amateur since '02) i'd say average...if u compare me with the a random tough guy in the street i'd say excellent at least...

    • @dbz676
      @dbz676 4 роки тому +3

      @@kypselialani14 i think footwork is key to make you a king, to hit and not getting hit. How did you improve yours? i heard ladder drills are good for that purpose

    • @lightbear939
      @lightbear939 4 роки тому +9

      dbz676 jump ropes, practicing moving back and forth, moving side to side and working on your angles.

    • @bigmanbarry2299
      @bigmanbarry2299 3 роки тому +3

      @@dbz676 Wanna know how to improve your footwork? Do footwork. If you want to get better at something often just doing that thing works wonders

  • @grahamjonathan762
    @grahamjonathan762 4 роки тому +377

    I've only ever had a step ladder.
    I never knew my real ladder.

    • @lobsterairsoft499
      @lobsterairsoft499 4 роки тому +9

      I too have seen the opening act for Louis CK

    • @abohsukampret
      @abohsukampret 4 роки тому +8

      That's a bad joke, but a pretty good bad joke.

  • @sela562jig
    @sela562jig 4 роки тому +286

    Last time I "defended" myself in the street I was locked up for assault. The guy was in a coma for 3 days. Not that I hit him hard but the fact that I hit him a few times hard, his drunk ass did the stanky leg, fell, and hit his head on the concrete. I stood at the scene because one, I felt bad, and two, I figured since it was "self defense" I wouldn't get in trouble. But I was wrong... I whooped him so bad that I was considered a weapon because I've had the "proper training". So my advice to anyone watching and reading my comment, if you know how to fight because of proper training don't even bother with an average street dude unless your life is really really at risk. Not worth it at all. You will be looked at as the bad one to the cops and judge. So in my opinion don't use any skill in the street unless your life is in danger. You're pretty much more dangerous them the average douchebag.

    • @getman4688
      @getman4688 4 роки тому +19

      Isaac Guillen Facts ! Ur a good dude . It’s better to walk away

    • @TonyCougar1965
      @TonyCougar1965 4 роки тому +7

      Absolutely! Thanks for sharing this 👍🏻

    • @sela562jig
      @sela562jig 4 роки тому +5

      @@getman4688 🙌🙌 thanks

    • @sela562jig
      @sela562jig 4 роки тому +3

      @@TonyCougar1965 thank you 🙌

    • @petergriffin7121
      @petergriffin7121 4 роки тому +9

      Isaac Guillen couldn’t you say that you don’t know how to fight and swung randomly?

  • @therealjesus1317
    @therealjesus1317 4 роки тому +35

    “If he doesn’t know how to take a punch he’s gonna turn around and fuck off which is cool.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 so true

  • @juanmorales5123
    @juanmorales5123 4 роки тому +24

    I had a guy join my boxing gym a few years back. I remember him lecturing me for a solid 40 minutes on how his street fight background made him better than any guy from the gym and how he has more power. He told me he was so quick that sometime in his street fights he would punch guys and they wouldnt even know where he was half the time. He was really motivated that week and went to the gym every day that week. I haven't seen him ever since😂

    • @pluggothesluggo5509
      @pluggothesluggo5509 Рік тому +6

      bro's too fucking dangerous to spar

    • @kenbajema
      @kenbajema 18 днів тому

      I'm the guy you are talking about. I quit your gym because I didn't want you or any one at the gym to learn my secrete street fight skills which I've polished in dozens of encounters by sucker punching drunk guys that were not looking. Maybe someday I'll be ready to share my skills with the CIA or some other elight alphabet government agency that I deem worthy.....

  • @jamesmarhen
    @jamesmarhen 4 роки тому +136

    The thing that drives me crazy in street fights, people moving straight backwards. If you're in a fight, are not a fighter, haven't trained, at least move to the side, and try to move away from their power hand.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому +59

      That's natural instinct... that had to be trained out of people. We just filmed a video on this

    • @KevinBording
      @KevinBording 4 роки тому +10

      Well thats not basic instinct, cause of you aint trained you dont know about the power hand 😀 its like people running straight away from a falling thing, instead of running sideways 🤷‍♂️

    • @CousinJesse1
      @CousinJesse1 4 роки тому +1

      But you can't really tell which punch is their power punch unless you have trained/fought with them beforehand.

    • @jamesmarhen
      @jamesmarhen 4 роки тому +2

      @@CousinJesse1 true but the stance people get in gives it away most of the time.

    • @gbormann71
      @gbormann71 4 роки тому

      @@jamesmarhen Unless you train both sides.

  • @HawkSlam
    @HawkSlam 4 роки тому +153

    I just train for fitness and self-confidence. Friends all noticed a change in my demeanour once I learned how to fight. I would also like to clarify that I have never had to fight anyone outside a ring *BECAUSE* of what I learned from training.

    • @jones9309
      @jones9309 4 роки тому +4

      @@stefanh5699 you sound like a guy I know lol

    • @jones9309
      @jones9309 4 роки тому +10

      Good, people outside the ring don't deserve to get beat up by you 😁

    • @HawkSlam
      @HawkSlam 4 роки тому +20

      Stefan H that’s what we like to see

    • @jewberggoldstein7112
      @jewberggoldstein7112 4 роки тому

      @@stefanh5699 hahaha class.

    • @therealwewin
      @therealwewin 4 роки тому

      @@stefanh5699 you like to disturb the peace?

  • @Inquisitor_Vex
    @Inquisitor_Vex 4 роки тому +431

    So these guys just went to the corner shop for some milk like;
    “Hey we should do a video on jabs!”
    “Yeah sounds good!”
    “Like, right now.”
    “Oh.. uh.. ok.”

    • @fezziwig184
      @fezziwig184 4 роки тому +9

      Lol I was wondering if anyone was watching them through the windows

    • @reverserican
      @reverserican 4 роки тому +14

      Their building is right there lmfao

    • @johnleepettimoreiii65
      @johnleepettimoreiii65 3 роки тому

      He always does videos on 'street fighting' aaaa...get this, IN THE STREET.
      He makes plenty of videos on gym work from inside his gym, which is right behind him.

  • @andrewferris1903
    @andrewferris1903 4 роки тому +32

    I think it's better to jab and stiff arm rather than retract in a street scenario, it's the fastest way to establish a line of defense and gain control.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому +17

      I like the stiff arm or post a lot. It's a big part of our kickboxing and boxing curriculum

    • @andrewferris1903
      @andrewferris1903 4 роки тому +2

      @@hard2hurt I think stiff arms and collar ties are foundational for "self defense" as well, realistically speaking grappling to strike comes more naturally to most people than anything else.

    • @leetaylor4471
      @leetaylor4471 3 роки тому +2

      Jab, lead elbow, post, switch knee (if you’re orthodox)
      That should drop em...

  • @oa7274
    @oa7274 4 роки тому +10

    I trained boxing casually for years. I've been in a street (bar) fight twice in my life. Both are quick encounter which I threw 1-2 while retreating to a lunging aggresive guy. In both occassions they immediately ceased moving forward (perhaps realizing its not gonna be an easy fight) and it never escalated into an all out brawl. So yeah, jab is useful in a street fight.

    • @AzrAEL-ls8iq
      @AzrAEL-ls8iq Рік тому

      and everyone clapped

    • @patootie3529
      @patootie3529 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@AzrAEL-ls8iq u must be from a real nice neighborhood to think that doesn't happen lol

  • @robbyforty-four5092
    @robbyforty-four5092 4 роки тому +155

    Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

    • @Ae0liann
      @Ae0liann 4 роки тому +16

      robby forty-four so original

    • @mobbdeep615
      @mobbdeep615 3 роки тому +3

      mike

    • @carlosandres1835
      @carlosandres1835 3 роки тому +2

      Mike have a plan too, him trainer called it peek a boo

    • @yuravish9878
      @yuravish9878 3 роки тому

      Ok but someone who's more prepared will likely win any battle over someone who's unprepared.

    • @tristankendrick2582
      @tristankendrick2582 2 роки тому +1

      Mick Tisson

  • @nightsphenom7122
    @nightsphenom7122 3 роки тому +81

    Some guy on the internet was acting really gangster with me and I told him I’m an amateur boxer and his reply was “I fight in the streets not in the ring”😂😂😂😂

    • @DagonMX
      @DagonMX 3 роки тому +34

      You're legally not allowed to fight him until you get your street fighting permit.

    • @GuyFromTheSouth
      @GuyFromTheSouth 3 роки тому +9

      Ive heard that before myself. I also hear "well id just shoot you" and I always respond "do you have your gun on your person right now" its a no 9 outta 10 times.

    • @ChristApologetics1
      @ChristApologetics1 3 роки тому +8

      Plot twist: you're an amateur boxer in your garage

    • @ThePrideJJ
      @ThePrideJJ 3 роки тому

      Sometimes
      When people say that they mean there won’t be any rules .

    • @bigmanbarry2299
      @bigmanbarry2299 3 роки тому +19

      @@ThePrideJJ if you’re fighting a guy who knows how to fight the rules are there for your own good. Not for his good. Where a dirty strike from you might hurt a boxer, a dirty strike from a boxer may kill you.
      People need to understand this lol

  • @geminislytherin949
    @geminislytherin949 3 роки тому +21

    I like how he explains and im binge watching his videos. 😂

  • @cnit6213
    @cnit6213 4 роки тому +3

    I been training mma and working with violence for many years. My firm opinion when it comes to fighting on the street against an anarmed opponent is that boxing is the best. A good boxer with a terrible good jab has every chance of winning the fight pretty quickly and with the least effort. Of course, with a little dexterity about the street rules. It's much harder to become a good boxer than to learn how to act in a street environment.
    However this guy, Mike is verry complete as a intructor and teacher.

  • @cerebrhus1428
    @cerebrhus1428 4 роки тому +12

    Great video, as a boxer myself I couldn't have put it any better. I'd love to see a video of the explanation behind adjusting your wrist before throwing a punch. A lot of people tend to throw and connect with the flat part between the knuckle and finger joint and it's so crucial for them to learn otherwise. Keep up the good work, love the channel!

    • @complexblackness
      @complexblackness 4 роки тому

      That's funny you say that, because I have at times hit with that part. I notice it and will adjust my wrist to hit directly with my first two knuckles.

    • @erikbritz2637
      @erikbritz2637 4 роки тому

      First two knuckles bends my wrists so i land with th middle and ring fingers meaning square and flat this way my knuckles buckle fuckol which is weird also havent hurt my ring finger or knuckle cause of it either and before anyone asks i have ten years of mma and one year currently in boxing under my belt and im undefeated in mma and boxing.

    • @cerebrhus1428
      @cerebrhus1428 4 роки тому +1

      @@erikbritz2637 I mean proper technique is to bend your wrist and hit with your first 2 knuckles. Idk why'd you have to bring up you being "undefeated", it literally serves no purpose in the conversation.

    • @erikbritz2637
      @erikbritz2637 4 роки тому

      @@cerebrhus1428 it does cause i have zero hand injuries through my fight career and im using a slightly different technique try it out you will see what i mean

    • @cerebrhus1428
      @cerebrhus1428 4 роки тому

      @@erikbritz2637 you can't compare striking in MMA to boxing my guy. I've tried different methods of striking through my 7 years of boxing and none are as efficient as striking with your first 2 knuckles. Now if you wanna say that you feel more comfortable striking with the one's you mentioned then alright that's what works for you. I've gone through many injuries and they become more prone when you don't strike with your first 2 knuckles.

  • @toby1conoby1
    @toby1conoby1 4 роки тому +16

    I always learn something good from your videos bruv. Shout out from NZ.
    You were a police offer we know that, but where and when did you develop a passion and skills for fighting?
    What is it 3 and 0 in scar faces back yard? lmao. You the man bro.

  • @marylunar832
    @marylunar832 4 роки тому +34

    The I went to the body part killed me 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @maxsonja6608
    @maxsonja6608 5 місяців тому

    I love you Mike ! Awesome as always.

  • @patrickgoebel3301
    @patrickgoebel3301 4 роки тому +15

    I read that back in day the jab was referred to as the "jolt" it was meant to be a fast surprising attack. Later on it started to be used more as a way to gauge distance and generally became weaker. Now i try to think "jolt" rather than jab, it reminds me what it's really for

    • @neloverg3774
      @neloverg3774 2 роки тому +1

      2yrs later and all, but it all depends on how you use the jab. How you turn your hips, shoulders, foot position, etc can turn that weak jab into a power shot. Look at Sony Liston, or Julian Jackson. But, Liston especially his jab was fucking scary. Man was throwing bombs at people

  • @savage7882
    @savage7882 4 роки тому +170

    I train for the ring!
    I train for the streets!
    Me: *PUNCH IS PUNCH!!!*

    • @thebodykeepsthescore2828
      @thebodykeepsthescore2828 4 роки тому +2

      Job is job

    • @j.a.s.p.e.r.
      @j.a.s.p.e.r. 4 роки тому +3

      *shows mr. Incredible meme*

    • @jones9309
      @jones9309 4 роки тому

      I can't let you get close

    • @savage7882
      @savage7882 4 роки тому +3

      @@TOMDHARLEYJKD First of, you missed the joke
      Secondly, im not sure you know how to fight

    • @LondonPvP
      @LondonPvP 4 роки тому +6

      Toma Harley doesn’t matter, without the gloves any fighter could ko you faster and harder lol.

  • @escre
    @escre 4 роки тому

    Great content. Looking forward to a future video on intentional drops in technique as a strategy.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому +1

      That's not a bad video idea...

  • @szegetz4989
    @szegetz4989 4 роки тому +2

    good vid! I would just add a scenario in which after throwing quick jab your opponent would try to land loaded up & huge hook (probably right one) so it'd be great to have prepared good ole one & two - after quick jab, solid right cross to open target/face or whatever would bring an end to disagreement.

  • @vallewabbel9690
    @vallewabbel9690 4 роки тому +60

    10 out of 10, would go to the body again :D

  • @crod038
    @crod038 2 роки тому +10

    In the words of AJ of what they taught him .. " a good right hand can take you around the block, a good jab can take you around the world" 👍🔥

  • @robertrawlinsii9372
    @robertrawlinsii9372 4 роки тому +2

    As a kid my uncle used to make me throw the jab over and over again. He would say you lifted your shoulder or you dropped the shoulder or you pulled back. His whole goal was to create a punch that had no cues whatsoever and as I got older I could always land the jab. As I progressed I started to throw what some people call an upper jab from the below the waist or from waist level. I liked this better because it both gave my opponent the illusion of an opening and because it really opened up my line of sight. I liked to counter punch so that the left hand carried low encouraged attacks but with good foot and weight positioning coupled with being able to keep the chin tight to the left shoulder and being able to roll the shoulder allows you enough defense. The jab also is thrown from out of the line of sight of your opponent so with no cues the punch will land easily. Lastly I think that it is often better for a boxer to lead with the hook or check hook in a street fight. Most people who have never boxed can identify a well thrown short left hook. The punch thrown correctly defies the laws of physics LOL or at least it appears to. The weight transfer is backwards and the weight starts on the lead foot and ends on the back foot so that the punch is being pulled somewhat towards the person throwing the punch. It's trajectory is thrown from a weird angle and is usually thrown in such a way when thrown right that the recipient does not see the punch and if he does it is literally a fraction of a millisecond before it lands. Positioning is extremely important but if you know what your doing it is easier to get good position to throw the shot in a streetfight then it is in the ring, because the opponent in the ring has an idea of what sort of danger he is in.

  • @ThePrideJJ
    @ThePrideJJ 3 роки тому

    Such practical ,good ,advice . Love his form .

  • @yourlifeisyourfault.4212
    @yourlifeisyourfault.4212 4 роки тому +8

    In the gym I train with 16oz gloves and have gotten used to the defensive coverage & hand protection gloves provide... so for people like me a steetfight is different.

    • @coach_brandon1842
      @coach_brandon1842 4 роки тому +3

      For small gloves or no gloves you have to think more in the MMA striking realm. You have to rely more on head movement, parries, and footwork. I spent alot of time training in the kickboxing realm and the MMA areas and not all the defensive techniques from kickboxing transfer well to small gloves. You can't shell up or hand block the head well outside of big glvoes so you have to block with your whole arm and elbow. The upside to small or no gloves is you don't have to move your head as much to get out of the way, they can't hit as hard as in big gloves, but the impact is more dense and painful.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому +2

      This is one of the issues that does crop up... I should do a video directly contradicts what I said in the last one that's always fun.

  • @fr33ourminds
    @fr33ourminds 4 роки тому +8

    I had to give someone a quick jab once and I followed up saying "I dont want to fight" and he backed off and I backed off. It was pretty nice.

  • @neondynamite
    @neondynamite 3 роки тому

    okay, i must say the auto focus on the camera you're using is the mvp of the entire video haha, great vid

  • @XMartinv90x
    @XMartinv90x 4 роки тому

    Good video.👍 Very informative. 👊

  • @Bfolks84
    @Bfolks84 4 роки тому +27

    U need to make a “I’ll just go to the body!” Shirt.

  • @connorburnette556
    @connorburnette556 4 роки тому +3

    I’d love to see a video purely dedicated to wrestling. Such as do’s and dont’s for self defense, what works, what you recommend, overall just your opinion on wrestling for self defense.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому +5

      Best channel for wrestling tutorials is teach me grappling. He not only breaks down important details of each move, but also how to practice it in a productive way.

    • @andrewferris1903
      @andrewferris1903 4 роки тому

      Wrestling takedowns and ground work for self defense are a "grey area," even most of the techniques in MMA would be awful in a street altercation - shooting a double on concrete is suicicidal. Realistically, you'd pretty much have to rely on a high crotch or suplex with a slam (lethal on concrete) or knee picks into ground and pound.

  • @skohtihamilton9443
    @skohtihamilton9443 4 роки тому

    I'm glad you covered the danger of the jab on the leading foot. It's unbalanced and looses all the speed and snap. It's known in some boxing circles as the "Lazy Jab". Even if you are jabbing to set up combo or gauge distance you should never leave your arm out there and, as you said, NEVER lunge into it. (if you are a right handed fencer and tend to box southpaw you may need extra training to overcome this tendency) + A lazy jab requires more effort in recovery (it's slow, hence "lazy") and will get you knocked out against a quick opponent. Thanks again for the great work you do in the videos.

  • @johnv5211
    @johnv5211 4 роки тому +1

    Cowboy Cerrone is a perfect example of this. Dude strikes no telegraph and keeps his torso over his legs. Doesn't reach or put himself off balance. Great video. Very informative.

  • @johnsamsjr8670
    @johnsamsjr8670 4 роки тому +33

    Awesome video
    The jab is just a setup move for the rest of your actions
    And it saves your cardio
    Cardio is huge in a street fight

    • @paorasimon4957
      @paorasimon4957 4 роки тому +2

      @Ej Teacher and distance/range👍

    • @acrididi
      @acrididi 4 роки тому +5

      Cardio is huge in a street fight? Doesn't it last just a few seconds?

    • @jewberggoldstein7112
      @jewberggoldstein7112 4 роки тому +1

      @@acrididi it's beneficial but I mean yeah can be over in like one punch.

    • @Monsoon31
      @Monsoon31 4 роки тому

      @@acrididi no if they pull out the gun

    • @khoanguyen-wc8qz
      @khoanguyen-wc8qz 3 роки тому +1

      @@acrididi street combat's times can be varied, from few seconds like what you usually see to few days or a whole weeks like civil unrests (take Hong Kong for example), so yeah, you need a big tank or you're gonna gas out very quickly and on the streets, they only stop when their enemy(ies) stop moving!

  • @jwaynecitizen
    @jwaynecitizen 4 роки тому +6

    "I train for the streets" Sounds like someone mimicking stuff they watched in a Kung Fu movie.

  • @kmetvhribih
    @kmetvhribih 4 роки тому

    I use a really nice drill to train the telegraphing out of my jabs (also helps with speed). Have someone hold a pad for you, you throw a jab and they try to move it out of the way. For beginners id suggest moving it out of the way sideways, later just have them drop it so the gravity helps. Also have the pad holder tell you how he saw the strike coming and eliminate that from your movement. Just two things to keep in mind, make sure you have good enough control over your strikes so you don't injure your elbow when you miss and do not cheat by aiming below the pad, aim for the pad, if you're good enough you'll hit it. It also works for crosses, but it is a bit more difficult (obviously).

  • @hollismarshall
    @hollismarshall 4 роки тому +1

    In the boxing ring it's a chess game mixed with emotion in a street fight it's usually just emotion. So depending on whether you know who your going to fight will determine on whether you want utilize the jab. He said it in the video if he starts coming at you tryna strangle or grab you, you probably gonna want to use some other techniques. Love this vid thanks for the upload

  • @slicktop2jz855
    @slicktop2jz855 4 роки тому +8

    Too many street fights end up on the ground with the 2 girls pulling each others ponytails.

  • @asersah
    @asersah 4 роки тому +43

    FOR DA STREEETZZZ

  • @jimpyre5038
    @jimpyre5038 4 роки тому

    I love this channel!!

  • @theyellowlegoman
    @theyellowlegoman 4 роки тому

    I love so much when he is "quoting" with fingers. What a slick move for the fights I am fighting on the net constantly.

  • @johnny2hats330
    @johnny2hats330 4 роки тому +6

    Bit of a tangent to self defence, but check out some Lennox Lewis fight videos to see impressive techniques based off the jab

  • @frankortiz5404
    @frankortiz5404 4 роки тому +10

    Or u can just blast double before they swing and end it there

  • @boxingfitfocus
    @boxingfitfocus 4 роки тому

    Great advice bro 💪🔥

  • @Nepthu
    @Nepthu 4 роки тому +1

    I view the jab as a set-up/distraction for what comes behind it. A nice pop will shock the guy and leave him open for a 2,3 or 4 combo. My boxing teacher drilled my jab early on; it took a while to stop the telegraphing movement. When you get it down and can finally hit your teacher in sparring session, it's an awesome feeling.

  • @nathanielrichardson4054
    @nathanielrichardson4054 4 роки тому +4

    Yes jab in a street fight. I did that on this dudes chin real hard and a right hook to the body and he didn't want no more after that

  • @rubenaerts7284
    @rubenaerts7284 4 роки тому +4

    I ve seen very effective Jabs in the ufc and bare knuckle fighting, so I can imagine it will work in the streets 2.

  • @Csky1988
    @Csky1988 4 роки тому

    I live in an area where there is virtually no street violence thankfully but I do really appreciate your guys videos!

    • @bombastikderteutone6858
      @bombastikderteutone6858 4 роки тому

      so where in the us is that?^^ im just curiousb (round a bout)

    • @Csky1988
      @Csky1988 4 роки тому

      @@bombastikderteutone6858 small town in California. Population of like 3500, everyone knows everyone. Now go a town over this is a different story...
      Worst we have is pot smokers at the park.

  • @theyoungtravelier
    @theyoungtravelier 4 роки тому

    Cool video! Curious what you think about straight punches since you kind of showed one in the beginning

  • @kaidenkilcrease
    @kaidenkilcrease 4 роки тому +5

    1:27 his face got worried 😂

    • @Defender78
      @Defender78 3 роки тому

      I hope no one called the police and these guys in the parking lot LOL

  • @rubenvaldez5821
    @rubenvaldez5821 4 роки тому +3

    what if he nails u with his left knee since your short?

    • @GIFT1FROM1THE1GODZ
      @GIFT1FROM1THE1GODZ 4 роки тому +4

      If you're fighting someone throwing knee counters to jabs, you have much bigger problems do deal with than punch selection man 😭

  • @StimmedPenguin
    @StimmedPenguin 4 роки тому

    In a “street” situation I agree not telegraphing is ideal if they’re aggressive, pushing forward and you need to get something in to try to follow up with something else, but a good power jab with the same untelegraphed shoulder movement and forward movement can knock a guy down if you catch him square or allow you to get into grappling or follow up striking range if you don’t have any options to use defensive foot work to improve your situation.
    But in a more ring/duel situation the pump jab can become several things other than a predictable movement-a faint to setup untelegraphed jabs, a pump jab you follow through with instead of faint to catch over reactions, or force a retreat or movement to “cut off the ring”.
    But yeah, hit with shots that the other guy can’t see, but will feel. Whether it’s letting a guy run into your fist or whether it’s giving the other guy a punch he thought he could see coming.

  • @Thejoeordinary1
    @Thejoeordinary1 3 роки тому

    The Dempsey drop step adds power as you’re basically putting most of your body weight behind it into the jab ,but, yeah, it’s easier to block, and if the opponent knows what he’s doing , can counter it easier. I’m with CN on this. The few times I used a jab in an altercation was to bring the opponent’s hands up to open him up to a single or double leg, as my background is wrestling. Once on the ground it’s usually pretty much over either by cooler heads prevailing at that point or a more convincing technique is used.

  • @rampage2587
    @rampage2587 4 роки тому +4

    Depends on the aggression and fighting style of the opponent.

    • @officialdropfactory7048
      @officialdropfactory7048 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah if your opponent starts doing capoeira, just kick him in the balls

    • @rampage2587
      @rampage2587 4 роки тому

      @@officialdropfactory7048 I prefer the squeeze and twist

    • @officialdropfactory7048
      @officialdropfactory7048 4 роки тому +2

      @@rampage2587 And then you just go to the body

    • @i-never-look-at-replies-lol
      @i-never-look-at-replies-lol 4 роки тому +6

      @@rampage2587 I, too, like to give my gentlemen in combat a good reach around. Sometimes a caress to the taint helps as well.

    • @gbormann71
      @gbormann71 4 роки тому

      @@officialdropfactory7048 😂

  • @BootyBot
    @BootyBot 4 роки тому +4

    Dude you are a very talented and athletic guy who clearly knows what he's doing but I don't know where you got the idea that being stupid somehow makes someone a better fighter, or even that you're stupid yourself. One of the most talented guys in BJJ I've trained with was a PhD. John Danaher, arguably the greatest BJJ coach of our generation had a Bachlor's, Master's and was working toward PhD before he dropped out. Shane Carwin was an engineer. Terry Martin a master's in clinical psychology. Carlos Newton a medical degree. Wladimir Klitschko has a PhD and speaks four languages.
    Knowing how to fight and intelligence aren't like some oppositional variables that somehow cancel each other out. Plus there are a lot of different types of intelligence. Spacial for one, which you clearly have. Spacial intelligence is something that can exist and be developed in any sort of person, it's not some sort of special ability that only stupid people have.

    • @wingso8221
      @wingso8221 4 роки тому +2

      Yo chill, I think what Mike means is that guys who get “sciency” WHEN they talk about fighting usually don’t really know how to fight. A guy can be a scientist or super intelligent and at the same time not be sciency when he is explaining martial art techniques.

    • @StormBringare
      @StormBringare 4 роки тому

      What Wing said, also getting "too sciency" to me means going in depth and using big words which has a tendency to lose some people's attention. In this case that's unneccessary because people don't need the in depth discussion of how our brains process and react to movements to understand why the winding up motion can be bad.

    • @BootyBot
      @BootyBot 4 роки тому +3

      @@wingso8221 Everybody's chill here, my guy. He's said similar things in the past, and more directly. Like "It makes it more difficult to fight well if you're smart". See 2:13 in the video below.
      ua-cam.com/video/T-8wdzj0T3M/v-deo.html

  • @tyhollo3426
    @tyhollo3426 4 роки тому

    Nice info on the jab , linear hidden no telegraph 👏 . But , in wing Chun the soon punch (not sure how it's spelt) relies on the science behind it , and it is EFFECTIVE . Especially if you mix you regular boxer jab with you soon punch .

  • @intensepete430
    @intensepete430 4 роки тому

    You do very informative videos with an impressive lack of vanity and Bullsh** much appreciated

  • @acrididi
    @acrididi 4 роки тому +3

    This was actually good

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 4 роки тому +6

    *This reminds me*
    of Bruce Lee's Sparring Footage at Long Beach 1964 wherein 90% of the time he only uses his Lead Hand

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому

      Umm... the _jab_ reminds you of that?

    • @duchi882
      @duchi882 4 роки тому +3

      @@hard2hurt, yeah aside from Ali and Mayweather.
      I find it odd that Bruce almost never uses his rear hand

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  4 роки тому

      @@duchi882 Never uses it when? When doing what?

    • @duchi882
      @duchi882 4 роки тому +3

      @@hard2hurt, I find it odd that Bruce almost never uses his Rear Hand to throw combinations like a Boxer does and almost never uses it to throw a hook in the Longbeach sparring footage, the only footage I saw Bruce throwing a hook or using his Rear Hand was when he's hitting the Heavy Bag or in his films

    • @jackwilson6467
      @jackwilson6467 4 роки тому +1

      That's the only sparring footage of Lee. There are some still photos of him sparring in the back yard. But, if you ever read his book a big part of his system was a "lead hand punch" thrown with his strong side forward. Modelled off Jack Dempseys "lead left jolt." I've only seen one guy really be able to use it in sparring. It takes a lot of athletic attributes to be able to control the range with it in the compressed time/distance and closing speed of a street assault.

  • @ThatWhichErodes
    @ThatWhichErodes 4 роки тому +1

    the best method of self defense is still the half-mile sprint. if you can put maximum distance between you and a person as quickly as possible, not only does it make you harder to hurt, but that person has to seriously consider if it's worth the effort.

  • @miker00I
    @miker00I 3 роки тому

    Awesome video. Thanks

  • @Dan-ph8zt
    @Dan-ph8zt 4 роки тому +3

    Free of speak from Sweden. I Love your content but. Why do you think every thing is rong? What i seen and heard every thing is rong. And jabbing is not to nock sameone.

  • @lobsterairsoft499
    @lobsterairsoft499 4 роки тому +12

    “Getting punched in the face feels about the same”
    So gloves feel the same as bare hands??

    • @MegaSlayerr
      @MegaSlayerr 4 роки тому +24

      Tbh the glove will buzz you more, the bare hand cuts more tho... gloves are to protect your hands not ur opponents face.

    • @lobsterairsoft499
      @lobsterairsoft499 4 роки тому +5

      Anyname willdo gloves don’t hurt as bad as bare hands. There’s more padding which is why professional has less padding and amateur has more

    • @MegaSlayerr
      @MegaSlayerr 4 роки тому +12

      @@lobsterairsoft499 They did tests on it i believe the glove allows you to punch harder, ive experienced both, imo bare knuckle didnt hurt has bad as glove as in getting buzzed

    • @lobsterairsoft499
      @lobsterairsoft499 4 роки тому +3

      Anyname willdo guy google it takes 2 seconds. A bare fist will do more damage than a padded glove. There’s tons of videos and tests proving this and it makes perfect sense. Same amount of force over a smaller area with less padding equals more damage

    • @paw1ak_248
      @paw1ak_248 4 роки тому

      @@MegaSlayerr ovo a glove dosent hurt that much, a bare fist tho hurts.

  • @DoomRater
    @DoomRater 4 роки тому

    I played Cosmic Ark like crazy as a kid and the space travel round of this Atari game really brings this point home. Just look straight at the ark and let your peripheral vision pick up the meteors coming at the ark and react to them. Same thing with that jab telegraph. It pops right into the peripheral vision center, very easy to react. By the way, you can find a Kimbo Slice boxing video showing the same principle as this video's trying to make.

  • @slipknot666721
    @slipknot666721 4 роки тому

    Hey Mike love the channel, just wondering whats your opinion on GI and no-GI training for self defense is either better or can they both work? sorry if you have answer this question already.

  • @jlev9513
    @jlev9513 4 роки тому +4

    New guy - “ yeah I used to be a street fighter”
    Me - *Opens door to cage*
    “step into my office 😈”

    • @jlev9513
      @jlev9513 4 роки тому

      Daniel Whiting heard that all before 😴😂. I have no doubt there are people who could hold their own, but against a legit aspiring prospect? Who does nothing but train his craft? Cmon man let’s not fool ourselves.

    • @jlev9513
      @jlev9513 4 роки тому

      Daniel Whiting Well me personally MMA. But it’s silly to think you can not train everyday, and dominate someone who does, just because of past experience. He’ll there’s been times I’ve had an injury and been out of sparring for a month, and the guy I was cracking starts cracking me.

  • @mikeydo9567
    @mikeydo9567 4 роки тому

    Icy Mike, what's your take on the "vibrating palm" or windshield washer technique, in some styles like Kempo (Jim Brassard is one proponent of this)? Will it just tick off a determined individual etc.? Luv your vids, thanks! Also, do you ever offset your feet 35 degrees or so at the end of the jab for an extra reach and oomf?

  • @CarnivoreRonin
    @CarnivoreRonin 3 роки тому

    I always love your videos.
    I am one of those "karate nerds" with multiple black belts (Real and earned in the dungeon days.) I love the snap and no BS way you show the jab. In my opinion, a "grown ass man" should never expect to knock out another "grown ass man" with a jab. Hollywood has conditioned people wrongly. Apparently, feeling the distance and messing up someone's timing doesn't make for good cinema.

  • @marcuscopley131
    @marcuscopley131 4 роки тому +1

    Jab is a perfect range finder followed by straight right and left hook,Usually at that point people who start a fight in the street are looking at pavement or a way to get out of the situation. Most trained fighters don’t Street fight and will de escalate a confrontation which works well unless your adversary is drunk or drug fueled.

  • @spidermangaming8769
    @spidermangaming8769 4 роки тому

    Killer videos bro

  • @coach_brandon1842
    @coach_brandon1842 4 роки тому

    that has to be the best quick explanation of street vs ring ever. The street is just everything in the ring done on a time crunch with urgency.

  • @thisisscotts
    @thisisscotts 4 роки тому

    Good video. Can recommend the video with Michael Jai White and Kimbo Slice, where MJW gets more into how to not telegraph your punches and just go straight forward.

  • @jeremiahiwinski3566
    @jeremiahiwinski3566 4 роки тому

    Love the video guys. I love the jab, especially the post jab which can set up a hook unless they know wristlocks. Also use it to set up roundhouse into a dbl leg takedown. My opinion on street vs MMA is that MMA strikes/takedowns still work, there's just more of a focus on dealing with uour opponent quicker because he probably has friends. In streetfighting simpler is better and efficiency is king. A single leg takedown can knock a guy out on grass or kill him on concrete so why wouldn't you use it?

  • @philliptyner8394
    @philliptyner8394 4 роки тому

    I would say yes. As a range finder. Or a quick daze inducer for a flurry of power punches to follow to end a confrontation quickly.

  • @DudePeace101
    @DudePeace101 4 роки тому +2

    The only street fight I was ever in I kept my distance with the jab, it was a very quick way of figuring out where I couldnt get hit by the other dude and I knocked him out cold with a right cross. Definitely worked for me

  • @buzzkill808raven2
    @buzzkill808raven2 4 роки тому +1

    Saw a streetfight compellation of guys successfully taking on multiple attackers...Each time was about the same...They'd throw jabs almost entirely, and use stutterstep footwork to slowly back up, while constantly changing angles and checking behind or at least to the side. A few of them dropped 2-4 guys without getting hit at all

  • @ARCHER-ch4xn
    @ARCHER-ch4xn 3 роки тому +1

    around 6 years ago, the first fist fight I ever witnessed went like this:
    Guy A was the school boxer, and Guy B was a thug. The thug even had brass knuckles on. I don't know what happened because it all happened to o fast, but basically, the thug recoiled back for a huge right punch while the boxer just punched twice really fast and the thug went down.
    I think it was a jab and a straight, but damn that was memorable lol

  • @minasz
    @minasz 4 роки тому +2

    You have many types of jabs and i will say all jabs are usefull in a fight meaning competition street bar ocean or in the toilet ;-) the jabs i use r the basic jab. The tapper. This jab, a light tap, can be thrown in quick succession. The backstep jab. The power jab ( straight lead in jkd ) the double jab and the counter jab. and no im not hating so keep up the good work i like your videos

  • @theredninja2817
    @theredninja2817 4 роки тому +1

    I think I think........... I know from now on this is my favorite martial arts channel from now on...... So just to be sure I had to put from now on twice...... Actually three times now

  • @dylanplows483
    @dylanplows483 4 роки тому

    You made a great point, good video.

  • @theconjugate5204
    @theconjugate5204 3 роки тому

    My Dad isn’t a wordy man, but one gem he gave me - that you just repeated, and which therefore gives you credibility in my eyes - is to always hit first. I was a kid when told him I always got butterflies in my stomach every time I was about to get into it with some bullies I grew up with. I wanted advice on how to not feel the fear. He didn’t give me that. Instead he told me that’s my body telling me it’s time to hit, and to make sure I hit first. It was, and is still, good advice.

  • @dlworksop3052
    @dlworksop3052 4 роки тому +1

    Great channel, I've not tried to look for your location but how close are you guys to Jacksonville Florida, would love a future collaboration with you

    • @ronaldowens5025
      @ronaldowens5025 4 роки тому +1

      I never realized they were in or near the 904. That explains a lot, if he is in his 40s fighting was a way of life when he was a teen. I know it w as s for me (45) . Between the ethnic gangs and skinhead groups during that period if you couldn't handle your shit downtown or at the beaches after 10 PM you were meat.

  • @chrislivingstone1843
    @chrislivingstone1843 4 роки тому

    Mike, can you recommend a good channel for more basic technique info, e.g. boxing basics?

  • @jacobxavier1068
    @jacobxavier1068 4 роки тому

    Oh hey, great video! I had a quick question: In a self-defense context, with a jab or any punch to the head, are you concerned about damage to your own fingers? How would you minimize that?

    • @ethanbradberry4535
      @ethanbradberry4535 4 роки тому

      Jacob Xavier try to condition your knuckles I did karate when I was a kid and the used to make us punch some wood wrapped in rope our do push-ups on or knuckles it helps your hands get stronger but it’s still always gonna hurt like a bitch you just gotta learn how to deal with it in the moment and take some Advil the next day

  • @juanmatemos5695
    @juanmatemos5695 4 роки тому +1

    I love your channel greetings from argentina

  • @MrBurgoyne
    @MrBurgoyne 4 роки тому +1

    At a pub one night, I saw a guy walking up to another in the same fashion seen in this video, he walked straight into a stiff jab that put him on his ass. Didn't end the fight as expected but certainly put the other guy in a favourable position. All tools have their applications.

  • @kristonterbutt7373
    @kristonterbutt7373 4 роки тому

    A good jab mixed with defensive footwork has saved my arse on the street. When they cant hit you they get frustrated. Footwork and reflexes. Dont over commit in a street fight or you will end up on the ground with ribs and head kicked in. Thanks for the vid.

  • @necromancer0616
    @necromancer0616 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Mike, I liked your look better without the beard. But, as far as a street fight goes shouldn't you just completely either knock them out or down witch would end the fight with no drawbacks like the other guy going and getting his friends or similar things like that?

  • @ck9906
    @ck9906 3 роки тому

    You're an ace...strong fundamentals, man👊