I had 2 copies of the vanilla promo back in the day & gave it to a friend, he was kind enough to give it back to me when the errata was announced & I let him keep the other copy. Funny enough, it's useless unless I buy the pack for the Guardian Shield Ticket.
Yeah the box is definitely important. We have come a long way from needing a trial deck for a pg order to 30 booster boxes for 2 harmonics that 100% should be played in any deck.
@@rizalmain2850 you missed the point. Excluding buying singles, despite already owning a Harmonics Messiah, it's useless unless I buy HisColle to get the ticket. And if I somehow pulled the new Harmonics Messiah trying to get a ticket, it made owning the original & saving money redundant.
hopefully bushi doesnt take the wrong lesson from this. premium players are starved for more powerful defensive tools. however, making it chase cards instead of more common cards was a big mistake for the playerbase. 1k to give two premium decks an edge over the competition is too high a price.
We had to speak out. I hope the big influencers will get on board. This is a HUGE issue. I made a vid as well recently. Tried to provide positive solutions. Thanks again for posting as well.
Honestly I have no idea what the hesitation is. I did a video like this once when nobody would speak out about the errata issues before we then got the reissues. But as you said, this is a crisis. It is time to hold these companies to account more. We need more voices that are willing to fairly hold them to account on bad behaviour. Particularly where there aren't two sides to it. I will share your video on my twitter feed.
@@astralsusanoo9906 high chance, its because of their positive standing with Bushiroad or them hyping the game up as per usual without pointing out issues unless the community or them find it a nuisance to them
With the promo distribution issue in standard (I live in Australia so things are always late), and the price of Harmonics being basically over $100 aud... yeah I think I'm done with this game. It should have been a guaranteed promo per box. Bushiroad has been gatekeeping decks in standard with the PR bs, and now an entire format behind RNG or dropping huge $$$ if you're even lucky to find someone/a store selling it. If I have to buy a case to reliably get a single copy of a card I need, yeah no. Been playing close to 10 years and unfortunately I have a ton of G era decks but no Harmonics Messiah. Definitely would have been the thing that reeled back my faith in this game if they didn't butcher it.
I didn't know Australia had it bad. It is quite amazing that even being geographically closer to where production is doesn't help. Over here in the UK we are doing so poor on promos, I want to pick up the Minerva promos but not found a more ideal way of doing it. This actually makes it the first time for me where the promos bug me, and I was under the assumption things were worse previously. I would like to play the OTT one by late BCS for premium but i can't trust promo distribution speed like with sealed product. I know the feeling though, it casts doubt when decision makers do things like this with messiah, what is stopping more of these costlier and forced subscription model practices being pushed. How much further will the limits get pushed.
Forcing players to buy a legit crap set with reprints that at some point will be cheap cus there commons and not the higher rarity varient on top of Harmonics being 2-3 a case. Tbh these rates are a serious cop out to force premium players to shell out cash at a barely stable format. Like Premium is cool and all but we should have a 70$ price card that is manditory in every deck when people still gotta get V Cards that werent reprinted G stuff and strides on top of this card now. Its honestly insane but bushi always cares about money coming to them and only them so i guess its just business at the end of the day.
Makes you wonder if those in senior meetings over in Japan deciding this actually care about the game and their players at all, or just love money to fund their lifestyles off the back of players who feel abused and deal with the anxiety.
i truly believe that because standard was a success and people have gotten used to dog ratios in standard they tried to pull that mess with a premium set. going forward if this is also a success in their eyes it will just continue. and judging from seeing my locals crack literal cases even though singles was def an option id say its a big success. i hope this just doing transfer over to premium colle 2024 cus if it does premium will def being a hurdle to get into . This is coming from a Vet for VG just to show no serious biased to premium. @@astralsusanoo9906
You know what they could've done better? Skipping on those useless Peakers / Pichan for more Harmonics / Honolies. They also could've cut one of the R reprints for each clan (I don't mind missing out on Big Blow Ted or Machining Black Saturn) for better Harmonics / Honolies drop rate. You know what's way better? Not making every Premium set has only 3 cards per pack. Istg Bushiroad is keen on hurting the format by introducing more gatekeeping barriers for every P exclusive set we get.
Printing a proxy costs me like 10ct it can't be that it costs Bushi that much more to make Harmonics Messiah as well as the shield as a topper maybe even all the Cray units
As someone who felt exploited due to being a genesis high rarity collector when keeping my collection upto date with minerva SNR, I already raised the alarm on the idea they don't care how players feel or how much they end up spending on a single card. Only issue is. This was a niche problem exclusive to rarity hunters, some people have detached themselves from rarity collecting and abandoned the hobby because of how toxic it got from V onwards since PBD SNR was introduced. Harmonics on the other hand is far cheaper and bothers me less on a personal level of picking up, but it's a wider struggle for the community and also just makes it more obvious to normal players the things I woke up to back then as a collector. They slide the Overton window and there is no defined boundary on what is doing justice for the segments of players they have. Due to this. Players will perceive this hobby as a bear trap because of the lack of stability knowing the rug can be pulled and everything they accumulate will feel shitty if they are missing something, whether it's a card for the collection or a card they need for the deck to feel fair.
This is what upsets me most about the consequences. But that isn't to say we have more consistently seen hard sell cost consuming practices in more recent D product.
create guardian shield then create ace card that uses it at little pull rate not equal up, it defiantly is a horrid decision not increasing it , i guess a higher up just didnt let that part increase in box
Really makes it feel like a pyramid scheme. Makes you wonder if that higher up even cares about the game and wellbeing of the players who keep them relevant, or if they are only interested in funding their luxury normie lifestyle at a distance away from their nerdy fans who they live off the backs of. Because these decisions scream contempt towards the players.
It is. To not have much regard for the players who show dedication to the game and pull something like this is inexcusable. Collectors and deck builders have both felt disrespected by these sort of stunts particularly when there is too little to defend it.
Even for standard format I find it hard to stay in tbf. I joined last year and reality kicked in hard. The one shop that was originally close to me with Vanguard (30 mins away) closed down and the only place with promos is 50 to an hour away for me. Only 2 decks are topping in standard and it's kinda boring to deal with. Promos are a nightmare to deal with to go along with said reprints because Minerva's promo is constantly boughtout or way too expensive to justify making me jump ship to Pokemon again. Vanguard is fun, but too expensive
Yeah the game is genuinely fun to play atm but it is being ruined by shitty business decisions. It really doesn't commit seriously enough to growth anymore.
Even without Messiah, the set is just awful to open. 3 cards and 2 of them are common. Not to mention, the new strides with all that text are HIDEOUS. You can't even see what the unit is doing in the card art anymore. This product was just not well thought out.
100% correct on this sadly when a friend was starting the game I gave him 4 of the promo and when he quit he ripped up all the cards. But one thing to mention. I’m not sure about you but I’m having trouble just finding the new harmonics messiah let alone have the money to buy one.
Damn wtf why did he do that. There is no necessity to the low ratios that is for sure. It just seemed like people went into a senior board meeting and decided how to milk this set and flip more cases, I am sure the idea of how the players would feel didn't end up in those conversations. It's also why I think something as toxic to genesis collectors like me as like Minerva SNR could have materialised. Or banning tahro and destroying genesis. Difference is we are a marginalised and niche group. Harmonics Messiah pisses off everyone. I only decided to step up and speak out due to how low the volume has been on this crisis. We can't let people get away with awful behaviour like this.
I have seen multiple instances, contrary to the enjoyment of the game and products. Where it feels like sociopaths come up with some of these ideas lacking in any emotional intelligence.
@@astralsusanoo9906 I has been something I have noticed. I decided to work on my own TCG and as i decided for market research on other companies its something i have seen quite common with tcgs but not as blatant as this
Bushiroad is perhaps the most fascinating example of a card game company that hates its players. Hasbro and Wizards, Konami etc get a lot of flak but I’ve never seen a company pull it off like Bushiroad. They outright ignore the playerbase’s wishes to secure short term profits. Everyone saw the Harmonics price issue coming with 2 per case, we knew it was a terrible idea and they didn’t listen. The absolute scum practice of making Elementaria a TD promo to force people to buy useless product for a promo. Standard’s promo hell that we still haven’t gotten out of. The recent banlist which has every player scratching their heads over why hit Jet and Eva when Deeva and Willista run the format now? Bushiroad seems to actively hate its players, which is so unique for a TCG company. This isn’t getting into the biggest issue, Overtriggers, which literally every single competitive player has been asking to be banned since they were revealed 3 years ago, and not only does Bushi not ban them but they make new ones of them cover cards of the recent standard product. It’s reductive to say this but I have no other way to describe it. Bushiroad can best be described with the meme of “my goals are beyond your understanding.”
Honestly I was pretty ok with most of the history collection. Could have been an amazing gateway for new Premium players and those who are just looking for shiny SP's or erratas. But the Harmonics was an absolute mistake. It should have been 1 copy per box. Making a mandatory card for Premium with a low pull rate...whoever thought of that idea should be fired. But I think this is all by design. Bushi has way too many cardgames at the moment, and right now, they are having a heavy focus on Shadowverse. And they are planning ANOTHER game next year. I think they intend to kill Premium and V Premium just so that they can focus on Standard and not be bothered as much with the different Vanguard formats.
That is a terrifying thought if vg gets quality compromised. It is hard to say if it will damage the game or not. Unless resources are pulled away. My bigger concern is whether the people in control are sharing the same passion as us and don't see it only from a money making perspective. Which is how some recent decisions come across. The ethics is what matters foremost imo as it guides the rest of its future.
I believe that the amount of newcomers to premium is almost non-existant and the premium player will slowly but surely decrease. IMO with the releasing of stride decks, Bushiroad is trying to not only get back veteran players returning to the game but also to nostalgia bait the the premium players to transit fully to standard. Even JP scene is abandonning P. At this point I'm just thinking Bushiroad has been deliberately making bad products 😂
This is a good theory, I forgot I saw this suggested before. D Masergear Dragon doesn't feel like a proper premium card since its high roll without a rideline. Can't say for sure what the intent will be in the end or where we end up, but lets challenge them whenever they do things to the detriment of Premium. Tbf I also got more into D with Minerva.
@@astralsusanoo9906 I mean V is on the brink of being fully discontinued and V products are til now also major supports for Premium. With V being shut down, the logical consequence would be Premium being stalled and eventually would meet the same ending. Supporting both format is still not sustainable enough for the long run. Tbf I miss two-days events in the past.
I just don't know why everyone is calling them greedy NOW. Taking away sps a box, and making FFR 3 a case is so greedy. I'm not disagreeing with your points but D has had a lot of greedy decisions.
You may be correct. Given a pattern of behaviour seen with rrr changing in d set 4, then reduction of sps in d set 5, complete removal and rebranding in d set 6, almost like the purpose is to confuse and look less blatant that they took away. Furthermore, the handling of trial decks with blitz order pgs pushing them rather than the merit of the actual decks which had their main bosses replaced fast. All a short span of time. Plus chase cards going from r to rrr. There is always a part of me that tries to consider if the previous model was working, even for stores and those opening boxes. But seeing things like harmonics really doesn't help when trying to give the benefit of the doubt. The shift to nations i always felt was more to do with money making than actual gameplay by pushing every booster to a clan collector. We have seen attempt to push generics with cray and nation strides during the v era premium sets. They are things players do notice.
yeah nobody saw them as so. Errata was so unheard of too. tbf a lot of things have happened that people gave up the idea of, I think V era did take away imagination and make it easier to see it as hard sell new cards and forget the old, until that changed and legacy was looked at more again as D was coming in.
The low voice about it might come because Europe is not targeted by this yet. Europe has a huge player based in Vanguard and Cardmarket still didnt update yet, hence the european market still waits for the sales to happen. I heard from many player that they still hope for the prices to be lower, since EU prices generally are lower.
Actually, cardmarket has been pretty bad in many instances compared to TCGplayer. It is quite common to see users meme around and put 'scalper' prices just for the sake of it, rather than follow market history trends. Once a card dries up then those meme prices are taken more seriously. But then when you look over to tcgplayer it is cheaper in a lot of cases. I think Harmonics will likely go up because supply is low compared to demand, and so cases will be repeatedly opened (unless people just quit and tap out, but singles sellers will probably be incentivised if there are still premium players wanting it) until all cards are worthless except Harmonics who will carry more value since everything else is too hard to flip. Which ironically may make all those harder to get reprint commons easy to find and lack an actual reprint protection. But yeah, CM doesn't seem to have Harmonics still I noticed. Europe also pays more for the game, UK gets really bad. It really is a downside of this game having a centralised factory in South East Asia.
It's sad. The amount of times players end up feeling that way. I am still a premium or bust guy. I will never exclusively play a rotation format and will always demand standards with the eternal format.
Maybe this is Bushiroad's scheme to push players away from premium by pretending to pander towards the premium base. However, they were too short sighted to realize the promo paywall for standard and potentially pushing players away from that format too.
@mhz3317 yeah this was what I was saying all the time when the v reboot started. I was vocal online before I had this channel to pushback against those who enabled premium's demise. Wanted people to think ethics more.
@tricorn54 yeah we have seen multiple times players flock to v over P being perceived as toxic or inaccessible including by those who never played P and just remember shiranui or heritage from G. Even Bermuda. But then that does make it seem like a convenient way to end g to condition people into thinking that v happened because gz was broken (disputable) even though v was planned before gz was released.
@@naytny5819 That is my point, yes. We need to keep Premium as the PREMIERE competitive format. Less players, more expensive so only the best of the best of the best can compete and do well in the format
I had 2 copies of the vanilla promo back in the day & gave it to a friend, he was kind enough to give it back to me when the errata was announced & I let him keep the other copy. Funny enough, it's useless unless I buy the pack for the Guardian Shield Ticket.
Yeah the box is definitely important. We have come a long way from needing a trial deck for a pg order to 30 booster boxes for 2 harmonics that 100% should be played in any deck.
but the guardian ticket is abundant
@@rizalmain2850 you missed the point. Excluding buying singles, despite already owning a Harmonics Messiah, it's useless unless I buy HisColle to get the ticket. And if I somehow pulled the new Harmonics Messiah trying to get a ticket, it made owning the original & saving money redundant.
This has to be a fucking joke, someone at Bushiroad needs to respond because this cannot fly without some resolution
hopefully bushi doesnt take the wrong lesson from this.
premium players are starved for more powerful defensive tools. however, making it chase cards instead of more common cards was a big mistake for the playerbase.
1k to give two premium decks an edge over the competition is too high a price.
We had to speak out. I hope the big influencers will get on board. This is a HUGE issue. I made a vid as well recently. Tried to provide positive solutions. Thanks again for posting as well.
Honestly I have no idea what the hesitation is. I did a video like this once when nobody would speak out about the errata issues before we then got the reissues.
But as you said, this is a crisis. It is time to hold these companies to account more. We need more voices that are willing to fairly hold them to account on bad behaviour. Particularly where there aren't two sides to it.
I will share your video on my twitter feed.
@@astralsusanoo9906 high chance, its because of their positive standing with Bushiroad or them hyping the game up as per usual without pointing out issues unless the community or them find it a nuisance to them
It's kinda hard when the biggest VG influencer is a VG shill and rarely touches premium
With the promo distribution issue in standard (I live in Australia so things are always late), and the price of Harmonics being basically over $100 aud... yeah I think I'm done with this game. It should have been a guaranteed promo per box. Bushiroad has been gatekeeping decks in standard with the PR bs, and now an entire format behind RNG or dropping huge $$$ if you're even lucky to find someone/a store selling it. If I have to buy a case to reliably get a single copy of a card I need, yeah no.
Been playing close to 10 years and unfortunately I have a ton of G era decks but no Harmonics Messiah. Definitely would have been the thing that reeled back my faith in this game if they didn't butcher it.
I didn't know Australia had it bad. It is quite amazing that even being geographically closer to where production is doesn't help. Over here in the UK we are doing so poor on promos, I want to pick up the Minerva promos but not found a more ideal way of doing it. This actually makes it the first time for me where the promos bug me, and I was under the assumption things were worse previously. I would like to play the OTT one by late BCS for premium but i can't trust promo distribution speed like with sealed product.
I know the feeling though, it casts doubt when decision makers do things like this with messiah, what is stopping more of these costlier and forced subscription model practices being pushed. How much further will the limits get pushed.
Forcing players to buy a legit crap set with reprints that at some point will be cheap cus there commons and not the higher rarity varient on top of Harmonics being 2-3 a case. Tbh these rates are a serious cop out to force premium players to shell out cash at a barely stable format. Like Premium is cool and all but we should have a 70$ price card that is manditory in every deck when people still gotta get V Cards that werent reprinted G stuff and strides on top of this card now. Its honestly insane but bushi always cares about money coming to them and only them so i guess its just business at the end of the day.
Makes you wonder if those in senior meetings over in Japan deciding this actually care about the game and their players at all, or just love money to fund their lifestyles off the back of players who feel abused and deal with the anxiety.
i truly believe that because standard was a success and people have gotten used to dog ratios in standard they tried to pull that mess with a premium set. going forward if this is also a success in their eyes it will just continue. and judging from seeing my locals crack literal cases even though singles was def an option id say its a big success. i hope this just doing transfer over to premium colle 2024 cus if it does premium will def being a hurdle to get into . This is coming from a Vet for VG just to show no serious biased to premium.
@@astralsusanoo9906
You know what they could've done better? Skipping on those useless Peakers / Pichan for more Harmonics / Honolies. They also could've cut one of the R reprints for each clan (I don't mind missing out on Big Blow Ted or Machining Black Saturn) for better Harmonics / Honolies drop rate.
You know what's way better? Not making every Premium set has only 3 cards per pack. Istg Bushiroad is keen on hurting the format by introducing more gatekeeping barriers for every P exclusive set we get.
Well premium is Vanguard dump site format
We say otherwise are premium players huffing copium
Printing a proxy costs me like 10ct it can't be that it costs Bushi that much more to make Harmonics Messiah as well as the shield as a topper maybe even all the Cray units
As someone who felt exploited due to being a genesis high rarity collector when keeping my collection upto date with minerva SNR, I already raised the alarm on the idea they don't care how players feel or how much they end up spending on a single card.
Only issue is. This was a niche problem exclusive to rarity hunters, some people have detached themselves from rarity collecting and abandoned the hobby because of how toxic it got from V onwards since PBD SNR was introduced.
Harmonics on the other hand is far cheaper and bothers me less on a personal level of picking up, but it's a wider struggle for the community and also just makes it more obvious to normal players the things I woke up to back then as a collector. They slide the Overton window and there is no defined boundary on what is doing justice for the segments of players they have.
Due to this. Players will perceive this hobby as a bear trap because of the lack of stability knowing the rug can be pulled and everything they accumulate will feel shitty if they are missing something, whether it's a card for the collection or a card they need for the deck to feel fair.
I was thinking of going back to the premium format, but the accessibility of Harmonics Messiah totally put me off...
This is what upsets me most about the consequences.
But that isn't to say we have more consistently seen hard sell cost consuming practices in more recent D product.
create guardian shield then create ace card that uses it at little pull rate not equal up,
it defiantly is a horrid decision not increasing it , i guess a higher up just didnt let that part increase in box
Really makes it feel like a pyramid scheme.
Makes you wonder if that higher up even cares about the game and wellbeing of the players who keep them relevant, or if they are only interested in funding their luxury normie lifestyle at a distance away from their nerdy fans who they live off the backs of. Because these decisions scream contempt towards the players.
2 a case, was some scummy shit
It is.
To not have much regard for the players who show dedication to the game and pull something like this is inexcusable.
Collectors and deck builders have both felt disrespected by these sort of stunts particularly when there is too little to defend it.
Even for standard format I find it hard to stay in tbf. I joined last year and reality kicked in hard. The one shop that was originally close to me with Vanguard (30 mins away) closed down and the only place with promos is 50 to an hour away for me. Only 2 decks are topping in standard and it's kinda boring to deal with. Promos are a nightmare to deal with to go along with said reprints because Minerva's promo is constantly boughtout or way too expensive to justify making me jump ship to Pokemon again. Vanguard is fun, but too expensive
Yeah the game is genuinely fun to play atm but it is being ruined by shitty business decisions.
It really doesn't commit seriously enough to growth anymore.
Even without Messiah, the set is just awful to open. 3 cards and 2 of them are common. Not to mention, the new strides with all that text are HIDEOUS. You can't even see what the unit is doing in the card art anymore. This product was just not well thought out.
100% correct on this sadly when a friend was starting the game I gave him 4 of the promo and when he quit he ripped up all the cards. But one thing to mention. I’m not sure about you but I’m having trouble just finding the new harmonics messiah let alone have the money to buy one.
Damn wtf why did he do that.
There is no necessity to the low ratios that is for sure. It just seemed like people went into a senior board meeting and decided how to milk this set and flip more cases, I am sure the idea of how the players would feel didn't end up in those conversations.
It's also why I think something as toxic to genesis collectors like me as like Minerva SNR could have materialised. Or banning tahro and destroying genesis. Difference is we are a marginalised and niche group. Harmonics Messiah pisses off everyone.
I only decided to step up and speak out due to how low the volume has been on this crisis. We can't let people get away with awful behaviour like this.
I have seen multiple instances, contrary to the enjoyment of the game and products. Where it feels like sociopaths come up with some of these ideas lacking in any emotional intelligence.
@@astralsusanoo9906 I has been something I have noticed. I decided to work on my own TCG and as i decided for market research on other companies its something i have seen quite common with tcgs but not as blatant as this
Bushiroad is perhaps the most fascinating example of a card game company that hates its players.
Hasbro and Wizards, Konami etc get a lot of flak but I’ve never seen a company pull it off like Bushiroad.
They outright ignore the playerbase’s wishes to secure short term profits.
Everyone saw the Harmonics price issue coming with 2 per case, we knew it was a terrible idea and they didn’t listen.
The absolute scum practice of making Elementaria a TD promo to force people to buy useless product for a promo.
Standard’s promo hell that we still haven’t gotten out of.
The recent banlist which has every player scratching their heads over why hit Jet and Eva when Deeva and Willista run the format now?
Bushiroad seems to actively hate its players, which is so unique for a TCG company.
This isn’t getting into the biggest issue, Overtriggers, which literally every single competitive player has been asking to be banned since they were revealed 3 years ago, and not only does Bushi not ban them but they make new ones of them cover cards of the recent standard product.
It’s reductive to say this but I have no other way to describe it.
Bushiroad can best be described with the meme of “my goals are beyond your understanding.”
Honestly I was pretty ok with most of the history collection. Could have been an amazing gateway for new Premium players and those who are just looking for shiny SP's or erratas.
But the Harmonics was an absolute mistake. It should have been 1 copy per box. Making a mandatory card for Premium with a low pull rate...whoever thought of that idea should be fired.
But I think this is all by design. Bushi has way too many cardgames at the moment, and right now, they are having a heavy focus on Shadowverse.
And they are planning ANOTHER game next year.
I think they intend to kill Premium and V Premium just so that they can focus on Standard and not be bothered as much with the different Vanguard formats.
That is a terrifying thought if vg gets quality compromised.
It is hard to say if it will damage the game or not. Unless resources are pulled away.
My bigger concern is whether the people in control are sharing the same passion as us and don't see it only from a money making perspective. Which is how some recent decisions come across.
The ethics is what matters foremost imo as it guides the rest of its future.
I believe that the amount of newcomers to premium is almost non-existant and the premium player will slowly but surely decrease. IMO with the releasing of stride decks, Bushiroad is trying to not only get back veteran players returning to the game but also to nostalgia bait the the premium players to transit fully to standard. Even JP scene is abandonning P. At this point I'm just thinking Bushiroad has been deliberately making bad products 😂
This is a good theory, I forgot I saw this suggested before. D Masergear Dragon doesn't feel like a proper premium card since its high roll without a rideline.
Can't say for sure what the intent will be in the end or where we end up, but lets challenge them whenever they do things to the detriment of Premium.
Tbf I also got more into D with Minerva.
@@astralsusanoo9906 I mean V is on the brink of being fully discontinued and V products are til now also major supports for Premium. With V being shut down, the logical consequence would be Premium being stalled and eventually would meet the same ending. Supporting both format is still not sustainable enough for the long run. Tbf I miss two-days events in the past.
@@astralsusanoo9906premium is a dump site format for bushi. They don't care. As long as standard is fine they won't lift a finger
I just don't know why everyone is calling them greedy NOW. Taking away sps a box, and making FFR 3 a case is so greedy. I'm not disagreeing with your points but D has had a lot of greedy decisions.
You may be correct.
Given a pattern of behaviour seen with rrr changing in d set 4, then reduction of sps in d set 5, complete removal and rebranding in d set 6, almost like the purpose is to confuse and look less blatant that they took away. Furthermore, the handling of trial decks with blitz order pgs pushing them rather than the merit of the actual decks which had their main bosses replaced fast. All a short span of time. Plus chase cards going from r to rrr.
There is always a part of me that tries to consider if the previous model was working, even for stores and those opening boxes. But seeing things like harmonics really doesn't help when trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
The shift to nations i always felt was more to do with money making than actual gameplay by pushing every booster to a clan collector. We have seen attempt to push generics with cray and nation strides during the v era premium sets.
They are things players do notice.
It seems like after Keita Mori left Bushiroad, they started to relapse back to their old ways.
@@Chaos_Para-DX Thi sis exactly what happened. I mean look at the difference in banlists since he left :(
I used to have the promos. I might have lost them in my move as I didn’t think they were important.
yeah nobody saw them as so. Errata was so unheard of too.
tbf a lot of things have happened that people gave up the idea of, I think V era did take away imagination and make it easier to see it as hard sell new cards and forget the old, until that changed and legacy was looked at more again as D was coming in.
SP pull rates didn't increase, it's 4 per case in both Japanese and English unfortunately.
I see, thank you for that.
I had been hearing it increased from others.
I miss the days of early D, 1 SP per box. Better times. *deepsigh*@@astralsusanoo9906
$68 at times of me watching. Only going to get more expensive until a reprint.
100%
The low voice about it might come because Europe is not targeted by this yet.
Europe has a huge player based in Vanguard and Cardmarket still didnt update yet, hence the european market still waits for the sales to happen.
I heard from many player that they still hope for the prices to be lower, since EU prices generally are lower.
Actually, cardmarket has been pretty bad in many instances compared to TCGplayer.
It is quite common to see users meme around and put 'scalper' prices just for the sake of it, rather than follow market history trends. Once a card dries up then those meme prices are taken more seriously. But then when you look over to tcgplayer it is cheaper in a lot of cases.
I think Harmonics will likely go up because supply is low compared to demand, and so cases will be repeatedly opened (unless people just quit and tap out, but singles sellers will probably be incentivised if there are still premium players wanting it) until all cards are worthless except Harmonics who will carry more value since everything else is too hard to flip.
Which ironically may make all those harder to get reprint commons easy to find and lack an actual reprint protection.
But yeah, CM doesn't seem to have Harmonics still I noticed. Europe also pays more for the game, UK gets really bad. It really is a downside of this game having a centralised factory in South East Asia.
Your first mistake is thinking that bushiroad cares about growing premium.
It's sad. The amount of times players end up feeling that way.
I am still a premium or bust guy. I will never exclusively play a rotation format and will always demand standards with the eternal format.
@astralsusanoo9906 As you should
Eternal formats are essential. No one wants to be told "your cards are worthless now. Buy everything again."
Maybe this is Bushiroad's scheme to push players away from premium by pretending to pander towards the premium base. However, they were too short sighted to realize the promo paywall for standard and potentially pushing players away from that format too.
@mhz3317 yeah this was what I was saying all the time when the v reboot started. I was vocal online before I had this channel to pushback against those who enabled premium's demise. Wanted people to think ethics more.
@tricorn54 yeah we have seen multiple times players flock to v over P being perceived as toxic or inaccessible including by those who never played P and just remember shiranui or heritage from G. Even Bermuda. But then that does make it seem like a convenient way to end g to condition people into thinking that v happened because gz was broken (disputable) even though v was planned before gz was released.
3 cards in a booster is shit
For the price per pack it is. But I don't care to have clutter sets either where we pay for junk.
30 boxes a case though is a bit cringe.
I mean good.
Premium SHOULD have a higher barrier to entry.
Standard and V exists for newer and less skilled players.
You do realize a higher barrier of entry means less overall players and less tournament turnouts? This is a horrible take lol.
@@naytny5819 That is my point, yes.
We need to keep Premium as the PREMIERE competitive format.
Less players, more expensive so only the best of the best of the best can compete and do well in the format
@@Deingel12 You still can't have a strong competitive scene witthout a few casual players that's not how these things go.
@@naytny5819 Why would I want casuals in Vanguard's only competitive format?
they can go play V or D
@@Deingel12 Because casuals are still a large part of the community, and would help tournaments with more players and therefore bigger prize turnouts?