I see some deprecating comments about the…cinematography…but I fully understand-and APPRECIATE-the effort you gave to try and show all you could in such a short amount of time! I’ve been around a lot of stationary engineering spaces (co-gen plants, huge natural gas compressor stations, nuclear power prototype units, coal-fired power plants). This would be a fascinating tour for me! 😀👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Steve. And thank you for your uplifting comments. Yes I was in a hurry at the time, and had to just run through there. In my latest video I try to have a more gentle walkthrough, and to have a look at more systems.
@@pkal244 hi, it was filmed with a Samsung S21 Ultra. 4K 60fps. Often I have very short time to make these videos, and that is why it looks a little hasty. Future videos will be with a Gopro 12 also in 4K 60fps. It has better stabilizer than the phone.
@@andresteinum nice 👍 Thanks for clarifying. When the video looks this good I'm curious what people use. Coming from a GoPro myself consider using a DJI Osmo Pocket 3. GoPro is fixed focus so things will look blurry up close, and their software is so anti-consumer it's crazy. Osmo also has a bigger CMOS sensor so it will perform much better in low light. Subscribed, keep em coming! 👍
I’m a 64 year old Mech Eng and nearly always request a look around the engine room of every ferry I’ve ever been on. More often than not the Chief is delighted to accommodate my request. It’s a brothers in Engineering thing I guess!
It is overwhelming at first, but 95% of the work revolves around 5% of the stuff in there. And the documentation is astoundingly elaborate, at least on the ones I've worked on.
Extremely impressive and fascinating. And super clean. Not a speck of dust anywhere. Complex engineering at its best! I'm sure changing the crankcase oil on those behemoths is challenging!
The oil is constantly fed through filters and purifiers, so you just top it up when it gets low. Working on these kinds of engines is fantastic though. I've been inside the oil sump of one of these, to change a piston. It still blows my mind to this day.
👍 I’ve been a ships engineer for 8 years. Never been on a cruise but if I ever would, is it then possible to get a tour a tour trough the engine room and other technical spaces? For me it would be the main reason to book one. I can hardly believe I would enjoy the rest of the cruise experience, much to many people on board.
My thoughts EXACTLY! My wife and I were given a Disney cruise to the Bahamas next May for a Christmas present. Disney. 🤮🤮 (I keep those sentiments to myself, you understand 😄). But there will be two things on my mind on that cruise: how many FISH I could wet a hook for, and could I be allowed in the ENGINEERING spaces! They can have the rest of the silly “mickey mouse” BS! 😄😄
@@schautamatic I hear Disney cruises is the best when you go with small kids... but I have never been on one myself. I bet there is a pianobar there where you can drink to forget... he he.
I've spent time in 4 different ships engine rooms decades ago, but this "takes the cake", this engine room would be more interesting to me than the rest of the ship and all it's foolishness put together...
I noticed in the video before I read the description that this must a ship where large diesel powered generators generators generate electricity to supply electrical power to the ship and power to large motors that turn the screws to drive the ship. This is different from some other videos where a large diesel engine drives the screws and smaller diesel engines drive the electricity generators to supply electrical power to the ship.
Your observations are correct. Some ships even have one or more large engines that is directly connected to the screw with a shaft. But also have a shaft generator connected to it, so they can turn off the smaller generators when the ship is sailing. Soon I will visit a ship that has four main engines. Two and two are directly connected to two gearboxes that in turn is powering two main propeller shafts. Hope to make a video of it all.
The military vessel that I served on weighted 2500 tons and had 45000 hp, it was a LOT faster than this ship that I think is seriously underpowered. The old SS United States had over 200,000 hp (well over) and a cargo ship of this size would have over 50,000 hp, large Panamax ships have about 60,000 hp and post panamax ships generally have about 80,000. Large tankers generally have a little over 100,000 hp. Most cargo ships and tankers have only one main engine, a large very slow turning (about 100 rpm) diesel that turns a large (20+ ft) single prop directly. Most are 2 cycle diesels that are direct reversing (reversing accomplished by stopping the engine and then restarting it in the reverse direction). Cruise ships generally don't go very fast but sometimes weather or schedule events make it necessary to speed up. going about 20 knts. Remember too that one of these engine generators is running all of the time to make electric for the ships hotel and A/C load. The way this vessel is engineered you would need all on line to reach full speed, no spares. Usually ships can operate with one genset down for routine maintenance not to speak of unscheduled repairs. Cargo vessels generally have separate gensets for vessel electric although many have a generator that can couple to the main engine while cruising.
They are out for lunch when I filmed. But there is not swarming crew around in modern enginerooms. These are reliable engines that have regular service intervals.
@@andresteinum How much training do you do? Since there is obviously a lot of down time due to reliability of equipment as you state do you conduct on shift emergency action training or corrective action training?
@@HarryPost-o9c I am not a part of the crew onboard. I am a service engineer that go from ship to ship. But I know the crew do alot of regular emergency drills etc. But ship engine service training I am not so sure about. On these big cruise ships they normally have capacity to have one or two engines out of service, and they call in specialist mechanical crew from either the ship company or from the engine maker to do major repair etc. The engine crew is also highly educated and experienced crew, so they are capable of performing most service themself also.
A few things, where would the air intake be? I didn't see a Crew running these engines. You're going down all these steps and I'm thinking....you have to climb them all back up!
4:08 to 4:17, the round kind of blue thing is the air inlet for the engines, two of them for a twin turbo. As for the engine room, you usually have enormous fans on one of the upper floors with conducts all around the engine room pushing air into the engine room to ensure a positive pressure at all times
When the ship sinks does this mean you have to climb back up all those stairs to get out, or do they have an Escape Hatch down there like in "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea?"
Very good question. Yes they have multiple escape routes. Also watertight doors that will keep the ship afloat. Funfact: the automatically closing watertight doors is so powerful they will split you in two if you get caught when it is closing.
Hi Would it not be more efficient and save space to use 1 low speed engine as in a container ship rather than multiple medium speed engines or is it just a case of redundancy Great vid keep up the good work
It's not just about propulsion on a cruise ship. You have to think in terms of powering a small city. There are several thousand needy people on board.
Guess is between three and six hundred RPM. Locomotive engines - which are a fair bit smaller, though still *very* large - turn up to about 850 to 1000. Those have between 250 to 300 mm of stroke. My guess is the ones in the vid, here, have about twice that.
@@dennisyoung4631 *400 to 600, 300 would be a little low. More precisely 400, 450, 514 or 600. Reason is that the Engines drive 60 Hz AC Generators, so the Synchronous RPM must be a Fraction of 3600. My best Bet would be 514 RPM, given my Experience with similarly-sized MAN L58/64 Engines and what I have heard about the MaK M43C Engines at AIDA Cruises.
Wow! Look @ all that equipment and wonder how and where it's all made! And to think someday that ship will be run aground in a ship breaking yard as scrap. Shame.
The equipment is made all around the world. Giving jobs and technology to thousands of people. When a ship is in service, it gives work and pleasure to many thousand of people as well. And when it is scrapped it also gives work to many people. The metals are recycled and may be used in building of new ships. Many parts are used to keep other ships in service also. The ships lives a cycle of life, in many aspecs the same as humans.
Forgive my ignorance but are those magnificent engines powering generators for electric propulsion engines,as I didn’t see propeller shafts.Even on the English canal system were I cruise my canal boat they are going hybrid and full electric propulsion obviously the way to go.Brilliant video thanks.
Instead of a stationary propeller, driving pods or propellers, that can swivel around in different directions independently or together to move the ship. And I don’t mean the propeller itself I mean the entire propeller (pod) can swivel to certain degrees to enhance steering.
From few information I had have gotten, there was a new method of generating electricity by the waves. The scientist n engineers are working closely together to develop an alternative way of producing electricity by the waves. Perhaps we could see the transformation being made by the industries where the things would probably being attached at the back of the ship so it would reduces the fuel consumption which was used to heat the water in produces the steam. Whatever it is, let's race towards decarbonization for better future.
Thermodynamics. Any energy gained from pulling something behind the ship will require as much, and likely more energy to pull it. There is no free energy.
@@tomfuelery2905 of course there will be a cost to bear with but the the things can be easily get for free. Instead of what we had doing now drilling the earth to extract the oil , somethings far more better is needed for that particular reason.
All these machines and generators do not only to turn the propellers, but also to support life and comfort to the passengers. They generate power to the ship that has thousands of guests and crew. There is alot of stuff down in the engineroom that does interesting stuff. From turning saltwater to freshwater. Taking care of and minimizing the amount of sewage. Heating water from waste heat from the engines. And stabilizers that keep the ship from rocking in the waves.
I see some deprecating comments about the…cinematography…but I fully understand-and APPRECIATE-the effort you gave to try and show all you could in such a short amount of time! I’ve been around a lot of stationary engineering spaces (co-gen plants, huge natural gas compressor stations, nuclear power prototype units, coal-fired power plants). This would be a fascinating tour for me! 😀👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Steve. And thank you for your uplifting comments. Yes I was in a hurry at the time, and had to just run through there. In my latest video I try to have a more gentle walkthrough, and to have a look at more systems.
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@@andresteinumI thought the video quality was great! Was this on an iPhone in Ultrawide mode, or a GoPro?
@@pkal244 hi, it was filmed with a Samsung S21 Ultra. 4K 60fps. Often I have very short time to make these videos, and that is why it looks a little hasty. Future videos will be with a Gopro 12 also in 4K 60fps. It has better stabilizer than the phone.
@@andresteinum nice 👍 Thanks for clarifying. When the video looks this good I'm curious what people use.
Coming from a GoPro myself consider using a DJI Osmo Pocket 3. GoPro is fixed focus so things will look blurry up close, and their software is so anti-consumer it's crazy.
Osmo also has a bigger CMOS sensor so it will perform much better in low light. Subscribed, keep em coming! 👍
I’m a 64 year old Mech Eng and nearly always request a look around the engine room of every ferry I’ve ever been on. More often than not the Chief is delighted to accommodate my request. It’s a brothers in Engineering thing I guess!
Cleanest engine room I have ever seen.
It is a new ship!
Amazing how much skill and knowledge the engineers have to maintain all that machinery.
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It is overwhelming at first, but 95% of the work revolves around 5% of the stuff in there. And the documentation is astoundingly elaborate, at least on the ones I've worked on.
Sometimes they don’t
Thank you very much I always want to see a video with the MAK 43C series in operation very nicely done
Thanks for posting this, fascinating. It looks like a massive factory or power station. Hard to believe all this is actually floating!
I was thinking the same thing
the complexity of this ship is amazing and to design and build so that it performs is even more so.
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these 12 cylinder 12v43c mak caterpillar engines are good nice recording up close of engine room.
Wow, 12.6MW engines, each cylinder produces the same power as a Model S Plaid. I wish the engine room on my boat looked that nice haha
Impressive, the engine room is so clean you could eat off the floor! 😉
The camera moves as if I was there looking around, that is a very spiffy engine room. 👌😉
Wait until it's in use for a while and then see how clean it remains. :-)
This is an awesome video. The whole thing is very relaxing. The sound and sights.
Thank you. Make sure to check out my other videos also.
thenk you so very Much something most of us will not if never experience. cheers
The noise down there must be incredible.
The noise will break your head if you sail with it 9 months and it wan make you deff tho.
Impressive, leaves you speechless!
Extremely impressive and fascinating. And super clean. Not a speck of dust anywhere. Complex engineering at its best! I'm sure changing the crankcase oil on those behemoths is challenging!
The oil is constantly fed through filters and purifiers, so you just top it up when it gets low. Working on these kinds of engines is fantastic though. I've been inside the oil sump of one of these, to change a piston. It still blows my mind to this day.
A long way down there!
The long way down is because he is coming from the funnel and taking stairs to the very very bottom of the ship
Brilliant! I think the amount of motion is perfect too.
The engineering is a marvel the minds behind it
So far down. Wow. Cool. Watching from Ontario Canada 😮
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I’ve been a ships engineer for 8 years. Never been on a cruise but if I ever would, is it then possible to get a tour a tour trough the engine room and other technical spaces?
For me it would be the main reason to book one. I can hardly believe I would enjoy the rest of the cruise experience, much to many people on board.
Yes some cruiseships offer a tour in the deep. I know that Celebrity cruises offer this, but just ask the travel agent before you book.
My thoughts EXACTLY! My wife and I were given a Disney cruise to the Bahamas next May for a Christmas present.
Disney. 🤮🤮
(I keep those sentiments to myself, you understand 😄). But there will be two things on my mind on that cruise: how many FISH I could wet a hook for, and could I be allowed in the ENGINEERING spaces! They can have the rest of the silly “mickey mouse” BS! 😄😄
@@schautamatic I hear Disney cruises is the best when you go with small kids... but I have never been on one myself. I bet there is a pianobar there where you can drink to forget... he he.
I've spent time in 4 different ships engine rooms decades ago, but this "takes the cake", this engine room would be more interesting to me than the rest of the ship and all it's foolishness put together...
That is massive! WOW!
I thought plant rooms in big commercial buildings were complex but this is another level.
Very cool. And Royal Caribbean Oasis class is 230,000 tons.
All are amazing machines!
I noticed in the video before I read the description that this must a ship where large diesel powered generators generators generate electricity to supply electrical power to the ship and power to large motors that turn the screws to drive the ship. This is different from some other videos where a large diesel engine drives the screws and smaller diesel engines drive the electricity generators to supply electrical power to the ship.
Your observations are correct. Some ships even have one or more large engines that is directly connected to the screw with a shaft. But also have a shaft generator connected to it, so they can turn off the smaller generators when the ship is sailing.
Soon I will visit a ship that has four main engines. Two and two are directly connected to two gearboxes that in turn is powering two main propeller shafts. Hope to make a video of it all.
@@andresteinum looking forward to seeing it!! 😃
depths. Great vid!
Marvel of Engineering par excellence.
Replacing a crankshaft in this type of engine room must be a nightmare! 😀
Forget the crankshaft, imagine having to lift this thing out of the water and unscrew the plug to change the oil!
So clean, I love it
The military vessel that I served on weighted 2500 tons and had 45000 hp, it was a LOT faster than this ship that I think is seriously underpowered. The old SS United States had over 200,000 hp (well over) and a cargo ship of this size would have over 50,000 hp, large Panamax ships have about 60,000 hp and post panamax ships generally have about 80,000. Large tankers generally have a little over 100,000 hp. Most cargo ships and tankers have only one main engine, a large very slow turning (about 100 rpm) diesel that turns a large (20+ ft) single prop directly. Most are 2 cycle diesels that are direct reversing (reversing accomplished by stopping the engine and then restarting it in the reverse direction). Cruise ships generally don't go very fast but sometimes weather or schedule events make it necessary to speed up. going about 20 knts. Remember too that one of these engine generators is running all of the time to make electric for the ships hotel and A/C load. The way this vessel is engineered you would need all on line to reach full speed, no spares. Usually ships can operate with one genset down for routine maintenance not to speak of unscheduled repairs. Cargo vessels generally have separate gensets for vessel electric although many have a generator that can couple to the main engine while cruising.
I love ships engine rooms fascinating places.
Im pretty sure this is the Nieuw Statendam, those engine specs in video description are straight from the Nieuw Statendam Wikipedia page.
The engines themselves aren't that loud all things considered to be honest, which is surprizing to say the least.
Do you get your "10,000 steps" in each shift! Seriously, how many kilometres do you walk each shift do you know?
GRE piping seen - that's maybe for exhaust gas cleaning scrubbers?
Yes they are Martin. Four scrubbers on this ship.
This tour reminds me of walking through a nuclear power plant, without the concrete walls and stairwells. The Azipods were invented in Finland.
Ok, how did u get that pallet down there, or did you build the ship around it ???
There are access shafts for moving large objects.
I got seasick just watching the guy walking down the stairs
How many decks did you descend in that engine room?
You would not want to drop a screw on the upper desks 🙂
FR
who cleans all this pretty good job
No other crew members??
For the first minute, the part he's walking through is called the casing core
Brunel's SS Great Britain was built in 1845, not so long ago really. Mankind’s ingenuity is truly marvellous.
Marvel of engineering 👌
Does it all run itself? Where are the maintenance crew?
They are out for lunch when I filmed. But there is not swarming crew around in modern enginerooms. These are reliable engines that have regular service intervals.
@@andresteinum How much training do you do? Since there is obviously a lot of down time due to reliability of equipment as you state do you conduct on shift emergency action training or corrective action training?
@@HarryPost-o9c I am not a part of the crew onboard. I am a service engineer that go from ship to ship. But I know the crew do alot of regular emergency drills etc. But ship engine service training I am not so sure about. On these big cruise ships they normally have capacity to have one or two engines out of service, and they call in specialist mechanical crew from either the ship company or from the engine maker to do major repair etc. The engine crew is also highly educated and experienced crew, so they are capable of performing most service themself also.
Is that a ship built by Fincantieri?
Lots of stuff down there...
A few things, where would the air intake be? I didn't see a Crew running these engines. You're going down all these steps and I'm thinking....you have to climb them all back up!
4:08 to 4:17, the round kind of blue thing is the air inlet for the engines, two of them for a twin turbo. As for the engine room, you usually have enormous fans on one of the upper floors with conducts all around the engine room pushing air into the engine room to ensure a positive pressure at all times
When the ship sinks does this mean you have to climb back up all those stairs to get out, or do they have an Escape Hatch down there like in "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea?"
Very good question. Yes they have multiple escape routes. Also watertight doors that will keep the ship afloat. Funfact: the automatically closing watertight doors is so powerful they will split you in two if you get caught when it is closing.
The Chief Engineer always sacrifices himself first . I can't imagine finding those 10 stairwells in a blackout , huh ?
@@billrea66 there is emergency back up lighting. Just like in a store if power is lost.
Vessels that large don't sink in seconds or minutes. Unless hit by 4 torpedoes. He has time to climb out.
Amazing video, too bad about the audio. Not sure what the problem was, but recorded well, it would also be an amazing soundscape.
Hi Would it not be more efficient and save space to use 1 low speed engine as in a container ship rather than multiple medium speed engines or is it just a case of redundancy
Great vid keep up the good work
It's not just about propulsion on a cruise ship.
You have to think in terms of powering a small city. There are several thousand needy people on board.
@@tomfuelery2905 hi
I forgot about the needy people
Impressive. I'll start as a 3rd AE. 1AE Motors in hand.
Dropping your keys there is going to suck.
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No keys used. Facial recognition software
What RPM are those engines running at?
Guess is between three and six hundred RPM.
Locomotive engines - which are a fair bit smaller, though still *very* large - turn up to about 850 to 1000. Those have between 250 to 300 mm of stroke.
My guess is the ones in the vid, here, have about twice that.
@@dennisyoung4631 *400 to 600, 300 would be a little low. More precisely 400, 450, 514 or 600. Reason is that the Engines drive 60 Hz AC Generators, so the Synchronous RPM must be a Fraction of 3600. My best Bet would be 514 RPM, given my Experience with similarly-sized MAN L58/64 Engines and what I have heard about the MaK M43C Engines at AIDA Cruises.
Yes 514
Just two of those four MAK's running?
Which Pinnacle-class cruise ship was this? Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam, or Rotterdam?
What is the noise level down there?
It was at the moment not very loud, as the ship was lying still in a port. But usually very loud. Most sound normally comes from the turbines.
I remember. My room was on the other side of the engine room......
Where the heck is everyone.
What no elevator?
Diesel electric. Powering the propulsion units.
I have dreams like this going down down down
Why are all watertight Doors open?
Water tight doors usually are only closed in fire or hull breach. Helps control air pressure within the compartments and allows movement for crew.
@@matth9254 When I worked on passenger ferries all watertight doors were closed as soon as we left port 🤷♂️
Different story in the Atlantic, 1941.
It hasn't hit an iceberg. Yet.
They're in port
What cruise line?
Reminds me of trying to figure out what a.woman wants.
The ancient aliens don't have anything on us today.
Amazes me how its more efficient now to create electricity and then use Electric motors to run the props now...
Just like the engine room of the MS QM2,with 4 Wartzela engine,the propulsion driven by electric motors,3.3kilovolts supply.
Wärtsilä
I thought you were supposed to glide down the staircases in an engine room..?
That is what we normally did. Not even touching the steps
Titanic 2 engine cylinder engineering room diesel engines
Zoo 😢😭😢😭😭😢😭😭😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
A narration would be nice
At least the purifiers are small ufff
Wow! Look @ all that equipment and wonder how and where it's all made! And to think someday that ship will be run aground in a ship breaking yard as scrap. Shame.
The equipment is made all around the world. Giving jobs and technology to thousands of people. When a ship is in service, it gives work and pleasure to many thousand of people as well. And when it is scrapped it also gives work to many people. The metals are recycled and may be used in building of new ships. Many parts are used to keep other ships in service also. The ships lives a cycle of life, in many aspecs the same as humans.
3:17 “DANGER KEEP HANDS CLEAR” But there is no sink.
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What ship is this?
I normally dont say the ship name, for security reasons. But you can guess
Forgive my ignorance but are those magnificent engines powering generators for electric propulsion engines,as I didn’t see propeller shafts.Even on the English canal system were I cruise my canal boat they are going hybrid and full electric propulsion obviously the way to go.Brilliant video thanks.
Driving pods?
Instead of a stationary propeller, driving pods or propellers, that can swivel around in different directions independently or together to move the ship. And I don’t mean the propeller itself I mean the entire propeller (pod) can swivel to certain degrees to enhance steering.
@@davidmorgan8612 must be much easier to manoeuvre the ship with pods.
From few information I had have gotten, there was a new method of generating electricity by the waves. The scientist n engineers are working closely together to develop an alternative way of producing electricity by the waves. Perhaps we could see the transformation being made by the industries where the things would probably being attached at the back of the ship so it would reduces the fuel consumption which was used to heat the water in produces the steam. Whatever it is, let's race towards decarbonization for better future.
Thermodynamics.
Any energy gained from pulling something behind the ship will require as much, and likely more energy to pull it.
There is no free energy.
@@tomfuelery2905 of course there will be a cost to bear with but the the things can be easily get for free. Instead of what we had doing now drilling the earth to extract the oil , somethings far more better is needed for that particular reason.
What are depts? I have never heard of such a thing.
Depths. The "h" is missing.
Do the main engines turn clockwise or counterclockwise?
This is only the 2 engine compartmens or a quater of the entire engine room.
All that machinery just to turn propeller?
All these machines and generators do not only to turn the propellers, but also to support life and comfort to the passengers. They generate power to the ship that has thousands of guests and crew. There is alot of stuff down in the engineroom that does interesting stuff. From turning saltwater to freshwater. Taking care of and minimizing the amount of sewage. Heating water from waste heat from the engines. And stabilizers that keep the ship from rocking in the waves.
I feel sorry for the service engineer who tries to do service job for the turbochargers... Not seeing any platforms there 🤔
It's called fall restraint (retractable) and climbing. Lol
How to not get lost, in a vessel like that? Pufff
Over 10 decks of mechanical.
Running on LNG, I hope?
Nope. HFO. Much smarter.
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Let’s see shaft alley and the evaps. More videos.
frrr
Say your prayers now! Cuz if she sinks or capsized you ain't comming home what a maze
You too. If a meteor hits, your home will be part of a big fireball.
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this is the rotterdam ship holland america lines
clean and squared away
Give me the Titanic anyday
Should have provided a lift in the
E/R ,
I'm gonna bet these engines are louder in person
Don't see a prop. Shaft, must be Azioods?
Scary, when you think there are 200,000+ ton ships out there.....
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Aren't you supposed to go down the steps backwards " on a ship 🤔
Not unless you want to go everywhere slow
Having served on ships, no.
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And not one person to be seen...