Dilemmas of the Black male identity | Tommy Curry

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  • @TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas
    @TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas  2 роки тому +13

    Should we do away with intersectionality within the study and dismantling of racism?
    To watch more of our content head over to iai.tv/video/tommy-curry-dilemmas-of-blac-manhood?UA-cam&+comment

  • @desert7352
    @desert7352 2 роки тому +110

    Tommy Curry is Brilliant

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 Рік тому

      08:25 who ?

    • @jcjcviews
      @jcjcviews Рік тому +5

      You better be prepared if you step into the ring. Curry will knock you out.

    • @thecaynuck
      @thecaynuck Рік тому

      Not when he advocated for the killing of white people. Not very smart.

    • @jcjcviews
      @jcjcviews Рік тому

      @@thecaynuck Yeah, that's not right if Doctor Curry advocates genocide. I'd like to see you prove this, however. Show me where it's at? Why haven't you? Because, if true, this would mean: 1. Curry is stupid and should be retired immediately, or 2. Is he a homicidal maniac no? In either case, he needs to go now.
      Wait, there's more; for A PROFESSOR, especially threatening even one individual, never mind advocating for us to kill ALL WHITE PEOPLE, THIS is a BIG DEAL.
      So, could you back up what you say here or remove it and apologize profusely? I understand that Dr. Curry felt that his life was in danger which caused him to leave "his" country.
      So, now that you have a couple words to question your integrity and intelligence, please let us hear from you IMMEDIATELY. Thank you for your comment --- statement of fact, opinion, or belief system.
      We need to find out how someone could make such a statement believing it would go unnoticed. Touche. Hahaha

    • @ws3369
      @ws3369 Рік тому +1

      He's actually racist trash

  • @HowardWimshurst
    @HowardWimshurst Рік тому +18

    Wow, this professor has opened my eyes. I was taught in sociology about racial femenism - black women were pictured as being at the bottom of the social heirarchy, and i never questioned that until now.
    Also a really important contribution to the discussion around color blindness.
    Learning so much from this man
    Even more impressive that he told me all of this in one unpunctuated sentence 🤯

    • @j.gyamayaka5826
      @j.gyamayaka5826 11 місяців тому +2

      Much respect 💪🏾💯

    • @natek.9875
      @natek.9875 6 місяців тому

      Dude literally advocates for the murder of non-blacks in the name of blacks. I think you should find some better role models. Just ask Texas A&M, USC in Cali, or James Madison... They all faced huge backlash for posting those hateful speeches online...

  • @kinglexicon3924
    @kinglexicon3924 2 роки тому +46

    Well done, Dr. Curry.

    • @jcjcviews
      @jcjcviews Рік тому

      Is Dr. Curry being accused of killing white people? And we thought that he was such a nice guy. I'm so disappointed. We never know, I guess. I wrote to the person who broke the news and the family, and we are anxious for a reply.

  • @OnCloud7188
    @OnCloud7188 Рік тому +11

    I’m grateful to have come across this interview!

  • @Kwasimitsu
    @Kwasimitsu 2 роки тому +33

    Great interview. I appreciate the long form format so we hear the subjects entire position on a given point. Dr Curry is a huge gain for European scholarship, and a loss for the US for certain.

    • @Seancarter2010
      @Seancarter2010 Рік тому +9

      It’s truly our loss. He’s honestly my favorite scholar

    • @jrshield7793
      @jrshield7793 Рік тому +3

      We (Americans) don't deserve him.

  • @jamesstephens9702
    @jamesstephens9702 Рік тому +19

    Dr Curry arguments are very well throughout and informative.

  • @rhondawoodhouse5508
    @rhondawoodhouse5508 Рік тому +3

    Heartfelt appreciation for Dr. Curry!🙏🏾

  • @herbertharris7316
    @herbertharris7316 Рік тому +16

    Great interview with Professor Tommy Curry. He speaks with historical, investigative and logical facts and information. Thanks Dr. T. Curry!

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 Рік тому

      Who are the names mentioned at 16:30

    • @syanlopez1
      @syanlopez1 Рік тому

      @@omalone1169 Derrick Bell, Linda Greene, Kenneth Nunn, Richard Delgado, Jean Stefancic

  • @TeddyLove01
    @TeddyLove01 Рік тому +6

    Happy I came across this interview especially with the recent Twitter comments

  • @sixeladadon
    @sixeladadon 2 роки тому +22

    This is was a really good watch which put a lot of things context

  • @kantankafinejewellersinc.1879
    @kantankafinejewellersinc.1879 Рік тому +10

    incredible information.

    • @ws3369
      @ws3369 Рік тому

      If you're retarded

  • @joefromdc
    @joefromdc 2 роки тому +40

    It would be correct too say, feminist scholars have continually gotten a past even when history doesn't support their claims. That in itself is practicing racism at its highest

    • @ynotlearn4190
      @ynotlearn4190 2 роки тому

      Wouldn’t practicing racism at its highest be genocide?

    • @northa3617
      @northa3617 2 роки тому +4

      The definition of feminism is "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.". Are you opposed to this?

    • @kapriece
      @kapriece Рік тому +17

      @@northa3617 yes we're opposed to it bc no one is operating under this definition. Feminism has been co-opted by misandry and racism. It's about control and destroying men. There's no equality in that or anything feminist argue for. Y'all want the positives and avoid the negatives of being equal to men. Do your homework before you come for men in the comments. You just proved what he said was right.

    • @Seancarter2010
      @Seancarter2010 Рік тому

      @@northa3617 is that the definition? Well tell me do you see any examples of that being the practice. All policies and initiatives isn’t to be on par or equal to men it’s to surpass us ie “The Future is Female”

    • @jrshield7793
      @jrshield7793 Рік тому +7

      @North In his most recent work, Curry argues that 'by looking at the primary racial target of feminist thought and activism over the centuries, the Black male, scholars can more accurately trace the theories feminists used to derail Black American’s struggle for civil rights'

  • @rosediddynorelation4824
    @rosediddynorelation4824 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this, something to come back in and meditate to

  • @jamessheffield4173
    @jamessheffield4173 Рік тому +4

    My black grandson was baptized in the church, became an acolyte, his mother joined the choir, and church women said we would like him to go to the church school with their children, so we applied for the 6th grade, and he was rejected, saying he was a behavior problem. I don't know how he could be before being in the school, but if true don't you offer some kind of help? The worse part was the silence, no one said they were sorry he was rejected, I believe it was because they knew why. I later asked one of his teachers, a white male. and his answer was we still have racism. I did get a call from the rector, not the headmaster, saying it wasn't because he was black. Again, he didn't say he was sorry he didn't get in, just don't badmouth the parish, I later send an Email with Matt 18: 6, then received a nice letter saying to change my membership. I love the Episcopal Church and want him confirmed, but don't dare risk him again. The good news that in his current school he is getting all kinds of awards. The principal just took him out for lunch the other day. To be estranged from the church and being afraid to take a grandchild to church is not pleasant. Where is the Episcopal Church welcomes you for him? Pax Christi.

  • @everydaychristian8932
    @everydaychristian8932 Рік тому +3

    Excellent content from Tommy Curry

  • @marlonsmith1400
    @marlonsmith1400 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant work Tommy Curry

  • @matttate920
    @matttate920 2 роки тому +7

    Well said.

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 Рік тому

      23:00 when he talks about popularity

  • @marjoriekaye9336
    @marjoriekaye9336 2 роки тому +33

    Seems like there is a definite guilt component in the degree of lashing out and transference from the white power structure/state to individual black men in the U.S. Great video, a lot to think about.

    • @KtotheG
      @KtotheG 2 роки тому +3

      What is your basis for this statement? Is it just your gut feeling?

    • @Onserio.
      @Onserio. 2 роки тому +3

      How?

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 Рік тому

      @@Onserio. why?

  • @asage5801
    @asage5801 Рік тому +5

    Brilliant. However, in this day and time i fear that his thought process is too nuanced to be digested by the masses. What to do now?

    • @gravydale
      @gravydale 8 місяців тому +1

      Hell of a question that I struggle with as well

    • @marsmith1907
      @marsmith1907 2 місяці тому

      Make it easier to digest... on your own.

  • @actualmovement345
    @actualmovement345 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant (yes)! However, tagging Dr. Curry's work as "brilliant" (full stop)... is an effort below curve!
    The "brilliant" global machine that his work speaks to is reinforced
    by an unprecedented military apparatus functioning in purpose for the regulation of (said) "brilliance"... into academia!
    Indeed, Dr Curry's "BRILLIANCE"
    is (adjectively) lifting, reforming, transforming... expression "AUDACITY!" (Gvn💐Now!)👏🏾

  • @vividill08
    @vividill08 2 роки тому +8

    Salute

  • @darrenpalmer4847
    @darrenpalmer4847 5 місяців тому +1

    This was a great talk by Professor Curry. Kudos! My only hope is that he stops using the term Black, at some point. They is a colonial term too. All it does is frames our lives against the concept of White... By doing that , we always end up vulnerable to the dragon's tail...

  • @home1250
    @home1250 Рік тому

    I feel like there’s a context that he’s responding to pointed questions here that the edit may be throwing viewers off with

  • @LyfeIsShortLive
    @LyfeIsShortLive 4 місяці тому +1

  • @justicewilson7929
    @justicewilson7929 8 місяців тому +1

    🔥

  • @enjoy-ly7zw
    @enjoy-ly7zw Рік тому +1

    🙏🏾

  • @bloodstone816
    @bloodstone816 Рік тому

    Axé

  • @merur1
    @merur1 2 роки тому +1

    10:41

  • @dr.samuelburbanks4905
    @dr.samuelburbanks4905 2 роки тому +10

    Damn was it cold? I see mist coming out his mouth.

  • @jaytea22
    @jaytea22 Рік тому +1

    I would love to see Dr. Curry talk to Jordan Peterson

    • @InternetLawman
      @InternetLawman 4 місяці тому +3

      If you perceive any semblance of similarity between Jordan Peterson and Dr. Curry, I would urge you to delve into their respective writings. It seems you harbor a profound misunderstanding of their distinct philosophies.

  • @PassportGods
    @PassportGods 2 місяці тому

    6:05.

  • @jamessheffield4173
    @jamessheffield4173 Рік тому

    Virtue signaling is great, but no one does anything.

    • @vg1024
      @vg1024 3 місяці тому +1

      To virtue signal is to signal you're in lock step with an already accepted and popular ideology, nothing Curry talks about is a virtue signal.

    • @jamessheffield4173
      @jamessheffield4173 3 місяці тому

      @@vg1024 Glad you think so. Blessings.

  • @DerekFullerWhoIsGovt
    @DerekFullerWhoIsGovt Рік тому

    🌋🌋

  • @raymondjennings8707
    @raymondjennings8707 Рік тому +4

    While I largely agree with curry, I do not agree with the claim that only men have been on the receiving end of racial stereotyping. Several historical examples exist for racialized women as well, particularly in regards to sexual characteristics etc.

    • @christiandouyon9739
      @christiandouyon9739 Рік тому +4

      I don't he was speaking in absolute terms. He merely explained that the brunt of racial stereotyping was taken by black men. I don't think anyone could reasonnably argue black women didn't suffer from it as well.

    • @raymondjennings8707
      @raymondjennings8707 Рік тому +1

      @@christiandouyon9739 makes sense. I’m a black man so i feel the weight of that everyday. I’m glad he’s honestly speaking on it, there aren’t many scholars who center us in this light

    • @christiandouyon9739
      @christiandouyon9739 Рік тому

      @@raymondjennings8707 True enough

    • @InternetLawman
      @InternetLawman 4 місяці тому +1

      Where did he say only men? Can you time stamp that?

    • @marsmith1907
      @marsmith1907 2 місяці тому

      ​@@raymondjennings8707don't worry. Your mother isn't going to whoop you.

  • @njgiant1
    @njgiant1 11 місяців тому +1

    Look at my FBA brother working that high IQ ✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾

  • @Myhandle718
    @Myhandle718 7 місяців тому

    “Curry” is his last name and he looks south Asian to me. 😂😂 that’s funny

    • @marsmith1907
      @marsmith1907 2 місяці тому

      Lost by the topic, we see.

  • @amiramaz
    @amiramaz Місяць тому

    Your are very wrong. Race is a not logically consistent in any way. Not in genetic studies, not in cultural studies. He is obsessed and should be fired

  • @SvenErik_Lindstrom3
    @SvenErik_Lindstrom3 11 місяців тому

    Can I identify as a black man even though I am white?

  • @bens5859
    @bens5859 2 роки тому

    Ugh ok...is it possible that racial disparities are due to a COMBINATION of factors? That perhaps historical/contemporary discrimination is responsible for some portion of the disparities we observe, AND that "pathologies" or maladaptive cultural norms are responsible for another portion?
    Is it possible that different disparities (of which there are many--wealth, representation, incarceration, etc.) are due to different levels of discrimination vs "pathology" vs historical codified racism and its ripple effects...?
    If not, how do we know that? What's the empirical evidence demonstrating the extent of, say, present-day prejudice on racial disparity in the US?

    • @Dr.Speller
      @Dr.Speller 2 роки тому +15

      Oh, visit academic journals & primary sources and you will find evidence to support claims of present-day prejudice/discrimination as well as arguments for historical implications for present-day circumstances. I really don't understand the need for folks to so quickly retreat back to some sort of cultural deficiency argument. Also curious from where folks think the geneses, or at the very least the inflammations of these "pathologies" or "maladaptive cultural norms", come.

    • @bens5859
      @bens5859 2 роки тому

      @@Dr.Speller Are you arguing against my comment above? I don't see anything in your comment that contradicts what I've said.

    • @Dr.Speller
      @Dr.Speller 2 роки тому +9

      @@bens5859 I was attempting to further the conversation by addressing your final question in the affirmative that there are empirical studies to support that idea. Simultaneously, I find it frustrating that people will quickly highlight “personal responsibility”-related arguments as if bootstrap-ism is a widely viable path for improvement.

    • @bens5859
      @bens5859 2 роки тому

      @@Dr.Speller to support the idea that _all_ or merely _some_ racial disparities are due to institutional racism? If you mean the latter, we already agree.

    • @Dr.Speller
      @Dr.Speller 2 роки тому +4

      @@bens5859 Of course “some”; to posit “all” would at minimum be imprecise. So it does appear that we agree; I think we’d also agree that often the severity and magnitude of these disparities are significant.

  • @stefanamersfoort6904
    @stefanamersfoort6904 2 роки тому +2

    Oh god race realism in 2022
    Humanity is truely utterly doomed

    • @KtotheG
      @KtotheG 2 роки тому +3

      White fragility in effect here.

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 Рік тому

      24:30 please what name is that ?

  • @dominiclaporte8040
    @dominiclaporte8040 2 роки тому +3

    This guy is lucky that the system (for some fucked up reason) protects people like him.

    • @redlionesv
      @redlionesv 2 роки тому +26

      The system protects him how? And you mean people like him as in what?

    • @KtotheG
      @KtotheG 2 роки тому +4

      We could've been lucky if your pops had pulled out.

    • @coolguyike
      @coolguyike 2 роки тому +21

      The system banned him from teaching in America and he teaches in Europe now so it does the opposite .

    • @beebee_0136
      @beebee_0136 2 роки тому +2

      @@coolguyike yeah, I heard something like this. What could have triggered such ban? (I tried to do some search online but couldn't pinpoint the exact reason)

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 Рік тому +1

      And the system mostly protects cowards like yourself who are too frightened to even imagine fighting against it.

  • @paopper-ys7xj
    @paopper-ys7xj Рік тому

    Is it helpful to think about this stuff so much? The things that make white ppl successful, healthy and happy also make black ppl successful healthy and happy, because we are all human.
    So why not focus on that and let go of all this stuff. It's good to think about issues deeply but this doesn't seem helpful to me.

    • @KingAuthor83
      @KingAuthor83 Рік тому +10

      LOL this is the best you can do for a response to all that?

    • @HowardWimshurst
      @HowardWimshurst Рік тому +3

      If you were the victim in the situation, and your family was still living with the fallout of slavery / segregation etc, would you want everyone to just forget about it and carry on?

    • @Baraborn
      @Baraborn Рік тому +1

      Whites are getting uncomfortable LETS KEEP IT UP GUYS!

    • @Akronkangaroo
      @Akronkangaroo 10 місяців тому

      Most whites embraced feminism until they started getting effected

  • @j53iliff2
    @j53iliff2 2 роки тому +3

    Saying a lot but not saying much

    • @acebutterfly2725
      @acebutterfly2725 Рік тому

      Agreed, I think his communication style is influenced by his background in Philosophy.

    • @ISaidItIDidIt
      @ISaidItIDidIt Рік тому +1

      @@acebutterfly2725 Did know that modern science came from Philosophy? Yes or No?

    • @BruceHillBeats
      @BruceHillBeats 10 місяців тому +2

      You just don't comprehend

    • @Primatologie
      @Primatologie 9 місяців тому

      @@BruceHillBeats Right? Because I comprehended all that. Some people just find it easier to dismiss knowledge rather than confront their own ignorance.

  • @LightS_bRight
    @LightS_bRight 2 роки тому +2

    Skin tone only tells us where our ancestors lived from the equator.
    Someone who believes skin tone matters more than individuality, perpetuate "racism".
    We are all human, weak humans find ways to find value from external identity, materialistic value, instead of internal, individuality.
    Not any different from a bully picking on someone for wearing a hat, or shirt color.
    "words" used to trick you to feel like a victim.

    • @marsmith1907
      @marsmith1907 2 роки тому +45

      Very convenient perspective in 2022. Thanks for proving the doctors points. 😆

    • @naledimyabi2686
      @naledimyabi2686 2 роки тому +8

      @@marsmith1907 I know right😂😂

    • @brandonwilliams3788
      @brandonwilliams3788 2 роки тому +18

      Respectfully, I don't think you have a deep enough understanding of what racism is to make such blanket statements. Most people who study race aren't trying to argue for a kind or bioessentialism

    • @jegnavisionmedia
      @jegnavisionmedia 2 роки тому +1

      So nevermind the actual slavery that evolved to blackcodes and then jimcorw. Red lining hangings that still happens today. That's quite a bit of action but you talking about words. STOP IT

    • @omniamericana2172
      @omniamericana2172 2 роки тому +16

      1 drop, 3/5ths (yeah I kno the history, still a thing) brain size, body part research, Octoroon, Quadroon. Who could own property, read, write, vote, marry, serve like Johnson Whittaker, stand on a corner in excess of 3, Face Satchel Page in The bronx, buy a GI Bill home,….allllll the way to who could fly missions over Eastern Europe, to Willie Lanier to who could play QB.
      Why is skin tone so critical indeed.
      Oh and that part about weak human…

  • @gee_emm
    @gee_emm 2 роки тому +6

    Hmm... there's kind of an antagonistic attitude towards black women in his thinking. Something’s off.

    • @theelectricprince8231
      @theelectricprince8231 2 роки тому +50

      How? How is talking about black men's suffering and calling out the people who try to white wash that suffering antagonistic to black women?

    • @wokemanishboi5003
      @wokemanishboi5003 2 роки тому +18

      How so? The man is married to a black woman and has two daughters.

    • @gee_emm
      @gee_emm 2 роки тому +1

      @@theelectricprince8231 See my response above. I didn’t really want to get into it. But then I did. 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @mcjcave18
      @mcjcave18 2 роки тому +36

      I don't think he has an antagonistic attitude toward black women however I do believe he is antagonistic to a certain part of the black academy which upholds racist stereotypes from the past.

    • @vermithrax7796
      @vermithrax7796 2 роки тому +14

      @Screaming Toad Also known as B.L.M

  • @ethericdata
    @ethericdata 2 роки тому +5

    Why was my comment addressing @gloriakmm11 deleted?

    • @KtotheG
      @KtotheG 2 роки тому +2

      Because I didn't approve. Now you play nice next time. Okay? Are we understood?

    • @beebee_0136
      @beebee_0136 2 роки тому

      Suggestion: Asides from abiding by their rules for commenting, have you tried breaking your comments into fragments of short sentences?

    • @omalone1169
      @omalone1169 Рік тому

      @@beebee_0136 thanks I didn't think about that