CARNO and OMNI/TROODON Changes! - The Isle Evrima
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As a carno player myself Im happy they changed how charge works, was kinda weird seeing carno turn into sonic the hedgehog lol, seems like its going back to what 6 was, just in a different way, as in charge is gonna heavily punish you stamina wise even if you pull it off, yo make up for its acceleration. Imo though I kinda wish they just changed carno back to the way it was in update 6, people seem to just hate it more and more due to the really weird ability to… again.. SONIC
From what I've seen, people mostly complain that they can't win every pvp fight they get into 💀
sonic?
How do you liek the cange it's litterally terrible, as a carno you were already haveily nerfed in overrall stamina now with the new stamina running is legit forbidden, and now it's harder to hunt? What's the point? Carnos can't run liek sonic because of the new stamian anyways, and since carno is supposed to be an ambush predator why make it harder for it to ambush L Isle moment
@@TheKingofCoral the amount of typos in there
average carno player
@@cetgomoo who cares? Honestly like who tf cares? I dont even play carno cuz it’s not viable rn, but the fact that you agree with the new changes tells me you like not being able to have fun while playing a video game
ppl assume something is broken instead of just changed, thats the state of the game rn
Whiners are going to whine, I'm afraid.
Good to hear they're balancing.. I uninstalled evrima because, being a flight enthusiast, ptera is my creature of choice and they've just made it totally frustrating and not fun to play at all anymore for me. With gateway's environment, the darkness, stamina drain, lack of available fish, crabs, etc. When I hear it got some changes I may reinstall. The other creatures, so far, don't really appeal to me to play personally but it's fun to watch others play them.. love your vids man.
thank you for the nice comment! devs are actively working on balancing things. Stamina got buffed, AI got buffed and a bunch more things that I don't recall right now.
Sure, there are a ton of bugs still yet to fix, specially some involving the servers and the ping/fps
Honestly I think the pounce change is great, now you have to actually aim your pounces and before it just made no sense jumping into somethings face and then latching onto their side when in reality you should've just bonked off their face and probably gotten bit
I disagree. I want them to revert the changes. Not because I disagree with anything you said, but because their servers are such garbage. Lag means lots of good pounces that were legit on their sides will fail. As a troodon I have lost count of how often the pounce has failed when it shouldn't have because of lag / desync and then boom insta-death. As a troodon you can only make 1 mistake before you are done.
i mean omnis are really weak now already...
Pounces were easily avoidable before tho, omnis have always had to think about were they're attacking from because if they dont' they'll get bit anyways, but now nerfing the ability to pounce in general and making it so that any competent animal will just turn and get a free hit on a the omni is unfair. and it's worse with troodon, al they needed to do was bring back the pounce recovry so you're abel to punish silly omnis.
I really do not understand the hate people have for the raptors, its literally the only dino in the game that comes with a built in 1 button hard counter to their main way of fighting.
If you see a Omni you are a vegetable if you are not mentally and physically preparing to buck, wow the Omni pounced you and caused some minor damage and bleed and in return, you ate 30-50% of their stamina bar in the 1-2 seconds they were brave enough to hold on to you.
Stamina does not regenerate quickly anymore, a Omni that loses stamina from someone bucking is 100% dead if the target they pounced simply keeps running at them because they will run out of stamina long before what they pounced bleeds out.
"B-b-b-but there's like 6 of them!"
Yeah well you wouldnt have survived 6 Carnos or (insert whatever other dino here) fighting you either so what difference does it make?
The skill is good and all, but as others already mentioned the lags will simply make pounces unusable and trods unpayable (Though the latter might need to be nerfed a bit if not done already). I already have an issue that tenos are able to kick me while I am far in front of them, so failing pounces will only add insult to an injury now.
Even if we remove the lag issue, the pounce really becomes a problem on mobile targets. Even if you calculated everything correctly and aimed for the side, many dinos can simply turn 45 degrees while you are airborne. The pounce already does fail on so many dino attacks, like charge, bonk, kick, tail swipe and so on. So, why utah and trodon need to learn skill while other dinos don't need to learn how to "parry" pounce?
Teno Also has a parry mechanic with its tail slam and kick now
huh? whats that
@@wyattthetenontosaurus9122 if you do a kick or tail slam when a carno charges the charge gets canceled
@@Excusatores that’s always been a thing they just removed it for a few updated
@@africananimalogist4190 it was a thing ye but it was not removed a while back just Harder to do, now its safer
hm interesting@@Excusatores
wowww thanks so much for the information Kouga!!!! continue like this you are always great 💪💪💪❤️❤️❤️
there goes my solo troodon experience
It not over yet,just that you need to attack on the sides now
Solo troodon died with the stam changes. It’s impossible to kill anything other than a juvie as a solo now
Imagine playing animals thar are meant to be in a pack solo 😂
yeah playing at a disadvantage takes skill and is fun/rewarding. Only when its actually possible to do so which it doesn't seem like it is anymore @@arkroyal1598
To be fair, they should call this rework "nerf" instead.
why
@@v8hyp carno will use more stams, Omni is even more vulnerable with each pounces.
I just hope they compensate new carno charge with more damage dealt and Omni pounces should pin bigger target the more they pounces them.
The pounce change they did is my favorite of the two. Raises the skill ceiling and makes fighting packs of things more fair
Pounce from behind should still work. Just the sides now is super sensitive to angles. Even a slight enemy turn often deflects now leaving you open to free hits.
I agree with frontal but still think tail should be a thing. Just should end up on top.
oh yes the skill celing of hoping lag and desync doesnt make you miss a pounce that was clearly on the side
These changes were what I've been waiting for, haven't touched the game in like 5 months.
These are amazing changes! Lets just hope the isle keeps getting good balancing like this
these were terrible bro..
Apparently charging someone from 10 meters away isnt long enough /s.
Perfect changes tbh
I love it
that's a big disadvantage for utah and troodon, I agree that it's realistic but the downside is that players won't want to play the jumping dino, already the omni and the troodon are weak you put this patch on them it's no longer worth playing it, on the other hand the pounce for the troodon he should have left him he is small so he could pounce anywhere
Pounce straight into the carno mouth
The carno changes are actually good but id like to know if the charge stuns for more time now since you basically cant use it in active combact anymore
Aprendi e venho sempre aprendendo com o ótimo trabalho que você faz, parabéns de coração por ajudar a comunidade dos dinos =)
Pelo canal ser PT-BR/ ENG, não poderia rolar a mesma escrita traduzida para português? Não me interpreta mal, mas ajudaria muito! ♥
Yoo!! Eu costumava fazer dois vídeos por causa do público misto, mas acabou que o BR não me deu resultado suficiente mesmo com toda a dedicação. Para isso, fiz um canal PT-BR bem variado, desde The Isle até jogos coop. Mas qualquer coisa você pode deixar uma mensagem no vídeo e eu traduzo alguma coisa que você possa não ter entendido!
Planejo levar o canal BR pra frente, só tá faltando público mesmo
tens um fã@@KougaArt
If you can or want to, can you make a video on how to find ai tenos, because I heard that they are in the game officially but I can’t find them besides the ai deer, boar and goat, am I missing something, or am I just being blind and not looking in the right place
heya, AI tenos are currently disabled!
@@KougaArt ok thank you
You might not see this but I am very VERY confused on how to get into a server on the isle and feel like I have waisted money. By any chance are you or any repliers able to tell me how?
I see all the comments don't worry about it!
Could you explain a bit more of your problem? Like, what are you exactly doing and if there's any errors, how much time it takes... etc
@@KougaArt so my problem is that I cant enter ervers. Nither can I hoast them. I left my computer running for a whole day and no open servers poped up. Even when I set the max ammount of players to 5000. And when I try to hoast the screen is black and cannot fix itself. I dont know what to do on how yto join servers. I didnt add any spicific name of a server. I have tryed to turn the game off and on but it dosent work. I also tryed to reset the computer too (not wipe it). And now I have run out of ideas? Do you have any sugestions?
what version are you in? Legacy, Evrima or Spiro? Cause if its Legacy one, your problem is known and won't be fixed (likely) since it's a dead game... If it's Spiro, well, servers are migrating from there to Evrima.
And if it's Evrima, it is known that the servers are having issues and they are working on it, what you can do is restart your internet or even restart steam to check if some servers appear, specially the official ones.@@ericharper1
I really don't understand why the devs nerfed the carno so bad. I know that his gameplay is to ambush/third party but this is very exagerated. Imagine having to hunt in a plain region your charge will be fucking useless.
Rest in Peace for the Carnos who died because of this nerf..
Yeah, the distance required to drop ppl is pretty damn long, and since charge uses up quite a lot stamina as well, I believe it renders this mechanic useless. Not to mention that ur prey now has a helluva lot of time to react lol xD
People already forgetting that carno is a ambusher in the isle and not a brawler...
@@arkroyal1598 Maybe it is, but in reality most people including me are not playing the carno 'as intended', the 'wait and ambush' strategy is just boring, nor is it effective enough. Taking in consideration how much distance it takes now and the sound a carno produces during its charge, I guess the target has to be either afk or have no headphones on :') I am really not against the changes since the carno was way too easy, but knocking players.. Well, one can pretty much forget about it.
@@arkroyal1598yes but having to waste your stamina on a third of east plains just to play what's intended is not a good gameplay, it's just bullshit
hi if you dont mind me asking what is your pc specs, looking to get my first one and your seems good
heya, my specs are
i5-9400f
16gb ram
GTX 1660ti
do you think its worth to get the 1660 ti in 2023 for this game? my current rig cant run it and i want a good system that can run the game smoothly@@KougaArt
@@trey740 no, I would highly advice you to get either a 4060 or a 3060 12gb, the 16 series is already weak :/
thanks man, btw new sub i enjoy the content@@KougaArt
@@trey740 thank you ❤️
i love the devs but how hard is it to make patch notes
They need to change the dilo venom and the way it works rn its way more broke. Than a carnos charge wtf? Carnos charge shouldnt have been changed at all it’s already not easy being a carno
Does the carno charge happens the same thing with other Dinos too?
@@천윤우-s8r what do you mean?
Anyone able to tell me if the Troo pounce applies venom from face and tail hits?
no, it cannot stack venom, only deals a bit of bleed
Since pouncing requires more skill now, I wonder if troodons pounces have been fixed, or if troodons venom should be more potent, on another note carno has gotten better but still not as good as it was before at the beginning of evrima, for every adjustment they seem to add two nerfs, no matter how big or small, it would be better if carno could drift like it used to rather than drift somewhat well, and if you have to build momentum for charge now why should a players attack stagger you? And even if it does you should drift in one direction a little so your not just standing still victim to whatever blocks your path, at least I can be very happy acceleration nerf was removed tho
ngl but that troodon skin looks sick
these changes are fantastic!
Basically they made pouncing unusable. Good luck landing a side bounce with something running and thrashing about. Especially Troodon who HAVE to pounce over and over and die in one hit.
N entendi, a do Carno qnt mais longe mais forte será a chifrada?
pra derrubar sua presa agora você precisa acertar ela de muito mais longe, se pressionar o RMB bem em cima da hora ele não vai funcionar pra derrubar, e sim só causar dano
Omni and troodon is so hard rn, but still my goats
I Uninstalled im tired of them making changes ABSOLITELY NO ONE ASKS FOR. we needed and STILL need pounce fix I doubt they care about the hours of progress lost beneath the mesh drowning because of a broken pounce.
thank god, fucking hated the carno insta charge and the wacky pounces for the pouncers. this makes the game more likeable!
good channel
good video! kouga, can we get some new background music (or maybe no music at all)? for some reason the song you use really annoys me, lol.
oof XD
Pounce at the face, ok It Is Fair not to work, but for the tail they should work on something different. Like slow down the enemy speed for a moment so other Omni could pounce by one side. Teamwork
Wow so basically the devs caved into the herbi players who dont know how to play the game crying about carno and now carnos shit. (when you factor in all the other nerfs its gotten lately)
poor carno man..
Once more mid tier carnivores are out, I’m never touching carno 💀 it sucks
Tail pounce should still be a thing.. raptors feel so nerfed at the moment. I’m seeing packs of ceras roaming around in au. Barely see raptors anymore just dilo cera and carnos.
The Isle Deva nerfed carno liked 5 Times and they nerfed it again
Finally
This seems way more negative than positive
how so
Omni changes seem fine. No one plays troodon so its just a nerf for practically no reason at all.
Carno is now only going to use its charge to tag people as they run. In short the charge as a mechanic is unfocused. Its basically fighting a nintendo boss… this isnt that crazy of an issue yet only because bigger carnivores dont exist yet
@@walkerlenon9811 the only people who see this as a draw back are those who play the isle just to pvp. People forget Dondi wants this to be a realistic survival, where dinos hunt, not fight. Carnis are supposed to be ambush hunters, people have just gotten away with roaming openly as them without consequences for too long.
@@foreverbeep1339 the game is scripted in a way that makes it more pvp than hunting. Maybe if tracking worked and if combat itself was scripted differently
The game rn honestly functions like a non turn based mmo in terms of its combat, set amount of health, basic attacks, one ability, etc.
As opposed to animals actually surviving how they describe it. In short 99% of the game replicates nothing realistic or fun (fun being most important).
The ONLY thing in the game thats realistic/makes sense,and portrays gritty survival well is deinosuchus.
To me, deino as a playable (not how it’s played) is the only reason i come back to this game.
@@walkerlenon9811 I mean, I have fun with the game how it is, maybe it’s cause I strictly play in realism servers. People play how they want so it just seems unfair to whine about something that doesn’t cater to your play style…
1 Good Tip for those People : All of you Lazy Lads out there Try to learn the Damn Update Notes !
But ya u prefer 2 min video instead ya? xD
probably because I show with images, so it's easy to understand
@@KougaArt Sure but in Patch notes wrotten : Carno cannot knockdown anymore the Enemy,it needs to charge up his speed so afterwards the knockdown occurs 😁
Whats not understandable here idk.
Shame dilo fog isn't nerf...
Carno changes are terrible lol how am i gonna ambush if i have to run full speed for 10 seconds everyone is gonna hear my heavy ass footsteps lol
I mean these people just need to read the change logs,but at the moment the isle is awful right now,starving has gotten so much worse,and migration paths have made the game extremely boring
This pounce chnges is bad in my opinion because its a way more harder to kill someone if you are troodon or omni and pounce on front and tail wasnt That bad.
It was absurd before, the most op attack and you cant do anything if there are a pack against you and ut took no skill
@@Excusatores I play with a herd of omnis and aginst omnis a lot of time and I can tell you it was pretty good balance and I tell you as herbi player and omni player and now this pounces are pretty useless in figth
@@zwykyczowiek8809 ive played against omnis alot and with the pounce recovery not being a thing anymore pounce is the most broken and easiest ability to use you dont need to think to use it, now you actually need timing and to decide if you want to pounce and when
pounce was too easy to land and if you missed there was no repercussion for that so this some what balances that out
the pounce changes arent horrible just not being able to pounce the tail doesnt make sense
the pounce change is lame af☠️
Really? Do you think it was fair to pounce someone's face and then magically teleport to the side? I'm an omni player too and I think it's fair.
@@ScottM436that sweet time when you got straightaway knocked down when pouncing from front or behind, way back on the release of gateway. That was hardcore exp xD