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Soldier Boy has invulnerability, super-strength close to Homelander’s level, and while he can’t fly, he has agility/speed on par with Homelander in terms of close combat/reaction time. The chest beam (which in addition to being radioactive and destructive, has the additional effect of neutralizing super powers in people) was added to Soldier Boy by the Russians (probably the original weapon they were developing to neutralize supes).
@@TimedRevolver I think it is unique to soldier boy considering the Russians exposed him to additional radiation to see if it would erode at his DNA, I mean if I’m testing a supe’s vulnerability that would be one of the first on my list, so I think his blast specifically targets the V in the supe’s blood and straight up fries it and only it out of the circulatory system (plus the actual fireball blast melting whatever it comes into contact with unless the supe has durability powers, then they’ll just be injured with no powers I.e Kimiko)
41:26 This is the part that i understand about the risk of teaming up with Soldier Boy, but when going againts Homelander, who is a worse muderer, is just the lesser evil to have Soldier Boy on your side.
Neither him nor gunpowder did anything ‘in the shadows.’ The insinuation was that he’s a physical bully, nothing sexual or weird. Butcher said that based off of the reports that said that gunpowder filed a complaint because he was beat up so much by soldier boy. Nothing weird happened behind the scenes.
They were going to go the sexual abuse route but Jensen Ackles (soldier boy) refused to do that story line. He just felt too uncomfortable morally, to play that. So instead, the story is that he just beat up on gunpowder alot.
I mean I 100% agree with what hughie is doing I mean starlight tried to play it safe and do things the “right way” which isn’t even some goodie two shoes way since it’s mainly just black mailing and manipulation. But that’s plan got supersonic killed… so I mean…. Star light literally has no plan right now…
@@YaBoyRockLee Well to be fair I wouldn’t say deep used her. The church forced him to take her as a wife. Deep wanted the one that was overly sexual because that’s all there is in his head tbh. With how dense he is, it’s highly likely he doesn’t realize all his recent successes are thanks to her.
All Might told Deku that he needed to clench his butt to use One For All. IDK if this is an actual reference but Hughie does remind me of baby Deku before he manned up.
Frenchie stopped kimiko from committing a murder by offering her chocolate limes in the comics. Now we crimson countess set up soldier boy knew he was in Russia this whole time
So in the comics payback does mess up the war where Mallory is stationed But in a different way they gave away the position where is steel knight and swatto I think were spotted and then the enemy came by and started spraying everyone here it didn’t seem as bad but crimson countess does take out mallorys men As well as gunpowder shooting a lot of men as well on both sides you can clearly see the allegory to the avengers where gunpowder is Bucky Barnes the super soldiers sidekick at a young age and crimson countess here is Scarlet witch
"Ask my black friends" followed by "I do see color" literally is an instant contradiction and I usually mark that up as PR talk, I'm glad y'all instantly picked up on the bullshit before Bluehawk went berserk.
I would follow Butcher, so far he is the only one that makes sense. And none of the supes are innocent so far, and i prefer Soldier boy over Homelander, because he is just a freaking tank, but Homelander can fly and shoot lazer, he is much more dangerous.
@@jasonjackson33 Two things: That was an accident, there's some sort of trigger built into him through brainwashing to do just that. Secondly, that was the news. I surely hope you are not stupid enough to believe the news in this show, or in reality. If you are, you deserve everything that happens to you.
@@jasonjackson33 not really, i mean, not at the moment, he should pay later, but we KNOW what can stop him, but other than him, homelander has no weaknesses
@@martinacosta3821 What's the difference they both cause death and destruction. Soldier Boy killed dozens of people with his powers. How are you gonna save the world with some dude when he be having accidents like that.
@@jasonjackson33 did you not read my comment? Whats the difference you ask? One has threatened the fcking world, can fly and shoot lazers and is basically indestructible. Soldier boy is the ONLY chance they have, and he is just a tank, he doesnt know this world, no money, the deaths were accidental, and again, WE FCKING KNOW WHAT CAN STOP HIM. And you dare ask, whats the difference??
Am I the only one who thinks Annie was tripping this season? She does realize the "you're teaming up with a murderer" means literally nothing as both Butch and Hughie have killed people. Hughie killed Translucent and shot a few guys at the end of Season 1 all while following Butcher who we are well aware of being a killer. Plus Soldier Boy is the lesser of two evils here. WHAT was she hoping for from all of this?
The thing is, she can rationalize Hughie's actions as him defending himself, and he got in too deep with Butcher. But Soldier Boy is him willingly doing it, not just getting in over his head. He chose to do this. As for Butcher, she's aware of who and what he is, and has already made her feelings clear about the man.
There is a difference between killers and murderer. Police kill, soliders kill, people kill in self defense, murders kill without justification such as self defense. Hughie killed Translucent out of fear for his life. But you saw with A Train he didnt kill or authorize killing A Train because Hughie isn’t a murderer. But he will kill in defense if he has too. So when Annie is saying “teaming up with a “MURDERER””. She’s describing a TYPE of killer. All murders are killers. But not all killers commit murder.
Homelander wasn't scared of Soldier Boy in this episode. He was completely focused on his new job as the "head" of Vought. Everything Edgar said was getting to him.
@@slimshazy2819 Yes he did lol when he was talking to himself in the mirror he was afraid that he couldn't beat him and he was scared after the fight until Ryan was hurt later on.
@@Salik96 That was after this episode...In THIS episode he just saw a guy on TV exploding. He didn't know it was Soldier Boy. Yet a lot of reactors got the impression Homelander knew it was Soldier Boy and was scared of him. He wasn't. Because he literally didn't know he was alive until the NEXT episode.
Soldier Boy is more durable then Homelander. So in a straight fight no one interrupting and no flight bullshit. Homelander would eventually tire himself out and that will leave a window for soldier boy to capitalize. Also i believe with prep time and since he has more experience then homelander. i believe soldier boy can eventually come out with a plan to defeat homelander no matter how long it would take eventually solder boy will defeat homelander.
Imagine MM teaming up with homelander to kill soldier boy that's how fu**ed up thing butcher did knowing that soldier boy killed MM family. I started hating butcher from season 2 onwards.
Perhaps you guys didn't catch it but...Butcher and Hughie both developed powers similar to their enemies. Butcher has super strength, invulnerability, and laser eyes like Homelander. Hughie has enhanced strength, and teleporting which sort of gives him powers rivaling A-Train and Translucent.
I noticed butcher. Hughie is reaching. I think it matches his personality as non confrontational. He can protect loved ones by removing them from danger and not fighting
@@YaBoyRockLee Removing them from danger and removing their clothes. Lol But, seriously, Hughie's powers would be very useful fighting against A-Train and Translucent, while Butcher's powers wouldn't work well against those two. I don't think that's a coincidence.
@@starbrand3726 I get the how you'd compare teleportation to ultra speed but it really is reaching. Super speed still beats Hughie since if his perception of what's happening isn't fast then teleportation is useless, A train can just run him over and he couldn't react. He also has zero ways to hurt Translucent with this ability. While Butcher got HL type powers and could probably kill those heroes or atleast Translucent.
@@rinne-8810 Butcher can't kill Translucent if... he can't see him. Lol Hughie is also super strong remember? He thrust his arm right through a guy's chest in Russia, he was fast enough to dodge Homelander's laser vision at Herogasm, as well as strong enough to push Homelander off Butcher and help hold Homelander down. Very true, yes you are right, I'm not saying that the comparison is perfect, but I do feel that in a real fight with A-Train, Hughie would have a better chance of beating A-Train than any other Supe. Plus, we really don't know if Hughie's powers would evolve even more if he continued to take Temp V. He didn't know that he could teleport other people before. And...After Hughie punched A-Train at Herogasm... A shocked A-Train said..."How did you do that?!" Not only because it hurt (and it did), but because A-Train didn't dodge it. Just my theory. 😉
Leech (James "Jimmy" from X-men had similar powers to suppress super powers. He is a Morlock, a group of mutants whose deformities force them to live in the sewers under Manhattan.
I feel like they artifically creating drama for the sake of it this season. Like what's the point in-fightings in the group of The Boys? All they have to do is come together thinking of a strategy to use Soldier Boy to take down Homelander and then they take out Soldier Boy. I don't think MM would have a problem with that. I mean it's not unrealistic to think Butcher would sit down with his pal MM and say "look pal, I know it's hard for you but I have an idea, we use SB to take down Homelander and then we off SB right after. Deal?"
I couldn't imagine working with somebody who killed a close family member or mine..Call it selfish, but I also don't know many people who would.. but in reference to the Boys "MM" has literally developed ocd, a massive temper problem, and who knows what else mental illnesses...and it All stems from soldier...that's not something many people can brush off
@@atlasamadeus6558 I get what you are saying but it's the Boys, they have seen every sort of things imaginable and transgressed every rules. I'll use spoilers now: They could set up two teams. And Butcher would be like "we'll bring Soldier Boy to face Homelander, meanwhile you MM would be far away with a second squad so you don't have to see SB at all. Then we'll help SB kill Homelander. And when it's done, we'll have Hughie teleport you in. Afte SB does his explosion, he passes out anyway. And then he can be killed from there as he would be helpless". It would made for a more sensible plan. And then you can bring in Ryan like they did to introduce an unpredictable element. But at least the Boys would have covered a lot of bases. Whereas on the show Butcher's plan was basically, "We'll just show there and improvise".
It was hard for me to sympathize with Meave and Countess while watching this episode because you learn that they were enablers. It's apparent that Homelander and Soldier Boy believed that they were having genuine relationships, and they can obviously be intimidating because of the power they possess, but a big part of what makes them *them* is their upbringing as well as what other people allow them to get away with. It was even worse in Meave's case since she said she got with Homelander because she pitied him, meaning the start of the relationship wasn't just rooted in fear. It's also a point that goes back to what Mallory told Soldier Boy in Nicaragua, about how his pickup lines only work on women that are scared of him, and you could tell by the confidence he exuded that he doesn't get turned down often, meaning that most if not all of his relationships were rooted in fear. I'd sympathize with Homelander and Soldier Boy in this regard if they didn't have such great power that makes it an even trade off; like what Butcher said about what comes with great power. It can also be interpreted as the theme of how people with great success get surrounded by yes-men and are often confronted by fake people (snakes, or people with ulterior motives), which is represented the most by what Homelander is currently dealing with, except he asks for it.
she didn't start a relationship because she pitied him, at the beginning of the relationship that was probably started by Vought she pitied him. also did you not remember season 2 when Maeve said Homelander tore apart the director for switching seats with him to be next to Maeve? HL and SB are literal psychopaths. very odd to not have sympathy for Countess or Maeve despite them being shitty people.
@@Ziaotic it wasn't "probably" started by Vought; Homelander said it himself that the relationship was strictly for the cameras in the beginning (basically like his relationship with Starlight). Also, I know they're psychopaths because of their upbringing and them being enabled and never reprimanded, but I feel like getting talked down or straightened out by some women that they genuinely loved could've helped them. The closest thing we've seen to that happening in the show is Stillwell's relationship with Homelander, except she only ever used her influence over him to control and manipulate him instead of trying to better/change him, but we know she never tried to press boundaries because she was afraid of him. And then there was Meave who isn't stronger than Homelander but still strong enough (IMO) to the point where Homelander respects her and she can deter him from any abuse (abusers are more likely to back off when their victims can actually hold their own since the abuse becomes too much of a hassle), but she didn't try to change Homelander either because she was still scared to or because she just didn't care to or both. Lastly, there was Stormfront, who we know was in a position to try to change Homelander but for the worse because of her agenda. It's not that I have no sympathy for Meave or Countess, as I can understand their positions and feelings. It's just that I have as much sympathy for them as I do Homelander and Soldier Boy because of the sincerity of the guys' feelings towards the women. They just realised the relationships they thought were real were just a result of their power turning their partners into yes-men.
About starlight she couldn’t leave vought in the 1st or 2nd season you don’t know what homelander or vought in general would’ve did to make sure she was silenced and her being in vought was best given the situation. Her gamble would have worked if not for stormfronts suicide. Weather she liked it or not she at the time it was the best play but it got Uno reversed and there’s not much you can do to stop it, also with black noir and not being afraid of him lol if only you knew(not show spoilers)
@@estebanbr7596 those were send outs because also remember they knew of her relationship with hughie in the first two seasons so her leaving at that time was certain death without the opportunity to have someone on the inside
@@estebanbr7596 She didn’t even know anything about the situation at the time the only thing that she knew about was that some of the people in vought were corrupt and that she really wanted to be part of the seven. It wasn’t till the last two episodes of season one, that she was with the person who was against vought. Ultimately she was naïve in season 1, season 2 she saw what vought really was and you saw what happened when she tried to leave vought. Black noir chased her down
You guys hating on my guy butcher MM is a deadman without the V Huey stole V from butcher can’t blame butcher after he said he hates and confirmed he hates it but would he be able to kill gunpowder MM not the drugs goes with his character but as a man who wanted hunt down solider boy who himself is nearly immortal should be smart enough to know he wasting his time
Queen 👑 speaks greatness again Everyone playing checkers butcher playing chess The real world MM and Starlight won’t win a fight 🤷🏾♂️ With Huey and Butcher better odds however main point is Homelander
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Soldier Boy has invulnerability, super-strength close to Homelander’s level, and while he can’t fly, he has agility/speed on par with Homelander in terms of close combat/reaction time.
The chest beam (which in addition to being radioactive and destructive, has the additional effect of neutralizing super powers in people) was added to Soldier Boy by the Russians (probably the original weapon they were developing to neutralize supes).
That does raise a question: would a regular overdose of radiation depower a Supe, or is it unique to whatever happened to Soldier Boy?
@@TimedRevolver I think it is unique to soldier boy considering the Russians exposed him to additional radiation to see if it would erode at his DNA, I mean if I’m testing a supe’s vulnerability that would be one of the first on my list, so I think his blast specifically targets the V in the supe’s blood and straight up fries it and only it out of the circulatory system (plus the actual fireball blast melting whatever it comes into contact with unless the supe has durability powers, then they’ll just be injured with no powers I.e Kimiko)
41:26 This is the part that i understand about the risk of teaming up with Soldier Boy, but when going againts Homelander, who is a worse muderer, is just the lesser evil to have Soldier Boy on your side.
22:46 Not really, Gunpowder said that Soldier Boy slapped him around a little bit and it went south one time. They never smashed
Neither him nor gunpowder did anything ‘in the shadows.’ The insinuation was that he’s a physical bully, nothing sexual or weird. Butcher said that based off of the reports that said that gunpowder filed a complaint because he was beat up so much by soldier boy. Nothing weird happened behind the scenes.
Facts…maybe
They were going to go the sexual abuse route but Jensen Ackles (soldier boy) refused to do that story line. He just felt too uncomfortable morally, to play that. So instead, the story is that he just beat up on gunpowder alot.
I mean I 100% agree with what hughie is doing I mean starlight tried to play it safe and do things the “right way” which isn’t even some goodie two shoes way since it’s mainly just black mailing and manipulation. But that’s plan got supersonic killed… so I mean…. Star light literally has no plan right now…
Agreed. 100%
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The first reactors to call deeps wife good, everyone else thought of her as a leech who is using deep to move up for her own agenda
She is using him, but she is also making him who he is by "grooming" him (altho i dont think someone as dumb as the deep can learn anything).
Deep used her for the same reasons. I recall bin literally interviewing wives and selected the best for his career
Fax
@@YaBoyRockLee Well to be fair I wouldn’t say deep used her. The church forced him to take her as a wife. Deep wanted the one that was overly sexual because that’s all there is in his head tbh. With how dense he is, it’s highly likely he doesn’t realize all his recent successes are thanks to her.
All Might told Deku that he needed to clench his butt to use One For All. IDK if this is an actual reference but Hughie does remind me of baby Deku before he manned up.
Oh god i hope it is a reference bc then that means maybe they are trying to bring a mha to live action from the profits of the bois 😉
Frenchie stopped kimiko from committing a murder by offering her chocolate limes in the comics. Now we crimson countess set up soldier boy knew he was in Russia this whole time
So in the comics payback does mess up the war where Mallory is stationed But in a different way they gave away the position where is steel knight and swatto I think were spotted and then the enemy came by and started spraying everyone here it didn’t seem as bad but crimson countess does take out mallorys men As well as gunpowder shooting a lot of men as well on both sides you can clearly see the allegory to the avengers where gunpowder is Bucky Barnes the super soldiers sidekick at a young age and crimson countess here is Scarlet witch
Gunpowder is more like dead shot, but for the sake of a Marvel comparison I guess you could say Bucky
@@Lava91point0 it’s deadshot and club dread but the overview is bucky that’s from the creators
Remember Mallory told Butcher how Crimson murdered all those soldiers. She's not entirely innocent. They've killed supes before
I always think of midoriya when i hear about people clenching their butt.
Yup
"Ask my black friends" followed by "I do see color" literally is an instant contradiction and I usually mark that up as PR talk, I'm glad y'all instantly picked up on the bullshit before Bluehawk went berserk.
Soldier boy: where is my super suit?!!!!!!
My nigga used self destruct like Chiaotzu
I would follow Butcher, so far he is the only one that makes sense. And none of the supes are innocent so far, and i prefer Soldier boy over Homelander, because he is just a freaking tank, but Homelander can fly and shoot lazer, he is much more dangerous.
You guys really don't care about the 19 people Soldier Boy just kill huh?
@@jasonjackson33 Two things:
That was an accident, there's some sort of trigger built into him through brainwashing to do just that.
Secondly, that was the news. I surely hope you are not stupid enough to believe the news in this show, or in reality. If you are, you deserve everything that happens to you.
@@jasonjackson33 not really, i mean, not at the moment, he should pay later, but we KNOW what can stop him, but other than him, homelander has no weaknesses
@@martinacosta3821 What's the difference they both cause death and destruction. Soldier Boy killed dozens of people with his powers. How are you gonna save the world with some dude when he be having accidents like that.
@@jasonjackson33 did you not read my comment? Whats the difference you ask? One has threatened the fcking world, can fly and shoot lazers and is basically indestructible. Soldier boy is the ONLY chance they have, and he is just a tank, he doesnt know this world, no money, the deaths were accidental, and again, WE FCKING KNOW WHAT CAN STOP HIM. And you dare ask, whats the difference??
Am I the only one who thinks Annie was tripping this season? She does realize the "you're teaming up with a murderer" means literally nothing as both Butch and Hughie have killed people. Hughie killed Translucent and shot a few guys at the end of Season 1 all while following Butcher who we are well aware of being a killer.
Plus Soldier Boy is the lesser of two evils here. WHAT was she hoping for from all of this?
The thing is, she can rationalize Hughie's actions as him defending himself, and he got in too deep with Butcher.
But Soldier Boy is him willingly doing it, not just getting in over his head. He chose to do this. As for Butcher, she's aware of who and what he is, and has already made her feelings clear about the man.
There is a difference between killers and murderer. Police kill, soliders kill, people kill in self defense, murders kill without justification such as self defense. Hughie killed Translucent out of fear for his life. But you saw with A Train he didnt kill or authorize killing A Train because Hughie isn’t a murderer. But he will kill in defense if he has too.
So when Annie is saying “teaming up with a “MURDERER””. She’s describing a TYPE of killer. All murders are killers. But not all killers commit murder.
@@YaBoyRockLee fair point. I still am with Butcher and Hughie on getting Soldier Boy to kill Homelander.
@@omnipresentl1316 also fair belief
He is the guy from Supernatural
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Soldier Boy
Nah bro the "she's stronger than you bro, don't fight it" was dirty😭
I just now realized starlight says Hughie is teaming up with a murderer but like lol kimiko, butcher and frenchie all kinda fit the bill
Lol. Yup
Homelander wasn't scared of Soldier Boy in this episode. He was completely focused on his new job as the "head" of Vought. Everything Edgar said was getting to him.
He kinda was tho.
@@Salik96 No he wasn't lol. He didn't even know Soldier Boy was alive
@@slimshazy2819 Yes he did lol when he was talking to himself in the mirror he was afraid that he couldn't beat him and he was scared after the fight until Ryan was hurt later on.
@@Salik96 That was after this episode...In THIS episode he just saw a guy on TV exploding. He didn't know it was Soldier Boy. Yet a lot of reactors got the impression Homelander knew it was Soldier Boy and was scared of him. He wasn't. Because he literally didn't know he was alive until the NEXT episode.
@@slimshazy2819 True.
Soldier Boy is more durable then Homelander. So in a straight fight no one interrupting and no flight bullshit. Homelander would eventually tire himself out and that will leave a window for soldier boy to capitalize. Also i believe with prep time and since he has more experience then homelander. i believe soldier boy can eventually come out with a plan to defeat homelander no matter how long it would take eventually solder boy will defeat homelander.
Bro...... Homelander overpowered him in a 1v1 and was choking him out
@@kodythedragonfire8005Thats because he used the Beam of power against the twins before, which takes a lot from him
A Train is constantly catching L's
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Man I LOVED this episode when I watched it for the first time. Love that ending. Love D Nasty too
Imagine MM teaming up with homelander to kill soldier boy that's how fu**ed up thing butcher did knowing that soldier boy killed MM family. I started hating butcher from season 2 onwards.
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A good wife controls your every move, I guess.
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ngl i am suprised Adorkable sides with butcher and hughie. i thought she would shit on hugh especially for his decisions
Hugh fan lol
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Part of me wonders if maeve may end up having butchers kid who is a super too. It would be kinda interesting If that ended up happen.
Perhaps you guys didn't catch it but...Butcher and Hughie both developed powers similar to their enemies. Butcher has super strength, invulnerability, and laser eyes like Homelander. Hughie has enhanced strength, and teleporting which sort of gives him powers rivaling A-Train and Translucent.
Lol reaching on Hughie
I noticed butcher. Hughie is reaching. I think it matches his personality as non confrontational. He can protect loved ones by removing them from danger and not fighting
@@YaBoyRockLee Removing them from danger and removing their clothes. Lol But, seriously, Hughie's powers would be very useful fighting against A-Train and Translucent, while Butcher's powers wouldn't work well against those two. I don't think that's a coincidence.
@@starbrand3726 I get the how you'd compare teleportation to ultra speed but it really is reaching. Super speed still beats Hughie since if his perception of what's happening isn't fast then teleportation is useless, A train can just run him over and he couldn't react. He also has zero ways to hurt Translucent with this ability. While Butcher got HL type powers and could probably kill those heroes or atleast Translucent.
@@rinne-8810 Butcher can't kill Translucent if... he can't see him. Lol
Hughie is also super strong remember? He thrust his arm right through a guy's chest in Russia, he was fast enough to dodge Homelander's laser vision at Herogasm, as well as strong enough to push Homelander off Butcher and help hold Homelander down.
Very true, yes you are right, I'm not saying that the comparison is perfect, but I do feel that in a real fight with A-Train, Hughie would have a better chance of beating A-Train than any other Supe. Plus, we really don't know if Hughie's powers would evolve even more if he continued to take Temp V. He didn't know that he could teleport other people before. And...After Hughie punched A-Train at Herogasm... A shocked A-Train said..."How did you do that?!" Not only because it hurt (and it did), but because A-Train didn't dodge it. Just my theory. 😉
Lmfao Despite being 13%
Leech (James "Jimmy" from X-men had similar powers to suppress super powers. He is a Morlock, a group of mutants whose deformities force them to live in the sewers under Manhattan.
I feel like they artifically creating drama for the sake of it this season. Like what's the point in-fightings in the group of The Boys? All they have to do is come together thinking of a strategy to use Soldier Boy to take down Homelander and then they take out Soldier Boy. I don't think MM would have a problem with that. I mean it's not unrealistic to think Butcher would sit down with his pal MM and say "look pal, I know it's hard for you but I have an idea, we use SB to take down Homelander and then we off SB right after. Deal?"
I couldn't imagine working with somebody who killed a close family member or mine..Call it selfish, but I also don't know many people who would.. but in reference to the Boys "MM" has literally developed ocd, a massive temper problem, and who knows what else mental illnesses...and it All stems from soldier...that's not something many people can brush off
@@atlasamadeus6558 I get what you are saying but it's the Boys, they have seen every sort of things imaginable and transgressed every rules. I'll use spoilers now:
They could set up two teams. And Butcher would be like "we'll bring Soldier Boy to face Homelander, meanwhile you MM would be far away with a second squad so you don't have to see SB at all. Then we'll help SB kill Homelander. And when it's done, we'll have Hughie teleport you in. Afte SB does his explosion, he passes out anyway. And then he can be killed from there as he would be helpless". It would made for a more sensible plan. And then you can bring in Ryan like they did to introduce an unpredictable element. But at least the Boys would have covered a lot of bases. Whereas on the show Butcher's plan was basically, "We'll just show there and improvise".
It was hard for me to sympathize with Meave and Countess while watching this episode because you learn that they were enablers. It's apparent that Homelander and Soldier Boy believed that they were having genuine relationships, and they can obviously be intimidating because of the power they possess, but a big part of what makes them *them* is their upbringing as well as what other people allow them to get away with. It was even worse in Meave's case since she said she got with Homelander because she pitied him, meaning the start of the relationship wasn't just rooted in fear. It's also a point that goes back to what Mallory told Soldier Boy in Nicaragua, about how his pickup lines only work on women that are scared of him, and you could tell by the confidence he exuded that he doesn't get turned down often, meaning that most if not all of his relationships were rooted in fear. I'd sympathize with Homelander and Soldier Boy in this regard if they didn't have such great power that makes it an even trade off; like what Butcher said about what comes with great power. It can also be interpreted as the theme of how people with great success get surrounded by yes-men and are often confronted by fake people (snakes, or people with ulterior motives), which is represented the most by what Homelander is currently dealing with, except he asks for it.
Absolute pile of horse manure
she didn't start a relationship because she pitied him, at the beginning of the relationship that was probably started by Vought she pitied him. also did you not remember season 2 when Maeve said Homelander tore apart the director for switching seats with him to be next to Maeve? HL and SB are literal psychopaths. very odd to not have sympathy for Countess or Maeve despite them being shitty people.
@@Ziaotic You can certainly empathize, but not sympathize
@@Ziaotic it wasn't "probably" started by Vought; Homelander said it himself that the relationship was strictly for the cameras in the beginning (basically like his relationship with Starlight). Also, I know they're psychopaths because of their upbringing and them being enabled and never reprimanded, but I feel like getting talked down or straightened out by some women that they genuinely loved could've helped them. The closest thing we've seen to that happening in the show is Stillwell's relationship with Homelander, except she only ever used her influence over him to control and manipulate him instead of trying to better/change him, but we know she never tried to press boundaries because she was afraid of him. And then there was Meave who isn't stronger than Homelander but still strong enough (IMO) to the point where Homelander respects her and she can deter him from any abuse (abusers are more likely to back off when their victims can actually hold their own since the abuse becomes too much of a hassle), but she didn't try to change Homelander either because she was still scared to or because she just didn't care to or both. Lastly, there was Stormfront, who we know was in a position to try to change Homelander but for the worse because of her agenda.
It's not that I have no sympathy for Meave or Countess, as I can understand their positions and feelings. It's just that I have as much sympathy for them as I do Homelander and Soldier Boy because of the sincerity of the guys' feelings towards the women. They just realised the relationships they thought were real were just a result of their power turning their partners into yes-men.
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About starlight she couldn’t leave vought in the 1st or 2nd season you don’t know what homelander or vought in general would’ve did to make sure she was silenced and her being in vought was best given the situation. Her gamble would have worked if not for stormfronts suicide. Weather she liked it or not she at the time it was the best play but it got Uno reversed and there’s not much you can do to stop it, also with black noir and not being afraid of him lol if only you knew(not show spoilers)
Didnt the fire guy left with no repercussions ? And so did deep.
@@estebanbr7596 those were send outs because also remember they knew of her relationship with hughie in the first two seasons so her leaving at that time was certain death without the opportunity to have someone on the inside
@@rebornjm idk at the time season 1 there was not so much shit. It was fairly easy for her to say dips.
@@estebanbr7596 She didn’t even know anything about the situation at the time the only thing that she knew about was that some of the people in vought were corrupt and that she really wanted to be part of the seven. It wasn’t till the last two episodes of season one, that she was with the person who was against vought. Ultimately she was naïve in season 1, season 2 she saw what vought really was and you saw what happened when she tried to leave vought. Black noir chased her down
You guys hating on my guy butcher MM is a deadman without the V Huey stole V from butcher can’t blame butcher after he said he hates and confirmed he hates it but would he be able to kill gunpowder
MM not the drugs goes with his character but as a man who wanted hunt down solider boy who himself is nearly immortal should be smart enough to know he wasting his time
I agree with you on all the points. Just had different reaction
who is excited for the next episode?
Amazing
i think episode 5 was made for all black lives
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Soldier boy and gunpowder was a lie........he's not gay
F the others, I agree with butcher , they all gotta go , every last one of them.
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Everyone playing checkers butcher playing chess
The real world MM and Starlight won’t win a fight 🤷🏾♂️
With Huey and Butcher better odds however main point is Homelander
I love your The Boys reactions but where is Bleach reactions. I think it's been over a week. Are u guys quitting the show?
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