Jay Slater Latest: Ex-Detective Analyses Explosive New Leads of Teen's Mysterious Disappearance
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- On the sun-drenched holiday island of Tenerife, the vibrant beats of a dance festival gave way to a chilling mystery.
On June 17, a 19-year-old Brit vanished without a trace, leaving an island shrouded in questions and a family desperate for answers. But how long will it be until they get them?
Join former Metropolitan Police detective Peter Bleksley, as he dissects the baffling case of missing Jay Slater.
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First off Peter, I wouldn't say he was substantially punished for his vicious attack. Come on, it was community service, a day having a laugh with similar minded 'ruffians'...
Came to the comments to say exactly this. I can’t believe he said that. I wonder if he would feel that the punishment was adequate had his family member been attacked with a machete. I suspect not.
@johnw2758: you are absolutely right, I totally agree with you. He clearly isn't a 'good boy'. And did he steal a watch while on holiday, as has been reported?
Spot on.
My initial thoughts were perhaps acquaintances of the attacked boy had decided to get some revenge
I think he was being sarcastic, the same way he referred to the “fun at the dance event” Peter Bleksley is no fool he’s worked many many murder/ missing persons cases, he knows drugs is at the root of this case, but can’t say . Please don’t think he’s naive or a soft touch, because he’s anything but that.
@@danwilson1040 maybe, but usually it does come across with facial expressions or gestures, this didn't (IMHO of course )
This is what happens when 9st kids who sell abit of weed on their estate gets to ambitious and veer out their lane.
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Exacrly...Not to mention the people he was involved in...Hence why so much focus is being put on his dissappearance...And i'm not just talking about the two guys from the air b&b 👀👀
You can't play with these nik kaz.
If you can't run with the big dogs stay on the pavement. I told a friend's son this, Can't remember where I heard it from
@@Keli-cy1koso you’re a parrot
Just your average 19year old bricklayer with one conviction for a knife attack/mugging, who tried jumping someone for a 12k rollie and couldn't jump high enough. RIP
Correction: Machete attack, in a large group that were mostly 30+ year old migrant men attacking a native lad.
Wrong! The oldest one was 20, and they were all white kids
I also don't understand why his parents haven't been out looking for him, or why his father said the landscape was too dangerous to search, and he asked a person "would you do it?" If Jay was my son, no landscape, no wild animals, no heat or dark night, would stop me from searching. Why aren't they doing it?
Look at this terrain where to look cant walk 100 meters around
As Diana Ross once said; Ain’t no mountain high enough…😂😂😂
I'm from Iceland and I can tell you nobody walks in lava. It's almost impossible to walk in lava.
Just pointing out.
His friends know more trust me .....lying through there teeth flew back asap interview them mi5
Mistaken identity his friends have the goodsc
So only 20 minues after Lucy speaks to Jay his battery dies. And a few minutes later she reports him missing.
Hes miles away from the town and claims to be on his way back. Why report him missing at that point. As far as she knows he just thirsty and on his way back.?
There's a lot about this story that reeks, to be honest. After all, he's right around the corner from houses and a bar, which given the route he took, he would have seen and it wouldn't have taken long to walk there.
Why ring a friend with 1% to complain of being thirsty (he's just left an Air BnB), has no battery, a d doesn't know where he is, or attempt to tell her any location? Why attempt an 11 hour walk rather than wait two hours for the next bus? Who was this woman he spoke to that drove past him not long after (and why was she there?)
This all sounds like bollocks, and Peter is starting to sound more like a cheesy crime documentary presenter than actual detective
@@joelhall5124I agree peter is looking to make a career out of talking pure waffle shite to anyone who will listen.and at 260k views fairplay to him.
Well she was right he is still lost.
That’s if it was even him that was messaging her. Could’ve been somebody else with his phone out there, knowing the GPS coordinates would be looked at.
It's like a desert out there, very arid, no water...if you are thirsty you are already dehydrated and won't last long. Thete is no such thing as being just thirsty - thirst is life-threatening.
What are the chances Rolex is slang for ecstasy.
What are the chances he was part of a crew of people who get paid to sling drugs at events abroad for Moroccan drug dealers.
What are the chances he lost/stole/used the stash himself and then bragged he stole " a geezers Rolex"
what are the chances those Moroccans then kidnapped him and took him back to the mountains as payback.
What are the chances these geezers wanted their money back and sent snap chats to the mother's phone saying they owed them 30k and they were not going to see him again.
What are the chances a friend would set up a go fund me to try and pay for her friends release.
What are the chances that the 2 men he went back with to the mountains had only just been released from prison for selling class a drugs.
What are the chances the 2 people he went to the mountains with also look or could be Moroccan.
What are the chances that the 2 geezers would cut their holiday short.
What are the chances we are going to see him again
Makes sense
Obviously a fan of fiction, " rolex = ecstacy? Dear oh dear.
Why would you need a code word to talk about drugs if you’re confessing to a crime over text anyway?
Bro is clueless
You're spot on bro, ignore these normies
"Normal happy go lucky" 19 year old's are not involved in gang behaviour and drug dealing /taking.
Stealing a 12k watch from dealers gets you a Darwin Award.
😂❤
Yeah a “watch”. 😂.
@@saltylips9965 😍
Maybe jay is being held because the guys who have him want the rolwx papers/ certificate 😂😂😂
@@robertwatson9940
Not in this case though. It is a watch, an AP watch rather than a Rolex though.
Masca is a long way from the resorts, I would be asking why these two men picked Masca for a holiday? there is absolutely nothing to do there other than walk the rugged tracks, the starting point has to be with the two men he left the event with.
They were obviously just there on business
I can't believe this Peter Bleksley guy, who is a former police officer, would say that a community sentence for a crime that could easily have resulted in the death of the victim is a 'substantial punishment'. I'm pretty sure that had that assault been on one of his police colleagues, Mr Bleksley would have been calling for Jay Slater to be spending life in prison. Double standards for sure. Also one of the 2 men who Jay went with, has a conviction for supplying large quantities of Class 'a' drugs which he fails to mention.
There's always one of those retired cop talking heads. About all he adds is to throw dirt on the Spanish police.
That's why the fool is on talktv
Bleksley is a notorious liberal who thinks criminals are just misunderstood people who need help and are the symptom of a sick society. Unsurprising that he would take this position; if you watch other stuff he’s done for Talk he’s almost always taken the side of the criminal.
I thought he was being sarcastic 🤔
I used to live in Tenerife. Mess with the wrong people you don't leave the island.
Same as the UK.
Interesting.
Islands are like that!
What you said applies to every single place in this planet LOL
@georgezee5173 totally agree!
You don’t just vanish in the Canaries unless someone wants you to vanish. The Canaries are a melting pot of every type of wrongun from every different culture from around the world, many which do not value life as much as most of us. I lived out there in the 90’s, the underbelly is quite substantial and serious. This lad is fishfood.
Is that mainly just in Tenerife? Hope so!
the lad is almost certainly in the sea.
It is devastating!!! This should Not happen.
No anywhere with tourist in europe@@louisejones3478
@@Robert-vw3od He's probably reading bedtime stories to Madeleine McCann .
This little villain tried to mess with the big boys, and they got rid of him
OK kid.
@@col8353He might be right. He apparently stole a Rolex, stated he couldn't go back to the Airbnb, was that because he'd stolen the watch from them? They could've gone out looking for him.
sex, drugs & techno
Drugs, gangs and a missing watch!!!
True or not,the.public need to know,are our children safe going abroad, no ,regardless of what hay slater did ,he cant be found,that's worrying,
Substantially punished ??????? How far from reality can you be.
No one would be saying that if it was thier own son or daughter with a skull cracked open and the person got community service.
All 8 of them did
Whys that all you pick up on, on a 19 minute video? Bit strange.
I cant think why he would leave the road unless he was worried that someone might see him as they drove past. Like maybe the two men from the villa, it's said now he was scared when he left. Maybe he didn't want to wait at the bus stop which was visible from their villa or walk the road where he could be seen if they drove past. It's the only reason I can think for going off the road.
Apparently the road is so windy, that it doubles back on itself. I guess if you can see where you need to be & it's straight across, you would most likely cut across to save yourself a lot of walking. It's not safe though, as Michael Moseley discovered.
If he was that worried, he wouldn’t have been walking up the road in the unknown wrong direction.
@@gaysy1st fair point but it depends on how easy the terrain, is if there are open paths maybe you would take a shortcut, but if not, or if there are obstacles or thorns maybe not, personally the critical factors, his fear, reluctance to wait for the bus, the theft of either a watch or drugs and his apparent desire to leave the road suggest that the two geezers are involved, reckon he got on the wrong side of them somehow and he was caught and removed using a vehicle, forensics should be all over the apartment, the two geezers, their vehicle etc
yeah what makes most sense to me is that he didn’t wanna wait around for the bus after stealing these guys’ rolex because they could catch him, and probably thought his only option was to go through the mountains to not get caught and have his ass beat by the guys he just robbed
“ Normal guy” that nearly killed someone, violently mugged another person, and stole a Rolex….
That's quite Normal in Britain
@@sergez6172maybe in your world. Certainly not mine. There is a underclass that thinks violence is a normal part of life but it’s far from what I experience in my life, or the average British person.
TROLL
He didn’t steal a Rolex…Rolex is slang for ecstacy pills.
@@virginiaka5902I agree with your comments.
Funny how the media was slating us "armchair detectives" now its coming out that we were actually right.
They are Slaters
They stir the sh*t & then accuse, us level headed people of being the armchair detectives.
Us 🙄
Right about what eh?
@@lizb4156exactly. No valid evidence .
The question is... Why would Jay honestly go back to the house with these men? Where were his actual friends? Why did he not go back with anyone else. I think they know far more than they are letting on.
Yes what ever jay stole I think theyv stolen from him if it was valued 12k.the drug dealers all abt money.maybebtheybdrugedcthe boy & followed him .but the dealer lying .our police need to be over there.
... His friend bailed early and he wanted to party. Very common.
May have been a homosexual encounter
He was probably on it all night, when you've been snorting all night rational decisions don't usually present themselves. Speaking from experience
He wasn't up for the bunnning.
Just because the police say that the two British men at the B&B are not of any significant interest, doesn’t mean that they aren’t watching those guys & they aren’t interested in them; it could mean they don’t want those guys to know that they’re still watching them, following them and interested in them. I would be, in their shoes.
Yes....giving them a false sense of security 👍
@@irenerafferty3786 exactly! So they behave more openly and don’t feel suspected, but I bet that their every move is, and has been watched from the moment they left Tenerife.
The Spanish police are experts in appearing incompetent.
Supposedly back in UK.
Back in the Uk ages ago
This case was suspicious from the start. His friends and family were the biggest suspects.. his mother never went out on any of the searches. If it was my child I would be on my hands and knees turning every rock over. Second was the Go Fund me who was started within no time. And then his criminal history that was covered up and his mum lying about him being an angel
And now he's stole a rolex worth 12 grand that's why he's missing
Who from ?
@@jaxworld4490it's an a.p watch not.rolex
rolex means Es @@jaxworld4490
Same. I have 4 teenage sons and have to use a wheelchair to ‘walk’ any distance due to spine damage. If one of mine went missing, regardless of terrain, I’d be out there in hiking boots and scooting up and down on my arse, if that’s what it took. None of this sits right at all.
Why would you report a person missing so quickly when you have recently spoke to them and know their phone is about to die?
Maybe because she knew he'd find himself stuck. What I don't get, is why neither her nor Brad sent a cab for him?
And set up a gfm so soon!
@@gaysy1st what address would you give the cab driver?
@@margopaton3240 I'm off for a nice countryside stroll if I'm not back within 4 hours?!? Set up a GFM.
@@RA-wp6th Bar Masca, TF-436, 1, 38489 Buenavista del Nte., Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain 🙄
Moncler Jacket Jay is wearing costs £1,350, I wonder how he could afford it. Why is the convicted Criminal who tried to flood Wales 🏴 with drugs, allowed to travel abroad all over the Place. People on Benefits aren’t allowed to travel freely so why can criminals?
Why did he use a fake name?
Noticed that too
What mug would pay 1350 for chavvy Moncler 😂
@MariTeabag-lf1ly Are people on benefits not allowed to travel freely. You sure that's a fundamental part of our right as a human.
@@Northstar-Media The logic is that you shouldn’t be able to afford a foreign holiday. Benefits are for basics of life only. The can stop people’s benefit if they have a holiday or go into hospital.
This guy talks complete bollocks… he clearly has no idea about the drug situation in Tenerife and this is what it’s to do with… if you mess with the devil the devil will finish you! It happens in the UK every day!!
Reminds me of Mr. Morris from Friday Night Dinner 😆
He is going over what has happened so far
You tell them
Only people who have lived there really understands the drug situation there. As an ex resident there. NRG festival... drug selling time.
I believe the x detective blakely is clued up about tenerife however he's not giving any thing
For a policeman he seems to put a lot of faith in the veracity of statements of several people who could possibly be colluding. As he says you HAVE to keep an open mind but he may be following a well laid trail of breadcrumbs. As Gregory House said - everybody lies..
Spot on. The police often have blinkers on when it comes to these cases. They find a theory that fits & go with it. i.e Nicola Bulley
Plus he wrote off the snap chat the mum received as a hoax but how on earth would they have her number ?
Someone printed missing person posters with her phone number on it instead of the local police.
This is just the notoriety tenereife doesn't want. The island authorities have on many occasions made references to certain types of british visitors that are bringing the island into disrepute.
If somthings happend they don't always advertise it there.we were on holiday in Tenerife when at the local shop a few min from where we stated a English lady was beheaded ànd 2 were hurt,we were there another 3weeks and it was mentioned Nowere! So they do keep things quiet( It was texts from back home that told us about it)
@@mscoleman Are you referring to a case that happened more than a decade ago? I perfectly remember reading that news story on all the mainstream media. It was some schizophrenic Eastern European guy, if my memory serves me well, that took an old British lady hostage inside a shop and then proceeded to cut her head off. It was all over the news, at least here in Spain.
Certain types of British visitors??? People that bring money to the island 🤷♀️ surely they should concentrate on the Moroccan drug gangs that are bringing the island down. 👍
Blatant damage control from Bleksley and these channels after vilifying the publics questions. Hes saying everything he bad mouthed people for.
Yep, what a skilled detective. Two weeks behind the 'conspiracy theorists.'
Exactly hypocrisy at its best. No doubt he is a smokescreen
Eh with the greatest of respect I think he publicly came out and said he owes an apology for maybe dismissing some people on social media who were viewed as conspiracy theorists, 'armchair detectives' they may have had an angle that did need looking at and not dismissed.
@@maggieedwards3951 he said it ONLY after alot of what the public had said was coming out officially. Had all this not been confirmed he'd still be badmouthing everyone. But they'll do the same over the next incident to hit the news.
@@poundstone26wondering what's behind that smokescreen.. hopefully they are actually working to solve this shocking and confusing case rather than ostensibly focusing on the conspiracy theories that change every time a new (validated or not) detail comes up.
Not one friend or family member looks upset about this situation. Everytime they have done anything to camera it seems like they suddenly act upset at the end of the interview & it’s like crocodile tears from the father & mother & in the case of Brad he didn’t look like he even had any concern. They must’ve all known what he was involved in and they know more than we’re getting told from the friends & family, they don’t look frantic at any point even In the first few days. Strange reaction. ✌️
i understand its strange it could just be because people cope differently. i understand where you are coming from. i just hope and pray jay will be found safe.
They all know the truth and what's actually going on.
Because they're crisis actors, and Slater NEVER actually existed. Think the Memory Hole from 1984
Yes. It's like they've forgotten, then remembered to act emotional.
They all knew jay was upto no good and was out of control. They tried to keep him out of mischief but jay didn't listen
Those 2 men staying at the Airbnb look scary. Why would they have anything to do with a 19 year old kid?? Not good.
It seems all 3 of them were doing gay things. I guess that’s why Jay went with them.
They look Somalian
Why do they look scary? Coz they're black? They don't look scary at all.
@lizb4156 you can be black and look pleasant but this 2 most certainly look scary ..them 2 are most relevant in this missing case of young Jay S
They have lots of kids selling drugs for them .. these guys are all over the UK and there are plenty ...they usually resolve disputes when one of their workers has trouble
I have been to Masca, no one in their right mind would stray off the road.
Unless you were worried that someone might see you as they drove past. Like maybe the two men from the villa, it's said now he was scared when he left. Maybe he didn't want to wait at the bus stop which was visible from the villa or walk the road where he could be seen if they drove past. It's the only reason I can think for going off the road.
Being honest if I was worried about someone after me I'd go to somewhere with people around, not somewhere random with nothing. Think about it
@@littleboots9800the woman from the B&B after telling him the time of the bus and were to get it said a while later she seen him go the wrong way, why did she not tell him it’s the wrong way
@@MidnightHero64 who knows? But she didn't have to, he knew where the bus stop was, she told him when it was coming, what more should she have to do? She probably thought he'd changed his mind, or just didn't give it much thought.
@@littleboots9800 Exactly. People here are overthinking the most simple stuff just to point their fingers at people that are not to blame. She probably thought he had changed his mind or was just having a walking while his bus was to come 2 hours later, which is not a weird thing to do at all, and actually, that could be the real reason why Jay was walking that way.
If he was in the mountains wouldn't the buzzards and Egyptian vultures be circling the body by now?
Yeah alot of the body will of been eaten by animals now
Eddie, good point, the buzzards would have stood out
@@eddiehockley4144 Egyptian vultures? Why Egyptian?😂
There are no vultures in Tenerife. The few ones that live in the Canary Islands are located in Fuerteventura and Lanzarote, the Eastern islands that are closer to continental Africa.
@eddiehockley4144 well they haven't been seen in 2 weeks.. which means they have already ate him
As a father I couldn’t comprehend how the parents feel.
Makes me wanna never leave the home!
Let alone abroad!
He sounds like nothing but trouble.
His friends must have been involved with him in the Rolex robbery. No wonder they are all so tight lipped
Even the one getting interviewed looks dodgy af looks like a right cheeky chap, defo not right this.
They all come across as thieves and have involvement in this very stinky case. ? Hmmm. Hardly ' normal ' lad if he uses machetes in a fight 8 against 1.
@@benscotti1991 yeah, his eyes are too close together.
@@colmhauser9532 🤣🤣
@@colmhauser9532 I was always told not to trust anyone who's eyes are too close together
I don't think he's missing. I think he's in hiding.
Prob in the basement
Or being held
i think hes back in uk.
under a pool I expect
I think he’s in hiding too & his parents know he is safe!
Nothing makes sense and NO family member looks or sounds upset
even the mother couldn't even fake crocodile tears
They are stressed and worried and hoping he turns up alive..his Dad seemed very upset.
I’ve only seen an interview with his dad and he looked very upset. Stop judging people because they don’t show emotions in the way you want.
Everyone deals with grief difficulty. What do you expect them to do? Cry heavily on live TV so the whole world can watch them suffer? Don't be ridiculous. Everyone is different.
@@blue1984 Exactly
They say the last person to see you alive is the person who has done you harm look at Huntley ??
I know it's a longshot, but has anyone tried contacting the A-Team?
Sir, today you win the Internet for the funniest comment 😂😂😂
The class A team ?
😂😅
"I ain't getting in no plane"
no but liam neeson on staandby
Why is the somali in the UK? He should be on the first flight back home. One way
He'll be partying with labour back in.
I got robbed off one in Manchester, he was illegal, two years later he’s still in Manchester
Racist much? DUH!
Lucy knows. The first thing the mother said was I'm not Sharon Matthews - the mother who reported her daughter missing when she'd hidden her with a friend. Why on earth say that ? Lucy sets up a Go Fund Me. He is supposed to owe £30,000 to dealers. Then it all went horribly wrong. He should have come out of hiding within a week.
She said it because that's what people had been calling her
I saw the comments myself. One of the few people I believe has no idea what is going on is his mum.
If he took advice from Inbetweeners Jay he'd have kept a 20 up his arse.
He probably already used it sniffing up cocaine the day before he went missing,
😂😂
Mate literally just finished watching that 😂😂😂
either he's been offed for messing with the wrong people or he's messed with the wrong people and had to fake his own d34th and disappear into hiding.
Yes, there can only be these two options 🤪
You might be right, mate
Agreed
Could be in police protection giving evidence
He's chilling with Tupac in Cuba
As soon as the Spanish police knew Jay had stayed at that Airbnb that should have been taped off searched and gone over forensically to rule it out.
The two men should have been taken in for questioning photographed and fingerprinted so they could determine who they were. None of that was done.
They assumed because his phone was in the mountain that Jay was not necessarily so. The phone could have been left there. Have they asked Jays phone provider for his call data. Did they check Lucy and Brads call data from their provider. Did that check the two men’s call data.
Did they locate the hire car and forensically check that.
Have they checked around the immediate grounds surrounding the Airbnb perhaps something been burnt clothing.
And if one of these guys was running a cannabis cafe in Player De Americas wouldn’t he have had accommodation there. Why would he be staying at least an hour away for one or two nights. But travelling in to the bars and clubs. Why were they allowed to leave Tenerife without being checked out first.
Sorry Peter but with new information now coming out such as Lucy knowing these guys and pictures of her in one of their company I’m not believing that this lads disappearance is nothing to do with them or Lucy or something nefarious going on in Tenerife. The whole lot of them need going over with a fine toothcombe and brought back for questioning.
not the brightest is he?
"indisputable" that Jay was there at 7.30, because we have a photo of a hand that could be Jay's and some shoes that could be Jay's.
No actual photo of Jay, but it is indisputable!
Sir, I dispute that that photo is a photo of Jay. No face of Jay means might not be Jay.
yes that photo is just plain strange...
Kids take photos of their feet all the time….. it’s a thing they do. “WYS?” (What are you up to/doing/saying) Is often replied to with a “snap”. In this case he was sitting on the doorstep smoking. Us adults don’t communicate like that. It’s younger generations.
@@Kellycreator and just like grandma, he has that blanket hanging down perfectly and straight, right down to his shoes, legs not crossed, again, all perfectly in order. must be a younger generation thing.
Qassim said "his blanket". Do you think Jay brought his own blanket with him that night?
And we know Jay's social media account (s) was/were hacked. 'Ridiculous comment.
I want to know. How did he get the money to finance his trip to a dance festival. How he is linked to a 'former' drug dealer and how he finances his trips to Spain.
He had a job as a bricklayer
Send your questions on a postcard to Comandante Pascual Fernandez at Guardia Civil, 115, Paseo Marítimo Playa de Las Vistas, s/n. Los Cristianos. Arona. 38650
He's an apprentice, so very low pay until qualified.
@@Radgiie Lol...
@@AdamFaulkner-t2t have you had your eyes closed around council estates these days or something? 😂
Obviously didn't learn his lesson then....
They never do...
drtwest! Shut up
Na i think you need to shut up and educate yourself on the case
Yeah the Somalian has done his time and can now be trusted,"he arrived alive he left alive we even gave him a blanket".Why draw attention to a blanket..oh that one JAY was wearing in the selfie on the steps?Why do 99.9999 of kids take selfies?To tell everyone IM HERE FFS,that selfie tells me sweet FA It could have been me.
This reminds me of the Dylan rounds case he went missing in utah it turned out he was murdered by a James Brenner who worked for Dylan and lived nexted door. He hide Dylans body in the utah rugged desert. He lied and said he had seen Dylan. Now he's currently in prison.
Kids take snaps of their feet all the time….. guess you’re not parents
@@Kellycreator what are they called footies?
I don't think we've lost a Nobel prize winner.
Can someone tell me in the comments what peter actually uncovers here?
Nothing, he's doing the same as the people he's calling out for doing it...
F/A like all copper lol talk bollox
Telling a very slow story.
Clearly padding it out for UA-cam ad revenue.
The bloke doesn't know what he's talking about, substantial punishment , my arse.
Jay’s stepdad said he didn’t really want to go. He was persuaded. There’s at least 2 other men who have reported been robbed, woke up somewhere random in the mountains or missing for 4 days. Could these be the same men who attacked the other 2 men? It’s quite possible.
😂😂Yahh right as if he wauld know
@@catcoffee7958 as if who would know?
@@peacefulpath222 I think they might be referring to jays dad knowing that jay was persuaded to go with them (2 men) ,,
how would he know ? N if true why has this not been mentioned?
Jay was killed at sea they stripped him. the guy in Jay's clothes at door isn't jay it's the guy who was with Lucy the rolex is also a cover up it was a kg of tackle lucy and brad put his phone up in the hills along with his glasses to save themselves. He was shot and threw in the sea with a heavy vest. You will never find him or his body. Code of honor in the drug trade. Nobody will talk they all know the consequences. He was on the trafficking boat the maruba at 8.30 am transponder off and at the same time lucy and brad were making it look as if he was at the air bnb
Doubt they did all that mate.
If you live on the edge of serious crime expect serious crime to happen. There are always much bigger sharks in the sea
A substantial punishment? You're having a laugh eh?
I agree
If he'd got 20 years in prison I'd have said it was justified
If you knew the “kid” they attacked and the sort of person he is, you would tell yourself it was justified and they shouldn’t have been punished at all.
Its all to do with drugs
Everything starts with an E 😂
DCI susan is here
Sherlock Holmes’s 🤣😭🤣
I agree.
@@ralfmalf5828no, he stole Rolex. That isn’t a watch, and is worth much more in street value than E. 😂
She slips up right at the start "someone may be keeping him against his will. I dunno, there's allsorts going on.....(pause), in my head obviously".
Then she pretends to cry, because she realises she's just said "there's allsorts going on".
Yes
As a parent myself I would cling to any theory if it gave me hope my son is still alive.
Mother shaking her head no to everything she's saying with shrugging shoulders and lots of eye blocking, she's being deceptive
quit with amateur body language nonsense ... everyone thinks they're behavioural experts after watching a few UA-cam videos, it's madness
May the internet save us from amateur psychobabble body language 'experts'. 🙄
@@ericambler486 The parents need to gave the ransomed money for what it was intended for not extended family holiday get proper investigates in and pay them not going too get any answers or results as it is as it is be going on for months
You’ve done a complete 180 Bleksley
Is hopeless, just a commentator.
Can't find 8 foot kevin
@@bomberboltonin your opinion mate
@@susank-in6irand mine
Why is nothing said about the watch theft and message jay sent regarding it???
Cant see him bragging he just stole an expensive watch or a load of drugs to someone on a message
@@susandavey2361exactly
Apparently he did though.
I can. Everything 's on the phone these days...
It’s not a watch. Rolex on the street is Colombian white nose candy. That’s what he took.
Why did Lucy or Brad not order him or pay for him a taxi back to the accommodation that they were all staying in?! If my friend had been on drugs & gone to an afters with people they were no longer comfortable around that’s what I would do! Especially abroad…you all have to look after each other, I would never leave a friend in a club on their own. He was obvs in a state & did not want his night to end because of the drugs… I get that. But I always stood by a saying when I was younger that if we went out together, we should come home together.
Why would they order him a taxi when he could have walked there in ten minutes?
It's strange that Lucy immediately reported him as missing person. She was so sure ?
She reacted as a true friend reported to the Police straight away to look after him knowing that he is in the rugged terrain without water and phone about to run out of battery...What is strange there? Assertive and worried for the friend... Wish all close people in similar situation report to the Police straight away (just in case even if is too much ...that's the Police job ...)
He was a missing person. He was in the middle of the north of the island with no way to get back.
BRING JAY HOME
What would you do if your best friend had gone missing in a remote area of a strange island with no phone contact, no shelter or water?
I imagine your best friend would hope you'd call the police...
He was missing person - he did not come back to their hotel and did not meet his friends all night long and following morgning, calling that he is somewhere on the way being thirsty and with low battery on his phone... that is red alarm for all sensitive people.
Since the main characters involved in this all reside in the UK, can they not be hauled in and made to answer questions by the UK National Crime Agency?
Yes. I reckon the Police will be on it. You would hope so. The guy involved was in jail for 9 years, drug dealer.
There would seem to be no apparent crime relevant to UK soil at present. You could be questioned if you had assaulted someone abroad but this is officially still a missing persons case according to local police as far as we know. Lots of people go missing abroad and it is usually left to local agencies to deal with it.. If the local police say it is now a murder investigation then things could change.
@@keithmatthews1673 However, British police can always have a consensual interview with these people.
How does anyone know the photo on the doorstep is him?
That is why the legs are covered......
Strange photo why would you take and send a photo of a door step with just a bit of legs and holding a cigarette at 7.30am. Very strange!!
Imo the picture of the feet is not weird. I see my teenager do it all the time & their friends. What i find weird is the floral/ multicolor skirt? Or what is that...
@@ajr3530it's a blanket.
@@theknightwhosmokedthelaugh7156 never seen a blanket draped like that though. Must have been one thin blanket
Where's the car that might hold some clues!!!
The two men from the B & B are key to what happened to Jay. The Spanish police were wrong to let them go.
Unfortunately, the police had no grounds to hold them. It's still a missing person case and not a criminal one. If the body doesn't turn up looking suspicious, or other evidence of violence isn't found, they'll get away with whatever they did, assuming that they did anything at all. Also, the police, both Spanish and UK, probably know a lot more than they're letting on to the media, but proof is always the problem.
Also no activity of the 4 birds of prey are around the area
What do you mean?
@westynufc90 he means that if Jay's body was there birds would be circling him.
Thought he meant 4 splitarses mate
Buzzards, Egyptian vultures , penguins and what else
@@andersondasilva1334 slags
The two men who he got in the car with look like gangsters
They are known drug dealers who know Lucy !!!
It wouldn’t surprise me if they were dealing in drugs and Jay was selling them on at the festival. Jay couldn’t pay them the money for the drugs he was supposed to sell because he had used most of them for his personal use. I think his friends, Lucy and the boy, know this and tried to raise funds to pay the dealers back. Maybe Jay will appear soon or maybe the two blokes just took him out. Either way I think there are people not being entirely honest about what they know about his disappearance.
They ARE gangsters.
They wouldn't wipe him out for a poxy 6 grand ..
They are known for giving a chance to ppl like jay by allowing them to work it off and make a payment plan.
Eg do favours for the.
Like drop of parcels
Do grows
Etc until its paid off
They literally own you until the bill is paid but in the same token they will back you up to the hilt if someone else troubled you whilst u were under their care
@@andersondasilva1334 This makes sense. What then do you imagine happened to Jay?
was it jay calling Lucy….or her bosses on his phone and telling her his phone on 1% and stick to that story?
Peter is repeating what Brad and Lucy have said as if its factual. We dont know this. Nor do we know that the photos of him on the step is actually him or taken by him. You cant say he was definitely there just on the sayso of his 2 friends. nor can you say that the phone calls took place. I don’t understand why no one is questioning the total lack of evidence.
Play stupid games
Win stupid prizes 😢
Very very weird, sad for his family nonetheless
I’ve ended up in a similar situation. Tried to walk home drunk ended up lost in the country side at 3am with -4 temperatures and my phone had died. Collapsed in a doorway of a small church in the middle of nowhere and was found by a dog walker next day. It’s easy to get yourself into trouble like this
“ Back in 2021, Jay was involved in an assault case which saw an eight-member gang attack Tom Hilton with a machete, golf club and an axe, leaving him with severe injuries and fighting for his life.
As a result, Jay received an 18-month community order with 25 days rehabilitation activities and 150 hours unpaid work for violent disorder, completed shortly before his trip to Tenerife.”
Wow - I don’t think his punishment was appropriate - Jay should of been sent to jail - what a psycho
What would a young lad have to do with two 40 year old men? Was he gay? Was he buying drugs? Most certainly it was not for a friendly chat and a place to stay the night.... I think that he did something to upset the men, or stole something from them and made a sharp exit. That's why he was not stood by the bus stop. He ran off, cross country, thinking he would find an easy route back to where he was staying. Instead, he found himself in a fix, possibly descending a hill that turned into a steep climb and found he could not get back up. He fell, or died of dehydration. Perhaps he is miles away on the wrong side of the mountain. Most 19 year olds have no clue about navigation, nor experience of this type of terrain......
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Easy to hitch a lift by sticking to the main road. When things don’t make sense all types of conspiracies float about. Great report 👍
Even if you missed the bus you could start walking and try and hitch or stop at the next bus stop. But then why didn't the friend say sit tight at the bus stop I am on my way, because she knew where he was.
Easy to get the bus that comes every 10 minutes
Why would the law abiding Lucy ring the police to report him missing when his phone died??? That's very strange
Unless she knew something else
Off his face on drugs in unfamiliar, mountainous area with no battery and dehydrated with no drink. That might be why
He couldn't have been off his face that much, he was asking for bus times?? And the lady said he was walking fast.. that's quite a feet when your K Hold or on E's.
Those two "British" guys know more than they are saying
@@funkyboda Ive always managed to use the phone and get home on pills or K
@@MrJeffHead Dehydrated? he was walking for 30 mins only just left the air bnb?
@@jamielfc9232 probably been on pills etc at the rave which would have made him dehydrated. Reported to have said he was thirsty. 30 mins until his phone ran out of battery, might have hiked for another 5 hours
Machete, no remorse, and laughs at the trial. Karma will sort you out.
I think the question is where is he hiding and who's hiding him??!! 🤔
He’s probably dead now
@@bigtuss7482chopped up for fish bait
@@bigtuss7482 it's like if he was kidnapped at first from the whole meadia circus it's harder to let him go so they may of killed him 😞 no matter what went down his life shudnt b taken .
@@bigtuss7482maybe jay slater felt inside the sea
@@TinaMarie94 maybe he did something strange for a bitta change
Why does everyone keep saying that the photo outside the villa with someone holding a cigarette is Jay? Look at the clothing! From the previous photos of Jay, this is NOT something that he would wear. It looked like a skirt or culottes? Also, most men would hold their cigarette differently. Do they look like Jay's shoes? I don't think that this is Jay!
I think the blanket is to hide the legs of the person trying to be Jay, l don’t think it was him.
@@AquariusGirl27 it's like the police have lost the ability to think. They just believe everything that they are told
Keep up. Its a blanket from the house.
I don't think it is indisputable that it is Jay at all eithrr
@@kl5631true but its not 💯 Jay either
Valuable time was wasted portraying Jay as an innocent 19 year old on his first holiday abroad.Obviously I don’t know what the family and friends told police but if it had been investigated as drug related perhaps they would have solved this by now .
defiately dryg related-he owed a lot of money!!
Cops are not stupid. They know it involves drugs and/or dealing.
You can’t help but feel that there’s far more to this story than meets the eye. Unfortunately, it’s looking increasingly unlikely that Jay will be found alive now. Initially, it seemed more than likely that he had simply got lost, but it’s now looking increasingly likely that he’s been murdered.
Peter Bleksley is a well experience police officer for the Met .
He was a murder officer now retired . So you could say he knows what he is talking about .
However....it seems he didn't know that one of the 2 men was a convicted drug dealer who had attempted to.saturate Wales with crack cocaine and MethsA!
That was a great summary of events and unanswered questions …Thank you!
Thanks sid james 👍 sounds like the old bill are some how involved in it as well
I disagree with the coment that must be Jay on the steps of the house-no clear facial picture, no defendable evidence. Surely, someone would take a selfie and not a picture of thier feet, unless, it was taken acidentally. Then, you have to think that the selfie came next?
It's certainly not a typical selfie pose from someone of this generation.
Unless hes hiding, for whatever reason, hes dead. No food or water for 2 weeks....no way.
🤔I think so too… but where is his body?
@@user-kf3yz7so6q Bottom of the atlantic ocean most likely
the acting has gone downhill since Karen Matthew's day
Poor innocent lad ??? I don't think so you live by the sword you die by the sword I was always told this is what happens to wanna be Mr Bigs
If those men, he was friends with, had a vechile, why did they not offer to give him a lift back to where he was staying, they must have known it was a remote area....with the probability of no public transport there. Did they argue- surely, he would have had a drink there before leaving?
Why would he video phone a friend when it will use the most battery life? Why not send a text?
Why did he phone/talk to another friend at 08.30am - why not text?
Was he concerned? Is there something about these calls we have not heard about?
Why not call a taxi or Uber?
The two men need investigating further. Why did they book the air bnb for three nights and leave the country the day jay went missing..
Why does Jay's friends always seem nervous or don't want to show their faces. I believe the friends know these two men and feel threatened to talk to the police.
The guys a convicted drug dealer for fucks sake.
The 2 guys left the day after Jay's disappearance
@@robinsonsarah143 and?
@@TheMarlinspike I'm just saying those 2 men didn't leave the day he disappeared they left the day after, one of the men said that when they was being questioned by the police
@@TheMarlinspike so don't understand ur AND
He bit of more than he could chew, wanted to live the thug life, he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar maybe now he’s taking a forever nap no doubt.
Here is another question...were the Police immediately made aware of what kind of person Jay was and his past? For future reference, here's another saying: play stupid games, win stupid prizes and here's another one.. Karma never loses an address 🤷
You say his punishment was a serious one 😂 they chopped someone up with machetes and didn’t go to prison 🙄 that’s the trouble right there, kids and young people get away with serious crimes and nothing is done about it, so they think they invincible.
Billy Bennett & Ricky D’Cotta both went missing under strange circumstances back in the day same island and disappeared forever never to be seen again. Lots of people have gone missing over the years for many reasons.
Jays parents are acting suspiciously. i can't believe no expert has picked up on it.more questions than answers.
Yes and where are the body language experts
Well told story but importantly Peter omitted to mention the plausible and highly probable scenario involving this young thug being on the island to deal drugs. That’s what young people do at these raves ! Also the drugs angle suits the situation of a 19 year old going off with 2 older men .
Paul didn't find the sunglasses, Christopher did.
Yeah it was a ex army bloke
I believe the Somalian guy has something to do with it I reckon they followed him from the bnb put him in another rental vehicle and got rid of his body somewhere totally different on the island. You never gonna find him if this is the case unless they confess to it
Either his clogs have popped or he’s being held captive. Only time will tell.
Bruv ..He went to have a 3 way with a couple a bummers
@@gjthomas9770
Maybe he’s in hospital having rectal reconstruction surgery?
@JAY1892 Ahhh . Your name is Jay . Wink wink . Say no more, son
@@gjthomas9770
😂 Whatchoo talking about Willis?
@JAY1892 lol... How you know that phrase. SO COOL.
As I don't do any kind of social media I am puzzled as to how the unknown person phoned Jay's mother; how did he know her phone number?
The Spanish police have done everything they can so don’t blame them. ❤️
2:42 substantial punishment???? Please tell me that was sarcasm