The Evolution of the Omega Seamaster 300m (2021, Spectre, CK2913)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- A Discussion around the Design Evolution of the Omega Seamaster 300m and the modern development of the line. This video investigates the leaked 2021 Seamaster by looking back at the history of the CK2913 and how the modern iterations aim to pay tribute to those past references. The question is whether the new model looks too old-fashioned. Does the line deserve an overhaul to make it even more competitive amongst its contemporaries?
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A "heritage" release should look classic, not old. You got it right with those white markers, they are stunning.
The "old" look is getting kinda old haha! Especially on modern pieces (reissues can get some character) but wow, thinking what a difference the modern look would make on this classic... Thank you for the comment, Shaun!
Please give this man a job as designer at Omega!!!
The opportunity would be something else... BUT the chances of my design being taken forward? Slim. Too many seniors and higher-up's who'd probably disapprove on X, Y & Z. Don't I know it ;) Thank you Paco, your comment really means a lot
Don't you dare Paco.
YT needs him.
..,and I want to buy Smiths and have him work for ᴀʟʟ of us there.
😊
@@anthonysmith2982 I'd rather be of service to many, Anthony. Agreed ;)
Indeed. That design is on-point!
@@ID-Guy all I know is I will be the first in line when You create a real watch. Amazing talent can't be unrecognised by the industry forever.
another great video my friend!! I do love omega. The spectre watch made me sit up and take notice all over again and introduced me to this vintage lineage of the seamaster. I think its one of the slickest dive watches of all time, very underappreciated!!
Isn't it awesome how underrated the watch still is? But those who know, know? ;) It is very special. I would've loved to have seen them continue this formula with the line and streamline it even further. Who know, maybe we will see a change one day soon. Thank you for the comment, brother!
Another video Gem my friend. I find that your rendering for a new Seamaster 300 would take Omega to the next level. You should request to join their design studio. Now, if Omega might take the 300 back to a 39 or 40mm case size, that would be worth waiting for. As always thanks for all the hard work you execute to enlighten us.🔥
My pleasure as always Reed and thank you for your thoughts on it. I also get this feeling that a fresh, modern look would have people in the watch community going nuts for it (maybe that's just a guess though) - and if Omega were to reach out with an opportunity, I'd be humbled. The downside to working in a studio is that you idea may never see the light of day (purely because of heavies and seniors having their say) So there's pros and cons of working solo ;) Also agree on the sizing. The 39mm size with 49mm lugs could fit so many wrists, not just the lean guys and gals out there. Thank you as always!
Yes, whether the modern render version (which I also like) or the new version that is coming, the watch should be offered in 39mm.
@@mindgraphy_ Omega should think of the market share they could capture with a 39mm Seamaster 300!
@@reedgrabowski8314 Absolutely, look how well Tudor is selling smaller BlackBay watches.
I am the proud owner of Semaster 300 from 2014 and i have to say....still, after 6,5 years i'm in love in that watch. It is so versatile that it can be almost anything you want, just not the dress watch, because it's 14,6mm thick.
Having watched your videos from the beginning, I stand in awe at the leaps and bounds you have taken. From you very apologetic beginnings, to this offering, where your enthusiasm has never waned, but your confidence has grown. And it has grown in such a fashion that your thoughts and ideas are now fully respected, as they should be! Keep up your great work and love of our passion, it has been a priveledge watching you grow!
The SPECTRE Edition is my favorite. I love the 0-11 numbered bezel and the removal of the 12 hour mark.
Although not a fan of the new Seamaster, I bought a 2015 Seamaster 300 . Just a year ago I was fortunate to buy a Specter. These vintage inspired watches are my favorites for sure .
I agree with you. I have the 2014 version but the Spectre is the true king of all the Seamaster reincarnations. Thickness is not an issue for us
I would love to see a live-stream where everyone could be the CEO of a watch company of their choice and what changes they would make! Hope IDGuy would pick Omega-they need some help! Great vid.
What a fantastic idea!! This needs to be written down somewhere. I love the concept, underachieving!
I asked Thomas that question on my first live stream! It’s a great question isn’t it
Excellent rendering, but I actually like the faux patina, surprisingly. If it is white, then I hope it does get that creamy colour in 20-30 years, and I can watch it changing through my life
I like the faux patina, too. If they would replace the 12 marker with Omega logo like in the Spectre and make it 39mm it would be close to perfection. 👌🏼
If this guy designed a line of watches, and I had the money to burn, I'd snap up every single one of them.
Seriously dude, your keen eye for design elements is unparalleled! You know what works and why, but in a way that also appeals to the eye as well.
👍❤
Wow, your render reminds me alot of my 42mm Planet Ocean 2500, it's still my favorite modern Omega diver design as it has so many elements from the originals as you've mentioned.
Great video, now I want one.
Don't I know the pain, Rob... Guaranteed you'll be getting hands-on with the new 2021 model soon enough though (always eager to see your take on the pieces) ;)
I like your design best! I’m getting tired of faux patina and gilt dials on vintage inspired pieces-seems like they are trying too hard. Best regards
Thank you, Underachieving. There's a great commenting mentioning "patina must be earned" and I agree when looking at these modern examples. Thanks again for taking the time to watch the video, brother
I would go for yours, patina should be earned! White was the original intention, white should be what is designed now. It also fits in better with the Moonwatch black and white contrast. I'm assuming the ones from 60 plus years ago have also patinated, but they don't include that with the modern iterations.
Patina should be earned! Love that. With the vintage reissues, I'm okay with it, but these newer models doubling down on it makes them look very peculiar in some circumstances. I hope you're well and keeping busy, Stu! Great seeing you in the comments, brother
That's a great comment Stu and one that is very difficult to disagree with.
I love 'earned' patina. That's almost always the very thing that draws me to certain vintage tool watch models - the manner in which they Patina. An N.O.S Tudor Snowflake NM would be a dream, but it's not as visually appealing as a well worn piece, at least to me.
However, with todays tech., super-luminova won't patina, at least not in the time or manner that we appreciate as patina today.
And that's something that I think is a shame.
I bought a Certina DS PH200M - with Hesalite and aluminium, so in 25 - 30yrs I'll definitely have a watch that's earned its own patina - but I am disappointed that the lume (most likely) won't have started to turn the same hue as a watch from 1990-ish has today.
I think that's why I don't mind a bit of faux lume, particularly (but not soley) on a 'stop-gap' watch, my Steinhart 1655 Explorer II 'copy' for example...
I'll upgrade it to a 'keeper' one day soon (ish), so I'm happy to enjoy the artificially aged lume on my copy of the watch I ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ want... for a few years anyway.
To return to my opening sentence; It's very hard to disagree with you and the next 'keeper' I buy will be earning it's patina for sure.
Yet, I definitely have room for both in my watchbox. And not only on 'stop-gap' pieces. The '57 Seamaster 300 re-issue is in my future - with its mix of white arabics & super-luminova 'old radium' indicies. It'll still earn its own patina over time too. 😊
Cheers Stu. Thanks for the thought provoking comment mate.
TL/DR- Stu's right, but faux lume can still be a good thing.
Lume in the 50ies was never stark white and modern lume will never get patina. It's a logical choice to use colored lume for watches that are vintage inspired.
The year is 2121...
Omega has just released their throwback reissue of their 2021 throwback reissue.
Meanwhile, the street price of a used Rolex Datejust is $35,000 USD.
This is so accurate. AND it wouldn't surprise any of us in the slightest ;)
Subs were only a few hundred bucks in the 60s, right?
$35,000? Pfft, try $350,000!
@@Ohmie For that money you could get already haute horlogerie
If the Seamaster 300 you described here comes out in retail, I will buy one...great one. Cheers, IDGuy...
You've hit the nail on the head with your version. Its time for the faux patina trend to end, especially at Omega. Its time to move forward with more modern design elements. Imagine if designers of the original Seamasters were looking back to the 20's and 30's for design inspiration...
First, great production values. Thank you for the time spent on the rendering. I think you successfully made your argument. One thing to add is that the Seamasters from the 90's (while dated with the more bloated hour indices) show how avoiding the faux patina stands the test of time (pun intended). Mine even has a splash of red on the seconds hand, which shows just how well your red "Seamaster" works on the black and white dial. I'm taken by your rendering which is slim and restrained in the indices compared to my 2264.50. The rendering is a winner.
I can really sense the passion you have for this line of Seamasters. Thank you for sharing it.
Clear, concise, informative and really interesting. Thanks for taking time to produce this. Love your design / adaption of a modern watch. Yes please Omega!!
I bought in Blue. Acknowledging you did this in advance of release, damn, you nailed it.
Ngl, this is the first time that I really like your last redesign! Also, now that I can see their new release, I love em!!
I totally Concur with Your Re-design of this Masterpiece, that Omega's Seamaster family needs.
Dang, I like the IDGuy mock up more than the actual. Good job!
Interesting parallels between your thinking and sentiments in regard to these kid and style of watches and mine. I am also a keen fan of an industrial design and watches are one of my fav domain, apart from coffee machines, hi-fi design and Vespa scooters.
My watch journey started a long time ago and I owned and sold many a Seiko, Citizen, Omega etc in the past. These days my focus is a little more refined, I also own the Omega CK2913 1957 Seamaster 300 and Seiko 62MAS re-issue but mine is SLA017 in 40mm size due to better fot to my wrist size and I find it (this could stir some thoughts from others :-)) better balanced on the dial/hands/bezel side of execution, my SJE093 (now sold) while truer to size of its OG, always felt a little 'squeezed' and pinched towards the centre of the hand stack. But that's me :) And this (dial size) is something I really like on the Omega's SM300 1957 and now on the 2021 Heritage version.
Other watches you reviewed and commented on evoke almost the exact thoughts and sentiments I also have towards them, and it appears we both like the same/similar watch models. Stay well and keep posting!
Subscribed.
Speak soon.
Great interpretation!
I kind of see the Planet Ocean 2500 as the modern end point of this watch.
It would be interesting to see a design that is half way
Giving it the white lume does bring it closer to the PO.
True - the PO 2500 was a great looker in the smaller size. I'm not sure why Omega over-modernised the PO line...
There is an homage that's halfway:
The Orthos Commander 300. Not saying it's any good, but it's an example of how the Semaster57 is related to the Planet Ocean
Another fascinating and well narrated commentary. This wasn’t a model that I was attracted to until I listened to you. I’ve a Speedmaster 50th anniversary and love both it’s design and heritage. I tried on a Spectre/James Bond model in the AD inc a NATO strap and it looked underwhelming. As my watch collection has grown and my thoughts have widened I can see the attractiveness of the elegance of the simplicity of this model range. It’s cleaner than the Speedie and the Diver 300 which I also like (and bought the new 2020 Seiko King Samurai instead as it was much cheaper but similar). I shall have to take another look at the AD. And your suggestions for improving are vg. I would have to reflect more to consider if I like your modern white baton and numerals approach more than the vintage patina style. Part of the charm is the vintage look which the radium patina gives.
Great video; and I have to say that you'd make a fantastic Consultant for Omega! As a new member to the channel, I look forward to watching more of your interesting content.
Great details regarding the history of this watch! I think I am going to love the newest 2021 the best! I am really on the fence about the faux patina, one reason I sold my Trilogy model. However, I think with this 2021 model, I will forgive the faux patina and simply concentrate one the positive elements. I have OCD about the word "Automatic" and, as you say, an essay about the other aspects of the movement. The simplicity of the text on this new model is absolutely spot on IMO. I have always loved the lollipop seconds hand as well. I can take or leave the new crown, but as long as it is easy to grip I'm OK with it. And I really like that the bracelet is going to be tapered! Thanks again for a wonderful presentation. Cheers, Carl
Sometimes the obvious needs to be pointed out to see. Greatly help appreciate the watch.
My pleasure George. That's mainly what I do haha! Stating the obvious. BUT I do love the expression "common sense is not that common" sometimes we can miss things ;) Thank you for the comment!
I like your design and I’d also give customers the option of a second version with a date option at 4:30.
excellent review- I think im going to trade in my SMP for the aforementioned... I have decided to really become a minimalist - life it not about stuff. that being said planning on selling all my watches or trade-in for the Seamaster 300- thank you.
I love Love LOVE the render that you made. Add a tapered bracelet and I think it would be perfect. I think Omega (and many other brands) are missing out by going all in on vintage.
I like the calm, retro design.
They are very striking. Something about how they blend the quarter arabics and batons together to make a more "civilised" looking dive watch always fascinates me. Thank you for the comment Frantisek!
I think the Spectre was one of the very best releases of the last decade for Omega. I adore the lollipop seconds hand and the bezel variation made it work. Take my money for your variant please.
Nice rendering
Thank you Mark! It was a fun exercise bringing all of these ideas together ;)
Recently managed to get an unworn spectre edition and it’s fantastic, love it
Put in a 12 hour bezel into your watch and it is perfect. Great job.
your last image look quite similar to some Sinn watches and thats a good thing, in my humble opinion. Best regards Oni
Oh wow... that is a honour! I have been looking at the U50 a lot lately (maybe that's where the idea stemmed from) ;) Thank you Oni!
@@ID-Guy haha, I have the basic u50 on my wrist right now and it is a hell of a watch.
I bought the latest version with the lollipop seconds hand and i wouldnt trade it for any Sub in the world. It's just so pretty, the dial, the bezel, the crown, the bracelet, the clasp! I love it so much!
The Seamaster 300 is such an ᴇxᴄɪᴛɪɴɢ piece.
In comparison I happen to find the diver from the 'other brand' so...boring.
• Omega 300 '57 re-issue
• Rolex Explorer II (1655)
• V.C. Historique American 1921
3 watch collection.
Done. Dusted.
Game Over.
Well...
Maybe a Mil. Spec. Seamaster 300 & an MN Tudor Snowflake as well...
There certainly are elements of your redesign that appeal IDGuy, but I like the faux patina on the indicies with the white Arabics + the bezel on the '57? Outstanding.
Great upload as usual mate. Always a treat to see you pop up on my feed.
Thank you for this Anthony (and for the effort) - Agree with all of your choices. I'm at a stage now where I'd be finished with dive watches if I could get a Blancpain No Rads or Military. Seamaster and FF caps off the diver segment nicely ;) As for the rest though... GMT's etc... that's another rabbit hole. Thanks for the comments as always, man. Really enjoyed putting this concept together on a blank canvas (oh, and you'll enjoy the next Rolex releases video - I've made a very slick Explorer 2 that'll never see the light of day)
@@ID-Guy
Just have Eddie make 'em!...
No. Seriously. Please. 😶Thank-you for the kind words mate.
Look, I ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜ other YT channels. I ʀᴇ-ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜ yours - and I find myself giving your ideas and work ᴀ ʟᴏᴛ of thought.
You are a talented I.D and have excellent taste, as do I. ☑️
So it's ᴍʏ pleasure bud.
Believe me.
My favorite diver omega has made was the 1957 trilogy. It was just not the right timing for me. HOWEVER the mockup you made with the spectre dial and white sandwich dial looks like a stunner. Would buy that over a sub
I love your design! Omega should hire you.
IDGUY, your Seamaster 300 1957 is the perfect watch for you. And this video reflects that bias. Except in this case bias is too strong a word. Maybe affinity is a better word. I appreciate the details you share. I would not have noticed them all. One the one hand, I like that Omega, like Rolex, is keeping extremely strong theme elements in these watches. On the other hand, maybe they might be better off picking a design and sticking with it. Maybe offer different sizes. Any way, as always love your videos. You are the only notification I have for new videos.
Bias & Affinity is the same thing to me, Karl. I can't get enough of the '57... and it's almost been a year with the watch already. You're right about shifting sizes too. I reckon for both the SMP and the SM300, introducing a "mid-size" like 39 would be a gamechanger. Thank you as always for taking the time to watch and comment on these clips, Karl. I know I'm not the best at getting back to them, but they're always read ;)
Wats ur view on the trilogy 57 will it be as good to be collectable model n hard to get
12:08 Would be a perfect build. Great idea i would like to see the same watch built.
I would absolutely buy the ID 300 Seamaster!
Joe, thank you! Seeing them take this route with the line would be incredible, but alas, who knows ;)
I concur! You say Omeega, I say Omega, let’s call the whole thing off😄!
Hahahaha! One of these days I'll make a video where I record the name 4 or 5 different ways just so we all can get along ;) Thanks for the comment, brother
watching, wearing my watch and t shirt
Underwear and pants are surplus to requirements ;) Thanks for the comment, brother!
@@ID-Guy where i come from pants, are underwear lol
Love this watch! Nice re-design... Would be great to see it on a thin new Planet Ocean ;)
The Seamaster 300 1957 reissue is my favorite watch right now. That was done right...another done right as a reissue is the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms.
Agreed and agreed! Love them both! In fact, if I was given the chance to own a "No Rads" or Military FF, I'd end it there. Seamaster 57 and Blancpain caps off the diver collection ;) Thank you so much for the comment and for taking the time to watch the clip!
Wats the chances of getting any of the trilogy 57 or the full set trilogy at AD n will I get it still retail price or gone up already
Love it. In my top 3 grails. I did like your design, but I am a fan of the fauxtina on the original.... Tho the Seamaster I really would like to see released would be an update of the model before the Brosnan- dunno the reference, its the one with the big inverted triangle at 12 and solid sword hands & wavey dial. Love that one, but doesn't seem to be popular as the other models.
Thanks ID Guy, an enjoyable episode. Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
Ah, the 2254 is a gem! Many have been clamouring for them and I love them too Steve (I might be getting one to review this year sometime) and am working on a video all about the MOD Seamaster in a lot more detail. Thank you as always, sir!
@@ID-Guy awesome, look forward to that. Thanks for your reply 👍🏻
7 months later I've got one 😊 (non Spectre one) & I'm in love . 👏👏
Great vid. I would certainly purchase your rendition of the Seamaster. Here's hoping!
Maybe it’s just me, but isn’t your new version just a thinner Planet Ocean? There are variants that look almost identical to that, I’m guessing Omega doesn’t want to eat into that line up.
As a scuba diver who swears by a mechanical dive watch- I like the big arrow on the minute hand. I don’t understand when it is on the hour hand.
Very good comment, Neill. It serves more of an aethetical purpose than anything else. And I agree, a broad arrow deserves to be on the minute hand (I'm guessing that's why they've opted for both in the Planet Ocean line of pieces) Excellent point, sir! Thank you for the comment
Dear ID guy, I am one of your greatest fun. I learnt a lot of things from your videos. You represent the another dimension of watch enthusiastism. I wish you good luck and continue to enjoy your 2017 trilogy omega seamaster 300.
PS: I have 1 OP36, 1 aquaterra 38mm, 1 Christopher ward vintage 38mm and 1 Smith's prs-25 36mm and 1 oris 65 diver bronze bezel 40mm all of them is black dial. I would like to learn your idea.
Kind Regards
Levent
Levent! Thank you!! reading through what you have in the collection, it feels like we both have similar tastes. Also enjoy that it's quite a tight-knit collection of pieces that all follow a similar theme! At the end of the day, work out how much you wear these pieces and which you wear the most. Ask yourself, Is there anything specific that I'd want from one watch in this collection that the others don't offer me? Keep enjoying your pieces, sir and thank you for taking the time to watch these videos! I really hope they have been helpful (in one way or another) ;)
@@ID-Guy Thank you for your detailed reply. In fact if I chose one of them; I chose aquaterra.
I am an engineer and fully proper for my life style however esthetic point of view, Smith's prs-25 is my number one.
I also congratulate you to redesign Smith's commando. It is wonderful. This reissue will be remembered even 30 years later. It will remain the same taste with the original.
Kind Regards from Netherlands
Levent
Your video title is a bit misleading as "300m" usually refers to the Seamaster Diver 300M instead of the Seamaster 300 if I'm not mistaken. Apart from that, great video. I'd buy the version you designed in an instant to complement my blue Diver 300M.
Every time I see this piece I think, "this looks so much more professional than the Seamaster 300Ms with the Reeses cup Helium escape valves. Love those but when you put these two together, this one stands out as the professional, stealthy, assassin watch. Your color design would be perfect especially if they do a Dark Blue dial version!
It’s most definitely a stealthy assassin. Which is why it’s the perfect bond watch
Nice video on one of my favorite under-the-radar pieces. Enjoyed the mock-up at the end too, and it works with the faux patina or in white - the red pops. Eliminating the “12” is so elemental and has suck a high reward. Would be ideal if Omega offered this in either a dive bezel or a 2nd time zone.
A great video IDGuy, some very interesting thoughts. I really like all the different versions of this watch but somehow the one that currently picks at my want list is the current 233.30.41.21.01.001 version with the sandwich markers. Having the Arabic numerals done the same way would be even better, loosing the 12 to a larger applied Omega (or sandwich maybe?) symbol could work as well. The lollipop second hand looks a tad too Mondaine cast off for me, a small arrow works better in sympathy with the triangular hour markers. Minimal text on the dial is so much better than having an Oscar winners speech plastered on it that as you mention and many other manufacturers could take note of this, less is sometimes more. Your renders are interesting, moving to white markers and numerals works, but I would once again consider loosing the 12 in favour of a larger triangular hour marker or triangular shaped beavers teeth. Having a 12 numeral above the Omega symbol and watch family name is just a tad busy. Just my thoughts anyway.
"Oscar winners speech" Y'know, guess what next week's video is all about? ;) Excellent comments on the design Anthony, and thank you! My main aim with this "modernised" looking 300 was to basically use bits and pieces from Omega's catalogue while adding a few character traits. Agree with you on removing the "12" and the lollipop (the arrowhead would work better if we're talking about the relationship between the batons etc) I just thought it looked so much more charismatic haha! The exercise was a lot of fun though. Currently working through my interpretation of the modern Explorer 2 which should be airing in two weeks. Ah, this hobby of ours...
@@ID-Guy I love your redesign. That would rival a Submariner as a classic but modern diver. Not sure if Omega have room in the catalog for another variant but it sure looks good. I like your version more than the more retro Seamaster 300 because it looks bolder.
Your version looks bloody wonderful! Even though I love my two week old blue 300m, I’d trade it in to buy yours 😀
I would love to see a Seamaster 300 milspec reissue.
Agreed.
A superb timepiece.
Unfortunately - as it would undoubtedly be beyond my comfort zone prize wise - Omega would need to do some sort of 'special edition' to do justice to the piece. Despite my ʟᴏᴠᴇ (␈)of Omega's ltd. releases, that watch deserves one.
@@anthonysmith2982 Limited edition is definitely overdone by Omega and others. It might be a good candidate for a future Bond watch- as long as they didn’t slap 007 branding all over it.
I'll be making a video all about it in collaboration with Chrono24 by the end of next month if all goes to plan. And yes, some modern designs of the 165.024 will have to be included in the mix ;)
@@fjlbanks
Frickin' great idea!
Cmdr. Bond after all!
@@ID-Guy
Mate...ᴡʜᴇɴ you an assistant. 🤷♂️
I love the Seamaster 300 Master coaxial. It is one of my favorite modern divers. For the new version I love what they are going to do with the bracelet. But that conical crown has something soft and peanutbutter cup-ish. Those Panerai sandwich dial style numerals add too much orange lume for my taste and you lose the contrast from the silver Arabic numerals. I find the 2015 version visually more appealing. The render would be a really great variant. But I have to say I love some warm color on the dial of a watch like this.
I d buy your design in a heartbeat
Love the re design, I’d buy it!
Shucks, you're making me all warm and fuzzy inside, JCB ;) Looking forward to our SEAL off on Tuesday, brother!
Trying to decide between the spectre version and a speedmaster as my first omega… any thoughts ?? Honestly don’t want to have to wind the speedmaster everyday so leaning towards this as it is simply stunning in pictures
damn that redesign is gorgeous and now i’m sad I can’t have it because it does not exist
Another great video IDGuy. I am definitely looking forward to seeing the new Seamaster 300 when it’s released. I like so much better than the wave dial Seamaster.
I like the blue Seamaster heritage, but I really dislike blue with faux patina. I think blue and white is a great combo
I'd love to see a sequel to this video, since it's been released now. I've tried it on, and I adore the blue variant!
I bought a smp 300 a few months ago and now I really want to get a 300 heritage and a small seconds aqua terra.
Great photo pairing that is @4:22
Great discussion about this underrated watch. I think you're 're-imagining' is very good. Indeed, does anyone buy modern watches BECAUSE they have fauxtina? Some buy DESPITE, many AVOID! Unnecessarily divisive for a commercial product? I do think that the increased size of sandwich numerals (including '12') and the 'Seamaster 300' text on the original are better. Not sure I'd introduce red either. I'd tone down the triangular taper of the batons to something more subtle (Seiko often do a very subtle taper), I'd also ditch the hectic hour hand, 'lighten' the visual weight of the bezel (slope it? increase silver element, CP Trilogy/original?) and drop size to 40mm. But, this is going to be an exciting launch - there are many very nice things about this watch: quality, movement, bracelet, no date... 1/4 ARABICS!!! Like many watch makers, Omega seem determined perversely to avoid the glaring solution, resisting a bonafide home run classic at every opportunity!
Hi BobI wonder if you can advise me please ? I have my fathers (also Bob) Sea Master 300 1957 (it is the first gen one you show) He purchased it new in 1960 it think.
I still keeps good time and has probably never been serviced. Can parts even be found for this now ? The face is pretty worn and the glass is pretty scratched as dad was a diver. Also the bezel could do with replacing. I don't know if it is valuable to a collector or if it should be restored or just left ?
This watch has huge sentimental value for me of course. But I just do not know where to start. Regards Jason (New Zealand)
Beautiful, I hope that most of what is said is right! However I would wish for more vintage: a 39mm case and a larger metallic ring like the CK2913.
Also I really wish they keep their pricing on check, at more than 5000 euros these would not make sense, they are not Rolex (who overcharges sooo much based only on brand prestige)
you're rendering is spot on
I like your version of the watch
I LOVE the redesign!!!
Thank you, Sir! It was so much fun to put together last week on a blank canvas, you know? This hobby...
I like the idea. Would be perfect if that omega logo in your design is also sandwiched and lumed up
Yeah now with the numerals like that it feels too patina heavy and every time I look at it I can’t help but think why not just get a panerai with a sandwich dial? Which is a real shame because all the other aesthetic touches were major improvements and everything was done almost perfectly
Great history lesson and I retesting design as always IDGuy. I’ll have to say that if there’s one element I’d take from your design, it would be the large Omega logo replacing the “12.” Aside from that, I think the current model is great as is! Well, it could stand to lose about a millimeter more in height, if anything else…
Good job on the video. I see you’ve seen the leaks ;) I own the 2014 model, and I love it.
Thank you for your content. So well done. I like the your ideas of the design. Problem with Omega at times is it goes too far with the faux patina. Your design actually is a true rival for a sub or explorer.
Really interesting assessment. I guess we have to wonder if they are content to let the 300 reign as vintage king vs the clear "modern" SMP? I think it would gain more adherents with the simple white accents; I like the stark contrasts in your render. One thing I would like to see are the lugs getting a bit of a downturn on them. As the model currently stands I simply cannot wear it as the lugs cantilever over my wrist. I realize this is not Omega's concern per se, but the truth is, if I could have worn a 300 I would have it over the 214270 I finally "settled" on. female endlinks would help though... Great episode. I have been looking forward to it since you announced it.
I think that is exactly their approach, Michael. Keep the 300's in the background as the "Tribute" watches and the Pro's in the front as the working watch. Also know what you mean about the straight lugs. It looks like the newer 2021 model is going to be a lot more accommodating in this area (when looking at the side profile from the leaked images) But if given the chance, bringing the size back down to 39mm and a lug length of 49mm's (female endlinks) would fit so many wrists. Lugs really do make or break the presence of the watch on wrist. Always quite a fascinating exercise ;) Thank you as always for the comment, sir! This was great fun to throw a few concepts together
@@ID-Guy did you ever review the 2021 seamaster 300 after the actual reveal? Was it exactly as you thought it would be?
You got some things wrong. Bezel is aluminium an gas faux patina luminous as on the inside. Now it has a sandwich dial, the one before was often mistaken to have one but does not.
I agree with @Underachieving Watch Collector. Let's see something fresh like your design. Love the red Seamaster but not a fan of the lollipop seconds hand 😁. Great video 👏
You know, I was so, so close of keeping the arrow hand instead! The arrow makes more sense (when we look at the sharpness of everything) but something about that round blob on the minute track is so charming... We could also say it's pretty unique to Omega and their past references too, which is fresh ;) Thank you as always for these Mark!
Good video, I have the Seamaster 300 (2015) but I also like your Trilogy 57 Seamaster a lot. I do wonder though why yours has a countdown bezel, any idea?
Excuse me but I have a question for you. In you opinion is better the Seamster Trilogy 1957 (6,5k Euro) or Seamster 300m white (4,2k Euro)? It's my first diver and my second watch... I'm 43 years old. Thanks for you attention ☺️
Love your render with one exception... I'm not a fan of this Spectre lollipop seconds hand... Move the circle inboard a few mm and I'd buy your version.
What do you think of the bronze gold variant? Greg Kissling (Omega) claims it will patina by getting pinker (no vertdegris). The 9K gold should also limit the degree of patination.
Great ideas. Add me to the chorus of fauxtina lume haters. Really, you could make that one change to any of the existing versions and it would plant the hook firmly.
Great video.
The new model is now appearing on the Australian Omega website. Not sure whether that is the case in all other countries yet.
It such a shame that it’s not using ceramic bezel.
The only reason why the Spectre watch had a big Omega logo at 12 o'clock was to make it more visible in the movie. It replacing the 12 numeral is not something Omega should make a habit of.
should be neither faux patina nor white . Applied markers in a material that works tone in tone with the dial.
Brilliant review! Now I want one!
You know a lot about Omega designs. I wonder what your thoughts on the Aqua Terra are. Designwise I think it's a quite peculiar piece, and I wonder if you agree that the design is a bit too daring for an every day watch, which I personally think it is (one of the best even!).
Not the worst faux Patina on it too. Very timeless looking design.