Top 5 PvP Mechanics YOU NEED to Learn | Deepwoken

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  • @SightlessBlade
    @SightlessBlade 9 місяців тому +8

    Thanks spiders this video helped a lot. I’m right now trying to get to top 250 and these tips are really helping. Thank you

  • @Jetseye
    @Jetseye 11 місяців тому +117

    thank you spiders for letting us know the top 5 pvp mechanic you need to learn in deepwoken (guys stop saying im an npc its hurting my feelings)

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +13

      of course 😆

    • @Smoodie.
      @Smoodie. 11 місяців тому +8

      Bot

    • @rexgm2788
      @rexgm2788 11 місяців тому +8

      Npc

    • @ekans9193
      @ekans9193 11 місяців тому +6

      ur not real

    • @RedSerenity_
      @RedSerenity_ 11 місяців тому +19

      @@ekans9193certainly more real than your father 😢😢😢😢

  • @SlashoftheGreatnessOfficial
    @SlashoftheGreatnessOfficial 11 місяців тому +12

    we love the dramaturgy by eve in the bgm

  • @icedherface
    @icedherface 11 місяців тому +13

    M1 baiting is really beneficial for me cuz I always go lightspeed reflexes, especially on greatsword builds I end up parrying their vent so much

  • @detractor7072
    @detractor7072 11 місяців тому +13

    Aint no way we got top 5 videos on deep now

  • @inFayt_Lies
    @inFayt_Lies 11 місяців тому +56

    You’d think that the recent changes to m1 feinting would change anything, but man, feels like it barely affects combat.
    If only feinting had a similar system to parrying where it can detect successful feints and removes endlag entirely as a reward.

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      yeah the recent feinting changes are def not enough to make them viable imo, 0.2s endlag instead of 0.25 is still huge

    • @Phantom-qv8gl
      @Phantom-qv8gl 10 місяців тому

      The parry talent with intelligence that gives ur feints a parry makes it more viable as there is less risk when feinting

    • @isopod12
      @isopod12 10 місяців тому

      @@Phantom-qv8gl you mean lightspeed reflexes? The point of saying feinting is useless is because it’s easy to react to due to the endlag; now softfeint an m1 into strong left, and now you have a hard to react to guardbreak and you can feint strong left on top of that as a mixup.

  • @toNieh
    @toNieh 11 місяців тому +6

    maybe you could've also talked about whiffing m1s, now that parry cooldown is bigger missing some m1s (like turning your camera away from your enemy as you're about to hit them) can throw some people off since your m1 sound will play but they'll miss their parry, effectively working as a feint

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      right! Perhaps I could’ve added that to the feinting mechanic section of the video, but I wanted to keep a balance of how much info I gave about each mechanic. If I make a more dedicated video on feinting, will mention intentionally whiffing m1s for sure

    • @dorshaldoes5055
      @dorshaldoes5055 11 місяців тому +5

      The verse 1 meta…

    • @big_flopa
      @big_flopa 11 місяців тому +1

      @@dorshaldoes5055The counter to auto parry….

  • @crusherdw
    @crusherdw 11 місяців тому +4

    yo good growth on ur channel! keep grinding that content

  • @Nymphha
    @Nymphha 11 місяців тому +4

    you gained 250 subs overnight...
    Goated

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      thank you! Super grateful for the quick growth, I didn’t expect my videos to be received this well this quickly

  • @tspoter
    @tspoter 11 місяців тому +17

    if only m1 feints were like they used to be in verse 1, it was so fast and so much more useful

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +4

      they were so strong back then, personally I prefer mantra feinting being stronger than m1 feinting, but I may be a little biased since I play gale

    • @kirito-78
      @kirito-78 11 місяців тому +3

      No it was UNFAIR.
      I remeber fighting some macroing crypt blade spamming feint m1 every parry trade it wasnt fun at all

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +2

      @@kirito-78 I wasn’t super knowledgeable about PvP when m1 feinting was meta, but I do remember seeing like a demo where the time to react to m1 feinting was super tough and like borderline unreactable, must’ve been crazy to play against

    • @dorshaldoes5055
      @dorshaldoes5055 11 місяців тому +1

      @@kirito-78tbh if they feint a lot they’re kind of easy to read especially if they’re heavy however many heavy users back then actually were really good at reading and planning ahead with their super armor sadly super armor is still kinda buggy and can still get cancelled by “multi hits” such as bleed ticks for some reason

    • @r0lfu_
      @r0lfu_ 11 місяців тому +1

      verse 1 was so unbalanced i remember a compilation of many attacks and mantras having less than 150ms activation time which is by literal means unreactable unless you live next to the servers and you are on drugs

  • @bartekgaw1
    @bartekgaw1 11 місяців тому +11

    3:56 thanks for explaning that exploit 👌

  • @Xiao_____
    @Xiao_____ 11 місяців тому +2

    damn you gained like 300 subs in like a day great video

    • @Xiao_____
      @Xiao_____ 11 місяців тому +2

      the tip about being able to uppercut after parry stun made me actually able to land gale combos

  • @toNieh
    @toNieh 11 місяців тому +4

    goated video, you know what you're talking about

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      thank you! I made sure to practice and improve a lot before I started posting videos so that I could have helpful things to share

    • @toNieh
      @toNieh 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SpidersDW informative and helpful content, keep up the great work my man! I'm sure your channel will boom soon

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      @@toNieh thank you! I appreciate your kind words

  • @hivekin
    @hivekin 11 місяців тому +5

    idol goes hard in the background

  • @Jakunno
    @Jakunno 11 місяців тому +4

    ngl your gale heroblade build looks fun asl you should make a video on it

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      will probably make a vid on it soon, I’m waiting a little to see how impactful the tap dancer changes are on my build first

    • @codeblue6925
      @codeblue6925 11 місяців тому +2

      How are you asking for a reveal on a single attunment hero blade…

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      @@codeblue6925 🤷‍♂️stat allocations and talents can still be unique

  • @kamicarrots
    @kamicarrots 11 місяців тому +3

    Bro I'm not gonna lie they need to add endlag to mantra feinting it's so cheese

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      hope they don’t do this tho ngl, mantra feinting is so smooth rn

  • @cannedtoeknees8125
    @cannedtoeknees8125 8 місяців тому

    yoo this is the best guide ive seen so far
    any tips for players with higher ping? (I have 70 ping in my best servers I don't like ever get these servers but usually around 120+ for other servers 😭)

  • @tzumi30
    @tzumi30 11 місяців тому +2

    Got tired of getting void walkered on so I’m learning pvp

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      nicee, i had a similar type of motivation to that when i was starting to learn PvP too

    • @fitmotheyap
      @fitmotheyap 9 місяців тому

      I fought a voidwalker a few hours ago and won, they are annoying...

  • @yslwhite
    @yslwhite 11 місяців тому +3

    hi can you also explain dodge canceling and when is the best time to use it? i just started playing like a few days ago and i notice everyone in pvp doing it

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      oh yeah for sure, good on you for asking when you're this new to the game. The main problem with rolling normally and not roll cancelling by right clicking in the middle of the roll, is that rolling normally has huge amounts of endlag. What I mean by this, is near the end of the rolling animation, theres a period where you can't do anything, like parrying or attacking etc. This kills the momentum of whatever you may be trying to do, and your opponent can punish you for this endlag by movestacking a mantra (using a mantra in the middle of an m1 so that the mantra comes out very quickly after the m1 i.e. right after your dodge frames are gone and you're in the endlag part of your dodge). So, in order to remove this endlag you *usually* want to dodge cancel instead of just doing a full dodge in PvP. hope this clarifies it for you.

    • @yslwhite
      @yslwhite 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SpidersDW thank you for the reply :) so i should use it when i want to dodge basically? like dodging a mantra except i just cancel it to avoid endlag?

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      @@yslwhite pretty much, you should just default to roll cancelling in PvP and only full roll if you have a specific reason to

  • @il1680
    @il1680 11 місяців тому +3

    W background music

  • @shunsuistan3403
    @shunsuistan3403 11 місяців тому +2

    W eve lofi background music

  • @Lowstride
    @Lowstride 11 місяців тому +1

    this video was enjoyable

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      glad to hear it :D

  • @non_narrator
    @non_narrator 11 місяців тому +1

    This vid has me edged up 🥰🥰

  • @fuegodeepwoken
    @fuegodeepwoken 11 місяців тому +1

    why u put a clip of fighting me in the background

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      💀 idk you are man at least drop your username or guild or something

  • @wolfypvp9092
    @wolfypvp9092 11 місяців тому +1

    Whats your thoughts on curved blade? Hero blade just seems so much better than curved iun every way that I dont even see curved that muchy in 1700+

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      you can def make curved blade work, but most high elo players agree that the scaling and extra stat points from a hero blade due to not having to invest in medium make the heroblade a better choice. all crits are not viable at all really against good players, and the innate aftercut from curved is useless since the aftercut does less damage than inhale's aftercut, and you should be inhaling a lot on gale anyway

    • @wolfypvp9092
      @wolfypvp9092 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SpidersDW sad to see this weapon fall off compared to hero blades make legendaries great again 😭

  • @ogstig
    @ogstig 11 місяців тому +1

    The dramaturgy goes crazy

  • @sploingy
    @sploingy 11 місяців тому +1

    does #4 work if they have aggressive posture talent

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      Afaik aggressive posture doesn’t apply here since you don’t actually get hit while using this

  • @Clumsykae
    @Clumsykae 11 місяців тому

    Yo what happened at 4:56 why are you full hp and almost at sudden death 😂

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      this guy plays super passive and he's a shield user so our matches usually go to sudden death

  • @yharonmybeloved5798
    @yharonmybeloved5798 11 місяців тому +1

    is champion's wilthrow still useable after the change

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      yes, and despite some people say I still think it’s really good to have in your kit. in current meta high posture f holders are so cancer to play against, without champions it’s 🪦

    • @yharonmybeloved5798
      @yharonmybeloved5798 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SpidersDW I mean you can always pick strong left

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      @@yharonmybeloved5798 ya strong left is underrated for non strength builds. still does hella posture damage even at low level

  • @arrowthy
    @arrowthy 11 місяців тому +1

    so is m1 mantra good or bad?

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      if you mean using hitstun it's very good

  • @Levi-kl6ro
    @Levi-kl6ro 11 місяців тому +1

    using an aerial after getting parried still has a delay? you are just spacing and they can still swing first

    • @fp-individual71
      @fp-individual71 11 місяців тому +5

      theyre supposed to swing while youre backing up so you dont take damage during your aerial

    • @Levi-kl6ro
      @Levi-kl6ro 11 місяців тому

      @@fp-individual71 yea thats what spacing is

  • @zmuknukz5051
    @zmuknukz5051 11 місяців тому +1

    ngl this macro thing they added is really messing up the combat for me, what should i do to solve it?

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      im not sure, could you be more specific about how it is messing up combat for you?

    • @zmuknukz5051
      @zmuknukz5051 11 місяців тому

      @@SpidersDW say i use rising shadow while m1ing right and i wanna wait for them to land so i can crit or whatever, sometimes ill use a mantra and it'll do an m1 right after i do it which can mess up my combos

    • @kasatero
      @kasatero 10 місяців тому

      @@zmuknukz5051 ik this is 3 weeks ago but i dont know if you know they added a new setting in options called input buffering which you could disable and it fixes it

  • @genVwithaswitch
    @genVwithaswitch 9 місяців тому

    the eve lofi music goes HARd

  • @im.shivering
    @im.shivering 7 місяців тому

    Is it just me or is deepwoken too fast paced to think about a plan of what im going to feint😭😊

  • @Struggler3831
    @Struggler3831 11 місяців тому +3

    You said to avoid m1 feinting because of endlag, but what if we’re using lightspeed reflexes?

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +3

      I was more so talking about m1 feinting as a mixup, but you’re right, using lightspeed reflexes can be a good use of m1 feinting

    • @Champ_7298
      @Champ_7298 11 місяців тому +2

      @@SpidersDW if your parry is on cd can you still parry with lightspeed reflexes?

    • @Struggler3831
      @Struggler3831 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Champ_7298 yeah

    • @tamirsins
      @tamirsins 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Champ_7298yes, though it grants no auto parry frames from successful parries
      Though it does reset your parry cool down right afterwards

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +2

      @@Champ_7298 yep, I’ve heard of some top players actually using this effectively when they’re parry is on cd. usually after being hit by showstopper

  • @calammitty
    @calammitty 11 місяців тому +1

    Bless up

  • @martinjelolorenzo8275
    @martinjelolorenzo8275 11 місяців тому +2

    very good undderated deepwoken ytber ngl

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      appreciate it, I’m glad you liked the video

  • @sadidk
    @sadidk 11 місяців тому +2

    Very good vido

  • @jayology23
    @jayology23 11 місяців тому +3

    #1 BOOSTING RAAAAAH WHERE MY BOOSTERS AT?????

  • @GRIFFDANSE
    @GRIFFDANSE 11 місяців тому +1

    spiders... you should do an irl fight club and then we can see whos really the best!!!! just like deepwoken!

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      just like deepwoken !!

  • @stax-onkeys
    @stax-onkeys 2 місяці тому

    I did a teleport but i dont have any moves

  • @itzmisf1t470
    @itzmisf1t470 11 місяців тому +1

    I like most of these but I refuse to animation mask, that's some fatherless activity. Same thing with these inf combo builds people make with massive aoe, I'd rather lose then become that fatherless

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      atp I'd just consider it a part of the game ngl, it's unlikely the devs are going to completely fix animation masking soon

    • @itzmisf1t470
      @itzmisf1t470 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SpidersDW that's a good point, hopefully I won't have to start using it

  • @sayko9303
    @sayko9303 11 місяців тому +1

    Do more of these videos

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      Yup that’s the plan, if these types ofvideos continue to do well then I’ll make more of them

  • @pancakemaster4182
    @pancakemaster4182 11 місяців тому +1

    You forgot running a crazy build which can drop you 100-0 in one combo! Because people only care bout winning it's build Vs build rn so why even make a vid like this.

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      I’m telling you, this is the wrong mindset to have. There’s a reason that not everybody who runs a cheese build is top 250, and a reason why none of the comp PvP UA-camrs run a typical cheese build. That’s because fights are NOT build vs build, and skill prevails

  • @kromer806
    @kromer806 5 місяців тому

    I'm not making it out of 800 Elo man 💀

  • @odvabacon
    @odvabacon 2 місяці тому

    that useful

  • @chnjon6602
    @chnjon6602 11 місяців тому +8

    Step #6: Get a better pc!

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому +1

      honestly id say as long as you're not lagging and getting consistent 60+ fps you'll most likely be fine. I actually don't really know if having higher than 60fps is important since that's the limit on my monitor, so you'd have to ask someone else.

    • @fitmotheyap
      @fitmotheyap 9 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@SpidersDW it's pretty good, I have played on both 60(my pc) and 240(friend), the game just feels smoother, also it's easier to see animations, nothing more than that
      That and well for some reason network requests are tied to fps so a tiny advantage there compared to having low fps

  • @far.
    @far. 11 місяців тому +2

    dramaturgy

  • @jinkinamura8430
    @jinkinamura8430 11 місяців тому +1

    no

    • @SpidersDW
      @SpidersDW  11 місяців тому

      these are good tips 🙏

  • @lucas_daniel1
    @lucas_daniel1 11 місяців тому +1

    Dramaturgy

  • @kamadothaz
    @kamadothaz 11 місяців тому +2

    hop off gale before u talk

  • @PainxSorrow
    @PainxSorrow 7 місяців тому

    ww vid

  • @vesperian_
    @vesperian_ 11 місяців тому +2

    should i sub? nah

    • @tspoter
      @tspoter 11 місяців тому +9

      should we care? nah

    • @shingiaxiom6650
      @shingiaxiom6650 11 місяців тому +4

      did anyone ask? nah

    • @vesperian_
      @vesperian_ 11 місяців тому

      @@shingiaxiom6650 who tf r u with your goofy avatar

    • @salima-w3690
      @salima-w3690 10 місяців тому

      @@vesperian_ik yo edgy goku black ass is not talking 😅

  • @Auctvix7801
    @Auctvix7801 11 місяців тому +3

    dramaturgy