Actually is like a false definition, i mean the world he describe wasn't in any means a democratic one. But the worlds before he says "democracy" oh God this was very democratic.
@@ZoroHayoung yes and no. The true definition of democracy is that the leaders respond to the will of the people. However what Trumbo was trying to convey here is that America twisted the definition to use it as an excuse to go to war. When in essence they were really just sinister old men and women sending the youth to die so they can have more space. That said Dalton Trumbo is a known communist (one of the few I do respect but still...), so take his views with a grain of salt. He did manage to portray the horrrors of war spectacularly and as a result gave Metallica their first and most famous music video.
A great man and a patriot … anyone who’s read the book or saw the movie Johnny Got His Gun had the pin with the Peace Sign on their jackets. Especially if you just registered 1A for the Nam draft!
Thank you Metallica for introducing me to this movie. Thank you Donald Sutherland for making it a great story on the screen. The lessons of this story are poignant and so important to learn in youth.
Democracy: the 51% get to do whatever the fuck they want to the 49%. A constitutional republic may not be perfect, but it's the best thing that our species has ever devised so far. It is unfortunate that a two party system has been running against the people year after year. And the people root and cheer for megalomaniacs as if they were players on their favorite football team.
It comes down to whoever the biggest bully on the block is will try to take whatever the smaller guy that poses no threat possesses. Peaceful civilizations like the Etruscans have always been conquered. The United States used to keep a small military mainly to protect it's borders and the idea was to rely on volunteers during any crisis built around a core of well trained officers and regulars. God warned Israel long ago when they insisted on having a king basically telling them that government will take your best men and money and use various means to justify it's existence-like always keeping us in perpetual fear of something that really isn't threatening.
Yet, our military is entirely comprised of volunteers. Think about it, men and women volunteering to kill and be killed. No law or fear of reprisal willingly doing it instead
its an Except from the book though i believe a book that was written in 1939 and published in september of that year and was about World war one a war where the armies where conscripted as they would be in the second world war additionally the Film was only released 6 years after the US had come out from Vietnam after 4 years after that war ended a war that in the popular contentiousness is linked to the draft and to the draft riots like Kent State . a little context goes a long way i would say
@@LAVIN20 Very true but with a draft, at least we might have more resistance to our government declaring war. Though, of course, there will always be rich parents of a rich kid claiming some ailment or exception.
@@LAVIN20 That is the most asinine explanation of volunteers I've ever heard. No soldier WANTS to kill. Soldiers want to DEFEND. What you're describing are murderers & psychopaths... who are almost exclusively civilians (because militaries screen them out).
Nice speech and all but it doesn’t solve the problem. It just means the old fight the wars and not the young. Substituting one generation for another doesn’t stop the wars.
Dalton Trumbo was a Marxist and he wrote this anti-war classic while Britian and Poland were fighting for their lives and shortly before the Soviet Union was invaded. Literally overnight in June 1941 Marxist pacifists became fierce hawks only to save Stalin. Of course, the moment Stalin was safe in May 1945 they went back to being "pacifists". Trumbo who was later blacklisted in the 1950's actually named names first in 1942 by turning in principled pacifists of the left and right to the FBI after they requested his novel and his support. He went from the horror and torment of this novel to writing the romantic comedy film "A Guy Named Joe" about an airman who was jaunty, cocky and confident in death. In the war years he did his best to have young men join up and fight to save Stalin. Trumbo was a genius, but his politics was dishonest and deceptive. He had contempt for democracy and favored a Communist dictatorship. By the 1960's and 70's the oddball old man was free to seduce a new and deeply credulous generation.
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Rest in Peace, dear sir 🥀
RIP
It's so hard to read from a book like that and make it sound as if it is your own truth. Talented man.
Donald's interpretation was always impeccable. May the good lord guide your way to Heaven man
God speed, Donald Sutherland. One of the best thespians of all time has gone home.
Donald Sutherland is the man and 1 of the most underrated actors of all time.
I agree with you on that
Keefer is awesome in Dark City.
RIP
May he RIP. Phenomenal actor!
Donald Sutherland. One of the most interesting, amazing and brilliant interpreters of the human language.
I guess you mean 'the English language.'
This movie is so Metal.
Boy... this really wrecks my heart...
watch the movie if you haven't already. It is so heavy.
@@jutjub22 and then read the book! I read it when I was 14 and nothing has ever left such an imprint.
@@Bernacide I am not sure if I want to go through all of that again :). I will see.
@@jutjub22 I understand 110%!
A testament to Trumbo's gift as a writer!
He’s always been amazing. Humble and brilliant.😎
the best democracity definicion i have ever heard
Actually is like a false definition, i mean the world he describe wasn't in any means a democratic one. But the worlds before he says "democracy" oh God this was very democratic.
More like a definition of patriotism.
@@Pados_music Here in the U.S., propaganda has conflated democracy and patriotism in the most sinister way possible.
@@ZoroHayoung yes and no. The true definition of democracy is that the leaders respond to the will of the people. However what Trumbo was trying to convey here is that America twisted the definition to use it as an excuse to go to war. When in essence they were really just sinister old men and women sending the youth to die so they can have more space. That said Dalton Trumbo is a known communist (one of the few I do respect but still...), so take his views with a grain of salt. He did manage to portray the horrrors of war spectacularly and as a result gave Metallica their first and most famous music video.
Donald Sutherland one of the best actors , persons this country have in the history god bless him and all his family
He is Canadian
Memorial Day is every day.
Academy, get your shit together and give this man, one of our finest living actors, an honorary Oscar already!
The Academy will wait for him to die before giving it to him to farm brownie points.
This is PHENOMENAL!!! So appropriate, right now especially!
No More Brother Wars.
A great man and a patriot … anyone who’s read the book or saw the movie Johnny Got His Gun had the pin with the Peace Sign on their jackets. Especially if you just registered 1A for the Nam draft!
These words should be shared with every solider on both sides of any war, starting in the Ukraine
Make sure Putin sees it (he’d just laugh at it anyways)
🙏
RIP 😢
Why can I not stop listening to this?
"The future....is ended by a long, looooong sleep" - Morrissey
Never underestimate President Snow.
Donald Sutherland 2020
1935-2024 🎇
So moving to her the book talk in the last chapter, this was really good
When people ask which political party I am into
Thank you Metallica for introducing me to this movie. Thank you Donald Sutherland for making it a great story on the screen. The lessons of this story are poignant and so important to learn in youth.
That is so true to life.
Wow!
Democracy: the 51% get to do whatever the fuck they want to the 49%.
A constitutional republic may not be perfect, but it's the best thing that our species has ever devised so far.
It is unfortunate that a two party system has been running against the people year after year. And the people root and cheer for megalomaniacs as if they were players on their favorite football team.
Anyone watching in 2024? Sounds a lot like today
Sounds a lot like the past, present and future.
We need a few more Donald Sutherlands….okay,a lot more!🤔
Wow!!
this is so fitting for these times - just say no!
Rest in peace Conleth hill
This speech rivals Charlie Chaplin's speech in The Great Dictator.
WOW!
Thanks president Snow
Was Quincy Jones inspired by "Johnny Got his Gun" when he wrote USA for Africa's "We are the World?"
Tell it as it is odd ball speak the truth
Alanis Morissette and Donald Sutherland. The only Canadians that played God and Jesus.
The capacity of planning ahead, combined with a natural egoism is what rots us as a species. In other words: corruption and propaganda.
At the end of the documentary F.T.A. Donald Sutherland performed a monologue from this novel.
Yes he did.
It comes down to whoever the biggest bully on the block is will try to take whatever the smaller guy that poses no threat possesses. Peaceful civilizations like the Etruscans have always been conquered. The United States used to keep a small military mainly to protect it's borders and the idea was to rely on volunteers during any crisis built around a core of well trained officers and regulars. God warned Israel long ago when they insisted on having a king basically telling them that government will take your best men and money and use various means to justify it's existence-like always keeping us in perpetual fear of something that really isn't threatening.
I saw the thumbnail and I was like, "That's Jesus!"
Ds is insane one of my favorite portrayals of Jesus i also like American gods
Seeing a clean-shaven Donald Southerland was like a slap in the face. A very light slap, playful...maybe even pleasant. But still a slap.
amen
Does he read the whole book?
It’s strange having President Snow say that.
Ahh, the sound of one hand clapping...
Anyone know which part of the book this is from?
The very end.
His dad looks like Marshall from HIMYM
According to this movie, Jesus was a Canadian.
According to Dogma, so is God.
Well, it makes sense doesn't it? Canadians are forgiving.
@@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns But they don't forget.
Yet, our military is entirely comprised of volunteers. Think about it, men and women volunteering to kill and be killed. No law or fear of reprisal willingly doing it instead
its an Except from the book though i believe a book that was written in 1939 and published in september of that year and was about World war one a war where the armies where conscripted as they would be in the second world war additionally the Film was only released 6 years after the US had come out from Vietnam after 4 years after that war ended a war that in the popular contentiousness is linked to the draft and to the draft riots like Kent State . a little context goes a long way i would say
better volunteers than draftees.
@@plasticweapon draftees gets you a percentage of thinkers, objectors.
Volunteers gets you poor people in need or sociopathic tendencies
@@LAVIN20 Very true but with a draft, at least we might have more resistance to our government declaring war. Though, of course, there will always be rich parents of a rich kid claiming some ailment or exception.
@@LAVIN20 That is the most asinine explanation of volunteers I've ever heard.
No soldier WANTS to kill. Soldiers want to DEFEND.
What you're describing are murderers & psychopaths... who are almost exclusively civilians (because militaries screen them out).
Kinda weird hearing this sentiment from President Coriolanus Snow.
i think bush disk like this video,
Him and all the other war profiteers, the fat shining swine...
But you have to be willing to die to preserve and defend peace and tranquility, otherwise you soon lose both.
.Killing is not Demokratie?
Liberal Democracy - the illusion of Democracy and any illusion required to maintain the greater illusion.
Nice speech and all but it doesn’t solve the problem. It just means the old fight the wars and not the young. Substituting one generation for another doesn’t stop the wars.
bezirgan
This makes me extremely angry🧐
Dalton Trumbo was a Marxist and he wrote this anti-war classic while Britian and Poland were fighting for their lives and shortly before the Soviet Union was invaded. Literally overnight in June 1941 Marxist pacifists became fierce hawks only to save Stalin. Of course, the moment Stalin was safe in May 1945 they went back to being "pacifists". Trumbo who was later blacklisted in the 1950's actually named names first in 1942 by turning in principled pacifists of the left and right to the FBI after they requested his novel and his support. He went from the horror and torment of this novel to writing the romantic comedy film "A Guy Named Joe" about an airman who was jaunty, cocky and confident in death. In the war years he did his best to have young men join up and fight to save Stalin. Trumbo was a genius, but his politics was dishonest and deceptive. He had contempt for democracy and favored a Communist dictatorship. By the 1960's and 70's the oddball old man was free to seduce a new and deeply credulous generation.
Kinda like today’s Joe Biden and his buddy Obama and the deep state!
Another lost generation
Is this Donald Sutherland? Really looks like him.
xSpirit That's what I thought.