Reducing Rollover in 15 Passenger Vans
Вставка
- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- There is documented proof that the 15 passenger van can be one of the most dangerous vehicles on the road today in terms of rollover. Take a closer look at the 15 passenger van and see how Roadmaster's Active Suspension significantly enhances the safety of the vehicle. www.summitracin...
![[UA] NAVI vs MOUZ | BO5 | IEM Rio 2024](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/CMBYk0cbGoA/mqdefault.jpg)
I drove a 1998 15 Passenger van for our church many times filled with primarily either kids or teens. I had no special license or anything. I simply looked at the vehicle and concluded without even really thinking about it that it can't be driven like a sports car. I mean Duh!! I quickly got a feel for the van and simply didn't dare take any unnecessary maneuvers with it. Slow down, take your time and be careful with them and you'll be fine. Keep your passengers safe. If you have to swerve that quickly out of the way as in the video then your not being vigilant enough as a driver or keeping a good stopping distance. You can avoid most of those sudden situations if you remain vigilant and always consider the worst thing that could possibly happen under any given driving situation.
Mr. Extreme -Agreed. I drove one of these on a college trip to DC when one of the teachers got sick and couldn't attend. Frankly the initial thought of driving something this big scared me. It wouldn't brake as fast as my car, certainly wouldn't corner in a pinch. I realized that the only way I could handle this massive vehicle was to SLOW THE HECK DOWN AND GIVE PROPER BRAKING DISTANCE.
Fortunately, no college students were harmed in the making of this post.
+Mr. Extreme Totally agreed loaded van / suv / truck is not a sedan it could weight 4+ tons and should not be driven as sport car. Each person is about 100 kilograms so 15 people make 1500kg = ~1.5 tons with seats and their luggage load could be about ~2+ tons to the car that already weight ~2 tons = 4+ tons total weight.
This suspension they offer does not chance center of gravity either, so i'd like to know what it does exactly however, this video gives no clue on how this "roadmaster" suspension operates what it actually does versus standard one.
Could be marketing trick like in "as seen on tv" they put something higher in the van to raise center of gravity and make to make video without it look worse, at best it adds 10% improvement.
The problem doesn't present itself in everyday driving. It becomes a problem when taking evasive maneuvers to avoid a crash. If you've ever had an old woman look you in the eye from a dead stop in a parking lot pull directly in front of you, it's comforting to know you can go to the left and right again without going rubber side up. Especially when hitting that old woman in the door handle is sure to kill her.
Mr. Extreme I always try to expect the unexpected but my buddies end up hitting me in the balls with out me even expecting it 😒
And if you get into a situation where you think your going to crash into the vehicle or whatever but front of you. Don't swerve. Just stop to the best of the vehicles ability and take it head on. It's alot less likely you will die in a head on collision in one of these as opposed to a high speed rollover. And just saying swerving to avoid stuff is a bad idea anyway. You could easily hit another car driving to the side of you and cause another accident or into head on traffic, which in smaller cars is worse for you. For an example if someone fly's in front of you and brake checks you, don't swerve into the other lane to get hit and be at fault for a different accidents. Run straight into that asshole who wants you to crash. A dashcam is a good idea to prove you weren't at fault. Or say someone hair darts into your lane and your space. Don't freak out and tank your wheel around, let that idiot pit themselves on you or hit the side of your car. Keep your car stable. Don't let's some asshat push you around to the point that you cause a crash with another person. Now if there's a semi truck at a dead stop.. yeah swerve you might die but you should see a semi stopped up ahead
“The vehicle is dangerously out of control!” Nicee being dramatic should increase sales. 😂
When I was freaking crazy teenager I remember making donuts on wet asphalt in a 1985 Club Wagon XLT equipped with 351W 4bbls!!! Love those memories...25 years after and that awesome van is still with my family!! If you take good care of them and don't try to give it the drifting treatment....you will be fine!
1 second in i pause to laugh at him literally sitting next to a fireplace to have a talk with us
My parents had a 15 passenger Dodge Maxivan back in 1980, it was a 1977 and was 3 years old when they bought it. My parents never once had any problems driving it because my parents are both great drivers and were careful driving that big van.
Is your name RAYMOND?Rainman?
You are lucky you were never injured or killed in that thing.
In an emergency situation where you had no choice but to swerve to avoid an object, good luck trying not to flip the van.
just in stall the outriggers instead, and you're go to go.
ZEZERBING
yo man, you just call me an OUT RIGGER? Dont make me call Albert Sharpman, my Jewish lawyer.
Mr Dave 4th
You, sir have saved hundreds of cancelled tours.... and lives.
Forget the risk of rollover, look at that roof strength! I'd much rather spend that money to put a roll cage in one of these, something tells me Roadmaster wouldn't help if I got T-Boned.
All the Ford E350 needs for stability is a few more inches on the rear axle which is shorter than the front for no apparent reason.
I'd like to try some offset rims on a van so that the wheels stick out farther. Should help with stability
I own a 2006 e350 it is not a sports car people it's big and heavy and designed for a purpose. stay straight and apply the brakes
First thing to do tomorrow morning: Go out to the van with a good tire pressure gauge, and check the pressures cold, before you even turn on the engine. Next, purchase the heaviest duty compact tire inflator pump you can find, one that can be plugged into the cigarette lighter or 12V accessory outlet.
Pump up those tires, and set them as close as possible to the pressures specified on the drivers or whichever door pillar that sticker is affixed to.
Get used to how the van handles with those pressures, and then how it feels at at least half occupancy, with at least half a tank of gas in it. Keep that pump somewhere in the van, so it's there when you need it. I'm sure there's a cubby hole or space under the seats where it can be stowed.
Typical large van cold tire pressures range from 50-55psi up front, and 75-80psi in back. But: CHECK THE DOOR PILLAR PLACARD or owners manual for the pressures specific to your van, and maintain those pressures at least monthly, year-round.
Getting the tires right is the single biggest step to van safetly, that, and just slowing down a little, even 5mph here and there.
I'll tell you what these vans REALLY need. Sure these may be useful. But with Airbags all inside (side curitain of course) , A really strong roll cage, pillars, etc, and Roll stability control can really maximize the safety. And even have an extended axle ratio as well to great reduce rollover. But if it does, bam. Strong rollover cage, and good side curtain airbags all inside to protect the passengers.
Excellent product. Add some Transforce 10ply commercial tires and Bilstein B6 HD shocks to the setup and it's super solid
For free u could just drive it like a top heavy van. Reduce your speed....
adam25000 Jeep stuff yeah don't swerve. More than likely you will end up ok if you just slow down ro the best of your ability. Even if it means a frontal collision.( Dashcam would help with the confidence to prove you we're not at fault) really swerving isn't q good thing no matter what kind of car your driving. Especially if it means swerving into an opposing lane of traffic. Seen so many videos of people swerving to avoid a brake check or another accident and run head on into another car or into the wall, essentially screwing themselves and putting them at fault for a separate accident
Or to avoid some asshole suddenly darting int front of them
Keep all four tires @80psi for the best ride e350 are hogs.
I agree
@@robrico6685 Hogs? What do you mean?
Least convincing sales pitch I've seen. First, you're a doctor. Good for you. You have been trained to fix my heart, not understand chassis dynamics. I'd bet you can't change a tie rod end. Second, the 52MPH test, pause @ 4:39 - the driver has already begun the countersteer before the rear end has broke loose - this throws the center of gravity rearward, inducing oversteer / unstable condition. Now pause @ 4:41 - driver has already straightened the wheels, not even driving towards the course
When would you need to preform a fishhook in one of these vans in the real world? This is kind of silly XD
Hahahaha
U turn mabey turning round on highway .than again youd probably slow down more than 25 mph.
We have a 2004 Chevy Express 3500. It's a LOT more stable than people think. I can't speak for the others. I've driven it with 2300 lbs in it, and it was totally stable. Not to mention, the brakes are HUGE.
I used to autocross my service van and could have really used these. Given, I probably shouldn’t have been doing it in residential areas, but those garbage cans I hit held up well.
Have this on the 2013 e350 15 passenger, it does work
Play the intro without sound and let your imagination do the work.
"Hello. Welcome to Rage-aholics. Today we will learn how to channel your anger into constructive outlets. Assume the lotus position... good."
What would be the price and installation of this product??
There are a variety of suspension devices that claim to help control rollover and or loss of control. But front and rear sway bars can do the same thing. Also remember this vehicle is a truck not a sports car, slowing down and giving yourself time/space to manuver reduce surprises. Tyre pressures should be at the tyre's sidewall specification, factory recomended tyre pressure is for ride comfort, not payload capacity and safe handling.
Now, pause @ 5:00 -the driver eases into the turn, keeping weight transfer minimal and sets himself up for the next turn. 5:02 - he waits for the body roll to stabilize before turning the wheels, creating a predicatable smooth flowing curve. Late 5:03 you can see this again, as the driver still has the wheels turned left as enters the exiting straight away (why didn't he do that before?) and waits until the body roll has reached it's exteme.A 12 year old that'sgood @ GranTurismo could fake it
Use no-seats E350 Club Wgn. Did a deer avoidance maneuver similar to this test starting at 70mph (limit). Was about 3 seconds from hitting 2 deer so had to initiate first turn harder than test to miss them, then slid/overcorrected to avoid center ditch then swung/slid rear into the right guard rail at about 35 degree angle on the 2nd correction. Sliding the beast sideways, despite good tires & dry pavement was an experience. now 0/4 deer hits not including one that jumped hi enough to clr van
If they fix this problem the movie Inception would not have its awesome scenes
I’m 17 went 75mph and drifted completely side ways on a turn we call dead mans curve works great
Is it in Cleveland
@@brunowskijr no Charlotte got pulled over 100 in 50 as well I was in high school I’m 19 now sold it
Who thought it was a good idea to let a standard driver's license cover vehicles as large as this? (And even larger, such as moving vans and RV's)
Because no one is complaining that accidents are common enough to constitute a driver's license restriction.
Samniss Arandeen There are people who drive Class A RV's that are as large as a bus. No special license needed in most states. If your home state doesn't require a special license, then it doesn't matter if you drive through a state that does.
This is america no we don't need more restrictions and laws
All this is is stiffer suspension.
That drivers side rear tire is taking on a HUGE load- they need to test what would happen if and when there is a blow-out at a high speed with and without roadmaster.
It would also help if people not only knew how to drive them correctly, but how to LOAD them correctly.
if they were so unsafe they wouldnt sell and they wouldnt be one of the most seen vehicles on the road
Well either that or a advanced adaptive suspension that inhibits the body from swaying for example, making a right turn so you revert the body roll from the left to the center or lean in the right at a right turn, basically a sportyish suspension to keep grip and control full active throughout the turn(s).
I drive a Chevy extended length van for work as a fleet vehicle. It's fine. I also couldn't help but to notice the still pics they showed of accidents , a lot of em had snow...hrmmm. Interesting. Me thinks perhaps someone needs to start blaming bad drivers.
Is this still on sale I want to buy it
i hope ford,chevy and dodge see this
Same cinematic stunt is done in the fish hook. 5:26 watch him turn left, let the body roll, and CRANK the wheel to the right. Hes using the roll centers centrifical force to sway the van. 5:42 he lets the body settle down before smoothly turning into the right turn. Second run isnt as drastic, but still evident - one difference though. Without roadmaster, he still cranks the wheel, but he decelerates (transfers weight off rear wheels makes understeer). With road master, he maintains throttle.
You know what they say, if you’re not out of control, you’re not in control
How much will the insurance company reduce our rates with one of these installed? I'm now seriously considering safety if I am traveling with 14 of my family members in the car, I must have it not crash... I don't want to have it crash and have medical bills be paid for... I want to not crash... I'm thinking about collision detection and other advanced features may allow less expensive insurance.... may want this feature too... but I think many have stability control now too.
Soo... This is basicly a coil spring fittet onto leaf spring simply stiffening rear suspension... So we could get exactly same result by installing stiffer leaf springs...
Is this still on sale I want to buy ut
Sorry but I still want the E-Series
can a car wheel lift like that if it's taking a high speed bend?
stock vehicle doesn't seem all that bad unless you do some stupid shit with it and roll it over. With a vehicle that big, you just ram things. Don't do stupid shit with the steering wheel.
It's easy to say that, but the fact is that no one plans to do stupid shit with it, it just happens. Whenever faced with a sudden or emergency situation our natural reaction is to either slam on the brakes, or swerve out of the way. That's when bad things happen.
You are right on man. When driving a big vehicle, u need to have the mind set that just about everything that runs or moves out in front of you needs to be hit straight on. Let the vehicle, seat belts, and air bags do their job.
supreme2005 mindset can overcome "natural reaction".
Also add the fact that the roof is too weak.
America and their leafsprings...
+eggbirdtherooster Europe can get away with teeny tiny coil springs because their trucks and cars are so tiny and made from plastic and tinfoil.
Our Sprinters are huge compared to these little US vans
But our American vans don't cost an arm and a leg to maintain, last longer, and work harder than those Sprinter vans. I'd say that's a pretty good balance. I drive a Chevy Express for work everyday. Good van.
l337pwnage wich cars and trucks do you mean??
Omar Stephenson and you can see that on the interior.. its stoneage compare to European vans. And I bet its quitte thirsty as well? And a TDI is even faster and handles a lot better than that GM thing..? 😏
@ilshwak Well the double lane change could happen if there is a slow or stopped car in your lane and you don't see it in time, so you swerve, only to find out that there's another in that lane so you have to swerve back. Plus, you probably travel on the highway where speeds are at 65+ mph
most driving is done on intestate highways. which means the speeds of 60-75 mph.
WHY isnt tests are done at those speeds?
The same reason that crash tests aren't done at 75 miles an hour because everything would fail in this s*** e-konomy
Economy spelled that way on purpose. This Amerikkan E-konomy
they need to make them lower and wider with that suspension installed
5:48 HEY KIDS! learn THIS! *SCREECH* *van flips over*
I've heard that if u go on 2 weels turn the weel the way the car is going that will also keep u from. Rolling over
Bingo baby. You heard right
You think that a vehicle of that size would have thicker and stronger roof pillars. And I agree with many of you. They should add more speed and why not remove those bars while they're at it?.
Well said. Thank you. That isn't to say that I wouldn't put these on my van. But they use the most unstable model (Ford E-Series). That isn't really a fair representation of the models out there.
just lower the van. So that isn't so much gap between the wheel and the arch
crazy the rollover risk on these vans
Dr. Jerry Punch of ESPN doing this safety video? Small world.
people need to learn how to drive them simple as that
why not install stability control?
why not convert the vans to dual rear wheels???
Suburban is the 2nd most top heavy roll over vehicle.
I seems that roadmaster decreases your speed to prevent rolling over? The vehicles obviously look slower with the road master.
Thank you. I even measured so
Noted seconds
You're right
If people wore their seatbelts like they’re supposed to a lot more would still be alive
I think i've seen similar things for trucks years ago to reduce sway when pulling a trailor
and im just over here with a 15 foot canoe strapped to the top of mine haha
poor sidewall lol
The pictures are tragic. But is it really the vehicle's fault? Or is it the driver's fault? It is important to learn how to drive a vehicle of this size and weight. Never drive faster than the vehicle's ability to safely manoeuvre. It's easier to perform emergency lane change at 40mph than it is to perform that same lane change at 50mph.
Im sorry but this is a case of poor driver skill. Most of these vans (the Dodge being discontinued) now have Stability control. The Ford is being replaced with a new European design. Regardless, extra driver skill is required to drive these vehicles whether they are filled or not. Most people do not posses an understanding of vehicle dynamics to operate these safely. Normally these kind of vehicles will understeer. Snap oversteer can occur when they are loaded with passengers. Proper loading of these vehicles is also a key factor in its stability which nobody seems to know. Suspension upgrades are good and all but its still the driver that controls the vehicle. Think of the older Ford Explorers. They roll over when a tire is blown...that was proven to be inaccurate. It was driver error in regaining control that caused the roll over. Please leave the driving of large vehicles to us who know how to drive them.
Yes. I have driven so many of these 12 & 15 passenger vans & I still do daily. Honestly they handle great & im almost more comfortable driving my van then most vehicles. I agree it’s about the driver. Im not going to fishhook a 6000 + pound vehicle.
chance greer I drive an e350 work van, the shorter body style, I also feel more comfortable in tis than I do in regular cars. I can see so much more in front of me because of how high up I am, it is windowless in the back and has a wall between front and back, so rear visibility is limited to what I can see out of my window, but because of this the mirrors are designed to let me see everything behind and to the side of me, shirt of a car being literally right on my ass. But they aren't my concern lol
stability control fixes all of this, and from what it looks like this doesn't stop the roll over ability of loss of control, stability control keep the car from lifting all the tires
@adamslurch71 Put stiffer springs on it and it will roll harder roll bars and stability control is the fix. I don't know where you get your information but for my opinion its wrong.
Dr. Cherry Punch?
Dr. Jerry Punch
exactly. if vans were so unsafe as these people make them think they wouldnt sell them.
people need to drive them like a van not like a car
Just make all vans with a better stock suspension and the problem is solved!!!!
They need Roll stability control
You'd be surprised how much it actually works.
True. But still accidents can occur to anyone, for example if they have to swerve to avoid an obstacle.
I see your point, and I believe it. But it still wouldn't hurt to have a few mods just in case y'know? But I do agree, a lot of it comes from people being stupid drivers.
See, lots of the time, if you don't speed you can prevent that roll over in the van. If you take GM's Wheel base, and the road master suspension ,and make the van a bit wider, there you go! Fixed!
@adamslurch71 that will just make the van ride harder stability control is the answer
I think all vans made today have suspension designed this way to reduce rollovers as a rule don't they?
I don't think so. I haven't seen any evidence of that yet.
I wish... I work RAS, I would love if all leaf spring vehicles required my product $$$$$
Joshua Johnson
modern vans are being produced that are not as tall, have wider stance, hold more candy and camouflage into the scene "down by the river"
even uhaul is updating their fleet.
The Ford Transit does by don't know about the others
imma install this in my expedition
yikes! my dad owns a 01 e350 extended commercial cargo van and he always has it loaded with boxes in the back when he goes to work.
So it just makes it under-steer more? There we go.
Still good video in 2019 😀....😇#GOODSAMCLUB😇
Then turn on curves slowly
Glad i got it for my van
The ford Econoline still doesn't have side airbags standard let alone optional.
ok but why the hell would anybody be driving a van full of people like THAT. drive safely, dont be an idiot, problem solved...
Tho van are light if you are taken turn at 60kms or more then you should not be drive tho kind of van i drove that before i had no problems i take the turn at 35kms and its fine
look at 4:26 and time both runs you will see the roadmaster van is going slower taking more time. the narator is trying to bait you into buying the product, he is a roadmaster baiter
AdirondackNY boo hiss
You're right. He's a Roadmaster Bator..
@corvetteboy10 He told how dangerous vans are in rollovers.
Literally just soft shocks
They need to add flamethrowers
*LET ME SHARE THE AFFORDABLE DIY FIXES - EQUIPMENT ADDITIONS I CHOSE AFTER RESEARCHING TO SOLVE THIS ROLL OVER CONCERN ON MY VAN ONCE AND FORALL!:
I own a very affordable and reliable proven low mileage older 96 Ford 15 pass van window van and safety is a high concern, the riders in my vehicle are my responsibility and must wear seat belts of course, so after much research into this subject I found:
Firstly yes all high profile vehicles such as SUV’s roll over easier than cars, in fact a co worker rolled her suv getting the tire caught in a rural road ditch that borders the road but these vans might be worse than most SUV’s so:
These older vans weren’t taken as far as they should have been in design and accessories for roll over safety avoidance, there is too much of a danger, but just like many products these days we have to “finish the work ourselves, spend the extra money ourselves to make it more right” and there are affordable products that can help a good amount together make the vehicle a bit more safer from roll over chance from happening.
Ford for instance, sold hundreds of thousands of these extended vans and said these vans are safe enough.
I would say, what they said in between their words is that these vans could be a bit safer with some affordable additions but we don’t want to admit any more and then have to pay for safety additions for all the hundred of thousands on the road would cost us a fortune.
First yes there are some great must watch videos on best loading methods and tire and pressures and speed decisions so I won’t go into that here.
Yes the rear tires require much higher pressures(80 psi) and if you think they should hold the same as car tires pressures(35psi) is used these tires will not support the van and it’s cargo’s heavy weight and will over heat and fail.
Yes of course if your van doesn’t already have any of these, don’t do it:
don’t lift your van, don’t add 4 wheel drive(often a narrower front axle is installed), don’t add the very top heavy fiberglass high roof pop ups. Because these all could help the van roll over some day during a blow out or emergency maneuver at highway speeds.
Of course if you don’t load the van heavy with all 15 people, each reduction of high center of gravity seated person, this in itself can make the vehicle much less likely to roll.
I want to be able to carry 11 people with my seats arranged into a c shaped lounge seating party van and any chance of rolling over would really Kill any party as they say.
*So I did these affordable things to bring the van into a safer zone:
Looking at the videos we can see a great part of the main causes of rolling is the van leans-sways too much to the side to side encouraging rolling, especially in the rear and the heavy rear causes the rear to whip around.
So these 2 items can be much improved by:
1. Replaced all the original shock absorbers with Monroe’s best for this van AND for the rear shocks I got their shocks that have helper springs that don’t effect the soft ride but do give extra spring assist as soon as heavy loads are in the van rear!
Monroe has never let me down in price or quality and the often original van shocks need replacing anyways, you’ll notice the difference, I’d consider replacing them on any used car I bought.
2. Buy an affordable rear anti sway bar kit for the rear axle if your van probably doesn’t have this from the factory, very affordable on eBay!
I chose these instead of the product this video is promoting because they never talked about these already existing products that are easy to install.
Considering adding an after market tire pressure monitoring system!
Also do free common sense things not mentioned at all in other video discussions:
I used a paint pen and wrote in the fender behind the tire the proper tire pressure for anyone to see while bending down to fill the tire.
Added labels at the top of the windshield to remind me to drive more carefully because of roll over concerns in a van and to check the tire pressures etc
If you ever tow, add labels to remind of the towing speed limit law in your state and a bumper sticker to the tow vehicle to educate frustrated drivers why you are moving slower!
Add a calendar reminder in your smart phone to replace the tires on the date they are over 6 and Definitely over 10 years old no matter how much tread is left!
Another consideration but with pros and cons to weigh..
Measure the width from one tire tread beginning to the opposite side, tire tread beginning.
Do this for both front and rear axles and compare.
If you find your van design is much narrower standing in the rear between tires, some are as much as 8” total:
Then consider buying either new rear tire rims with more of an offset to adjust fix this or also consider buying good quality rear wheel spacers that push the rear tires out to give a wider stand and reduce over steering(rear does not respond to turning as strongly as the front).. A few companies make spacers just for this roll over safety concern but spacers can fail and if they do you can be left with no rim to support the vehicle’s standing.
Discuss this with your tire and wheel stores and you can discuss it in rv forums where they make such tough decisions because expensive rv’s often have driving and sway problems when new because the makers don’t care enough about compensating for all the weight and extensions they’ve added to the vehicle’s chassis.
-
Additionally, if you want to look at what you can easily be done to keep everyone safe if it ever does roll, the roof does not have enough cross members to always hold their position and the walls positions which effects the walls standing in a roll over and the pillars are hallow sheet metal.
For these reasons the walls of the van sometimes caves in more than it should in a severe roll over and the windows break and people can be crushed a bit by the roof or fall out the now open windows.
During a headliner fabric foam change, I went to the salvage yard and removed 6 cross member roof light weight metal channeled beams using a flat blade and hammer to bread the adhesive or use heat.
Sawzall the bolt hole ends off and fit spaced between the existing roof beams, tucking the ends in the pockets above the walls top edge.
This might not be an easy thing depending on your van design.
Drill screw or rivet the ends to the wall top lip.
Caulk to bridge any gaps with the sheet metal roof and the new members.
This also made the roof much much stronger with hardly any flexing to where I can walk on it if needed while loading unloading bikes from the rain gutter roof racks.
I also sprayed yellow foam can into some of the hallow wall members and horizontal members to give them more strength from collapsing inward in a roll over.
I also insulated the van more using used poly fill loose and batts acquired for free from discarded sofas stuffing anywhere I could.
This can also reduce the sun heat on the headliner foam so it lasts longer.
That made a big difference with comfort and quietness and the sound of the doors when closing sound like a cooler lid, quiet and solid sounding.
I also bought anti break inside window clear film on eBay and added. These are amazing for people trying to break a window(watch videos) to the van to grab a purse and should help people stay in a roll over.
Replaced any loose worn steering components for a like new again nimble steering.
Well for us diy’ers these vans can be a great option if taken seriously.
Because really, the new vans are extremely expensive with very questionable expensive reliability they are still perfecting them some and I’m sure they have some of their own problems and headaches.
And they could roll in high wind or especially if their complicated anti roll electronic applying braking system fails.
Might as well make it a fun challenge(like playing a board game) to find the sweet spot with these older vans that are proven and reliable and often have much life left if we just fix the roll over issues with what we can reasonably easily do.
Well I’m not an expert whatsoever but I’ve shared my experience.
Take care and happy vanning!
There is no way the speeds are what he says I'm no expert but at 56 mph that van should blur past the camera
Looks like the tests with Roadmaster he's easier on the steering wheel
Ya know what reduces risk of rollovers?
Don't let dumbfucks drive big vehichles.
I am a paint contractor, I've been driving Ford vans since I was 14 years old (now 20) and I have never once flipped that bitch, even in an emergency situation.
The extended 1 ton is REALLY top heavy, when you put 4000 pounds of ladders on top.
YES!!! Its in Ohio! I should go visit that company sometime..
So... this is not a vehicle for an immature driver with road rage. it's a cruiser but still will get off the line for a van. cruise @ 65mph in the middle lane or stay in the right lane. You will be fine! (1) Check your emergency break, they tend to fail or techs will become lazy and not set it. (2) Stop letting other people work on your van. Learn how work on your own van. They will RIP you off and not put all bolts and parts back properly.
Then the company's should try to make them saver in roll overs
This narration / commercial is so SKEWED, it’s Laughable ! This guy sold his soul ... for a couple of bucks
Uhhh... Was I the only one who noticed that some crashes were on snow? I could flip my Blazer on snow. My neighbor could flip his Subaru in snow if it slid off the road and went in to a ditch as a high enough speed. Jus sayin.
Put rollbars in them
Kormákur Jónsson 9
I wish we could go back to horses
Hahahahahahaha!
U should Never yank the wheel of one of these vans. Period
Hey, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Brilliant.
this is a nice video make anothers