Excessive Overtime Is Killing UPS Workers
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2022
- UPS drivers are revealing the gruesome reality behind your online orders. They say the company is forcing 12+ hour days and constant overtime. The schedules have ruined countless families and marriages. And in the heat, excessive overtime can be a death sentence.
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I’m really happy I got to see this video. I was a UPS driver but I only lasted about a year for this very reason. I made more money than I ever did before. Financially I was set. But working 12 hour days 6 days a week really hit me mentally. Didn’t even care about the money anymore. Ended up quitting and making half of what I was making at UPS but my mental health is way better. People thought I was crazy to leave all that money but in my opinion the money is not worth it if it means my life is gonna be miserable.
Edit: For anyone who thought I was lying
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Love the driver the cry when u got people loading ur entire trucks
These new generations cry and nag about everything! Have you ever worked in construction 6/7 days a week, 12 hours shifts. YOUR LABOR IS NOTHING compared to construction labor. Your new generations just like to cry about everything and want it easy. I'm 26 btw and I'm talking about about new generations below the age of 40. Bunch of nagging.
@@cmamsler other people loading the truck doesn’t change the 12-14 hour days. That’s a whole other argument.
Sometimes, one's sanity is more important than one's salary. 🤔
I love this country cause youre free to walk away from what doesn’t work for you and your family, and leave it to people that are willing or able to do it.
Working overtime should always be a choice made by the employee. Obviously UPS is too greedy to hire the appropriate number of workers per the number of daily deliveries, so instead, UPS works them to death. A quality worker is an asset to a company, and should not be treated as expendable.
Biggest problem is getting more drivers. No one will work.
Cheaper for the company to pay overtime vs hiring a new worker.
@Lind Morn incorrect. The employee is the asset as they bring value to the company. A company with no employees is a failed business.
they get enough employees, there’s a high turnover rate cause they overwork them💀
You sign up for ot, nobody is force to work it.
I remember when covid first started and everyone was panic ordering things online. Every day was like peak season with 250 to 300 stops. I would be out till 10:30 to 11pm and still have like 50 stops left. My supervisor would call us back around that time and told us to scan all of our packages as "emergency condition" and the next day those 50 stops would get added onto the next days route. That turned into a snnowball and our trucks just kept getting heavier
I was the same. I would bring back 60-80 stops every day. Then it would all get recycled the next day. I was working 12-13 hrs monday-thursday and come friday i only had 5-6 hours left to work
What about us Amazon workers who have to work 60 hours a week, from Thanksgiving to Christmas. UPS is nothing compared to the amount of work at Amazon. We get most of the orders. More than UPS ad FedEx combined.
@@Noct343 you’re actually playing the “what you do is nothing compared to what I do” card? You know ups helps Amazon right? A huge portion of our load is from Amazon. Videos like this exist because Amazon is so huge that they offload a lot of their volume to other companies. Which increases the work for all delivery workers.
300 stops everyday is insane! Def not worth the pay
@@Noct343 UPS delivers Amaxon packages, and UPS does FedEx returns
No mention of the guns that get pulled on you because you're showing up at people's houses very late in the evening. Very uneasy feeling for homeowners to spot someone so late at night
So, the big truck isn't a clue?
@@Bendoofus guess not since it's happened to several drivers in our building alone, even with the lights flashing.
It happened to me once.. I was delivering out in the country approx 9:30pm, pulled into a circular driveway lights on, tapping my horns and still almost got shot.
I'm friends with a retired UPS worker and these kinds of abuses have been going on for a long time. He was a warehouse worker for 9 years then decided to go driving a package car just before he married. His workday was to deliver 10 hours worth of work in an 8 hour workday. He was constantly harassed by this supervisor because it took 9-9.5 hours to complete his route. The spill over stress of that sank his marriage within 2 years. It wasn't until his fourth year as a driver that he finally filed a grievance and the supervisor backed off, but the workload was almost always the same. He retired in 2016 with 38 years of service under his belt. And he still considers himself lucky to get out without ruining his back, knees or having a heart attack.
Hoffa is out. The Teamsters I know are preparing for war.
Lol wow he was soooooo hard done by in life!! Wow his boss was mean and he took his stress home and ruined in marriage. 100% his problem and fault don’t blame ups lefty. Take responsibility.
this is similar to what a USPS mail carrier told me, inbetween tears AND while they were delivering at 10 PM!!!!!
So he lost his marriage to keep working at UPS?
@@larryc1616 This is why it's best not to get married while working in high stress environments like these if you are not going to set boundaries.
We need nationwide protests for workers rights. I work in Talent Acquisition and I’m so disgusted by companies that see their employees as a resource and not people.
they refer to us as a "body"
@@Frank_999Scoobydooby I know and it’s gross.
They are blowing this out of proportion
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I was at a gas station yesterday. And a UPS truck pulled up next to me while I was sitting there using my phone. And I noticed he never got out and when I looked over he was literally lean back in his seat and asleep within a few minutes.
😢Thank you for for sharing this and thank you for not recording him or taking pictures of him. He deserved that moment of rest, peacefully 😢
Boo hoo
I was at McDonald's yesterday and one of the workers sat down beside me while I was eating my food. I noticed he leaned back and was literally asleep at the table for a few minutes. Your point is????
Excessive OT is hurting the Transportation field all over. I’m quitting my trucking job this year just because I don’t have the time to workout and eat right. This have a bad affect on my health. Then you got bosses that have never did anything like driving for long hours and delivered stuffs but yet their in a management or supervisor positions. They keep on their not going to have nobody to deliver their stuffs.
Trucking isn't the same, you don't get paid $40 an hour plus overtime wich would be $60 an hour, what the HECK are they whining about.
@@peyuzumaki while they might not travel as far as we do they do make alot of deliveries in heat without A/C and they makes more stops then we do. They be out on the road 10 hr+ like us. I definitely agree with you too on trucking. I’m done with it.
@@copperfit4087 Man theirs the concrete guy that works 15 to 16 hrs a day for 15 an hour in states like Florida without overtime.
@@peyuzumaki so it's ok to abuse your body because company says so? then when you collapse or got hospitalised you loose your job without even noticing?
Then your next reason is to find another job? What kind of dumb republicunt reasons is that?
@@roy1299 Then you sue the heck out of them, who's the morron here, learn the law.
Notice how UPS and the United Rail Workers both say they don't care about getting more money, they just want less grueling hours every week, day in and out. They're asking for more time off so they can spend it with their friends and family, and actually use some of the money they make for themselves.
What's the point of making good money if you barely have any time to just breathe?
Left UPS in 2004 after 22 years. Mangement was really big on SPH (stops per hour). Every day was 12-13.5 hours on road. In order to get an 8-hour day, you would have to put a request in a week earlier. They only give if I remember 3 a day. They would make sure to load you with 10-10.5 hours of work ... for that 8 hour day
All facts. 116° caught up with me and put me in the ER. No matter how much you are trained for the “heat” you are still expected to finish your route in a certain amount of time. If not you can get “talked to”.
File a grievance for extreme weather conditions that are preventing you from doing your jobs accurately and safely. I am pretty sure I saw that in a union handbook. I am not union but I work for UpS and my dad is union. Fight for what’s yours!
Unions are finally getting more power again. The more unionized workers there are, the more power each individual union is. Unionize every workplace.
Kinda disgusting that they even had to lose power...
Yup.
@@Hi_Brien - Thanks, Ronnie "Union Buster" RayGOON!
Unions need to become far more militant going forward because the corporate owned police will not hesitate to murder the very workers and any sympathizers who resist the capitalist owner class.
That's a lie, they are in bed together.
Much respect to the UPS,FedEx, USPS and Amazon drivers for all of your hard work rain or shine you guys are always out their 🙌💪
Maybe quit ordering heavy shit
Maybe you just need to look for another job, like a cashier or receptionist 🤷♂️
I got no respect for Amazon! They suck when it comes to delivery!!!
It’s going to take a lot more than just “praising” them through “hard work”. Stop ordering stuff you can buy at the local store.
@@user-wj8fj2pu9u exactly
Same in medicine. Longer days er...I mean longer nights...16hrs....no staff....err....what days... er....I mean what nite is it again? 350lb rotisseries...Only 8 more hours to go.
Sadly this what is happening in many industries, it's bad and it should definitely get better. At leas you guys get paid overtime, teachers have to do overtime and not get paid and use their own money to buy things for their classrooms. Keep on fighting to improve your field, without fighter, big business will win.
@@colombiantom I agree. Though we have to stand by and watch people die due to hospital management's amoral behaviors, and they go unchecked by impotent state and federal regulators. Guess you folks have to also stand by when nutjobs show up with military grade weapons for blow and tell. Thoughts and prayers just don't do it.
Not just UPS. I hear of so many employees who have to work mandatory overtime. Sure the money is nice but, it wrecks the body or messes up families.
Yup I am a Package Handler at BOTH UPS and FedEx and work 12-14 hours a day roughly now 7 days a week.I work just at FedEx on Saturday and just UPS on Sunday thankfully but FedEx isn't even Part Time anymore.We work over 40-50 hours a week there alone now and on top of that I work my regular part time at UPS over 20 hours a week.This is all regular Peak Season and both are supposed to be Part Time jobs.
@@gpl992 Slow down. You’re going to dig yourself an early grave.
I work for the nysdot as a highway maintenance worker/heavy equipment operator. The mandatory overtime for us is for snow and ice. We don’t go home unless the state allows people to go. The longest I had to stay at work was 6 days. The absolute worst feeling being I hadn’t bathed til I finally got home. I had slept an entire Saturday
Every warehouse environment is like this. The company I work for makes you work an hour, hour and a half late but you get your weekend off. It's part of the people just don't want to work problem.
@@ToMaToEsGrOw People don't want to work for a job that isn't benefiting them. I'm not working 40 hours a week and then still qualifying for foodstamps, I'm not going to be abused by management. It's not "Nobody wants to work." It's "We're tired of being exploited." I'd rather be homeless and watch the entire fucking system crumble. Trucking delays? Good. Emergency responders unable to respond? Good. Infrastructure crumbling? Say it with me. "GOOD." Fuck em.
I’ve been working as a driver’s helper this season and I can tell you, you have to work until the last package is delivered, you can’t even use a toilet most of the time, no brakes no lunch, nothing! After working all day every single muscle sores, it’s definitely true what they’re saying.
You definitely get break and lunch. Your driver abused you
I know. But looks like the driver you are with is not a good person. You should report his/her ass to the manager to get your break.
@@abdallahj.a. management loves when drivers skip their breaks and meal periods. Saves them money and makes their numbers look better
PVD is solid
@Stephanie Slayer you need to take meal period and breaks by law. At least in California. I think the PVD position is a non union job so that might have something to do with it also
Give them goddamn a/c in the trucks.
Are you stupid? How can an ac work when the driver is constantly opening the truck every 2 mins.
@@Text_MorePerfectUnion that handle is so far from the og it's almost funny
Without a union, it'll never happen
WTF are they thinking not having A/C in a delivery truck?
You spend only a short time in the truck. 90 percent is walking from truck to front door delivering packages.
everything in that company was a contradiction . they said check for miss loads , but they wanted us off the clock , work faster but don,t make mistakes , carry more packages at a time , but don,t lift too much wait , walk faster but don,t run , drink more fluids , but don,t take too many rest room brakes . everything one person told me was the opposite of what the next person told me . i worked my ass off but i was never fast enough for them . i know six people that only lasted 2 weeks there . at least i made it 2 months , and now i understand where the term ( going postal ) come from lol . i actually enjoyed the work until i realized they were never going to let up no matter how hard i tried .
You’re not wrong
They will never let up bc they don’t want you to get complacent
Same with Fedex. I worked there for 6 months and it was terrible. After a ten hour shift they wanted you to go and help unload other trucks. Never again.
Make the CEO and each board member and each large stock holder do 2 weeks literally strapped at the hip of the hardest UPS workers and see what happens!
This what ive been saying lol
Is this a threat?
99 percent of leadership at ups started off working the floor kids.
Like they care.
I was a UPS driver for 28 years. It was literally all I could take. I was lucky enough to have enough credits and was the right age to retire. But it took 28 years of hell. I missed so many family gatherings, kids events, games, dinners,...and such. UPS does not care about the work force, just the numbers. When stocks went IPO, it really got worse. Everyone at UPS is very stressed. High divorce rate, and alcoholism. You make great money and have good benefits, but I wouldn't do it again, knowing what I know now. No way. Very hard on the body. The shoulders, wrists, knees, legs, and ankles.
But you enjoyed the check so you stayed... So stfu.
@@sandlotkrew8778 I took the check because I EARNED the check. So YOU stfu.
28 years of your life you won't ever get back
Sandlot Krew - you seem pretty stressed out. WHY? I always took my paychecks because I damn well earned them. I worked as hard as anybody else. You are so stressed out because you work for UPS, you proved my point. I have been retired now for 14 years, it's great. Try to hang in there. If you can make it through, life is much better after UPS.
P.S. I won't STFU, I will make my voice heard in fact.
I worked at UPS for seasonal and it wore me out. I was also in school at the time and juggling between the two was a battle. I was loading the trucks and some items were heavy and the working conditions were sometimes cold. I actually ended real sick with pneumonia. I immediately quit that job and just focus on school. I can say working at UPS was experience I would never forget, but I would never do it again.
People hate on student loans but if you take a reasonable amount and it helps your graduate on time, it's a better idea than working while going to school
@@sp123 My parents helped me out with tuition which I'm fortunate for. My parents advised me to quit as it was hard for me to study and work. Even though it was seasonal it was crazy.
I’m a ups driver for San Marcos California. In San Diego county. In this excessive needs to stop ! I’m ready to go on strike with my union brothers to stop this
I work for UPS, hired on months before seasonal work started, was given $17/hour. Immediately after peak, pay dropped to $15.35/hour. In August 2022, pay was raised to $16.65/hour. No cost of living adjustedment after 90 days as some people told me. Supervisor lied to me and told me $17 wasn't seasonal pay for me but my paycheck says otherwise. I've been there 17 months and done 2 peak seasons now, I've gotten no yearly raise. Anytime you try to get answers to questions, you are redirected or given an "idk". Been counted late for clocking in on time, was told computer registers start time as late. =_= This job is a joke and I'm an idiot for working hard for them.
people aren't "trained" to deal with high temps (I'm guessing only in the military?) they just had to make sure to custom buy their trucks with no AC. I can't do much on my end, but I don't do much online orders anymore.
Not even! I'm an 8-year vet. Even military members are only trained to recognize and alleviate certain symptoms. You can drink water or gatorade, eat a snack, loosen clothing, seek shade... But ultimately, the only way to fully recover from a heat injury is to get out of the heat!
Don’t forget USPS please! My wife just worked 15 hours for 5 days straight and she has to go back tomorrow and do it all again.
Quit, i have no sympathy for over paid government workers
They get paid just enough to live at USPS. About as much as a starting teacher.
They are not overpaid at all. I got selected for an interview and the pay was laughable. Even govt jobs exploit their workers.
I’ve been at UPS for 29 years now. Preload, 21 years of package and now 5.5 years in feeder. Maybe my career has been the exception but I’ve loved most of it. Never had these supposed 60-70 weeks forced on me. Rarely missed any of my kids activities. Even coached my kids teams at times. And as far as the heat when I was in package, I was prepared for the hot days. All while making a damn good living and an even better health package and pension.
I will say, I’ve seen a lot of buildings with very weak union representation. Stewards and BAs that just shrug stuff off and let their brothers and sisters get abused. THAT’s a huge problem. Those locals need to be stronger and stand up for their people. Weed out the problems.
Everyone stand up and fight for better in 2023. Don’t believe the BS that corporate/management is putting out there either to try and make us look like the bad guys. We are the heart and soul of this company and should be compensated as such. Carol gets richer and we get crapped on.
@@Jj-gi2uv it wasnt Regan who passed all that b.s. it was a Democrat contrlled Congress etc.
O' Brian want to bring the company to it knees just so he can reap all the rewards. I don't think he gives a shit about our company and our jobs.
I think Carol Tome' is doing a great job navigating the company in an difficult and extremely competitive environment. Her compensation is worth approximately the same Abney's was.
Same I love sleepers an feeders. I love peak. Easiest money ever
I hate to see this. I used to work nearly 60 hour weeks when I was younger just so I could have “more.” I’ve chosen to live smaller and be happy with less so I don’t have to anymore. A 40 hour week can even be too much now depending what it is and I refuse to work more. It’s not about the money for me anymore. I was working a 4 day workweek earlier this year and it was a nice balance of work and free time. I was more creative in my freetime and better rested for work and performed well. I think employers are losing money on poorly rested employees and not looking at the situation correctly.
I worked at UPS for a week when I was 18 and decided to go to college. It was a tough week 😂.
Bruh, you could have used UPS to pay for school.
Lol. The comments. Not everyone is looking for a fcking handout on exchange for manual labor.
@user-td8wx9ji9x nice. Someone who doesn't know what they're talking about says a benefit from the company is a "handout". Is health insurance also a handout? My gosh.
@@WhateverDude38 Yes health insurance is a handout dumb kid. Tons of people in 3rd world countries dont have that chance. And guess what? Tax payers money pay for it. My gosh. This person doesn't know shit do they?
@user-td8wx9ji9x come back when you know what you're talking about. We work for our benefits you fool.
"I pour my heart and soul into this company, and I love what I do. But we're seeing more and more that they're just looking at us as numbers" - Christina Phoenix, UPS Driver
Worked at ups up until recently. I'm so happy our voices are getting heard. My 2 years were not the best with the harsh conditions and i was scared people were not aware of the problems.
I was hired as a pvd in November 2023. I worked 3+ weeks without seeing any check. We were told that we had to deliver 10+ packages and hour or we would be fired. I was delivering and average of 14 and hour. I had a very bad fall on the 14th after delivering around 70 packages in about 4 hours ( 60+ stops). I was bleeding on my hand and knee but still pushed through it to finish the shift. the next day ( December 15th ) I contacted the manager at 5 a.m. to call off because I was unable to stand. She told me "DO NOT go to the E.R. and to go to their doctor instead. She had me wait until 930 a.m to speak with the boss who told me "i cost him 15,000, by not reporting this on the 14th" ( the day before). I could not believe that. So I went to their doctor who examined me, and gave me a pain shot. But I'm now waiting until my appointment on Tuesday to make sure my foot isnt broken.
My friend worked for UPS 25 years ago. He worked at a warehouse. He said it was the most chaotic shit he had ever seen... People screaming and cursing at each other the entire shift doing non stop work. He made it sound funny as hell but in all reality there's nothing humorous about it.
I think it was the only job where I heard a supervisor cursing left and right out of aggravation.
Nobody forced him to work there right?
@@sergiohernandez-fz2xxyou wonder why people snap and then gun down their co workers. Not everybody has strong mental fortitude to take insults and abuse daily. Even the strongest people have limits
@@sergiohernandez-fz2xx Nope. That's why he quit after 6 months.
Very true
Kroger warehouse is also like this too I left that job, these companies lack common since. I worked at a cemetery and when it was hot they would let us leave early so we wouldn't get sick. This is so sad, people are just trying to take care of their families.
We recently had to have a driver banned from our apartment complex. He refused to deliver to our doors - instead, dumping all of our packages outside of an office door. Picture elderly, disabled people with canes, climbing through shrubbery and over rocks to get the packages that had blown into a neighboring field. When he was approached by a 60 year old disabled woman - he threatened and yelled at her, complaining about how hard his job is. While his behavior was inexcusable, we can now see why he would act that way.
UPS drivers don't have time to hand deliver every single package to every single door of an apartment complex. They have hundreds of stops per day to do.
@@andrewsmith8715 They may have changed their policies but, I've been living here for years; here, and elsewhere, the packages have always been delivered directly to our apartment doors.
@@andrewsmith8715 you’re wrong. His/her job is to deliver it to the customers door unless the complex has an agreement to leave at office. Usually any agreement like that is based on an attempt being made to the apartment door first.
An apartment complex is considered just 1 stop out of 100-200 stops in a route, If there’s no elevator like the routes I did in sf, it’s all being left at the bottom lobby. Not walking up 7 flights of stairs just to find out that no one is home and I can’t leave the package at the front door.
Apartments should be required to have lockers (with big parcel collection) and/or the office should take packages. You don't know how long it takes to deliver to an apartment complex when there is 30+ pieces!
People really don’t know just how hard it is unless they have done it themselves. I respect all the drivers it was too stressful for me I work in the warehouse instead. It’s less money but I prefer to keep my metal health.
Facts no one truly knows unless they have done it or been around it. That driver job is NOT A JOKE. Its really nuts.
What position in the warehouse is the least stressful? Also what position do you work in the Warehouse?
I worked as a driver for a company a while back 12 hours a day when people fell asleep on the behind the wheel they just fired you and replaced you with the next man now I am working less at a different job but happy and have all the time in the world to spend with my daughter to me the money is worthless if you are not happy in your life.
I got anyone will read this but I have a friend that works at UPS. He told me that when covid was at its worst people died at work and they didn't tell anyone cuz they were in the back room moving boxes or something like that. No one noticed till hours later.
No one was dieing at work that is a lie
I believe it, I worked in tech in a clean expensive environment. Technicians died on the line way in the back of the building. No one knew for hours. It happens at big companies who over work
@@derrickfarbes1805 So you were there? If so, which facility?
@@Brainjoy01 Thank you for your story.
@@roycecharlton4924 lol buddy during thr time you claimed anyone eith sickness wasn't allowed at work so you claiming he died from covid in the back is a lie because no one with coughs , aches or high Temps were allowed on site so clowned yourself there. You weren't there buddy so don't claim things you know nothing about.
A former driver here- last night i saw 2 UPS drivers delivering after 8pm in Portland,Me area- terrible situation,paid slavery
My oldest son has been at Ups for about 21or22 yrs doing warehouse in FL. I always ask him why he don't drive the trucks and his answer had always been NO! Mama you just don't know that's the toughest part of that job but he was interested until he found out how hot is in the summer time and the pressure that they put on you when you're on the trucks with the overloads. So sad!
He's wrong. I drive and it's not this bad
@@josephbailey4481 well I guess some do and some don't. I hope it stays that way for you and you continue to stay positive as you are with many Blessings son.🙏🏽✌🏽
@joseph Bailey.. well, aren’t you special. You must have a cake route.
@@terryporter7617 😄😄😄👍🏽
The thing that pisses me off is that ups sets these ridiculously hard standards and rules to follow, yet the encourage you to push it so hard and the time the give you it makes it IMPOSSIBLE to do safely. Whenever someone gets injured, even if they’re following all the proper procedures UPS takes ZERO accountability and will always fight to make it the fault of the employee. I work here. Management sucks. The union is IMPERATIVE.
Facts!!!! I got like 4 write up.. Because i cant keep my mouth closed..
My husband has started taking videos/pictures of things that go wrong in the warehouse he works in because you are exactly right. They will blame the workers before they will take accountability for unsafe practices. He feels he has to have video evidence in case something bad happens to him while working there because they will point the finger at him even if it is their fault.
@Stephanie Slayer & almost smack the shit out a security guard who was overstepping & clearly overtaking by his authority.. I really don't like that place. One of the worst jobs i ever had.
I was harassed by managment, and the union until I quit. They refused to abide by the contract, and worked with managment to get rid of me.
Wrong. Union does not work with management
Can we get AC in those UPS trucks too? That'd help a LOT for these folks.
Yes. I'd do that job for 40 hours, if I had air conditioning. But it gets up to 98-103°f 3 months out of the year here. I know I get heatsick in it.
@@grmpEqweer right? We could solve these problems if UPS would hire enough people to do the job. But that's not what companies wanna do - they'd rather have Capital go on Strike. Its time workers responded in kind.
Ups has enough employees trust me
@@josephbailey4481 uh... So we can let them die? This sounds like ya need to see a therapist.
@Anarchist Tech Support you said ups could solve this by hiring more. I responded by we have an abundance of employees . Añ this video was exaggerated
You can sure bet if the UPS employees didn't have a union that overtime would either be straight pay, not double or triple time pay or no pay at all. The richest 1 and 2 percent of this country won't be happy until you are their save working for free.
My friend who retired as a package car driver with UPS always said if management could find a way to get kids from India to deliver for pennies an hour they'd do it.
19 years old, I was working for UPS. Every day in a hot-ass trailer. I used to ask the supervisor for water and he used to tell me no. This was during the summer. I got off work went home and said to myself, all my friends are in college, having fun, going to parties, and away from home. Why am I stuck at home and working a job at UPS in hot trailers every day? The next day I went to work I gave them my badge and told them I'm out. The way they treated people was inhumane. I couldn't tolerate the disrespect any longer.
Sign up ALL those non-members in the Right to Work states. Get more power behind you! We're slowly taking our power back in this country. It's not the millionaire CEO's and top brass that make these companies what they are today, it's the front line workers.
I used to work for UPS a little over a year ago. I like the job, but the pay and conditions where just horrible for the amount of work they threw at us
The company does that because customers don’t care…pple complain when their packets don’t arrive on time, etc…everyone is apart of the problem but only wants to point the finger at the big companies
I had know idea that this was going on. I am a retired union firefighter. I retired in 2019 and since I retired the city has implemented mandatory overtime. If you are at the end of a 24 hour shifting there is a shortage if your name is at the front of the rotation you are required to work another shift. I am glad that they didn't do that when I was working. I have an autistic nonverbal son that is very high needs. Making my wife deal with him alone for 48 hours would have been really rough. I hope that you guys can fix this problem through collective bargaining and if necessary a strike. Is this a nation wide problem with UPS?
Yup it is!! All ups are the same!!
This is crazy this kind of working conditions should not be legal in any country especially here.
That goes to show you that the U.S. that's us is no better than any other country in the last few years.
UPS...."UNDER PRESSURE & STRESS"!
A driver told me this long ago, he was 10 years in, his knees had worn-out already. He was working on a plan to get out. Awful the workload they are given. I do Amazon Flex, so I understand one day in their shoes.
I replaced a man who was worked to death from overheating. He got too hot and had a heart attack. A coworker drove him home where he died because he couldn’t afford the hospital. I’ve been doing 12 hour days 6 days a week for the past few months.
I say something in solidarity every time i see our usual driver on the route by my house.
The heat. The overtime.
Every Day.
Told him I will donate what I can to any UPS workers strike fund in 2023.
Don't forget pre loaders working in the warehouse. They are underpaid, overworked. You get only 20 minutes break for 8 hours hard work shift, that's insane. Also they are under staffed because nobody wants to do this job.
You are only working 4 hour shifts. Full time takes years to earn
@@josephbailey4481 thank you I already quit from UPS
Drove for one year and barely saw anyone or did anything outside of UPS besides rest.
Moved to FedEx express, got a pay cut, and got a life. No regrets
FedEx blows
Pick ur poison 😂
Pick ur poison 😂
84 hours a week is a standard week for me. I work construction and we have two shifts you either work noon to midnight or midnight to noon. At least these people get to go home at night, more often then not we are working hundreds or thousands of miles away from home and living in hotel rooms. I certainly don’t complain when I get paid. Your not going to make any money if you start getting days off, be careful what you are asking for. We won’t be able to work forever, there is plenty of time off when we retire. Do yourself a favor and make the money while you still can. Trust me your better off at work then at home fighting with the wife and kids!
The only solution to this is to hire more and I mean more drivers to handle the work load. It's really Peak season when it gets unbearable. Some people aren't just cut out to do this kind of work. Those who do are being overworked
We have so many drivers layoffs get bigger and bigger. This video is way over exaggerated
This is why I refuse to work overtime. Working overtime plays right into the hands the people exploiting me. It's not even worth it.
Well said… plus anything over 12 hrs of overtime on your check, the government gets almost 50% percent of it… Not worth it.
I drove for 17 years. During the summer after finishing for the day in 100 degree weather, the management would have cold water and Gatorade. WTF at the end of the day.
I work preload right now. I can’t wait until I’m forced to do overtime at $51+ an hour!
@Stephanie Slayer do I like what? Preload? Definitely not if that’s what you’re asking. BUT if you can make it past this stage UPS is an awesome career.
@Stephanie Slayer sweet heart, at $51 an hour the won’t have to force me to do anything. I’ll do it with a smile on my face!
@Dust Pan I’m not driving yet. Still waiting my turn! 😁
Time to strike! Can't get around it.
or just get another job.
@@Ryan-zq3er No logic in that comment.
If the conditions are so bad, find a new job. Drivers make upwards of $130,000 a year. They should have some money saved up to start the career they want. That way people can actually move up. Instead of 30 people hoping a driver decides to retire
I was a supervisor at the 3rd largest ups in the country and I recently quit in july and let me tell you it fucking SUCKS in there they don’t have heat so you’re freezing your ass off in the winter and they don’t have ac so you’re getting microwaved in the summer, The workload is insane people are constantly quitting so you’re expected to do three times the work, you only get one ten minute break and its just all around garbage. Oh and supervisor’s can’t even get in the union so we got shitted on constantly by our superiors and we really couldn’t do anything about it because they could just fire us
Welcome to the wonderful work life in the wealthiest nation in the world. This is like us at Waste Management. We easily work 12 to 14 hours a day in the state of Florida. As being a helper, we're outside more than 90% of the time putting the cans into the Garbage Trucks. While the other person is driving. Either by hand or machine while being in the heat and humidity. I hope you're only benefitting the CEO'S, owners, ect. Your life is another number no matter what values you have. Only will they demand you to stay if they realize they're short handed but do not take credit for why they're failing to make work a better environment.
God bless you all🙏🏼
I’m a 35 year UPSer, 30 as a driver. I have worked from 8:15 until 10:45 at night before with little break, maybe 10 minutes total. It has gotten better though. Now we have something called the 9.5 list. What that is is management has to work you under 9.5 hours three days a week and the other two they could do what they want. They do harass you if you’re on it. They will spy on you. They will ask why you had to stop and sort out 100 stops of residential. I am guaranteed 9-11 everyday. At this point in my career I don’t really need the overtime.
Yea, worked 5 years for UPS in San Diego. The job wasn't too bad until 2020, when everybody else was forced to stay home. Our volume increased by 300%. Went from jus over 300 packages per truck, to 900. One problem was even with that increase, hub workers, or preloaders, were still only given about 4-5 hours to do the work. Meaning you had to triple the amount loaded per minute, just to finish up so the trucks could leave on time. I saw injuries left and right because of how overworked everyone was. Including myself completely tearing my rotator cuff, pulling an 95lb package from a bottom belt. A package that literally said "TEAM LIFT" on it, but you have no choice, other than to do it yourself. If you try to wait to get help, you're bitched at for stopping the belt. After my injury I wasn't even sent to see a physician. I was literally sent home and told to take a couple days off. I was in so much pain I ended up going to urgent care, where they determined I had a torn rotator cuff, and recommended that my work take care of it. Still in a lot of pain and discomfort 3 days later, my preload supervisor, and boss were calling me, telling me they needed me back at work. Went to work with the urgent care physicians recommendation that I don't lift anything over 5lbs. I got put on a sort belt, with packages at 40+ lbs, and was expected to only use one arm. I then went to my boss and told him that I needed to see a doctor. He said he'd take care of it, and never did. Instead I got sent home again, and was told to return when my shoulder was better. All they cared about was having a body to load packages, and could give a crap about my health or well being. Literally 3 weeks later, I received something telling me I was let go for no showing, when my boss was the one that told me to take the time off. As far as the union goes... absolute joke. They have ZERO problems taking their union dues out of your check every single month, but try getting them to do anything for you, or to fight for your rights as a worker. I contacted my union rep, and never heard back from them. When he showed up at our hub, I drove down there, and when I brought it up to him, he said he was there for something else, and would need me to call him later. I did a couple times, and never got an answer, or a call back. I was falsely terminated, with a work related injury, that was never taken care of by UPS, and the union could care less. So in the end I was left with no job, no medical help for my shoulder, and no representation from the union. There's also a lot of false promise in the company, and the whole "seniority" thing, is a lie as well. There was a lot of favoritism in that building. Both for loaders and drivers. Especially if you happened to be female. Everybody in that building is required to be able to load at the least, 3 trucks. Yet, a lot of girls were only loading 2 trucks, and they would always be the lightest routes. Here I was told that everybody was equal in our building, and had to do the same amount of work... If you value your physical health, mental well being, like to make more than $240 a week, then I'd stay away from UPS. Try Amazon instead, which is where a lot of people that quit UPS, ended up going. Or try Costco! Starting pay is $3-$4 more, you're not overworked, actually get to sleep at night, and you're actually valued for the work you do. None of which you'll ever get working for UPS. If you do end up working for UPS, do the bare minimum, because if they see you're a hard worker, they'll add more work for you to do.
Man so spot on... i have 5 yrs in and im a 22.4 driver, no RIGHTS and HAVE to wrk up to 14hrs a day . I cnt req an 8 hr. 22.4 drivers are the bottom of the barrel. Starting pay for 22.4 is about $20/hr
The company is creating these issues so they have excuses to layoff people. You can see these tech firms do this now.
I’m confused. What does excessive overtime have to do with laying off people?
UPS isn't going to lay anyone off. They can't get enough people to work, at least at my hub.
@Mandy Gee problem is. UPS has a contract to abide by. The tech firms she mentions probably don’t have one. UPS agreed to these terms, and so did we. Even when America was in a recession UPS didn’t layoff as much. It just was a lot less work.
Honestly the best thing we can do is buy less online and buy locally, try and send fewer packages if you can.
Yes please stop ordering crap you dont need
@Dust Pan its just gonna get worse
This is the whole driving industry as a whole , especially in town driving jobs . All companies push the six days a week and 14 hours a day and one 16 hour day really sticking to the 36 hr reset . I got out of trucking cause of this three years 70 hrs every week one day off I was burnt out
It’s supply and demand, there are excessive orders there isn’t even enough work hours to meet what they have to do. Not even enough room to store the trucks of packages in the morning.
I can confirm that this is true I've been working for Ups 2 years now and this is a scary feeling for our brown drivers, I hope this helps our people and hard workers at UPS.
Ups worker here and they over exaggerated it
This goes for all the warehouse workers too!
Great video. I am with you, UPS drivers. You do not owe loyalty to someone that abuses you. If you have other options, feel free to exercise them. Infinite blessings.
UPS workers you guys do an outstanding job!!! to hear and see this happening is awful........two young souls gone to me this is corporate's fault
UPS trucks cant have air-conditioning?.....Do they allow their drivers heat in the winter?
By some off chance any of you UPS folks read, or get time to read this, you are the best at what you do. Always had great service and confidence with you people. I drive professionally (18 wheel tanker) and put in some serious overtime as well and every route truck and feeder truck I see, you all demonstrate high standards and you're total pros.
Do not let your company ruin you. They don't know the value you bring. There's a difference between value and what you 'cost' a company in wages, etc.
My own Dad was WW2 vet a Teamster driver for Roadway express from 1959 to 1995 and he retired with a good pension and boy he earned every nickel. The only time I remember him having issues was contract negotiations and looming strikes. It's worth the fight as he took good care of his family.
Thank you for your words. They are appreciated
HOW HARD IS IT TO PUT ACS IN THE TRUCK!! Shameful
We need to recognize on a national level, the damage that publicly traded companies are doing to our lives. The need to make more money every 13 weeks to appease stockholder is NOT sustainable.
It's sad but we are nothing more than a number. It starts after birth already.
As a Las Vegas UPS Employee I can confirm.
How are you doing today?😔. I'm at ups but a diff city bro.
Solidarity, brothers and sisters!
Local 952.
People are being freaking lazy and order everything online instead of getting up off their ass and going into a store and buy shit.
Unionize Organize!!
People shop too much online in America. They also spend too much on junk and people have to deliver that stuff. I worked at a UPS facility and it was loads of packages non stop to no end.
Kudos for standing up to them
I worked for a place called graphic packaging inc. they laid off people and did the same thing to us.. 72 hour s sometimes 84 hours FORCED. Union shop susposely… these companies are horrible and I hope they suffer in the long run…
It's good to expose this stuff, but what I can't stand is how narrow-sighted it is. UPS isn't the only offender here; this is like knowing there's several different fires in your house, each can be extinguished if you coordinate and take the time to do so, but instead you put one fire out with a deluge while ignoring all the other fires, and your house burns down anyway.
@Lind Morn "you're," is what you meant to type, I'm sure. And "lul," please use some critical thinking and actually read what I wrote; I'm on your side. Going after UPS is great and all, but ignoring Amazon, FedEx, DHL, and a crap ton of other smaller operations that follow the same "work 'em til they drop, then replace them" mentality, is "NARROW SIGHTED." UPS isn't the only offender here. If we're going to go after one of them, we need to go after ALL of them.
Fed Ex drivers are doing the same. Working 7 days a week, they start at 6 am and get done at 7 pm
@@Ryan-zq3er USPS is the same in many areas
@@Bluebloods7 To be fair, this channel FREQUENTLY goes after Amazon, and many others.
@@DannyD-lr5yg DRIVERS. Oh vei. I'm not new here 🤣
This has always been UPS's way of operation, I was hired in early 1988 and after both of my children graduated, I quit as soon as I had a chance. 18yrs with Brown, with plenty of bitter sweet memories. Excessive Overtime was continuous, I filed grievance on three of the routes I drove. It helps to a point, I still had the stop count battle daily, I would bring back in 20-45 stops un-attempted after giving them plenty of notice to help me. This still did not give me an 8 hour day. Every drive needs to file for grievance and bring stops back, but employees fear the mark on them after filing against the company. Now that social media can expose the cruel work environment, maybe change will happen. Wishing the best future for all you UPS employees ...
They need to get real with hiring process.
Guy calls from India telling me I missed first day of work. How's that I was told you will call me at 8am and I waited all day for call that never came now you are telling me I missed first day? Thank you come again
I got a call from Tennessee 🙄 telling me to go to wrong location for new hire ppwk
Funny this pops up cuz today at ups I told my supervisor I got an appointment coming up in two days for tha dentist and she looks at me with a straight face and says..... 🤷♂️ Well can't u jus reschedule???? Mfkr when?!?! I'm here all day. Definitely profit over ppl
Lies . Family first. Never had an issue due to appointments or emergencies
I dealt with the same issues while I was at FedEx Ground, and Express. Also worked for UPS, and a couple of other local delivery services. They're all the same, except the pay is different.
How did I change all these problems and make them go away? I left. What I've learned if you're that unhappy with your job, go out and find another one. It really is as simple as that.
Extremely messed up . The one that hit me hard was the robbery ups shooting 😞 in Miami . That poor kid man
easy solution...
QUIT.
Sleep is sacred for me
Same exact situation at Amazon. I quit after 4 days.
With the percentage of workforce retiring greatly increasing over the last couple of years, excessive overtime is going to become more and more prevalent as industries are forced to deal with a shrinking workforce.
Does UPS force the office workers to work overtime too?
Eff no if it's like FedEx. Those desk jockeys worked from home while we were trying not to catch our death working 12 hr. days
@@darrylgoodwin7947 no. It’s not like fedex
That's why when i get shipment options i don't fucking pick 1 day shipping or overnight shipping... whether it be ups, amazon, fedex... i want my package but i also don't want someone on the other side to suffer just because i wanted my shit by yesterday 💀
it always goes back to the old saying
“work smarter, not harder”
ups isnt a bad place to work trust me. just dont kill yourself tryna handle funky ass packages😂and become part of a union!!!
Amen. You preach